To those who believe in the power of prayer, does god or the heavens keep a waiting list?

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@zzombie

Mankind is lazy? Mankind IS building shelters and is helping to feed much of the poor. I agree mankind can do a lot more but I don't see the lazy Bible god giving a helping hand. Parasites and natural disasters are still affecting millions around the world, where is the lazy Bible god to help stop these natural disasters and parasites? Did mankind create natural disasters and parasites now? Give me a damn break.

And since when has "god" given man instructions to do anything? Other people have given other people instructions. I don't see any god giving people instructions anywhere, please show me where that's happening at. You already admitted humans wrote the so called holy books, so what instruction from god are you talking about?

Humans have polluted the seas, true, but nature pollutes the sea with parasites and bacteria too. People can get brain eating diseases just by diving in the wrong pool of water. Many children worldwide get parasites growing out of their arms or face just by fishing for food. I see human doctors trying to help these kids, many of them atheist or non-religious. But the Bible god is nowhere to be found. Sounds like laziness to me.
 
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rafnetuk;9266379 said:
Sometimes the only thing that gets you through hard times is praying and believing. Believing there has to be good around the corner. Praying to a higher power. No matter what you believe there is always someone or something better, faster more powerful.

Keep on Believing.

This video WILL inspire and give you strength:


Praying definitely gets many people through hard times, and I'm not against that. I question its effectiveness at times but I'm not against prayer in itself. Before I click on that video, is that some Christian shit?
 
kingblaze84;9267765 said:
@zzombie

Mankind is lazy? Mankind IS building shelters and is helping to feed much of the poor. I agree mankind can do a lot more but I don't see the lazy Bible god giving a helping hand. Parasites and natural disasters are still affecting millions around the world, where is the lazy Bible god to help stop these natural disasters and parasites? Did mankind create natural disasters and parasites now? Give me a damn break.

And since when has "god" given man instructions to do anything? Other people have given other people instructions. I don't see any god giving people instructions anywhere, please show me where that's happening at. You already admitted humans wrote the so called holy books, so what instruction from god are you talking about?

Humans have polluted the seas, true, but nature pollutes the sea with parasites and bacteria too. People can get brain eating diseases just by diving in the wrong pool of water. Many children worldwide get parasites growing out of their arms or face just by fishing for food. I see human doctors trying to help these kids, many of them atheist or non-religious. But the Bible god is nowhere to be found. Sounds like laziness to me.

lol at mankind helping.... when one person can amass billions of dollars while thousands of children go hungry you call that helping??? the fact remains that if mankind as a whole wanted to we could stop most of the children in that video from suffering.... but we don't and people like you rather blame god than point the finger at lazy humanity. Humankind is lazy and selfish.

People may die from natural causes but natural disasters produce a positive outcome in that they regulate the systems of nature that allow the earth to be capable of sustaining life. Earth quakes and volcanic eruption relieve the pressure from tectonic places, hurricane cool and warm the seas, natural genetic diseases keep inferior genes from being passed on etc etc etc.

God gave man instruction on how to treat each other so that things like war wouldn't happen... WHEN god said love each other and love god that was the instruction. If we followed it we would only have to worry about natural suffering which is minuscule compared to human manufactured suffering.

and what i told you was that GOD INSPIRED PEOPLE TO write the SCRIPTURES so various men physically wrote down the scripture under the supervision of the almighty GOD. These writers may have attributed the scriptures of multiple bookS to one man but only because god allowed it. FOR EXAMPLE THE EXODUS could have been written by multiple people but since that book is largely focused on moses, succeeding generations just attributed it to moses. But there is nowhere in the torah that says I MOSESE WRITE THIS.
 
kingblaze84;9267732 said:
zzombie;9264830 said:
kingblaze84;9264655 said:
zzombie;9262003 said:
I am not saying having faith in the god of Abraham = having a great nation.

You godamn right, look at how mighty and amazing the god of Abraham is, he's so active in the Christian and Muslim world. The blessings of the mighty Abrahamic/Bible god are very great indeed


--I'm supposed to be impressed with this? This is the Abrahamic god you boasted about? LOL aight nigga, very impressive.

**Clap clap**


cry me a river already it's not his fault that people are living like that, when he made us the earth was a paradise but we are responsible for it being so fucked up today..... children are starving yet we waste countless millions on iphones and other nonsense yet you want to blame god for those children suffering??? I am 100% sure that behind most of those children that are suffering in that video there is a man made reason for it

war, stupid governmental decisions or just plain human greed

WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT YOUR ARE NOTHING BUT A TROLL AND ANTI-CHRISTAIN BIGOT. I AM TEMPTED to despise you as much as you despise my God but I don't instead I just pity you,


You always want to blame mankind for the problems on Earth but you are blatantly ignoring the natural problems of the world, like parasites and droughts that often make water and food supplies turn bad. I'm not against people believing in "god" but when you boast about a weak ass god like yours, you gotta bring more evidence to the table.

And Earth was never a paradise, where you got that lie from? Earth has always had a brutal and sadistic predator/prey system, and fossils prove there have been parasites and diseases since probably the beginning of time.

I'm not a troll, I just want to know how the fuck you can boast about a god that is as lazy and pathetic as yours. If you would just say the Bible god is not that powerful, I actually would respect that.


