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Plutarch;5464184 said:that's funny. I accidentally and randomly stumbled upon some site that was trying to say that Trayvon was a troubled delinquint, and that this fact/idea needs to be fully acknowledged for the trial. They had these pics of him, his pops, and his moms, which I've never seen before:
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Thought they were interesting. Regardless, Zimmerman deserves a fair trial without the media bias, but as far as I know, I don't see him getting hit with a hard sentence. He's an idiot, and he instigated the shit unecessarily, but he seems to have acted in self-defense even if it was rash, so how hard can you hit him?
in the end, though, wanting a fair trial for EVERYONE is not about saying "i really don't think this guy, so we can't have a fair trial in this circumstance," because that concept can be applied to everyone. wanting a fair trial for Zimmerman is not the same thing as approving of every damn thing that's been said in theoretical support of Zimmerman (or hell, Trayvon)pralims;5543157 said:think is i hear the fair trial shit....but this young man is being painted as a hoodlum and does that give a reason he should die? yet we talk fair trial.
Plutarch;5464184 said:that's funny. I accidentally and randomly stumbled upon some site that was trying to say that Trayvon was a troubled delinquint, and that this fact/idea needs to be fully acknowledged for the trial. They had these pics of him, his pops, and his moms, which I've never seen before:
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Thought they were interesting. Regardless, Zimmerman deserves a fair trial without the media bias, but as far as I know, I don't see him getting hit with a hard sentence. He's an idiot, and he instigated the shit unecessarily, but he seems to have acted in self-defense even if it was rash, so how hard can you hit him?
waterproof;5545079 said:Plutarch;5464184 said:that's funny. I accidentally and randomly stumbled upon some site that was trying to say that Trayvon was a troubled delinquint, and that this fact/idea needs to be fully acknowledged for the trial. They had these pics of him, his pops, and his moms, which I've never seen before:
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Thought they were interesting. Regardless, Zimmerman deserves a fair trial without the media bias, but as far as I know, I don't see him getting hit with a hard sentence. He's an idiot, and he instigated the shit unecessarily, but he seems to have acted in self-defense even if it was rash, so how hard can you hit him?
WHAT IN THE FUCK DO THESE PICTURES GOT TO DO WITH A YOUNG BLACK TEENAGER GETTING KILLED IN COLD BLOOD.....
Plutarch;5464184 said:that's funny. I accidentally and randomly stumbled upon some site that was trying to say that Trayvon was a troubled delinquint, and that this fact/idea needs to be fully acknowledged for the trial. They had these pics of him, his pops, and his moms, which I've never seen before:
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Thought they were interesting. Regardless, Zimmerman deserves a fair trial without the media bias, but as far as I know, I don't see him getting hit with a hard sentence. He's an idiot, and he instigated the shit unecessarily, but he seems to have acted in self-defense even if it was rash, so how hard can you hit him?
i believe the argument is that Trayvon has been presented as this innocent young child who could not pose a threat to Zimmerman when ... cue dramatic noise ... THE TRUTH IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT OH MY GODDMTxCannabis;5545236 said:Word, what's wrong with him flashing money? lol.. him throwing up his middle fingers doesn't mean shit either..
janklow;5552011 said:i believe the argument is that Trayvon has been presented as this innocent young child who could not pose a threat to Zimmerman when ... cue dramatic noise ... THE TRUTH IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT OH MY GODDMTxCannabis;5545236 said:Word, what's wrong with him flashing money? lol.. him throwing up his middle fingers doesn't mean shit either..
it really has nothing to do with whether or not Zimmerman's actions were on the level, so i don't get it. but it's part of the phase where Zimmerman supporters smear Trayvon and Trayvon supporters smear Zimmerman and janklow is just disgusted with EVERYONE
janklow;5552011 said:i believe the argument is that Trayvon has been presented as this innocent young child who could not pose a threat to Zimmerman when ... cue dramatic noise ... THE TRUTH IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT OH MY GODDMTxCannabis;5545236 said:Word, what's wrong with him flashing money? lol.. him throwing up his middle fingers doesn't mean shit either..
it really has nothing to do with whether or not Zimmerman's actions were on the level, so i don't get it. but it's part of the phase where Zimmerman supporters smear Trayvon and Trayvon supporters smear Zimmerman and janklow is just disgusted with EVERYONE
i don't think Zimmerman is claiming he shot Trayvon the second he saw him. he's claiming he shot him because Trayvon attacked him. whether or not Zimmerman is racist/Trayvon is a thug should be aside from resolving this case.pralims;5552537 said:did this kid pose a threat when he was approached by a strange man? just saying
janklow;5555717 said:i don't think Zimmerman is claiming he shot Trayvon the second he saw him. he's claiming he shot him because Trayvon attacked him. whether or not Zimmerman is racist/Trayvon is a thug should be aside from resolving this case.pralims;5552537 said:did this kid pose a threat when he was approached by a strange man? just saying
now, i don't punch or shoot every strange guy that approaches me, but again, i don't think either side of the argument is saying that's all that happened.
the defense disputes this scenario, which is the point: you're not entitled to shoot someone because they turn around to defend themselves. but if someone has you on the ground and is attacking you? perhaps.pralims;5559058 said:the fact that you going around following people and the moment they turn to defend themselves you claim self defense...you provoked it and cried victim when you knew you had a gun to begin with.
janklow;5559929 said:the defense disputes this scenario, which is the point: you're not entitled to shoot someone because they turn around to defend themselves. but if someone has you on the ground and is attacking you? perhaps.pralims;5559058 said:the fact that you going around following people and the moment they turn to defend themselves you claim self defense...you provoked it and cried victim when you knew you had a gun to begin with.
Trayvon might have gotten into a fistfight with him because he thought Zimmerman was a crazy stalker and he (Trayvon) wanted to defend HIMSELF. but i suspect the law doesn't give you the right to punch a man in the face because he's following you around. and honestly, if the argument is "if you're a young kid from the hood, you just start punching anyone who asks you all kinds of questions," while i understand the point, i think you're playing into the hands of guys trying to smear Trayvon's character.
personally, this is why i think the most likely scenario is that they both, at some point in the series of events, made some bad decision(s). but it's better to thrash it out with forensic evidence in court than with a bunch of trash talk on the internet.
i don't think the law says "i'm being followed and i was concerned about it" is justification for shooting someone.pralims;5561205 said:so if im being followed, i can turn an shoot if i feel threatened and i dont have to retreat because i felt harm was on the horizon.
why are you turning around and hitting them? that's my question.pralims;5561205 said:but if i turn an hit someone instead of shooting them...then i should be shot because im attacking them