Tupac Talks About The "Illuminati"

[yahwehprofet]

Off with our heads!! Rip trayvon and m brown.

Both were sold to cause confusion.. RACE RIOTS smh

.....meanwhile in Washington""...

These BLACK NIGGERS took da bait. Make sure the family gets paid....

Lol slowly. But surely. NWO IS COMING

 

[5 Grand]

those pastors aren't tryna reach hood niggas though; malcom x and MLK wasn't any different then pastors we have today...just go to ah black church if you wanna hear ah 2014 MLK speech...

if ah real street person go to ah pastor, the pastor will brush him off...thats why i don't pay tithes to pastors, i give my tithes to folks in the streets...

2pac talked directly to "niggas" and "bitches" though...he spoke the language of the hoods...the people you quoted tryna communicate with middle class black people

Nonsense. Go to YouTube and download any Malcolm X speech. He had a way of reaching the poor and uneducated. the Nation of Islam reaches the people you speak of. Malcolm X served 77 months in prison for burglary so to suggest that he couldn't connect with "hood niggas" is absurd.

Get off Pac dick. The man was only 25 when he died. Any nigga that's that young talking about uplifting the black community may not be as polished as a Malcolm, but he's still spitting that real shit. Again, Pac was a baby

Martin Luther King was 26 years old when he lead the Montgomery Bus Boycott so you can't use age as a crutch. In fact, Martin Luther King was a Reverend and had a Ph.D at 26 years old.

We can debate this for another 10 pages but anybody that takes Pac's side is going to look foolish when it's all over.

And another thing, KRS One, Chuck D and a handful of other rappers put together the Stop The Violence Movement and recorded the classic song Self Destruction. Tupac basically undid what they accomplished. Chuck D was saying "Fight The Power" and KRS was saying " Stop The Violence" and " You Must Learn" when PAC was a background dancer for Humpty Hump. It's not like Tupac brought anything new to the table, he just caused confusion and now a whole generation of rappers want to be thugs and gangstas. He set the black community back 50 years.

Pac's generation and Malcom's generation were different. Pac spoke the language of his generation. Pac's generation was a result of what happened after we lost Malcom, Martin and the Panthers. We're still a lost people in this country, so we had no direction without our leaders and those soldiers of the movement eventually redirected their guns in the wrong direction; other black people and now we have a huge gang culture because of it.

@ the bolded. That's my point. In the 90s Minister Farrakhan lead a million Black men in Washington D.C. Jesse Jackson was lobbying in Washington to make corporations hire minorities (actually he was doing that in the 70s and 80s). Al Sharpton was doing his thing in New York City organizing protests against police brutality, racial profiling and other things that affect the Black community. Saying, "We're still a lost people in this country, so we had no direction without our leaders..." simply isn't true. You're lying on the IC because you don't want to admit you're wrong. In the 90s the Black community had political leaders. The Congressional Black Caucus, The Rainbow Coalition, The Nation of Islam was in full effect.

What in the world are you talking about?

Tupac got a lot of media publicity because he was an entertainer but he didn't know what to do with said publicity. He didn't have a clear agenda. He didn't know how to give a speech. And to make matters worse he aired out his differences in public instead of behind closed doors which makes him and the people he was beefing with look unorganized and lacking order.

Tupac claimed to be a general but you have to start at the bottom and work your way up the ranks. His life (and death) is the physical manifestation of why you can't skip from private to general. You have to work your way up private>corporal>sergeant>lieutenant>captain>major>general. Tupac tried to skip from private to general and couldn't get anything accomplished because he wasn't qualified for the position.

Great MC though. He has a lot of songs I like.

 

[5 Grand]

Your thread is written with a slant towards Pac, it doesn't seem partial.

Pac didn't go to jail for rape, there was no evidence whatsoever that she was rapped, in fact she sucked him off in the middle of the dance floor soon after introducing herself to him as a groupie that was friends with Haitian Jack; the same guy who set him up to be robbed. Why would he have to rape a woman who was willing to give her body to him? The jury didn't convict him of rape, he was sentenced for sexual assault, basically for touching her on the butt without permission. The judge stated that have gave him the maximum sentence in order to teach Pac a lesson, since he was always in so much trouble.

You're using Pac's perceive character to detract from him but a lot of the black leaders that you posted in this thread weren't morally superior to Pac, King was a Reverend who constantly cheated on his wife, he beat up prostitutes and was sadistic, dated white women, and plagiarized his most famous speech. Don't let me get started on Jeese Jackson and Farrakhan. The only difference with Pac is that he was upfront about his imperfections and contradictions. His skeletons weren't in the closet. The fact that you're holding an uneducated 20 something from a broken home to the same criteria of college educated middle aged men who had more time for growth, then that shows that you unconsciously think he's great.

