The Wire (Revisted)

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Wee Bey and Bodie are not street niggas but accomplished actors in their own rights

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Was trying to find the scene and low n behold, theres a analytical breakdown of that scene. The show was fukin deep man.

...He stands with his towel around his waist and engages in what must be agonizing deliberations over what to wear. It is a funny scene that reveals D’Angelo’s excess. He has more money than he knows what to do with, and puts all of that money into clothes. At the same time, his clothing obsession shows a level of insecurity and obsession with image. He is not going anywhere special on this day. In fact, he will spend it, as always, with people like Wallace, who, as we saw in the episode’s opening, wakes up in the clothes he will wear.

And yet D’Angelo looks at his two closets with the intense scrutiny of Omar stalking a corner he wants to take down. D’Angelo nixes one outfit and starts again from scratch, cutting tags off of unworn clothes, matching shirts to pants, checking how everything looks in the mirror, and rifling through boxes of Timberlands. Shardene’s comment suggests that this trait is feminine in nature, but there is something even deeper going on. It is psychological. It shows that D’Angelo is obsessed with conveying a particular image to the outer world, with looking good in the eyes of others. That level of obsession with the external also suggests his deeper desire to cover up the disquiet churning just beneath the surface.

http://www.thewireblog.net/season-1/1-6-the-wire/dangelo-gets-dressed/

And thats exactly how i interpreted it when i saw it.

Dog, that mentality applies to 95% of niggas out there. If D is a gump for that, then most black males are gumps.

Did you even read what I posted? They explained it in psychological terms, i explained it in lay terms, and u still dont get it.

This ngga dressin up to run a corner...while Omar stalk his prey, while Wallace in a vacant w/ kids, while Avon goin to the mattresses when he need to, etc, etc, etc. They never showed anyone other street player's apt except Stringer. (And when they showed his it was also to send us a message!)They showed you that scene for a reason and it went over your head.

Also, you need to watch the scene. I can tell you dont remember it. It was the way he did it.

Nigga you don't get it.

You're not saying the same thing as them at all. They are saying that D'Angelo has certain insecurities, and his obsession over finding the right outfit just to go out and sit on a stoop is a symptom of that. That's the message they are sending and it didn't go over anyone's head. You're basically just calling the dude a lame and trying to say that him putting that much effort into picking out an oufit is proof. That's not putting anything in lay terms. That's just making an idiotic simplification of the dynamics that the writers were trying to convey.

My point is that there are a lot of black males that put damn near the same amount of effort into picking out outfits just to do mundane shit. Especially nowadays. The shit is not uncommon. Is it a sign of insecurity? Probably, and I can believe that a lot of these dudes from similar backgrounds have the same insecurities. Does that make them all lame? Well if you're claiming that it makes D lame, then yeah, you're basically claiming that a large percentage of black males (especially black celebrities who essentially do the exact same thing as was being discussed in relation to that scene) are lame too.

 

[S2J]

arguin just to argue. If you cant tell the difference between Hassan Johnson's acting and Larry Gilliard, kill yourself.

Hassan Johnson (WeeBey) has played the same got samn role before and since thew Wire

In 2 Deep, Brooklyn's Finest, etc

Stop playin wit me man. Or maybe yall just cant see it, how much Larry Gilliard sticks out.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

What are you even talking about? No one is arguing with you that D's character wasn't supposed to be taken in the same light as someone like WeeBey. That was the whole point of D's character, to give a different perspective outside of the hardened criminals and the powerless grunts.

 

[S2J]

Was trying to find the scene and low n behold, theres a analytical breakdown of that scene. The show was fukin deep man.

...He stands with his towel around his waist and engages in what must be agonizing deliberations over what to wear. It is a funny scene that reveals D’Angelo’s excess. He has more money than he knows what to do with, and puts all of that money into clothes. At the same time, his clothing obsession shows a level of insecurity and obsession with image. He is not going anywhere special on this day. In fact, he will spend it, as always, with people like Wallace, who, as we saw in the episode’s opening, wakes up in the clothes he will wear.

And yet D’Angelo looks at his two closets with the intense scrutiny of Omar stalking a corner he wants to take down. D’Angelo nixes one outfit and starts again from scratch, cutting tags off of unworn clothes, matching shirts to pants, checking how everything looks in the mirror, and rifling through boxes of Timberlands. Shardene’s comment suggests that this trait is feminine in nature, but there is something even deeper going on. It is psychological. It shows that D’Angelo is obsessed with conveying a particular image to the outer world, with looking good in the eyes of others. That level of obsession with the external also suggests his deeper desire to cover up the disquiet churning just beneath the surface.

http://www.thewireblog.net/season-1/1-6-the-wire/dangelo-gets-dressed/

And thats exactly how i interpreted it when i saw it.

Dog, that mentality applies to 95% of niggas out there. If D is a gump for that, then most black males are gumps.

Did you even read what I posted? They explained it in psychological terms, i explained it in lay terms, and u still dont get it.

This ngga dressin up to run a corner...while Omar stalk his prey, while Wallace in a vacant w/ kids, while Avon goin to the mattresses when he need to, etc, etc, etc. They never showed anyone other street player's apt except Stringer. (And when they showed his it was also to send us a message!)They showed you that scene for a reason and it went over your head.

Also, you need to watch the scene. I can tell you dont remember it. It was the way he did it.

Nigga you don't get it.

You're not saying the same thing as them at all. They are saying that D'Angelo has certain insecurities, and his obsession over finding the right outfit just to go out and sit on a stoop is a symptom of that. That's the message they are sending and it didn't go over anyone's head. You're basically just calling the dude a lame and trying to say that him putting that much effort into picking out an oufit is proof. That's not putting anything in lay terms. That's just making an idiotic simplification of the dynamics that the writers were trying to convey.

