Truth be told Kanye better than Dre

[Stew]

Stew acting like that type of nigga who still think pac is alive cuz he ain't PERSONALLY see pac in the casket himself....Cmon bruh

Nah, actually Im just counter arguing your and others argument by asking for proof. Terrible analogy, bruh.

But how can you ask for proof then discredit the proof when your shown the producers who have said this....if I show you proof of a certain producers making this claim and you discredit it by making an excuse for them making that claim then how much proof do you need... there's a reason why its called ghost producing and ghost writing you're not suppose to "see proof"

I thought I already explained this? Because of their credibility in which their source came from, Suge Knight, Death Row Records, The Source Magazine article. Not shaky coming from them at all? Nobody else has ever said this.

"Dubcnn: Back to "Boss Life". Dre sounds like he's been taking piano lessons or something, all the beats he got are like real piano beats.

Yeah, he's doing his muthafuckin' thang man! I've been watchin' shit on TV, I've been seeing shit where niggas been acting like they made beats for Dr. Dre and they did this, and did that, like the nigga can't make beats! What I've been wanting to say is that, if you was one of the keyboard players, or a nigga that was a part of making some of his hit records, then Dr. Dre coached your ass on what to play. You didn't just come in the studio and think of the melodies and the type of rhythms to play. Nigga that shit was given to you by the mind of Dr. Dre! And if you were that good, why haven't you continued to make hit records and he's still continued to make hit records? I just want to speak on that, cause I've been seeing some shit on TV, that's been throwing me the fuck off, with niggas saying they did this and did that. The nigga Dr. Dre is the nigga that gave them the opportunity. He can do the shit by his muthafuckin' self, me and him done sat in the studio where he done made hit records, without nobody there but just me and him! You feel me?

Dubcnn: You can say whatever you wanna say about Dr. Dre, but one thing that's for sure is that he's got something, because whatever he touches is gold. Whatever he does, he does it right.

And then at the same time, it's like, you'll always find niggas crying about "I was one of the producers for Dr. Dre, he stole my shit!" He ain't stole nothing from you, nigga! If you that good, why don't you continue to make it!"

But cool just for shits and giggles lets throw the 2 or 3 people that said this out of the equation. Where/what are the tracks that are ghost produced(if them niggas was that mad, NAME THE TRACKS) and why havnt these artist made a name for themselves producing the same quality as said tracks? You and I both know we know who's ghost written for people, theyve either said it or no need to cause its in the credits.

I ain't tryna take nothing from that nigga dre like he ain't one of the goats in producing but its the same thing with ye song of these tracks with their names attached to em sometimes maybe not often but sometimes is just that...their names attached... And let's be real the credits only tell you who's apart of a track they don't tell you how big of a part....

example: "in the club" was co produced by mike elizondo now what part did he play??? The credits ain't gonna tell you you're gonna have to do the research...I'm not saying he ghost produced the track I'm just saying credits ain't gonna tell you who played what part....

But hey some ppl need to see things to believe it and others try to use their sense and come up with their own conclusion till proved otherwise so we're just different.

The research is not hard to find. I feel like If you're a fan of these cats music, you should know whats going on, which is why Im in here defending Dre from corny accusations from Ex Death Row employees and cats that dont know what their talkin about. Mike Elizondo has been playing the Bass for Dre for more than a decade now. You should know Scott Storch played the Keys for Dre on a few songs, Yella on the drums back in the day etc...All these cats are credited for their part. Last time I checked thats what being a producer is all about, putting all the music together. Quincy Jones didnt make Thriller by himself but you never hear anybody say niggas was ghost producing for him lol its the hate in Hip Hop b.

 

[manofmorehouse]

@Stew by your logic, wouldn't that invalidate all the complaints and arguments people have made against Suge? Dr. Dre is an old employee, as is Daz, Snoop, and everyone else that has said negative things about him. Wouldn't they all be considered disgruntle employees?? Anyway, I would take Kanye over Dre. Personal preference

 

[GetoBoy]

Stew acting like that type of nigga who still think pac is alive cuz he ain't PERSONALLY see pac in the casket himself....Cmon bruh

Nah, actually Im just counter arguing your and others argument by asking for proof. Terrible analogy, bruh.