I'm not knocking Pac for being morally inferior. My problem is that people are always comparing him to Malcolm and Martin. Here's a thread that somebody made a few days ago and somebody made the comparison.
http://community.allhiphop.com/disc...-shakur-june-16th-1971-september-13th-1996/p1

I read The Autobiography of Malcolm X when I was 16. I also read Soul on Ice by Eldridge Cleaver around the same time. Those books were written during the civil rights movement and explore the depths of what and how Black people were thinking in that era. Listening to Tupac speak makes me think he didn't read either of those books. In fact, he comes off as a person who doesn't read at all. He's more like one of those guys on the corner who hangs out and drinks 40s and smokes weed while sharing his philosophy on life. Like a Rastafarian, those guys sit around and talk about life all day but don't get anything accomplished because they aren't educated and don't know the proper channels to get things accomplished on a macro level.

You say, "King was a Reverend who constantly cheated on his wife, he beat up prostitutes and was sadistic, dated white women, and plagiarized his most famous speech. Don't let me get started on Jeese Jackson and Farrakhan. "

Now your slandering the Reverend. You don't know what you're talking about. Regardless of their moral imperfections, at the end of the day they accomplished goals. Martin Luther King lead demonstrations in the South to end segregation. Jesse Jackson spearheaded the Affirmative Action movement so Blacks could get better paying jobs. Minister Farrakhan has travelled all over the world to just about every nation on Earth and built relationships between Black Americans and every nation you can think of. When Minister Farrakhan travels to another country he gets the same treatment as a president.

You say, "Don't let me get started on Jeese Jackson and Farrakhan" By all means, get started. Let's hear what you got. These are the most prolific leaders the Black community has produced, they are products of The Civil Rights movement. I want to hear why you think Tupac is/was a better role model than Minister Farrakhan of Jesse Jackson.

And just to clarify my position, I like Tupac as a rapper but when I hear people compare him to Malcolm and Martin it makes me nauseous.

 

[5 Grand]

I'm still waiting on @freethewave and @Only Built 4 Cuban Linx to post something so I can shut their asses up.

 

[BigBallsNoWorries]

Nigga was 25 when he died

No one said he was in the same level as the GOATs, Malcolm and MLK

But compared to his peers, he was far ahead of his time

The way he could articulate his thoughts about racism, inequality, politics and the struggle/pain of his ppl all while using his music as a platform is remarkable

And there hasn't been another one like Pac that was on a global level like that

Thats what makes him a Icon, Legend whatever u want to call him

But u cant say that in his short time on the earth that he didnt make an impact

 

[yahwehprofet]

Nigga was 25 when he died

No one said he was in the same level as the GOATs, Malcolm and MLK

But compared to his peers, he was far ahead of his time

The way he could articulate his thoughts about racism, inequality, politics and the struggle/pain of his ppl all while using his music as a platform is remarkable

And there hasn't been another one like Pac that was on a global level like that

Thats what makes him a Icon, Legend whatever u want to call him

But u cant say that in his short time on the earth that he didnt make an impact

Yeah at 25 I was saved. But. Icon status ? Yea right.

So. For his age puts us to shame

 

[_Lefty]

I'm not a big Pac music fan at all but you gotta cut the shit. Pac was a better revolutionary than he was a rapper. Niggas can't be serious. That old bitter shit dead. If you look at it objectively, he had the perfect medium, and he had everyone's ears. I'm not sayin this guy would've reinvented the wheel because we don't know what would've stood in his way besides those bullets had he survived, but he definitely would have made somethin shake. That's more than 100% of the cooporate branded rappers we see now. Tupac was a star rapper, actor and all of the above, but he was a real nigga at heart, and that's why everybody loved him. Stop bein a hater bruh. Of course he's not a martin or malcolm. The circumstances didn't place him in those shoes, he was about to embark on shit before he died, he just never got a chance. It was all in his music(white mans world, brendas got a baby, keep your head up, pain ect....). If you can't see that, either you're bitter, or you're slow. Either way, I wish you the best OG.

I got this link from @Gorillawithattitude. He posted it to support whatever point he was trying to make in another thread. It made me laugh so hard I figured I'd make a thread about it.

