The Wire (Revisted)

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Just finished Season 3 again, and I still never figured out why Avon never went to the co-op meets. It was always Prop Joe talking to Stringer then Stringer talking to Avon.

Then he didn't realize Stringer was right until after he got killed and police was outside the safe house. That nigga didn't really wanna war with Marlo after he sat and thought about it. But like Slim Charles said, "Once you in a war you in it. Even if its built on a lie, you fight on that lie." Speaking of, he was an underrated character.

I really would like to see how Avon was able to take over the towers and get to the position he was in.

Um I'm pretty sure Avon was on parole and inserting yourself in a major criminal conspiracy is not the best way to spend your time as a parolee.... 2. Avon didn't give a fuck bout no co op

 

[twentyfivelighters]

Lol at this scene


How many of y'all just left your Xbox on all day and picked up right where you left off without saving? Did your copy of Halo 2 have a Halo 2 logo on it every time you played?

HBO could never get videogames right...


This was 10x worse, lol.

 

[a_wack_poster]

Just finished Season 3 again, and I still never figured out why Avon never went to the co-op meets. It was always Prop Joe talking to Stringer then Stringer talking to Avon.

Then he didn't realize Stringer was right until after he got killed and police was outside the safe house. That nigga didn't really wanna war with Marlo after he sat and thought about it. But like Slim Charles said, "Once you in a war you in it. Even if its built on a lie, you fight on that lie." Speaking of, he was an underrated character.

I really would like to see how Avon was able to take over the towers and get to the position he was in.

Um I'm pretty sure Avon was on parole and inserting yourself in a major criminal conspiracy is not the best way to spend your time as a parolee.... 2. Avon didn't give a fuck bout no co op

Well if that nigga didnt wanna be in a major criminal conspiracy as a parolee, he shouldn't have been in a house filled with everything short of a tank. It just seemed like he wanted to do shit his way, but the game changed in them couple of years he was in jail.

I mean he aint have to give a fuck about the co-op, but the fact was prop joe had the connect and wanted to bring him in if he left his old corners to Marlo. Nigga was too worried about his name/rep/fear of looking weak to everybody and shit got out of hand and landed him in jail for a good lil while. The game wasn't about territory, it was about product, and Avon didn't really notice it until it was too late.

 

[Beta]

Lol at this scene


How many of y'all just left your Xbox on all day and picked up right where you left off without saving? Did your copy of Halo 2 have a Halo 2 logo on it every time you played?

HBO could never get videogames right...


This was 10x worse, lol.

lolololololllololololololololololololol @ both vids but that mario kart shit is the WOAT

 

[The Lonious Monk]

what was said again to have niggas sayin mike got his booty hole touched again? nh

Rewatch the episode when the dad comes back, how Michael reacts, the conversation he has and then how Chris reacts when he beats that nigga to death. Think of all their other murders. Clean kills...this shit was clearly personal and pissed him off to a different level. As for the kids being younger versions of older characters they're not 100% clones but it's clear from how their story ends on the show it's a look into how the older characters were drawn into the lives they led. There's a reason they show Dookie going off with the money to buy heroin (Bubbles), Michael robbing people (Omar), Randy going from a happy kid to a cold hearted person who cares only about himself (Marlo), and Namond being the one who "made it"...he's what DeAngelo could have been had he not been forced to sell drugs by his family's name.

You reaching with some of those comparisons. There is nothing that suggests Marlo's path was anything like Randy's, and Marlo certainly isn't the only cold hearted person in the show. DeAngelo and Namond are nothing alike at all.

"Namond's fate parallels that of D'Angelo Barksdale, in that both have domineering mothers who force their sons into the drug game. Namond, however, avoids D'Angelo's end by being adopted by Colvin."