But how can you ask for proof then discredit the proof when your shown the producers who have said this....if I show you proof of a certain producers making this claim and you discredit it by making an excuse for them making that claim then how much proof do you need... there's a reason why its called ghost producing and ghost writing you're not suppose to "see proof"

I thought I already explained this? Because of their credibility in which their source came from, Suge Knight, Death Row Records, The Source Magazine article. Not shaky coming from them at all? Nobody else has ever said this.

"Dubcnn: Back to "Boss Life". Dre sounds like he's been taking piano lessons or something, all the beats he got are like real piano beats.

Yeah, he's doing his muthafuckin' thang man! I've been watchin' shit on TV, I've been seeing shit where niggas been acting like they made beats for Dr. Dre and they did this, and did that, like the nigga can't make beats! What I've been wanting to say is that, if you was one of the keyboard players, or a nigga that was a part of making some of his hit records, then Dr. Dre coached your ass on what to play. You didn't just come in the studio and think of the melodies and the type of rhythms to play. Nigga that shit was given to you by the mind of Dr. Dre! And if you were that good, why haven't you continued to make hit records and he's still continued to make hit records? I just want to speak on that, cause I've been seeing some shit on TV, that's been throwing me the fuck off, with niggas saying they did this and did that. The nigga Dr. Dre is the nigga that gave them the opportunity. He can do the shit by his muthafuckin' self, me and him done sat in the studio where he done made hit records, without nobody there but just me and him! You feel me?

Dubcnn: You can say whatever you wanna say about Dr. Dre, but one thing that's for sure is that he's got something, because whatever he touches is gold. Whatever he does, he does it right.

And then at the same time, it's like, you'll always find niggas crying about "I was one of the producers for Dr. Dre, he stole my shit!" He ain't stole nothing from you, nigga! If you that good, why don't you continue to make it!"

But cool just for shits and giggles lets throw the 2 or 3 people that said this out of the equation. Where/what are the tracks that are ghost produced(if them niggas was that mad, NAME THE TRACKS) and why havnt these artist made a name for themselves producing the same quality as said tracks? You and I both know we know who's ghost written for people, theyve either said it or no need to cause its in the credits.

I ain't tryna take nothing from that nigga dre like he ain't one of the goats in producing but its the same thing with ye song of these tracks with their names attached to em sometimes maybe not often but sometimes is just that...their names attached... And let's be real the credits only tell you who's apart of a track they don't tell you how big of a part....

example: "in the club" was co produced by mike elizondo now what part did he play??? The credits ain't gonna tell you you're gonna have to do the research...I'm not saying he ghost produced the track I'm just saying credits ain't gonna tell you who played what part....

But hey some ppl need to see things to believe it and others try to use their sense and come up with their own conclusion till proved otherwise so we're just different.

The research is not hard to find. I feel like If you're a fan of these cats music, you should know whats going on, which is why Im in here defending Dre from corny accusations from Ex Death Row employees and cats that dont know what their talkin about. Mike Elizondo has been playing the Bass for Dre for more than a decade now. You should know Scott Storch played the Keys for Dre on a few songs, Yella on the drums back in the day etc...All these cats are credited for their part. Last time I checked thats what being a producer is all about, putting all the music together. Quincy Jones didnt make Thriller by himself but you never hear anybody say niggas was ghost producing for him lol its the hate in Hip Hop b.

Naw bruh I feel you.... I guess to get back to the start while their word can be seen as iffy based on their relationship at the time of their claims it's not something that should be seen as completely unbelievable and be ignored and thrown out....I guess until we have video footage its just gonna be his word against theirs...

 

[Stew]

@Stew by your logic, wouldn't that invalidate all the complaints and arguments people have made against Suge? Dr. Dre is an old employee, as is Daz, Snoop, and everyone else that has said negative things about him. Wouldn't they all be considered disgruntle employees?? Anyway, I would take Kanye over Dre. Personal preference

What? The courts say they have a right to be disgruntled employees with the lawsuits. Need proof?