First he claims to be "the future of the Black community" then @ 3:50 he says he's gonna sign Melle Mel and Scorpio ( From Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5) to his record label. he goes on the say that he's going to unite all the gangs.


I know there's a lot of Tupac dickriders on this site that think everything he said is gospel. But seriously, if you listen to what he's saying, he's just dreaming out loud. PAC was a phenomenal MC and was good at writing rhymes/poetry but public speaking is a completely different skillset.

Keep in mind, on October 16, 1995 Minister Louis Farrakhan spoke in front of a million Black men in front of the Capital in Washington D.C. In the meanwhile Tupac was in jail for fucking a girl in the ass and gang raping her. A jury found him guilty.

Tupac has a lot of fans on the IC and all over America but it's time to call a spade a spade. People are comparing him to Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. Anybody that makes such a comparison has obviously never heard a Martin Luther King speech, or a Malcolm X speech. You must have heard president Obama speak. That's how you deliver a speech. You don't curse, use slang or the n-word. It's unprofessional and makes you look immature. How would Martin Luther King look calling people "niggas" and "bitches". PAC was nowhere near the level of Martin Luther King or Malcolm X.

I'm not saying that Tupac wasn't passionate or that he didn't mean well. He's one of my favorite MCs but that's where it ends. He didn't have the knowledge, vocabulary or insight to sit at the table with politicians and world leaders like Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan or President Obama.

Gimmie a sec and I'll post some real speeches.

Bruh.... Malcolm was in jail before his switched his style up. It's common knowledge MLK was promiscuous. Jesse Jackson nigga don't make me laugh, we all men, and men have faults, that's why I don't follow no man off the ledge because I don't know what he ate for dinner last night before he shake my hand. You callin niggas pac dickriders, than you go out and post 100 different speeches to say Pac wasn't better than such and such. I love and respect all our leaders because they all brought something to the table that maybe the others couldn't. You could've easily named this thread "Black Excellence" and posted all those speeches and included pac and every nigga in here would've goated you because you had somethin for everybody. But no you wanna go out and defame one by uplifting all the others. Not to say that criticism ain't neccessary in all areas of life because that truth set you free, these dudes was doin shit that none of us was willin to do, and all were willing to die behind it, and a couple did. Ain't you in your 40s nephew? You gotta know this shit. You let Nas down with that bullshit you postin. The funny thing is, I bet you spat all that bullshit about pac because he was tryin to sign melle mel, it always points back at melle mel with you for some reason. Sheesh.

 

[Focal Point]

Do you think Martin or Malcolm could have made speeches of that magnitude before 25? Doubt it. It's about potential. Of which tupac shows a lot if he was given the time to refine himself.

Technically Martin did while pushing a movement and having a doctor's degree

 

[dwade206]

Your actions are detrimental and backward. You took the time to show respect to civil rights leaders all the while tearing down another Black man. Pac didn't, as you say, "Fuck a girl in the ass and then gang raped" anyone. There was no proof of it. Also, people have different ways of conveying the same message. There is absolutely no way I would compare Pac to Martin or Malcolm, but let's respect the fact that he planned to work with the Black community.

Also, since you're on your high horse, do you care to comment on the NOI newspapers that Farrakhan was apart of where they depicted Malcolm X getting torchered and murdered? Don't even answer that question. The point is, if we're going to respect our leaders, then let's do it RESPECTFULLY.

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

I'm still waiting on @freethewave and @Only Built 4 Cuban Linx to post something so I can shut their asses up.

Why don't you deal with that nigga that completely sonned your whole shit on the first page lol

And what are you going to shut me up on? Your NOI knowledge? Like my grandparents who were in the panthers, Gods and earths didn't teach me the degrees and knowledge of self already? I straight up hate old crusty ass niggas like you. Instead of trying to teach you only using this shit just to show how "smart" you are

Btw I completely disagree with what homie said about pac bringing the light on the Illuminati, he was dumb for that and you're stupid for this whole bullshit thread. If you're really a God try acting like you are Atleast

 

[dwade206]

damn 5 out here trying to light fire to the ether he dropped

There is no ether. Just a trolling, crab in a bucket mentality.

