kingblaze84;9270292 said:
zzombie;9268047 said:
kingblaze84;9267765 said:
@zzombie
Mankind is lazy? Mankind IS building shelters and is helping to feed much of the poor. I agree mankind can do a lot more but I don't see the lazy Bible god giving a helping hand. Parasites and natural disasters are still affecting millions around the world, where is the lazy Bible god to help stop these natural disasters and parasites? Did mankind create natural disasters and parasites now? Give me a damn break.
And since when has "god" given man instructions to do anything? Other people have given other people instructions. I don't see any god giving people instructions anywhere, please show me where that's happening at. You already admitted humans wrote the so called holy books, so what instruction from god are you talking about?
Humans have polluted the seas, true, but nature pollutes the sea with parasites and bacteria too. People can get brain eating diseases just by diving in the wrong pool of water. Many children worldwide get parasites growing out of their arms or face just by fishing for food. I see human doctors trying to help these kids, many of them atheist or non-religious. But the Bible god is nowhere to be found. Sounds like laziness to me.
lol at mankind helping.... when one person can amass billions of dollars while thousands of children go hungry you call that helping??? the fact remains that if mankind as a whole wanted to we could stop most of the children in that video from suffering.... but we don't and people like you rather blame god than point the finger at lazy humanity. Humankind is lazy and selfish.
People may die from natural causes but natural disasters produce a positive outcome in that they regulate the systems of nature that allow the earth to be capable of sustaining life. Earth quakes and volcanic eruption relieve the pressure from tectonic places, hurricane cool and warm the seas, natural genetic diseases keep inferior genes from being passed on etc etc etc.
God gave man instruction on how to treat each other so that things like war wouldn't happen... WHEN god said love each other and love god that was the instruction. If we followed it we would only have to worry about natural suffering which is minuscule compared to human manufactured suffering.
and what i told you was that GOD INSPIRED PEOPLE TO write the SCRIPTURES so various men physically wrote down the scripture under the supervision of the almighty GOD. These writers may have attributed the scriptures of multiple bookS to one man but only because god allowed it. FOR EXAMPLE THE EXODUS could have been written by multiple people but since that book is largely focused on moses, succeeding generations just attributed it to moses. But there is nowhere in the torah that says I MOSESE WRITE THIS.
If humankind is so lazy, then the Bible god is even lazier lol, at least humans can be seen building hospitals and sewer systems in nations around the world. This is one of the reasons I stopped being Christian long ago, as Richard Dawkins and others have, a god that is constantly hiding all the time and failing to prove itself over other gods maybe isn't a god at all.
Your excuses for massive suffering existing are simply proving my point about the laziness of the god you believe in, so there's no other efficient way to end life on Earth? Natural parasites and diseases have to be extremely painful to many children worldwide huh? That sounds sadistic and extremely evil to me and I suppose we just have different opinions on it.
And yes I know many different gods have inspired many people throughout the years to write so called holy books. There are thousands of different holy books written by men, but I notice the "gods" haven't written these books themselves. Why can't the Bible god write its own holy book for himself? According to Mohammed, the angel Gabriel updated the Bible. Who am I supposed to trust?
fuck richard dawkins and all these useless academics who produce nothing but dreck and call it writing
God is not hiding you just lack the ability to see the things he does for people some of us have experienced his presence.... i am sorry you cannot perceive his works. I don't care what you believe as far as i am concerned you are a lost cause and i cannot help you because you don't want to be helped even if you could see God it don't think you would want to.
lol @ attributing MASS SUFFERING to god ??? most of the suffering on earth can be directly attributed to human action or inaction and that's no excuse it's just the truth.
YEAH people die, children die from natural causes like parasites but the number of people who die from parasites is minuscule compared to those who die because of human action or inaction.... and by the way cry me another river over these children you claim to care about that are infected with parasites
Most children who get infected with parasites are living in squalor... why are these children living in horrible conditions??? because the people with the money and influence won't ensure that the less fortunate are in proper homes... IF humanity obeyed god then less people would be selfish and we would collectively ensure that the poor are living in at least decent conditions.
MUSLIMS think they are worshiping the god of abraham so rightfully they do fall under the abrahamic religion umbrella but the reasons why islam is bullshit is a whole other thread but to begin with after moses
all prophets of god must have jewish mothers now there is a difference between being a prophet and being a prophet of god but that to is a whole other thread.
God wanted man to physically write it