The natural problems you list all have good reasons for existing SO while they seem painful from a limited perspective from a wider one i can see the necessity and positivity in them. My GOD is not weak i have seen prayers answered by him he has answered prayers. By what measure can you say that god is lazy??? you don't know when or why god answers prayers You don't know what god is DOING RIGHT NOW. simply because you cannot see the work being done does not mean god is not working

If you would just say that you are an anti-christian bigot i would respect you more
 
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zzombie;9268047 said:
kingblaze84;9267765 said:
@zzombie

Mankind is lazy? Mankind IS building shelters and is helping to feed much of the poor. I agree mankind can do a lot more but I don't see the lazy Bible god giving a helping hand. Parasites and natural disasters are still affecting millions around the world, where is the lazy Bible god to help stop these natural disasters and parasites? Did mankind create natural disasters and parasites now? Give me a damn break.

And since when has "god" given man instructions to do anything? Other people have given other people instructions. I don't see any god giving people instructions anywhere, please show me where that's happening at. You already admitted humans wrote the so called holy books, so what instruction from god are you talking about?

Humans have polluted the seas, true, but nature pollutes the sea with parasites and bacteria too. People can get brain eating diseases just by diving in the wrong pool of water. Many children worldwide get parasites growing out of their arms or face just by fishing for food. I see human doctors trying to help these kids, many of them atheist or non-religious. But the Bible god is nowhere to be found. Sounds like laziness to me.

lol at mankind helping.... when one person can amass billions of dollars while thousands of children go hungry you call that helping??? the fact remains that if mankind as a whole wanted to we could stop most of the children in that video from suffering.... but we don't and people like you rather blame god than point the finger at lazy humanity. Humankind is lazy and selfish.

People may die from natural causes but natural disasters produce a positive outcome in that they regulate the systems of nature that allow the earth to be capable of sustaining life. Earth quakes and volcanic eruption relieve the pressure from tectonic places, hurricane cool and warm the seas, natural genetic diseases keep inferior genes from being passed on etc etc etc.

God gave man instruction on how to treat each other so that things like war wouldn't happen... WHEN god said love each other and love god that was the instruction. If we followed it we would only have to worry about natural suffering which is minuscule compared to human manufactured suffering.

and what i told you was that GOD INSPIRED PEOPLE TO write the SCRIPTURES so various men physically wrote down the scripture under the supervision of the almighty GOD. These writers may have attributed the scriptures of multiple bookS to one man but only because god allowed it. FOR EXAMPLE THE EXODUS could have been written by multiple people but since that book is largely focused on moses, succeeding generations just attributed it to moses. But there is nowhere in the torah that says I MOSESE WRITE THIS.

If humankind is so lazy, then the Bible god is even lazier lol, at least humans can be seen building hospitals and sewer systems in nations around the world. This is one of the reasons I stopped being Christian long ago, as Richard Dawkins and others have, a god that is constantly hiding all the time and failing to prove itself over other gods maybe isn't a god at all.

Your excuses for massive suffering existing are simply proving my point about the laziness of the god you believe in, so there's no other efficient way to end life on Earth? Natural parasites and diseases have to be extremely painful to many children worldwide huh? That sounds sadistic and extremely evil to me and I suppose we just have different opinions on it.

And yes I know many different gods have inspired many people throughout the years to write so called holy books. There are thousands of different holy books written by men, but I notice the "gods" haven't written these books themselves. Why can't the Bible god write its own holy book for himself? According to Mohammed, the angel Gabriel updated the Bible. Who am I supposed to trust?

 
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zzombie;9268063 said:
kingblaze84;9267732 said:
zzombie;9264830 said:
kingblaze84;9264655 said:
zzombie;9262003 said:
I am not saying having faith in the god of Abraham = having a great nation.

You godamn right, look at how mighty and amazing the god of Abraham is, he's so active in the Christian and Muslim world. The blessings of the mighty Abrahamic/Bible god are very great indeed


--I'm supposed to be impressed with this? This is the Abrahamic god you boasted about? LOL aight nigga, very impressive.

**Clap clap**


cry me a river already it's not his fault that people are living like that, when he made us the earth was a paradise but we are responsible for it being so fucked up today..... children are starving yet we waste countless millions on iphones and other nonsense yet you want to blame god for those children suffering??? I am 100% sure that behind most of those children that are suffering in that video there is a man made reason for it

war, stupid governmental decisions or just plain human greed

WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT YOUR ARE NOTHING BUT A TROLL AND ANTI-CHRISTAIN BIGOT. I AM TEMPTED to despise you as much as you despise my God but I don't instead I just pity you,


You always want to blame mankind for the problems on Earth but you are blatantly ignoring the natural problems of the world, like parasites and droughts that often make water and food supplies turn bad. I'm not against people believing in "god" but when you boast about a weak ass god like yours, you gotta bring more evidence to the table.

And Earth was never a paradise, where you got that lie from? Earth has always had a brutal and sadistic predator/prey system, and fossils prove there have been parasites and diseases since probably the beginning of time.

I'm not a troll, I just want to know how the fuck you can boast about a god that is as lazy and pathetic as yours. If you would just say the Bible god is not that powerful, I actually would respect that.