 

[double0suge]

Pac never killed another black man..Farrakhan did

 

[5 Grand]

I'm not a big Pac music fan at all but you gotta cut the shit. Pac was a better revolutionary than he was a rapper. Niggas can't be serious. That old bitter shit dead. If you look at it objectively, he had the perfect medium, and he had everyone's ears. I'm not sayin this guy would've reinvented the wheel because we don't know what would've stood in his way besides those bullets had he survived, but he definitely would have made somethin shake. That's more than 100% of the cooporate branded rappers we see now. Tupac was a star rapper, actor and all of the above, but he was a real nigga at heart, and that's why everybody loved him. Stop bein a hater bruh. Of course he's not a martin or malcolm. The circumstances didn't place him in those shoes, he was about to embark on shit before he died, he just never got a chance. It was all in his music(white mans world, brendas got a baby, keep your head up, pain ect....). If you can't see that, either you're bitter, or you're slow. Either way, I wish you the best OG.

I got this link from @Gorillawithattitude. He posted it to support whatever point he was trying to make in another thread. It made me laugh so hard I figured I'd make a thread about it.

First he claims to be "the future of the Black community" then @ 3:50 he says he's gonna sign Melle Mel and Scorpio ( From Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5) to his record label. he goes on the say that he's going to unite all the gangs.


I know there's a lot of Tupac dickriders on this site that think everything he said is gospel. But seriously, if you listen to what he's saying, he's just dreaming out loud. PAC was a phenomenal MC and was good at writing rhymes/poetry but public speaking is a completely different skillset.

Keep in mind, on October 16, 1995 Minister Louis Farrakhan spoke in front of a million Black men in front of the Capital in Washington D.C. In the meanwhile Tupac was in jail for fucking a girl in the ass and gang raping her. A jury found him guilty.

Tupac has a lot of fans on the IC and all over America but it's time to call a spade a spade. People are comparing him to Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. Anybody that makes such a comparison has obviously never heard a Martin Luther King speech, or a Malcolm X speech. You must have heard president Obama speak. That's how you deliver a speech. You don't curse, use slang or the n-word. It's unprofessional and makes you look immature. How would Martin Luther King look calling people "niggas" and "bitches". PAC was nowhere near the level of Martin Luther King or Malcolm X.

I'm not saying that Tupac wasn't passionate or that he didn't mean well. He's one of my favorite MCs but that's where it ends. He didn't have the knowledge, vocabulary or insight to sit at the table with politicians and world leaders like Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan or President Obama.

Gimmie a sec and I'll post some real speeches.

Bruh.... Malcolm was in jail before his switched his style up. It's common knowledge MLK was promiscuous. Jesse Jackson nigga don't make me laugh, we all men, and men have faults, that's why I don't follow no man off the ledge because I don't know what he ate for dinner last night before he shake my hand. You callin niggas pac dickriders, than you go out and post 100 different speeches to say Pac wasn't better than such and such. I love and respect all our leaders because they all brought something to the table that maybe the others couldn't. You could've easily named this thread "Black Excellence" and posted all those speeches and included pac and every nigga in here would've goated you because you had somethin for everybody. But no you wanna go out and defame one by uplifting all the others. Not to say that criticism ain't neccessary in all areas of life because that truth set you free, these dudes was doin shit that none of us was willin to do, and all were willing to die behind it, and a couple did. Ain't you in your 40s nephew? You gotta know this shit. You let Nas down with that bullshit you postin. The funny thing is, I bet you spat all that bullshit about pac because he was tryin to sign melle mel, it always points back at melle mel with you for some reason. Sheesh.

So far everybody that's made a comment keeps saying that "Pac was a revolutionary". That's the point of this thread, Pac wasn't a revolutionary. That's the reason I posted Malcolm X's Message to A Grassroots speech because he defined what a revolutionary is. He defined it in his speech. He gave a definition of the word revolutionary and Pac doesn't fit that description in any way shape or form. Repetition doesn't make something true. George Washington was a revolutionary because he lead the American Revolution and overthrew the British. Compare that to what Tupac did.

Keep regurgitating the same line about how "Tupac was a revolutionary". He wasn't and if you keep saying that he was it just makes it more clear that you don't know what the word "revolutionary" means.

Tupac didn't know how to give a coherent speech. He didn't know how to organize a movement. There's a difference between disorganized and unorganized. Disorganized is when things are out of order. Unorganized is when there is no order.

Tupac was unorganized.

Let's make a few comparisons

1. Martin Luther King - Lead Montgomery Bus Boycott, Gave "I Have A Dream Speech" on the March on Washington, Met with President Johnson several times, won the Nobel peace prize, organized a march for sanitation workers.

2. Malcolm X - Joined Nation of Islam and became a Minister. Travelled all around America setting up NOI temples (he probably set up around 50 temples in his 12 years as Minister). Left the NOI in 1964 to start his own movement. Travelled to the Middle East and Africa and met with world leaders, gave speeches at Oxford University and the Organization of African Unity.

