Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman Discussion Thread...

[janklow]

He's the one lying but gets rewarded two different judges because he feels he isn't treated "fairly". C'mon son. Its clear Zimmerman's been getting over since he pulled that trigger

this absolutely doesn't change my point that if you want him convicted, you want him convicted in the most ironclad way possible.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

@janklow

why are you defending dude so much?

most people look at it like this guy is lying and making a mockery of the system and you are basically saying let the system handle it and give him a fair trial.

god forbid if it was your child or family member that this happened to...would you feel the same way if it seemed like everyone was on the other persons side when you know that your family wasnt doing anything wrong.

you are a gun owner from what i remember right? what would suggest that could stop mentally unstable people from getting guns? common sense tells you this guy has some sort of complex and should not have had a gun.

he should not have following the kid, yet feels hes right to respond with lethal force. so its ok to run around an talk shit an when someone punches me in the face i can say i felt threatened and shoot them?

at whatr point is this shit all fukked up

 

[janklow]

@janklow

why are you defending dude so much?

most people look at it like this guy is lying and making a mockery of the system and you are basically saying let the system handle it and give him a fair trial.

what's absolutely SAD about this is that me saying "give him a fair trial" is considered "defending dude so much." god forbid both the guilty and innocent alike get fair trials!

god forbid if it was your child or family member that this happened to...would you feel the same way if it seemed like everyone was on the other persons side when you know that your family wasnt doing anything wrong

well, for one thing, this is not a scenario where anyone KNOWS exactly what happened. that's the whole issue: Zimmerman's alive, Martin's not, and both sides have legions of supporters who have decided they know exactly what happened. further, Martin's family feels like "everyone is on the other person's side?" come on, now.

you are a gun owner from what i remember right? what would suggest that could stop mentally unstable people from getting guns? common sense tells you this guy has some sort of complex and should not have had a gun.

well, this gets into a question of how you're rating these people as "mentally unstable." and you know, i think Zimmerman's got (or had) a bit of a hero complex, but i'm not sure what in his background says he shouldn't have had a gun. it might be better not to have one if you're going to pretend you're a cop once you get it, of course.

side note: as a gun owner, i don't think we need any more gun control laws because the guys that push for them tend to be either a) liars, b) ignorant of what they speak, or c) both.

he should not have following the kid, yet feels hes right to respond with lethal force. so its ok to run around an talk shit an when someone punches me in the face i can say i felt threatened and shoot them

tell me how the scenario you're describing meets the standards of the laws we're talking about.

 

[mc317]

George Zimmerman is a communist.

 

[r.prince18]

http://global.christianpost.com/news/george-zimmerman-dna-found-on-gun-not-trayvon-martins-81875/

looks like george has another problem. trayvon dna is not on georgres gun

 

[CollegeBoi12]

By Associated Press, Updated: Wednesday, October 17, 11:06 AM

SANFORD, Fla. — A judge set a tentative trial date next year for a neighborhood watch volunteer charged with fatally shooting Trayvon Martin.

In her first hearing since taking over the case, Judge Debra S. Nelson said June 10 would be the start of George Zimmerman’s trial, though the date could change as both sides get prepared for what is expected to be a three-week trial.

Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder in the February shooting of the unarmed 17-year-old Martin. Zimmerman claims he was attacked and the shooting was self-defense.

Zimmerman’s defense team tweeted after the hearing that they will likely ask for a “stand your ground” hearing in April or May. Under Florida law, Zimmerman can request the hearing and argue his self-defense case before the trial. If the judge were to side with Zimmerman, the murder charge would be dismissed and there would be no trial.

Nelson took over the case in August after an appeals’ court said Judge Kenneth Lester should be removed for making disparaging remarks about Zimmerman’s character. Lester also advocated for additional charges against Zimmerman during a bond hearing, saying he lied to the judge about how much money he had.

Zimmerman, who is free on bail, was not at the hearing Wednesday. His attorneys will be back in court Friday to argue several motions.

They have said in court documents that prosecutors aren’t turning information over in a timely manner and they are not getting all of the evidence they have asked for.

“I’m hoping Friday’s hearing will give us a good idea of how quickly we’re gonna get discovery,” O’Mara said after hearing.

He said Friday’s hearing could be central to the timetable for everything going forward.

Attorneys for more than a dozen media organizations, including The Associated Press, will also be there to fight efforts by the prosecutor to seal defense subpoenas and other case records.

Also, a hearing for Zimmerman’s wife was delayed until December. Shellie Zimmerman was charged with perjury after prosecutors said she misled the court about how much her husband and she had for his bail.

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[dr funky resurrected]

 

[HipHopisGlobalBitch]

=plcp

 

[blackamerica]

i am in such disgust at him wanting a fair trial, just like he gave the person he killed.

everyone deserves a fair trial whether you like them or not. do you even realize you're sitting arguing, "well, if i don't like the guy, i don't give a damn whether or not his trial is fair?"

now consider how many young black guys in the south have gotten fucked by the concept of people saying "i don't like these guys and presume them guilty, fuck their fair trial and legal rights." if he's in the wrong, you want him to be convicted FAIRLY so that he does the time he deserves.