The natural problems you list all have good reasons for existing SO while they seem painful from a limited perspective from a wider one i can see the necessity and positivity in them. My GOD is not weak i have seen prayers answered by him he has answered prayers. By what measure can you say that god is lazy??? you don't know when or why god answers prayers You don't know what god is DOING RIGHT NOW. simply because you cannot see the work being done does not mean god is not working

If you would just say that you are an anti-christian bigot i would respect you more


So parasites that eat a child's face or brain have a good reason for existing? What's the positive of brain eating diseases eating a child's brain as it's alive? Damn, I thought John Wayne Gacy was sadistic but the Bible god according to you makes Jeffrey Dahmer seem like Dora the Explorer!!! Yikes, thanks for scaring me away from your unholy god even more. Too demonic for my taste!

And you're right, I don't know what the thousands of gods that supposedly exist are doing. Maybe one of those gods or spirits is blessing me right now for all I know, I've been having a great summer. Or maybe the gods are dead and high powered aliens are the ones answering prayers these days.
 
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kingblaze84;9270292 said:
zzombie;9268047 said:
kingblaze84;9267765 said:
@zzombie

Mankind is lazy? Mankind IS building shelters and is helping to feed much of the poor. I agree mankind can do a lot more but I don't see the lazy Bible god giving a helping hand. Parasites and natural disasters are still affecting millions around the world, where is the lazy Bible god to help stop these natural disasters and parasites? Did mankind create natural disasters and parasites now? Give me a damn break.

And since when has "god" given man instructions to do anything? Other people have given other people instructions. I don't see any god giving people instructions anywhere, please show me where that's happening at. You already admitted humans wrote the so called holy books, so what instruction from god are you talking about?

Humans have polluted the seas, true, but nature pollutes the sea with parasites and bacteria too. People can get brain eating diseases just by diving in the wrong pool of water. Many children worldwide get parasites growing out of their arms or face just by fishing for food. I see human doctors trying to help these kids, many of them atheist or non-religious. But the Bible god is nowhere to be found. Sounds like laziness to me.

lol at mankind helping.... when one person can amass billions of dollars while thousands of children go hungry you call that helping??? the fact remains that if mankind as a whole wanted to we could stop most of the children in that video from suffering.... but we don't and people like you rather blame god than point the finger at lazy humanity. Humankind is lazy and selfish.

People may die from natural causes but natural disasters produce a positive outcome in that they regulate the systems of nature that allow the earth to be capable of sustaining life. Earth quakes and volcanic eruption relieve the pressure from tectonic places, hurricane cool and warm the seas, natural genetic diseases keep inferior genes from being passed on etc etc etc.

God gave man instruction on how to treat each other so that things like war wouldn't happen... WHEN god said love each other and love god that was the instruction. If we followed it we would only have to worry about natural suffering which is minuscule compared to human manufactured suffering.

and what i told you was that GOD INSPIRED PEOPLE TO write the SCRIPTURES so various men physically wrote down the scripture under the supervision of the almighty GOD. These writers may have attributed the scriptures of multiple bookS to one man but only because god allowed it. FOR EXAMPLE THE EXODUS could have been written by multiple people but since that book is largely focused on moses, succeeding generations just attributed it to moses. But there is nowhere in the torah that says I MOSESE WRITE THIS.

If humankind is so lazy, then the Bible god is even lazier lol, at least humans can be seen building hospitals and sewer systems in nations around the world. This is one of the reasons I stopped being Christian long ago, as Richard Dawkins and others have, a god that is constantly hiding all the time and failing to prove itself over other gods maybe isn't a god at all.

Your excuses for massive suffering existing are simply proving my point about the laziness of the god you believe in, so there's no other efficient way to end life on Earth? Natural parasites and diseases have to be extremely painful to many children worldwide huh? That sounds sadistic and extremely evil to me and I suppose we just have different opinions on it.

And yes I know many different gods have inspired many people throughout the years to write so called holy books. There are thousands of different holy books written by men, but I notice the "gods" haven't written these books themselves. Why can't the Bible god write its own holy book for himself? According to Mohammed, the angel Gabriel updated the Bible. Who am I supposed to trust?

fuck richard dawkins and all these useless academics who produce nothing but dreck and call it writing

God is not hiding you just lack the ability to see the things he does for people some of us have experienced his presence.... i am sorry you cannot perceive his works. I don't care what you believe as far as i am concerned you are a lost cause and i cannot help you because you don't want to be helped even if you could see God it don't think you would want to.

lol @ attributing MASS SUFFERING to god ??? most of the suffering on earth can be directly attributed to human action or inaction and that's no excuse it's just the truth.

YEAH people die, children die from natural causes like parasites but the number of people who die from parasites is minuscule compared to those who die because of human action or inaction.... and by the way cry me another river over these children you claim to care about that are infected with parasites

Most children who get infected with parasites are living in squalor... why are these children living in horrible conditions??? because the people with the money and influence won't ensure that the less fortunate are in proper homes... IF humanity obeyed god then less people would be selfish and we would collectively ensure that the poor are living in at least decent conditions.