Taken from the Wikipedia page about Namond's character so take it as you will, but to say they're nothing alike is flat out wrong. There's definitely parallels between Namond and D'Angelo

No one is saying that these characters don't have similarities. But you got cats in here claiming that certain characters are younger copies of others. You can't say Namond and D are the same just because they both had domineering mothers. Hell, their mothers didn't even push them in the same way. D's mother wanted him in the game because it was the family business and his birthright. Namond's mothers was more concerned with keeping the drug money coming into the household. D's mother was hard on him, but she actually loved him. Namond's mother just saw him as the replacement paycheck when WeeBay got locked up.

 

[blackrain]

what was said again to have niggas sayin mike got his booty hole touched again? nh

Rewatch the episode when the dad comes back, how Michael reacts, the conversation he has and then how Chris reacts when he beats that nigga to death. Think of all their other murders. Clean kills...this shit was clearly personal and pissed him off to a different level. As for the kids being younger versions of older characters they're not 100% clones but it's clear from how their story ends on the show it's a look into how the older characters were drawn into the lives they led. There's a reason they show Dookie going off with the money to buy heroin (Bubbles), Michael robbing people (Omar), Randy going from a happy kid to a cold hearted person who cares only about himself (Marlo), and Namond being the one who "made it"...he's what DeAngelo could have been had he not been forced to sell drugs by his family's name.

You reaching with some of those comparisons. There is nothing that suggests Marlo's path was anything like Randy's, and Marlo certainly isn't the only cold hearted person in the show. DeAngelo and Namond are nothing alike at all.

"Namond's fate parallels that of D'Angelo Barksdale, in that both have domineering mothers who force their sons into the drug game. Namond, however, avoids D'Angelo's end by being adopted by Colvin."

Taken from the Wikipedia page about Namond's character so take it as you will, but to say they're nothing alike is flat out wrong. There's definitely parallels between Namond and D'Angelo

No one is saying that these characters don't have similarities. But you got cats in here claiming that certain characters are younger copies of others. You can't say Namond and D are the same just because they both had domineering mothers. Hell, their mothers didn't even push them in the same way. D's mother wanted him in the game because it was the family business and his birthright. Namond's mothers was more concerned with keeping the drug money coming into the household. D's mother was hard on him, but she actually loved him. Namond's mother just saw him as the replacement paycheck when WeeBay got locked up.

I never said they were exact copies...just that it's a glimpse into how one goes from a fun loving kid bullshitting around with their friends (the beginning of season 4) to their lives, except Namond, all being turned to shit by season 5 and you can see even in that short time frame how little incidents can set your life on a different path. Show how someone who seems to be a cool/regular guy in D'Angelo gets caught up selling drugs...how a dude with natural business acumen can end up selling drugs/stuck in the hood by showing Randy's natural talent for business by running his candy shit in school. Little things like that give hints towards characters...not a full on biography but they're there

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I never said they were exact copies...just that it's a glimpse into how one goes from a fun loving kid bullshitting around with their friends (the beginning of season 4) to their lives, except Namond, all being turned to shit by season 5 and you can see even in that short time frame how little incidents can set your life on a different path. Show how someone who seems to be a cool/regular guy in D'Angelo gets caught up selling drugs...how a dude with natural business acumen can end up selling drugs/stuck in the hood by showing Randy's natural talent for business by running his candy shit in school. Little things like that give hints towards characters...not a full on biography but they're there

I got no problem with and agree with everything you just said. I'm just saying that people are stretching the connections between the older characters and the kids past what is supported and was likely intended.

 

[S2J]

I cant even read this thread. Yall r disrespecting the show w/ some of this horse shyt lol

At this point its like Jay z verses. They're good on their own, but nggas who reallly dont get it start over analyzing and reaching

-Yes, Namond was a gump. Obviously. No discussion needed.

-Deangelo was a gump as well. On 2 fronts. His character of course,but even him as an actor on that show he was out of place. He's actually a theatre actor among street actors and actual street people. He stuck out like a sore thumb, and the casting never chose that poorly again after season 1. I always wondered if David Simon was that brilliant that he purposely cast that actor for that role as fake gangster

-Finally, the beauty of the show is nothing was forced. So every kid character does not have a direct fuking parallel lol stop trying to make Randy Marlo, or Kennard Omar, etc.