 

[slim jay]

soulful beats >>>>>

kanye in his prime was a monster, hes the godfather of this kind of beat:

 

[FourEfil]

 

[SnuffDaddy]

soulful beats >>>>>

kanye in his prime was a monster, hes the godfather of this kind of beat:

Well duh. Kanye clearly samples way more than Dre and samples soul music more often so of course its more soulfoul, technically. But Kanye loops & chops old soul records, at least at that time, so of course u feel theyre more soulfoul. Dre sampled too but nowhere near as much, not the same type of samples and was way more creative with them.

Lets not act like Kanye wasnt choppin, looping & just adding drums to alot of old and often recognizable soul joints.

 

[georgia boi]

Kanye West as a producer is overrated. Nothing Kanye has done as a producer is as iconic as The Chronic or Straight Outta Compton. Dre's production was also a huge part of the successes of Snoop, Eminem, 50 Cent, and Game. Many Hip Hop producers (Kanye included) cite Dre as an influence.

 

[georgia boi]

ummmm.... it is WELL KNOWN dr dre has put his name on numerous beats to get more money. I aint NEVER heard a soul say that about Kanye West.

John Legend says Kanye doesn't make beats anymore, yet his name is credited as a co-producer and an additional producer. There's a difference between making a beat and producing.

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

Kanye stole Dre´s drum loop from XXplosive nigga.Dre is on some other level shit but I give it to kanye.Can someone put me on some shit he produced r&b.

 

[georgia boi]

niggas was ghost producing for him lol its the hate in Hip Hop b. [/quote]

Stew acting like that type of nigga who still think pac is alive cuz he ain't PERSONALLY see pac in the casket himself....Cmon bruh

Nah, actually Im just counter arguing your and others argument by asking for proof. Terrible analogy, bruh.

But how can you ask for proof then discredit the proof when your shown the producers who have said this....if I show you proof of a certain producers making this claim and you discredit it by making an excuse for them making that claim then how much proof do you need... there's a reason why its called ghost producing and ghost writing you're not suppose to "see proof"

I thought I already explained this? Because of their credibility in which their source came from, Suge Knight, Death Row Records, The Source Magazine article. Not shaky coming from them at all? Nobody else has ever said this.

"Dubcnn: Back to "Boss Life". Dre sounds like he's been taking piano lessons or something, all the beats he got are like real piano beats.

Yeah, he's doing his muthafuckin' thang man! I've been watchin' shit on TV, I've been seeing shit where niggas been acting like they made beats for Dr. Dre and they did this, and did that, like the nigga can't make beats! What I've been wanting to say is that, if you was one of the keyboard players, or a nigga that was a part of making some of his hit records, then Dr. Dre coached your ass on what to play. You didn't just come in the studio and think of the melodies and the type of rhythms to play. Nigga that shit was given to you by the mind of Dr. Dre! And if you were that good, why haven't you continued to make hit records and he's still continued to make hit records? I just want to speak on that, cause I've been seeing some shit on TV, that's been throwing me the fuck off, with niggas saying they did this and did that. The nigga Dr. Dre is the nigga that gave them the opportunity. He can do the shit by his muthafuckin' self, me and him done sat in the studio where he done made hit records, without nobody there but just me and him! You feel me?

Dubcnn: You can say whatever you wanna say about Dr. Dre, but one thing that's for sure is that he's got something, because whatever he touches is gold. Whatever he does, he does it right.

And then at the same time, it's like, you'll always find niggas crying about "I was one of the producers for Dr. Dre, he stole my shit!" He ain't stole nothing from you, nigga! If you that good, why don't you continue to make it!"

But cool just for shits and giggles lets throw the 2 or 3 people that said this out of the equation. Where/what are the tracks that are ghost produced(if them niggas was that mad, NAME THE TRACKS) and why havnt these artist made a name for themselves producing the same quality as said tracks? You and I both know we know who's ghost written for people, theyve either said it or no need to cause its in the credits.

I ain't tryna take nothing from that nigga dre like he ain't one of the goats in producing but its the same thing with ye song of these tracks with their names attached to em sometimes maybe not often but sometimes is just that...their names attached... And let's be real the credits only tell you who's apart of a track they don't tell you how big of a part....

example: "in the club" was co produced by mike elizondo now what part did he play??? The credits ain't gonna tell you you're gonna have to do the research...I'm not saying he ghost produced the track I'm just saying credits ain't gonna tell you who played what part....