MUSLIMS think they are worshiping the god of abraham so rightfully they do fall under the abrahamic religion umbrella but the reasons why islam is bullshit is a whole other thread but to begin with after moses all prophets of god must have jewish mothers now there is a difference between being a prophet and being a prophet of god but that to is a whole other thread.

God wanted man to physically write it
 
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zzombie;9270337 said:
kingblaze84;9270292 said:
zzombie;9268047 said:
kingblaze84;9267765 said:
@zzombie

Mankind is lazy? Mankind IS building shelters and is helping to feed much of the poor. I agree mankind can do a lot more but I don't see the lazy Bible god giving a helping hand. Parasites and natural disasters are still affecting millions around the world, where is the lazy Bible god to help stop these natural disasters and parasites? Did mankind create natural disasters and parasites now? Give me a damn break.

And since when has "god" given man instructions to do anything? Other people have given other people instructions. I don't see any god giving people instructions anywhere, please show me where that's happening at. You already admitted humans wrote the so called holy books, so what instruction from god are you talking about?

Humans have polluted the seas, true, but nature pollutes the sea with parasites and bacteria too. People can get brain eating diseases just by diving in the wrong pool of water. Many children worldwide get parasites growing out of their arms or face just by fishing for food. I see human doctors trying to help these kids, many of them atheist or non-religious. But the Bible god is nowhere to be found. Sounds like laziness to me.

lol at mankind helping.... when one person can amass billions of dollars while thousands of children go hungry you call that helping??? the fact remains that if mankind as a whole wanted to we could stop most of the children in that video from suffering.... but we don't and people like you rather blame god than point the finger at lazy humanity. Humankind is lazy and selfish.

People may die from natural causes but natural disasters produce a positive outcome in that they regulate the systems of nature that allow the earth to be capable of sustaining life. Earth quakes and volcanic eruption relieve the pressure from tectonic places, hurricane cool and warm the seas, natural genetic diseases keep inferior genes from being passed on etc etc etc.

God gave man instruction on how to treat each other so that things like war wouldn't happen... WHEN god said love each other and love god that was the instruction. If we followed it we would only have to worry about natural suffering which is minuscule compared to human manufactured suffering.

and what i told you was that GOD INSPIRED PEOPLE TO write the SCRIPTURES so various men physically wrote down the scripture under the supervision of the almighty GOD. These writers may have attributed the scriptures of multiple bookS to one man but only because god allowed it. FOR EXAMPLE THE EXODUS could have been written by multiple people but since that book is largely focused on moses, succeeding generations just attributed it to moses. But there is nowhere in the torah that says I MOSESE WRITE THIS.

If humankind is so lazy, then the Bible god is even lazier lol, at least humans can be seen building hospitals and sewer systems in nations around the world. This is one of the reasons I stopped being Christian long ago, as Richard Dawkins and others have, a god that is constantly hiding all the time and failing to prove itself over other gods maybe isn't a god at all.

Your excuses for massive suffering existing are simply proving my point about the laziness of the god you believe in, so there's no other efficient way to end life on Earth? Natural parasites and diseases have to be extremely painful to many children worldwide huh? That sounds sadistic and extremely evil to me and I suppose we just have different opinions on it.

And yes I know many different gods have inspired many people throughout the years to write so called holy books. There are thousands of different holy books written by men, but I notice the "gods" haven't written these books themselves. Why can't the Bible god write its own holy book for himself? According to Mohammed, the angel Gabriel updated the Bible. Who am I supposed to trust?

fuck richard dawkins and all these useless academics who produce nothing but dreck and call it writing

God is not hiding you just lack the ability to see the things he does for people some of us have experienced his presence.... i am sorry you cannot perceive his works. I don't care what you believe as far as i am concerned you are a lost cause and i cannot help you because you don't want to be helped even if you could see God it don't think you would want to.

lol @ attributing MASS SUFFERING to god ??? most of the suffering on earth can be directly attributed to human action or inaction and that's no excuse it's just the truth.

YEAH people die, children die from natural causes like parasites but the number of people who die from parasites is minuscule compared to those who die because of human action or inaction.... and by the way cry me another river over these children you claim to care about that are infected with parasites

Most children who get infected with parasites are living in squalor... why are these children living in horrible conditions??? because the people with the money and influence won't ensure that the less fortunate are in proper homes... IF humanity obeyed god then less people would be selfish and we would collectively ensure that the poor are living in at least decent conditions.

MUSLIMS think they are worshiping the god of abraham so rightfully they do fall under the abrahamic religion umbrella but the reasons why islam is bullshit is a whole other thread but to begin with after moses all prophets of god must have jewish mothers now there is a difference between being a prophet and being a prophet of god but that to is a whole other thread.

God wanted man to physically write it

Wait a minute, the Muslims worship the god of Abraham but at the same time Islam is bullshit? Why don't you believe the words of Gabriel, you're defying the messenger of your own god hahaha.....this is the hypocrisy of the Abrahamic god that I cannot stand. One minute the god of Abraham wants Jewish law only, then Jesus changes things and when the Abrahamic god sends another angel, this time you choose to not believe it? The Abrahamic god seems to inspire a lot of confusion and contradictions, it seems more like a joker god whose just fucking with his followers lol.....