3. Louis Farrakhan - Joined the NOI in the 1950s. Served as the National Spokesperson for the NOI when Malcolm left. Travelled extensively across the globe and met with world leaders in every continent. Gave speech at the Million Man March.

4. Jesse Jackson - Martin Luther King's right hand man. Formed the Rainbow Coalition. Fought for Affirmative Action and Equal Opportunity. Ran for President in 1984 and 1988.

Let's go back to Tupac,

Tupac was a recording artist. A better comparison would be to Bob Marley or Stevie Wonder. Tupac made inspirational music but that's where it ends.

I'm not making things up, people on the IC really say that Tupac was like Martin Luther King or Malcolm X. They use the word "revolutionary". If you call Tupac a revolutionary it simply means that you don't know what a revolutionary is. And you certainly don't know what a revolution is.

A revolution is when you remove a political party from power

 

[32DaysOfInfiniti]

How can you say what a dead man could have done? If Pac could act then he could be a public speaker, its all the same shit, reading a script...

Tell me you dont think any of those speeches (besides Malcolm) weren't prepared, written, and analyzed by a whole team of people before their figure head got up and delivered the message to the public.

Who's to say that Pac couldnt have been one of the first of his kind, a nigga with tats and criminal record, plugged into the political machine?

Pac had a raw natural ability of connecting with words, so who knows how much more refined he could have gotten with age in his abilities.

 

[dwade206]

Thread needs to be clapped

 

[5 Grand]

How can you say what a dead man could have done? If Pac could act then he could be a public speaker, its all the same shit, reading a script...

Tell me you dont think any of those speeches (besides Malcolm) weren't prepared, written, and analyzed by a whole team of people before their figure head got up and delivered the message to the public.

Who's to say that Pac couldnt have been one of the first of his kind, a nigga with tats and criminal record, plugged into the political machine?

Pac had a raw natural ability of connecting with words, so who knows how much more refined he could have gotten with age in his abilities.

@ the bolded. Malcolm already did that. He served 77 months in prison for burglary and larceny and became a civil rights leader.

Again, I'm not saying that Pac wasn't passionate about the cause, but between his beefing with Bad Boy and jumping Orlando Anderson he wasn't responsible enough to be taken seriously as a leader. You guys gotta see that.

Picture Barak Obama jumping somebody in a casino and kicking him when he's down. Here's the footage, can you picture our president, or a 26 year old Martin Luther King jumping somebody in a casino?

 

[GorillaWitAttitude]

I got this link from @Gorillawithattitude. He posted it to support whatever point he was trying to make in another thread. It made me laugh so hard I figured I'd make a thread about it.

First he claims to be "the future of the Black community" then @ 3:50 he says he's gonna sign Melle Mel and Scorpio ( From Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5) to his record label. he goes on the say that he's going to unite all the gangs.


I know there's a lot of Tupac dickriders on this site that think everything he said is gospel. But seriously, if you listen to what he's saying, he's just dreaming out loud. PAC was a phenomenal MC and was good at writing rhymes/poetry but public speaking is a completely different skillset.

Keep in mind, on October 16, 1995 Minister Louis Farrakhan spoke in front of a million Black men in front of the Capital in Washington D.C. In the meanwhile Tupac was in jail for fucking a girl in the ass and gang raping her. A jury found him guilty.

Tupac has a lot of fans on the IC and all over America but it's time to call a spade a spade. People are comparing him to Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. Anybody that makes such a comparison has obviously never heard a Martin Luther King speech, or a Malcolm X speech. You must have heard president Obama speak. That's how you deliver a speech. You don't curse, use slang or the n-word. It's unprofessional and makes you look immature. How would Martin Luther King look calling people "niggas" and "bitches". PAC was nowhere near the level of Martin Luther King or Malcolm X.

I'm not saying that Tupac wasn't passionate or that he didn't mean well. He's one of my favorite MCs but that's where it ends. He didn't have the knowledge, vocabulary or insight to sit at the table with politicians and world leaders like Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan or President Obama.

Gimmie a sec and I'll post some real speeches.

Lil Nigga you are one annoying little fuck you know that?

 

[Me1971]

How can you say what a dead man could have done? If Pac could act then he could be a public speaker, its all the same shit, reading a script...

Tell me you dont think any of those speeches (besides Malcolm) weren't prepared, written, and analyzed by a whole team of people before their figure head got up and delivered the message to the public.

