Tupac Talks About The "Illuminati"

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Here's a Malcolm X speech called Message To The Grassroots (which was actually recorded and released on a record album). At 6:50 into the speech he makes a very valid point about unity that Tupac didn't understand. This is one of the better speeches I've ever heard. He makes Tupac sound like a toddler.


Here's another Malcolm X speech called The Ballot or The Bullet. It was recorded in 1964 and he talks about politics. great speech but I actually like Message To The Grassroots better. But this speech shows that he understands how politics really works.
 
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Here's Martin Luther King's I Have A Dream speech. You've probably heard clips of it, but have you heard the whole thing? It's a short speech, only 17 minutes. Malcolm's speeches are like an hour.
 
Here's a Louis Farrakhan speech called The Pain of Being A Black Man in White America. There's absolutely no way in hell you can compare Tupac's so-called leadership to Minister Farrakhan. Minister Farrakhan doesn't start speaking until 10:00 into the clip.
 
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Here's one more. It's Reverand Jesse Jackson's 1984 David vs Goliath speech. For those of you too young to remember, Jesse made a serious run for president n the 1984 election. he was with Martin Luther King the day King was assassinated.
 
Get off Pac dick. The man was only 25 when he died. Any nigga that's that young talking about uplifting the black community may not be as polished as a Malcolm, but he's still spitting that real shit. Again, Pac was a baby
 
DJ-Mista-Em;7366932 said:
those pastors aren't tryna reach hood niggas though; malcom x and MLK wasn't any different then pastors we have today...just go to ah black church if you wanna hear ah 2014 MLK speech...

if ah real street person go to ah pastor, the pastor will brush him off...thats why i don't pay tithes to pastors, i give my tithes to folks in the streets...

2pac talked directly to "niggas" and "bitches" though...he spoke the language of the hoods...the people you quoted tryna communicate with middle class black people

Nonsense. Go to YouTube and download any Malcolm X speech. He had a way of reaching the poor and uneducated. the Nation of Islam reaches the people you speak of. Malcolm X served 77 months in prison for burglary so to suggest that he couldn't connect with "hood niggas" is absurd.

blackamerica;7366936 said:
Get off Pac dick. The man was only 25 when he died. Any nigga that's that young talking about uplifting the black community may not be as polished as a Malcolm, but he's still spitting that real shit. Again, Pac was a baby

Martin Luther King was 26 years old when he lead the Montgomery Bus Boycott so you can't use age as a crutch. In fact, Martin Luther King was a Reverend and had a Ph.D at 26 years old.

We can debate this for another 10 pages but anybody that takes Pac's side is going to look foolish when it's all over.

And another thing, KRS One, Chuck D and a handful of other rappers put together the Stop The Violence Movement and recorded the classic song Self Destruction. Tupac basically undid what they accomplished. Chuck D was saying "Fight The Power" and KRS was saying " Stop The Violence" and " You Must Learn" when PAC was a background dancer for Humpty Hump. It's not like Tupac brought anything new to the table, he just caused confusion and now a whole generation of rappers want to be thugs and gangstas. He set the black community back 50 years.
 
DJ-Mista-Em;7366932 said:
those pastors aren't tryna reach hood niggas though; malcom x and MLK wasn't any different then pastors we have today...just go to ah black church if you wanna hear ah 2014 MLK speech...

if ah real street person go to ah pastor, the pastor will brush him off...thats why i don't pay tithes to pastors, i give my tithes to folks in the streets...

2pac talked directly to "niggas" and "bitches" though...he spoke the language of the hoods...the people you quoted tryna communicate with middle class black people

^^^^ Your post is nonsense. You obviously don't know how The Nation of Islam operates. They recruit drug addicts and prostitutes. You should read The Autobiography of Malcolm X before you make any more posts in this thread. You sound foolish.
 
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DJ-Mista-Em;7367027 said:
2pac didnt ever rap about doing gangsta shit though...so why would he make anyone wanna be ah gangsta..he rapped about totting guns, but that aint no gangsta shit there...most people got guns...

c-bo rap about being ah gang banger...2pac rapped to the gang bangers

I don't know what you consider "gangsta shit" and I haven't heard all of Tupac's work but he has a few songs that I would consider "gangsta shit"

Strait Ballin (Thug Life)

Death Around The Corner

Ambitionz of A Ridah

Then again, I never said that PAC rhymed about "gangsta shit" in the first place so it's a moot point.
 
5 Grand;7367019 said:
DJ-Mista-Em;7366932 said:
those pastors aren't tryna reach hood niggas though; malcom x and MLK wasn't any different then pastors we have today...just go to ah black church if you wanna hear ah 2014 MLK speech...

if ah real street person go to ah pastor, the pastor will brush him off...thats why i don't pay tithes to pastors, i give my tithes to folks in the streets...