As far as your god creating brain eating parasites, it made other things just as deadly and painful, you know, like bacteria and viruses, all that is intentional according to you. You admitting the Bible god made brain eating bacteria is horrifying and simply shows how evil and disgraceful your god is. That's not a god bruh, that's a giant demon. Christians worshipping a demon god kind of makes sense, considering Christian history worldwide.

The more you talk about your demon god, the more I become disgusted at it. How can you pray to something so wicked and evil? Remember, YOU are the one who is admitting the Bible god made these things.
 
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@kingblaze84

YEAH GOD MADE those things and we are lucky he did those things serve a purpose in nature just like all creatures do, DEATH does not bother me as much as it does you because i know that this life no matter how painful is only temporary and that greater things await those who die free from sin

Muslims think they are worshiping my god so islam is part of the 3 religions that descend from Abraham the problem with islam is that In actuality muslims have been deluded by a false prophet.God said there would be frauds and that their messages wouldn't be in line with the spirit of previous scripture and that they would lead many people into folly so Muslims being deluded is no surprise to me and if you studied the bible it wouldn't be a surprise to you

God made an exculsive covenant with the jews it still stands

God made a covenant with Christians that includes everyone so Jesus did not change the law he simply made his law open to more people

I don't care what you are disgusted at your personal feelings about my god is worth less than a pig fart. In your attempts to make a mockery of my god you only show your ignorance YOU REALLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT RELIGION. i AM NOT trying to convince you or convert you I don't care what you believe ALL i do is counter your ignorance so that if someone stumbles across this thread they don't be trapped by your ignorance and stupidity

 
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@kingblaze84

YEAH GOD MADE those things and we are lucky he did those things serve a purpose in nature just like all creatures do, DEATH does not bother me as much as it does you because i know that this life no matter how painful is only temporary and that greater things await those who die free from sin

Muslims think they are worshiping my god so islam is part of the 3 religions that descend from Abraham the problem with islam is that In actuality muslims have been deluded by a false prophet.God said there would be frauds and that their messages wouldn't be in line with the spirit of previous scripture and that they would lead many people into folly so Muslims being deluded is no surprise to me and if you studied the bible it wouldn't be a surprise to you

God made an exculsive covenant with the jews it still stands

God made a covenant with Christians that includes everyone so Jesus did not change the law he simply made his law open to more people

I don't care what you are disgusted at your personal feelings about my god is worth less than a pig fart. In your attempts to make a mockery of my god you only show your ignorance YOU REALLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT RELIGION. i AM NOT trying to convince you or convert you I don't care what you believe ALL i do is counter your ignorance so that if someone stumbles across this thread they don't be trapped by your ignorance and stupidity

LOL, the irony is that many JEWS consider Jesus a false prophet as well, they even voted to have him killed back in the day.

And if you believe all these things, congratulations to you, maybe I'm just hard to impress. I don't really have to make a mockery of your god, reality itself does. The world and reality seem to defy most of what you say about the Bible god, you say it made a covenant with the Jews and yet it left them niggas hanging during the Holocaust lol but aight whatever man. We have different ideas on what action and laziness are. If your god made a covenant with Christians, it has a funny way of showing it, considering how big the Zika virus is in Christian nations now lol.....

And there is nothing stupid about what I'm saying, I'm simply making observations about your beliefs and the reality of the world. It's not adding up. Anyone who is observant of the world will understand what I'm saying. You on the other hand, seem to live in a fantasy land and if that makes you happy, go for it.
 
And of course you couldn't convert me, I remember some Christians in my family praying over me when I stopped being Christian many years ago, praying that I would change my mind. 16 years later, their prayers weren't answered. I wonder why.
 
kingblaze84;9272806 said:
zzombie;9272757 said:
@kingblaze84

YEAH GOD MADE those things and we are lucky he did those things serve a purpose in nature just like all creatures do, DEATH does not bother me as much as it does you because i know that this life no matter how painful is only temporary and that greater things await those who die free from sin

Muslims think they are worshiping my god so islam is part of the 3 religions that descend from Abraham the problem with islam is that In actuality muslims have been deluded by a false prophet.God said there would be frauds and that their messages wouldn't be in line with the spirit of previous scripture and that they would lead many people into folly so Muslims being deluded is no surprise to me and if you studied the bible it wouldn't be a surprise to you

God made an exculsive covenant with the jews it still stands

God made a covenant with Christians that includes everyone so Jesus did not change the law he simply made his law open to more people

I don't care what you are disgusted at your personal feelings about my god is worth less than a pig fart. In your attempts to make a mockery of my god you only show your ignorance YOU REALLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT RELIGION. i AM NOT trying to convince you or convert you I don't care what you believe ALL i do is counter your ignorance so that if someone stumbles across this thread they don't be trapped by your ignorance and stupidity

LOL, the irony is that many JEWS consider Jesus a false prophet as well, they even voted to have him killed back in the day.

And if you believe all these things, congratulations to you, maybe I'm just hard to impress. I don't really have to make a mockery of your god, reality itself does. The world and reality seem to defy most of what you say about the Bible god, you say it made a covenant with the Jews and yet it left them niggas hanging during the Holocaust lol but aight whatever man. We have different ideas on what action and laziness are. If your god made a covenant with Christians, it has a funny way of showing it, considering how big the Zika virus is in Christian nations now lol.....