He gave usthe easy ones: Mikey bein Omar and Dukie bein Bubbles. just leave it at that please.

 

[S2J]

When u get a chance go back to season 1, an episode toward the end. There's a scene where deangelo is at his crib gettin ready to go out, pickin his outfit. Yea,i know that show like the back of my hand lol

He was a gump

 

[S2J]

HOWEVER,DeAngelo did bust his gun. We just never saw it.

He lied about killin the girl, but the thing that started it all---the whole entire Wire---was season 1 epsiode 1 at DeAngelo's trial for shooting (cnt remember if he killed him) a dude in the lobby.

Avon came to him like 'u got scared and pulled ya gun now we gotta cover this up etc...'

When he beat the case Mcnlty went to Phalen and the rest is history

 

[The Lonious Monk]

When u get a chance go back to season 1, an episode toward the end. There's a scene where deangelo is at his crib gettin ready to go out, pickin his outfit. Yea,i know that show like the back of my hand lol

He was a gump

I'm confused. You calling the dude a gump because he set out the clothes he wanted to wear?

 

[S2J]

Go watch the scene. He was a lame.

 

[S2J]

Was trying to find the scene and low n behold, theres a analytical breakdown of that scene. The show was fukin deep man.

...He stands with his towel around his waist and engages in what must be agonizing deliberations over what to wear. It is a funny scene that reveals D’Angelo’s excess. He has more money than he knows what to do with, and puts all of that money into clothes. At the same time, his clothing obsession shows a level of insecurity and obsession with image. He is not going anywhere special on this day. In fact, he will spend it, as always, with people like Wallace, who, as we saw in the episode’s opening, wakes up in the clothes he will wear.

And yet D’Angelo looks at his two closets with the intense scrutiny of Omar stalking a corner he wants to take down. D’Angelo nixes one outfit and starts again from scratch, cutting tags off of unworn clothes, matching shirts to pants, checking how everything looks in the mirror, and rifling through boxes of Timberlands. Shardene’s comment suggests that this trait is feminine in nature, but there is something even deeper going on. It is psychological. It shows that D’Angelo is obsessed with conveying a particular image to the outer world, with looking good in the eyes of others. That level of obsession with the external also suggests his deeper desire to cover up the disquiet churning just beneath the surface.

http://www.thewireblog.net/season-1/1-6-the-wire/dangelo-gets-dressed/

And thats exactly how i interpreted it when i saw it.

 

[SuperSoaker]

Talking about over analyzing then saying Simon is a genius for purposely casting a theater actor for a street character lolololol

Stringer and McNulty were British actors loll

 

[white715]

Season 2 is underrated

Brother Mouzone

The Greek

The Sobotkas

Cheese

Them showing how drugs and other illegal contraband get into the country and the kinds of organizations that deal in that world. That could be a series in itself, atleast imo.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Was trying to find the scene and low n behold, theres a analytical breakdown of that scene. The show was fukin deep man.

...He stands with his towel around his waist and engages in what must be agonizing deliberations over what to wear. It is a funny scene that reveals D’Angelo’s excess. He has more money than he knows what to do with, and puts all of that money into clothes. At the same time, his clothing obsession shows a level of insecurity and obsession with image. He is not going anywhere special on this day. In fact, he will spend it, as always, with people like Wallace, who, as we saw in the episode’s opening, wakes up in the clothes he will wear.