Americans: the most disappointing people ever

You sound like damn coon

The system has been more than generous to George Zimmerman up to this point. For him to say "now we get a fair trail" as if he's the one who's been treated unjustly should anger any nigga following this case. If Zimmerman were black and Trayvon white aint no way Zimmerman gettin all these exceptions. GTFOH.

 

[janklow]

You sound like damn coon

it took you months to come up with THAT?

wait... you DID reply to this, i replied to you, and then you wandered off for weeks. weird. anyway:

The system has been more than generous to George Zimmerman up to this point. For him to say "now we get a fair trail" as if he's the one who's been treated unjustly should anger any nigga following this case. If Zimmerman were black and Trayvon white aint no way Zimmerman gettin all these exceptions. GTFOH.

i will say it again: "if he's in the wrong, you want him to be convicted FAIRLY so that he does the time he deserves."

if the system's been overly generous, it doesn't change whether or not Zimmerman should be convicted on the merits, it simply means we need to address problems with the system. but the fact that Trayvon wasn't white doesn't mean we should root for a non-functional justice system for reasons of payback.

 

[bookert]

Don't Get Caught Wearing A Hoodie!

 

[blackamerica]

if the system's been overly generous, it doesn't change whether or not Zimmerman should be convicted on the merits, it simply means we need to address problems with the system. but the fact that Trayvon wasn't white doesn't mean we should root for a non-functional justice system for reasons of payback.

We've already seen enough evidence that shows Zimmerman iniated the altercation. The only thing we dont know is who got the better of who once Zimmerman ran that kid down (which is irrelevant). Bottom line, the man shot and killed a unarmed kid and deserves jail time. We can debate how much jail time but Zimmerman needs to be behind bars. Like I said, if a black kid in a hoodie would've killed a unarmed man nobody would be thinking having a "fair trial".All the injustice black folks have seen in this country, last thing I wanna read is shitbags like Zimmerman having anything fair. If things were fair then Trayvon would be still alive

 

[janklow]

We've already seen enough evidence that shows Zimmerman iniated the altercation.

see, here's the thing: while that's probably more debatable than you're saying, if the evidence shows Zimmerman is at fault, then you should want him to be tried and convicted fairly and get the sentence he deserves.

Like I said, if a black kid in a hoodie would've killed a unarmed man nobody would be thinking having a "fair trial".

and that's a good thing? because you're sitting here arguing against fair trials.

All the injustice black folks have seen in this country, last thing I wanna read is shitbags like Zimmerman having anything fair.

the point is that it's not about Zimmerman having anything fair, it's about having the system be fair for EVERYONE. a system that fucks over people because of emotions or in response to public opinion is the same kind of system that gives the black kid in the hoodie you're talking about a raw deal.

 

[blackamerica]

The point is that it's not about Zimmerman having anything fair, it's about having the system be fair for EVERYONE. a system that fucks over people because of emotions or in response to public opinion is the same kind of system that gives the black kid in the hoodie you're talking about a raw deal.

You obviously have a overwhelming amount of trust in the system. Really? The same system that's fucked us over and gave guilty white folks they freedom. I want Zimmerman to rot in jail. If thats what you call fair so be it. But judging at this point, he's already received favoritism from the system

 

[south4life]

I'm mad they ain't lock this bitch and his hoe up yet!

He changes the story all the time and they should have locked his wife up for the bullshit they tried to pull.

 

[janklow]

You obviously have a overwhelming amount of trust in the system. Really?

well, let me be a little redundant: if the system's fucked up, it doesn't change whether or not Zimmerman should be convicted on the merits, it simply means we need to address problems with the system. it doesn't mean we should root for the system to work unfairly because we like the results this time. and frankly, most of the positions on this case are based on some emotional reaction(s) and nothing factual.

The same system that's fucked us over and gave guilty white folks they freedom.

...which is the kind of thing that happens when the system is fucking over people because of emotions or in response to public opinion.

I want Zimmerman to rot in jail. If thats what you call fair so be it.

if he deserves to rot in jail, then i want him to be fairly tried and fairly convicted so there's no bitching about how unfair the whole process was and nothing for him to use on appeal to get out based on.

 

[dr funky resurrected]

so whats new with this case?

 

[Plutarch]

that's funny. I accidentally and randomly stumbled upon some site that was trying to say that Trayvon was a troubled delinquint, and that this fact/idea needs to be fully acknowledged for the trial. They had these pics of him, his pops, and his moms, which I've never seen before:

Thought they were interesting. Regardless, Zimmerman deserves a fair trial without the media bias, but as far as I know, I don't see him getting hit with a hard sentence. He's an idiot, and he instigated the shit unecessarily, but he seems to have acted in self-defense even if it was rash, so how hard can you hit him?

 

[luke1733]

Alot of respect to black people for acting at the right time.

 

[luke1733]

What time? We acted when the cops tried to let him off. Just like when Rodney King got beat. We waited to till the cops were acquitted. Patience and action