And there is nothing stupid about what I'm saying, I'm simply making observations about your beliefs and the reality of the world. It's not adding up. Anyone who is observant of the world will understand what I'm saying. You on the other hand, seem to live in a fantasy land and if that makes you happy, go for it.

The jews are still alive and they are more powerful today so God did not leave them hanging the holocaust was instrumental is bringing about the return of the nation of israel so in the long run things worked out. REALITY IS perfectly in line with what i believe me and you just experience reality differently, what i see you cannot see and what i hear you cannot hear.

There are atheist with proper criticisms you however are not one of them. You seemingly have the brain and mental maturity of a 7 year old child AND the arguments you have are straw men. You base your premises on faulty assumptions because you don't know jack shit about christianity so you are not observing anything you are just talking shit about something you have no true interest in really understanding, all your religious threads are TROLL threads. The covenant god has with christians does not promise a painless existence. Sometimes i wish this forum had more knowledge people so that they could see how fucking stupid i make you look and how you embarrass yourself every time you respond to me in a thread like this.
 
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kingblaze84;9272821 said:
And of course you couldn't convert me, I remember some Christians in my family praying over me when I stopped being Christian many years ago, praying that I would change my mind. 16 years later, their prayers weren't answered. I wonder why.

The prayers of another cannot move the hearts of others, If those hearts have already set themselves on a path and are determined to walk it THEY will walk it. God really does not chase people down if you want nothing to do with him he won't force himself on you.

And trust me i am not trying to convert you that's not the role i play
 
zzombie;9272996 said:
kingblaze84;9272806 said:
zzombie;9272757 said:
@kingblaze84

YEAH GOD MADE those things and we are lucky he did those things serve a purpose in nature just like all creatures do, DEATH does not bother me as much as it does you because i know that this life no matter how painful is only temporary and that greater things await those who die free from sin

Muslims think they are worshiping my god so islam is part of the 3 religions that descend from Abraham the problem with islam is that In actuality muslims have been deluded by a false prophet.God said there would be frauds and that their messages wouldn't be in line with the spirit of previous scripture and that they would lead many people into folly so Muslims being deluded is no surprise to me and if you studied the bible it wouldn't be a surprise to you

God made an exculsive covenant with the jews it still stands

God made a covenant with Christians that includes everyone so Jesus did not change the law he simply made his law open to more people

I don't care what you are disgusted at your personal feelings about my god is worth less than a pig fart. In your attempts to make a mockery of my god you only show your ignorance YOU REALLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT RELIGION. i AM NOT trying to convince you or convert you I don't care what you believe ALL i do is counter your ignorance so that if someone stumbles across this thread they don't be trapped by your ignorance and stupidity

LOL, the irony is that many JEWS consider Jesus a false prophet as well, they even voted to have him killed back in the day.

And if you believe all these things, congratulations to you, maybe I'm just hard to impress. I don't really have to make a mockery of your god, reality itself does. The world and reality seem to defy most of what you say about the Bible god, you say it made a covenant with the Jews and yet it left them niggas hanging during the Holocaust lol but aight whatever man. We have different ideas on what action and laziness are. If your god made a covenant with Christians, it has a funny way of showing it, considering how big the Zika virus is in Christian nations now lol.....

And there is nothing stupid about what I'm saying, I'm simply making observations about your beliefs and the reality of the world. It's not adding up. Anyone who is observant of the world will understand what I'm saying. You on the other hand, seem to live in a fantasy land and if that makes you happy, go for it.

The jews are still alive and they are more powerful today so God did not leave them hanging the holocaust was instrumental is bringing about the return of the nation of israel so in the long run things worked out. REALITY IS perfectly in line with what i believe me and you just experience reality differently, what i see you cannot see and what i hear you cannot hear.

There are atheist with proper criticisms you however are not one of them. You seemingly have the brain and mental maturity of a 7 year old child AND the arguments you have are straw men. You base your premises on faulty assumptions because you don't know jack shit about christianity so you are not observing anything you are just talking shit about something you have no true interest in really understanding, all your religious threads are TROLL threads. The covenant god has with christians does not promise a painless existence. Sometimes i wish this forum had more knowledge people so that they could see how fucking stupid i make you look and how you embarrass yourself every time you respond to me in a thread like this.

So the Bible god allowed 6 million Jews to die, and that was the only way the state of Israel could be created? Geez, no wonder so many Jews are atheist, Israelis don't exactly have the most pleasant life either, anxiety and panic attacks in Israel are on the rise there. It's such a tiny country, a country so tiny it has to steal and murder other people to increase its space. Sad and pathetic. The REALITY is that many Jews these days are extremely secular and they are among the most atheistic people on Earth, likely because they see how the so called Abrahamic god has failed to do much for them over and over again. Yeah a bunch of them got money but a bunch of them talk shit about their own god lol, word to Bill Maher and George Soros.

And my points are far from strawmen, you're just upset because you know deep down what I'm saying is true. But I'm not against you believing your strange beliefs, I'm simply trying to understand how the same god you admit made brain eating parasites is the same god that is worth boasting about. The same god that seems to have abandoned a ton of Christian nations worldwide filled with massive chaos, slums, rapes, parasites and other god forsaken problems. I know people who have traveled and it's a pretty crazy world out there.