But hey some ppl need to see things to believe it and others try to use their sense and come up with their own conclusion till proved otherwise so we're just different.

LOL @ the bolded. The credits clearly state who did what. For example, Scott Storch is credited with keys, Mike Elizondo is credited with guitar, and Mark Batson is crdited with keys. Storch's work with Dre sounds nothing like what he was doing with The Roots or Timbaland. Now Storch's solo work tends to mimic that of the guys he's worked with, but he still has his own sound (i.e. Fat Joe's "Make It Rain " or more recently Ross's "Supreme"). Mike Elizondo's work with Maroon 5 doesn't sound like what he's done with Dre. Same goes for Mark Batson outside of some of the stuff he's done for Anthony Hamilton.

 

[the_focused_one]

ummmm.... it is WELL KNOWN dr dre has put his name on numerous beats to get more money. I aint NEVER heard a soul say that about Kanye West.

Proof that doesnt involve anybody thats had beef with Dre. Ill wait......

niggas say it cause its true. Kanye production is an experience versus just a dope beat. Common-Be intro was when I realized the genius of this dude.

Co-Sign... That is one of the GREATEST INTROS of ALL TIME and Kanye really put Common in the ZONE on that album. Still bump it today..

 

[THE_R_]

Kanye stole Dre´s drum loop from XXplosive nigga.Dre is on some other level shit but I give it to kanye.Can someone put me on some shit he produced r&b.

THIS IS CORRECT....HE STOLE DRES DRUMS FROM XXPLOSIVE FOR HOV'S THIS CAN'T BE LIFE....

KANYE HAS ALWAYS ADMITTED THAT SHE'S WACK WITH THE DRUMS THO....

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Kanye stole Dre´s drum loop from XXplosive nigga.Dre is on some other level shit but I give it to kanye.Can someone put me on some shit he produced r&b.

Wow now we dont know what sampling is

 

[namnudda]

They are both great producers..I dont think art is made to be compared it is appreciated or not understood but unique to the artist who produces it..both are great there is no such thing as the greatest when it comes to art

 

[mr.mark]

Dr.dre's body of work speaks for its self....As well as Kanye's ..but sonically I think Dr dre is better at mixing an album and he is better at bring talent together for songs/albums

 

[cricejr]

This is funny...kanye isnt even top 5 and people are comparing him to a dude in the game 30 years and still goin? Stop it. 808s & heartbreak...now name a wack Dre album.

 

[qtipp73]

This is funny...kanye isnt even top 5 and people are comparing him to a dude in the game 30 years and still goin? Stop it. 808s & heartbreak...now name a wack Dre album.

you mean detox which the nigga still hasnt found his "sound" for lol. I need a doctor was ass juice too

 

[qtipp73]

Kanye stole Dre´s drum loop from XXplosive nigga.Dre is on some other level shit but I give it to kanye.Can someone put me on some shit he produced r&b.

@‌Cabana_Da_Don

Beyonce “Party” featuring Andre 3000

Janet Jackson “I Want You”

Keyshia Cole “I Changed My Mind”

Monica “Knock Knock”-classic beat for rnb

Mariah Carey “Stay The Night”

Alicia Keys “You Don’t Know My Name- my favorite Kanye rnb song

Jay-Z Me & My Girlfriend

Brandy “Talk About Our Love”

 

[TrillRussell]

Kanye stole Dre´s drum loop from XXplosive nigga.Dre is on some other level shit but I give it to kanye.Can someone put me on some shit he produced r&b.

@‌Cabana_Da_Don

Beyonce “Party” featuring Andre 3000

Janet Jackson “I Want You”

Keyshia Cole “I Changed My Mind”

Monica “Knock Knock”-classic beat for rnb

Mariah Carey “Stay The Night”

Alicia Keys “You Don’t Know My Name- my favorite Kanye rnb song

Jay-Z Me & My Girlfriend

Brandy “Talk About Our Love”

Knock Knock was Missy's work..she wrote and produced the track..Me & My Girlfriend is an old Pac song..so he aint have much work to do there.but maybe tweak a few kicks and add the breakdown...but everything else is accurate tho.