And yet D’Angelo looks at his two closets with the intense scrutiny of Omar stalking a corner he wants to take down. D’Angelo nixes one outfit and starts again from scratch, cutting tags off of unworn clothes, matching shirts to pants, checking how everything looks in the mirror, and rifling through boxes of Timberlands. Shardene’s comment suggests that this trait is feminine in nature, but there is something even deeper going on. It is psychological. It shows that D’Angelo is obsessed with conveying a particular image to the outer world, with looking good in the eyes of others. That level of obsession with the external also suggests his deeper desire to cover up the disquiet churning just beneath the surface.

http://www.thewireblog.net/season-1/1-6-the-wire/dangelo-gets-dressed/

And thats exactly how i interpreted it when i saw it.

Dog, that mentality applies to 95% of niggas out there. If D is a gump for that, then most black males are gumps.

 

[Vader_F_Kennedy]

Talking about over analyzing then saying Simon is a genius for purposely casting a theater actor for a street character lolololol

Stringer and McNulty were British actors loll

Shit a lot of British actors been eatin lately shit I didn't even know string was british until long after the wire was over and done wit its a lot of british actors on board ealk empire as well and on walking dead if I'm not mistaken I believe the dude who plays rick is British ..

 

[S2J]

Talking about over analyzing then saying Simon is a genius for purposely casting a theater actor for a street character lolololol

Stringer and McNulty were British actors loll

Tha fuk are you laughin for? Lol If you cant see the difference in casting in the dude who plays Deangelo vs the dudes that play Bird, Stink, WeeBey, SNOOP (fresh off the street), Poot, etc then I have nothing to discuss with you.

Im talking about the STREET guys. The soldiers. 99% are unknown actors and/or dudes off the street. Larry Gilliard Jr was a known and accomplished actor and it shows when you see him trying to play a gangster.

Simon could have been a genious for that, or it was by mistake, but either way it worked b/c Gilliard stuck out casting-wise just like his character stuck out in the streets. You must not remember how Bodie, Bey, etc looked at him. Like he was a bytch.

 

[S2J]

Was trying to find the scene and low n behold, theres a analytical breakdown of that scene. The show was fukin deep man.

...He stands with his towel around his waist and engages in what must be agonizing deliberations over what to wear. It is a funny scene that reveals D’Angelo’s excess. He has more money than he knows what to do with, and puts all of that money into clothes. At the same time, his clothing obsession shows a level of insecurity and obsession with image. He is not going anywhere special on this day. In fact, he will spend it, as always, with people like Wallace, who, as we saw in the episode’s opening, wakes up in the clothes he will wear.

And yet D’Angelo looks at his two closets with the intense scrutiny of Omar stalking a corner he wants to take down. D’Angelo nixes one outfit and starts again from scratch, cutting tags off of unworn clothes, matching shirts to pants, checking how everything looks in the mirror, and rifling through boxes of Timberlands. Shardene’s comment suggests that this trait is feminine in nature, but there is something even deeper going on. It is psychological. It shows that D’Angelo is obsessed with conveying a particular image to the outer world, with looking good in the eyes of others. That level of obsession with the external also suggests his deeper desire to cover up the disquiet churning just beneath the surface.

http://www.thewireblog.net/season-1/1-6-the-wire/dangelo-gets-dressed/

And thats exactly how i interpreted it when i saw it.

Dog, that mentality applies to 95% of niggas out there. If D is a gump for that, then most black males are gumps.

Did you even read what I posted? They explained it in psychological terms, i explained it in lay terms, and u still dont get it.

This ngga dressin up to run a corner...while Omar stalk his prey, while Wallace in a vacant w/ kids, while Avon goin to the mattresses when he need to, etc, etc, etc. They never showed anyone other street player's apt except Stringer. (And when they showed his it was also to send us a message!)They showed you that scene for a reason and it went over your head.

Also, you need to watch the scene. I can tell you dont remember it. It was the way he did it.

 

[S2J]

guess yall dont remember Deangelo almost partnerin up with weak ass Orlando

"we gon get some ends for us"

Orlando talked to him like thy was 2 gay lovers n shyt. 2 weak ass nggas teamin up.

Geez, yall are disrespecting this show. D was a gump. Lol