You're calling this a troll thread and claim to "make me look stupid" and meanwhile, Americans and others are turning more and more away from the backward beliefs of Christianity. Even in many Christian majority nations worldwide, there's a ton of people who don't take the religion seriously. You know, like the crime ridden nations of a ton of majority Christian nations out there, word to South Africa and Mexico's high ass rape and murder rate lol, stop acting like what I'm saying is not true.

You should have never mentioned the Bible god here, you knew damn well what was gonna happen.
 
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kingblaze84;9272821 said:
And of course you couldn't convert me, I remember some Christians in my family praying over me when I stopped being Christian many years ago, praying that I would change my mind. 16 years later, their prayers weren't answered. I wonder why.

The prayers of another cannot move the hearts of others, If those hearts have already set themselves on a path and are determined to walk it THEY will walk it. God really does not chase people down if you want nothing to do with him he won't force himself on you.

And trust me i am not trying to convert you that's not the role i play

Okay, fair enough. But if that's true, then it's probably destiny that me and one billion others plus on Earth are non-religious.

That's cool and everything, but you just made the power of prayer appear much weaker. Many people pray to help change the direction their family or friends are going through, I guess those people are wasting their time.
 
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zzombie;9272997 said:
kingblaze84;9272821 said:
And of course you couldn't convert me, I remember some Christians in my family praying over me when I stopped being Christian many years ago, praying that I would change my mind. 16 years later, their prayers weren't answered. I wonder why.

The prayers of another cannot move the hearts of others, If those hearts have already set themselves on a path and are determined to walk it THEY will walk it. God really does not chase people down if you want nothing to do with him he won't force himself on you.

And trust me i am not trying to convert you that's not the role i play

Okay, fair enough. But if that's true, then it's probably destiny that me and one billion others plus on Earth are non-religious.

That's cool and everything, but you just made the power of prayer appear much weaker. Many people pray to help change the direction their family or friends are going through, I guess those people are wasting their time.

If you think that one billion people on the earth are non-religious ( whatever that means) then you are either on crack or living in a fantasy world. MANY people don't understand what prayer is for, prayer serves as a way to align yourself with the will of god it is not a way for you to manipulate god into doing what you want.
 
kingblaze84;9275129 said:
zzombie;9272996 said:
kingblaze84;9272806 said:
zzombie;9272757 said:
@kingblaze84

YEAH GOD MADE those things and we are lucky he did those things serve a purpose in nature just like all creatures do, DEATH does not bother me as much as it does you because i know that this life no matter how painful is only temporary and that greater things await those who die free from sin

Muslims think they are worshiping my god so islam is part of the 3 religions that descend from Abraham the problem with islam is that In actuality muslims have been deluded by a false prophet.God said there would be frauds and that their messages wouldn't be in line with the spirit of previous scripture and that they would lead many people into folly so Muslims being deluded is no surprise to me and if you studied the bible it wouldn't be a surprise to you

God made an exculsive covenant with the jews it still stands

God made a covenant with Christians that includes everyone so Jesus did not change the law he simply made his law open to more people

I don't care what you are disgusted at your personal feelings about my god is worth less than a pig fart. In your attempts to make a mockery of my god you only show your ignorance YOU REALLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT RELIGION. i AM NOT trying to convince you or convert you I don't care what you believe ALL i do is counter your ignorance so that if someone stumbles across this thread they don't be trapped by your ignorance and stupidity

LOL, the irony is that many JEWS consider Jesus a false prophet as well, they even voted to have him killed back in the day.

And if you believe all these things, congratulations to you, maybe I'm just hard to impress. I don't really have to make a mockery of your god, reality itself does. The world and reality seem to defy most of what you say about the Bible god, you say it made a covenant with the Jews and yet it left them niggas hanging during the Holocaust lol but aight whatever man. We have different ideas on what action and laziness are. If your god made a covenant with Christians, it has a funny way of showing it, considering how big the Zika virus is in Christian nations now lol.....

And there is nothing stupid about what I'm saying, I'm simply making observations about your beliefs and the reality of the world. It's not adding up. Anyone who is observant of the world will understand what I'm saying. You on the other hand, seem to live in a fantasy land and if that makes you happy, go for it.

The jews are still alive and they are more powerful today so God did not leave them hanging the holocaust was instrumental is bringing about the return of the nation of israel so in the long run things worked out. REALITY IS perfectly in line with what i believe me and you just experience reality differently, what i see you cannot see and what i hear you cannot hear.

There are atheist with proper criticisms you however are not one of them. You seemingly have the brain and mental maturity of a 7 year old child AND the arguments you have are straw men. You base your premises on faulty assumptions because you don't know jack shit about christianity so you are not observing anything you are just talking shit about something you have no true interest in really understanding, all your religious threads are TROLL threads. The covenant god has with christians does not promise a painless existence. Sometimes i wish this forum had more knowledge people so that they could see how fucking stupid i make you look and how you embarrass yourself every time you respond to me in a thread like this.