Who's to say that Pac couldnt have been one of the first of his kind, a nigga with tats and criminal record, plugged into the political machine?

Pac had a raw natural ability of connecting with words, so who knows how much more refined he could have gotten with age in his abilities.

@ the bolded. Malcolm already did that. He served 77 months in prison for burglary and larceny and became a civil rights leader.

Again, I'm not saying that Pac wasn't passionate about the cause, but between his beefing with Bad Boy and jumping Orlando Anderson he wasn't responsible enough to be taken seriously as a leader. You guys gotta see that.

Picture Barak Obama jumping somebody in a casino and kicking him when he's down. Here's the footage, can you picture our president, or a 26 year old Martin Luther King jumping somebody in a casino?

You also have to compare their backgrounds to figure out why King and Pac approached things so differently.

For one, King came from a Christian background in a two parent middle class home, so he was already going to be a little but more balanced than Pac and Malcolm X from the start. Kings moral compass came from Christianity. King also had the opportunity to go off to school. Malcolm and Pac both had traumatic and eclectic upbringings that shaped their moral compass, which probably explains the reason they were both trouble makers during their youth. They were both cut from the same cloth in many ways, they shared many of the same ideologies and in it's no coincidence that nether one of them were fans of MLK. Pac wasn't as fortunate as X to get out of his "bad phase". X occupied his 77 months in prison finding Islam and joining the prison debate team, so of course he would've been more effective than Pac coming out of jail, he had 7 years of preparation with minimal distractions.

I think you have an uneducated, surface level opinion of Pac and you should've researched his background the same way you researched (and glossed over) the civil rights activist that you name....I think you would've had an understanding of his background and how that influenced certain choices that he made. It's not even realistic to expect someone with his background to not be a little bit off. Why would you choose to criticize someone without understanding when the information that answers your questions is accessible?

And you say that King would never be jumping someone, but he did sin in many other ways that were contradictory to his public image. You don't have to put these men on a moral pedestal to downplay Pac because when you do your research on them, you'll see that they're all flawed like most humans are. Try to understand someone fully before you completely enshrine them. You're better off just saying that "they were more effective than Pac", you don't have to go the route of moral comparisons.

I think a big part of Pac's stitch was "Me and others that act like me are the result of an underlying issue in society, it's just the symptom of a larger problem that ya'll need to look into" and he called it THUG LIFE, the acronym basically means that this is the negative outcome when society lacks compassion for it's young.

 

[Me1971]

I think you're knocking Pac because his revolutionary mindset was geared more towards a street demographic. He was no Malcom or Martin but he may have very well been headed in that direction. I don't see how you can read about his life from the early years up until his death and not see that he was revolutionary/activist at his core, unless you cherry picked.

For example, when he formed the T.H.U.G L.I.F.E code with Mutulu Shakur, that was done with good intentions. It was instrumental in the gang truce between the bloods and crips back in 92. Does Mutulu Shakur meet the definition of what a revolutionary is? Do you think Mutulu would've just cosigned any old thing if he didn't feel that it was benefiting the black community? Also, Pac was working with some of these people that you enshrine, such as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. He also worked with Ben Chavis, Sister Soulja, Sanyika Shakur, etc. You obviously hold some of these people in high regard, so doesn't it hold some weight that they would've wanted to work with him?

 

[Me1971]

The plenty of info out there. Here's some Pac stuff that may answer some of your confusion about dude and clear up some of the fallacies mentioned in this thread. The time frames are from the 80's when he was the chairman of the new afrikan panthers all the way up until Death Row. I don't expect you to listen to it all, it's a lot of stuff. There's more out there though.


















Driven by my ambitions, desire higher positions

So I proceed to make Gs, eternally in my mission

Is to be more than just a rap musician

The elevation of today's generation

If could make 'em listen


Now I was born as a rebel

Makin' trouble for the devil

Take this gangbang shit... to a whole 'nother level

Can you feel me now?

Armies in every city

Definition of power

Playas...are you with me?

See the war is the prophecy

Survival is the strategy

Rest in peace!

To my comrades that's deceased

Organize your streets in time

You'll have these devils petrified of a nigga in his right mind

They tell us that we hopeless and hellbound

It's for the brothas in penitentaries jailed down

I got you in my heart until the day I die

Think of the damage we could do... if we wasn't high

Can you picture me loc?

It's a thug's wrath

Political contracts and blood baths

For Matulu Shakur up in the Rikers

Though they got you

I'll never let 'em stop me

The struggle continues...