2pac talked directly to "niggas" and "bitches" though...he spoke the language of the hoods...the people you quoted tryna communicate with middle class black people

Nonsense. Go to YouTube and download any Malcolm X speech. He had a way of reaching the poor and uneducated. the Nation of Islam reaches the people you speak of. Malcolm X served 77 months in prison for burglary so to suggest that he couldn't connect with "hood niggas" is absurd.

blackamerica;7366936 said:
Get off Pac dick. The man was only 25 when he died. Any nigga that's that young talking about uplifting the black community may not be as polished as a Malcolm, but he's still spitting that real shit. Again, Pac was a baby

Martin Luther King was 26 years old when he lead the Montgomery Bus Boycott so you can't use age as a crutch. In fact, Martin Luther King was a Reverend and had a Ph.D at 26 years old.

We can debate this for another 10 pages but anybody that takes Pac's side is going to look foolish when it's all over.

And another thing, KRS One, Chuck D and a handful of other rappers put together the Stop The Violence Movement and recorded the classic song Self Destruction. Tupac basically undid what they accomplished. Chuck D was saying "Fight The Power" and KRS was saying " Stop The Violence" and " You Must Learn" when PAC was a background dancer for Humpty Hump. It's not like Tupac brought anything new to the table, he just caused confusion and now a whole generation of rappers want to be thugs and gangstas. He set the black community back 50 years.

Pac's generation and Malcom's generation were different. Pac spoke the language of his generation. Pac's generation was a result of what happened after we lost Malcom, Martin and the Panthers. We're still a lost people in this country, so we had no direction without our leaders and those soldiers of the movement eventually redirected their guns in the wrong direction; other black people and now we have a huge gang culture because of it.

 
Do you think Martin or Malcolm could have made speeches of that magnitude before 25? Doubt it. It's about potential. Of which tupac shows a lot if he was given the time to refine himself.
 
Your thread is written with a slant towards Pac, it doesn't seem partial.

Pac didn't go to jail for rape, there was no evidence whatsoever that she was rapped, in fact she sucked him off in the middle of the dance floor soon after introducing herself to him as a groupie that was friends with Haitian Jack; the same guy who set him up to be robbed. Why would he have to rape a woman who was willing to give her body to him? The jury didn't convict him of rape, he was sentenced for sexual assault, basically for touching her on the butt without permission. The judge stated that have gave him the maximum sentence in order to teach Pac a lesson, since he was always in so much trouble.

You're using Pac's perceive character to detract from him but a lot of the black leaders that you posted in this thread weren't morally superior to Pac, King was a Reverend who constantly cheated on his wife, he beat up prostitutes and was sadistic, dated white women, and plagiarized his most famous speech. Don't let me get started on Jeese Jackson and Farrakhan. The only difference with Pac is that he was upfront about his imperfections and contradictions. His skeletons weren't in the closet. The fact that you're holding an uneducated 20 something from a broken home to the same criteria of college educated middle aged men who had more time for growth, then that shows that you unconsciously think he's great.
 
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PAC RIP. Ether this thread::::: Sold his soul. In jail on napkin.... Nuff said ALL RAPPERS IN RAPGAME ARE. MASONS /lucerifians. Can't believe the reason is obsessed with these sell outs... Every other thread should be exposing these automatic writing/voodoo/spell casting/ chAnneling /. Magic black and white/. Homosexual / rituAl practicing FAGS My. God. Ur truly a nigger if. U can't see this. Even JFK SAW IT....
 
KANYE "write my curses in cursive". They ALL KNOW..

Rap musick is just another way to cast spells. On people who otherwise wouldn't be so easily influenced

People need to wake up...."da white power structure is just as interested in slavery. Just they use modern methods"""

 
DJ-Mista-Em;7366932 said:
those pastors aren't tryna reach hood niggas though; malcom x and MLK wasn't any different then pastors we have today...just go to ah black church if you wanna hear ah 2014 MLK speech...

if ah real street person go to ah pastor, the pastor will brush him off...thats why i don't pay tithes to pastors, i give my tithes to folks in the streets...

2pac talked directly to "niggas" and "bitches" though...he spoke the language of the hoods...the people you quoted tryna communicate with middle class black people

Give and go. Stockton and Malone

These "pastors are masons". Point blank.

They have a purpose to deceive gods churches

That's why believing. In. YAHWEH is soooo. Mocked like foolishness.... Last dayz. Ppl. "Call upon his name. And ye shall be saved"

 

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