So the Bible god allowed 6 million Jews to die, and that was the only way the state of Israel could be created? Geez, no wonder so many Jews are atheist, Israelis don't exactly have the most pleasant life either, anxiety and panic attacks in Israel are on the rise there. It's such a tiny country, a country so tiny it has to steal and murder other people to increase its space. Sad and pathetic. The REALITY is that many Jews these days are extremely secular and they are among the most atheistic people on Earth, likely because they see how the so called Abrahamic god has failed to do much for them over and over again. Yeah a bunch of them got money but a bunch of them talk shit about their own god lol, word to Bill Maher and George Soros.

And my points are far from strawmen, you're just upset because you know deep down what I'm saying is true. But I'm not against you believing your strange beliefs, I'm simply trying to understand how the same god you admit made brain eating parasites is the same god that is worth boasting about. The same god that seems to have abandoned a ton of Christian nations worldwide filled with massive chaos, slums, rapes, parasites and other god forsaken problems. I know people who have traveled and it's a pretty crazy world out there.

You're calling this a troll thread and claim to "make me look stupid" and meanwhile, Americans and others are turning more and more away from the backward beliefs of Christianity. Even in many Christian majority nations worldwide, there's a ton of people who don't take the religion seriously. You know, like the crime ridden nations of a ton of majority Christian nations out there, word to South Africa and Mexico's high ass rape and murder rate lol, stop acting like what I'm saying is not true.



You should have never mentioned the Bible god here, you knew damn well what was gonna happen.

ISRAEL IS basically a 1st world nation and it is not stealing land the land belongs to the jews by right of birth and by right of victory. The arabs lost war after war LOSING wars of aggression has consequences... like losing land. There are secular jews but they are still jews and there have always been jews that have gone astray.

and bill maher is not a fucking jew you idiot. Your points are straw men and you seem to love logical fallacies as exemplified by the bold, you make assumptions and statements about christianity that are based on a mischaracterization of the religion/

WHO told you that christian nations should be paradises??? jesus himself was nailed to a cross yet you think Christians would live in total comfort??? lol you really are stupid. AND I ALWAYS know what is going to happen i know what you are going to type before you type it because i have heard it from you before... You show yourself to be more and more stupid and unknowledgeable every day
 
zzombie;9275164 said:
kingblaze84;9275148 said:
zzombie;9272997 said:
kingblaze84;9272821 said:
And of course you couldn't convert me, I remember some Christians in my family praying over me when I stopped being Christian many years ago, praying that I would change my mind. 16 years later, their prayers weren't answered. I wonder why.

The prayers of another cannot move the hearts of others, If those hearts have already set themselves on a path and are determined to walk it THEY will walk it. God really does not chase people down if you want nothing to do with him he won't force himself on you.

And trust me i am not trying to convert you that's not the role i play

Okay, fair enough. But if that's true, then it's probably destiny that me and one billion others plus on Earth are non-religious.

That's cool and everything, but you just made the power of prayer appear much weaker. Many people pray to help change the direction their family or friends are going through, I guess those people are wasting their time.

If you think that one billion people on the earth are non-religious ( whatever that means) then you are either on crack or living in a fantasy world. MANY people don't understand what prayer is for, prayer serves as a way to align yourself with the will of god it is not a way for you to manipulate god into doing what you want.

More then one billion people worldwide consider themselves non-religious or have no religious affiliation dum dum, read some magazines and journals. Many non-religious are spiritual, but more then a billion are not affiliated with any religion, stop sounding like a fucking retard.
 
@zzombie

LOL look at you name calling me now, I can see the desperation and sadness in your posts now. I name called your demon god, true, but I'm not the one who has created brain eating parasites you fucking idiot. But keep up your name calling LOL, I'm laughing my ass off seeing you cry like a little bitch because your answers to my comments and questions are so pathetic. You would have been better off leaving this thread alone, that's how pathetic your posts are becoming now.

Israel is still a nation filled with misery and anxiety and panic attacks, talk to Israelis like I have, they say it's a nation where many take anxiety pills because of the constant fear they have of attacks from Palestinians. And no matter what you say about Israel, most around the world agree, especially in the United Nations, that Israel is an apartheid state and likely stealing land because they want to accommodate their growing Jewish population. Israel is a tiny nation and it's stealing land to accommodate growing and overpopulated Israeli cities. Many Israelis complain about the very high cost of living and how things are not great there. That sounds like a bullshit ass covenant hahaha

And Bill Maher has Jewish ancestry you stupid clown, did you smoke PCP and inject heroin before you made your post? You must be high off PCP right now dum dum
http://www.isjewish.com/bill_maher/

Is Bill Maher Jewish?

Well, to make a long story short, Bill Maher is Jewish!

Since Bill Maher's mother is Jewish, and in Judaism one's religion is based on one's mother's religion, then that makes him also Jewish. His father is not Jewish.



--What do you have to say now you big dummy? Go learn some more about the world before you post any more here, you're making yourself seem more stupid and retarded then you need to. Bill Maher is a Jew and even he talks mad shit about the Abrahamic god. So does George Soros and a ton of other famous Jews.
 
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Maybe you should stop posting in this thread Zombie boy. You're gonna give yourself a brain aneurysm posting here. I don't think it's worth it, you seem very angry now. Take a few days off from posting here, I'm getting worried about your mental health. You seem unstable.
 

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