My point is that there are a lot of black males that put damn near the same amount of effort into picking out outfits just to do mundane shit. Especially nowadays. The shit is not uncommon. Is it a sign of insecurity? Probably, and I can believe that a lot of these dudes from similar backgrounds have the same insecurities. Does that make them all lame? Well if you're claiming that it makes D lame, then yeah, you're basically claiming that a large percentage of black males (especially black celebrities who essentially do the exact same thing as was being discussed in relation to that scene) are lame too.

You clearly dont remember the scene.

I'm tired of talking "theory" with you when you dont even know wtf im talkin about. Watch the damn scene. I cant explain nouance or subltety to you in words, especially when you havent seen it.

Watch the damn scene and stop tryin to make it more complicated than it is.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I know exactly what scene you're talking about. And I'm telling you that I know for a fact that lots of dudes do that same shit. Hell, you ever seen the episode of Cribs or shows like that where niggas go in their closets and talk about how long it takes them to get their clothes set up. You want to call the dude lame and say the scene was supportive of that statement? Fine, I'm not even arguing with you about that. I'm just pointing out that if you believe that D is a lame or gump or whatever because of that, you're making the same statement about a lot of black dudes out there who essentially do the same shit and have the same hangups. There is nothing complicated about that.

 

[S2J]

Also the timing smh

Around the same time Poot and Bodie bout to kill they own mans...Avon gettin shot at by Omar...Bey and Little man shoot a fukin cop. The whole show and the streets is reaching crazy tension...

They show D agonizing over what to wear for the day.

You're a fuking idiot if you cant see what they layed out for you to take from that scene.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Also the timing smh

Around the same time Poot and Bodie bout to kill they own mans...Avon gettin shot at by Omar...Bey and Little man shoot a fukin cop. The whole show and the streets is reaching crazy tension...

They show D agonizing over what to wear for the day.

You're a fuking idiot if you cant see what they layed out for you to take from that scene.

Nigga you don't even know what you're arguing anymore.

Once again, nobody is saying that the show wasn't making the point that D wasn't built for that life. Again, that's the whole fucking point of his character in the narrative. You're not revealing any hidden truth there. The difference is the show is trying to show us what can happen to people who have no desire to be in that life but are thrust in it nonetheless. All of D's struggles, insecurities, and problems come from the fact that he feels obligated to be a part of the drug game and fulfill his role in that life even though in truth he wants not part of it and hates everything about it. You on the other hand just look at his character and say "Oh he's a gump."

And it's funny that you keep on bringing up all the subtleties and fine points that the show gives us, and then turn around an ignore all that complexity to make a stupidly simplistic assessment of the character.

 

[S2J]

Also the timing smh

Around the same time Poot and Bodie bout to kill they own mans...Avon gettin shot at by Omar...Bey and Little man shoot a fukin cop. The whole show and the streets is reaching crazy tension...

They show D agonizing over what to wear for the day.

You're a fuking idiot if you cant see what they layed out for you to take from that scene.

Nigga you don't even know what you're arguing anymore.

Once again, nobody is saying that the show wasn't making the point that D wasn't built for that life. Again, that's the whole fucking point of his character in the narrative. You're not revealing any hidden truth there. The difference is the show is trying to show us what can happen to people who have no desire to be in that life but are thrust in it nonetheless. All of D's struggles, insecurities, and problems come from the fact that he feels obligated to be a part of the drug game and fulfill his role in that life even though in truth he wants not part of it and hates everything about it. You on the other hand just look at his character and say "Oh he's a gump."

And it's funny that you keep on bringing up all the subtleties and fine points that the show gives us, and then turn around an ignore all that complexity to make a stupidly simplistic assessment of the character.

Oh, i see. Me plainly calling him a 'gump' is whats throwing you off. Dont insult my intelligence. You can tell from the numerous examples i've given that i 'get' wtf was goin on,. So dont play dumb. I overstand his internal struggle, concious, battles with himslef, he took 1 for the team eventually, etc, etc, etc.

However, I'm not going to wax poetic about how D was a Shakespearean tragic character more than what he was. I could, but I'm not. The show was far bigger than him for me to do that.

You can dress it up as much as you want, but from a street pespective, He was a gump.

Writing apologies in the precinct

Provided a shoulder to lean on for Orlando

Cryin when he thought Bey was gon kill him

Bein looked at as a chump by a 15 yr old Bodie

Lyin on his gun

Smh cmon ngga, why are you doing this.

Key words: from a street perspective.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Also the timing smh

Around the same time Poot and Bodie bout to kill they own mans...Avon gettin shot at by Omar...Bey and Little man shoot a fukin cop. The whole show and the streets is reaching crazy tension...

They show D agonizing over what to wear for the day.

You're a fuking idiot if you cant see what they layed out for you to take from that scene.

Nigga you don't even know what you're arguing anymore.

Once again, nobody is saying that the show wasn't making the point that D wasn't built for that life. Again, that's the whole fucking point of his character in the narrative. You're not revealing any hidden truth there. The difference is the show is trying to show us what can happen to people who have no desire to be in that life but are thrust in it nonetheless. All of D's struggles, insecurities, and problems come from the fact that he feels obligated to be a part of the drug game and fulfill his role in that life even though in truth he wants not part of it and hates everything about it. You on the other hand just look at his character and say "Oh he's a gump."

And it's funny that you keep on bringing up all the subtleties and fine points that the show gives us, and then turn around an ignore all that complexity to make a stupidly simplistic assessment of the character.

Oh, i see. Me plainly calling him a 'gump' is whats throwing you off. Dont insult my intelligence. You can tell from the numerous examples i've given that i 'get' wtf was goin on,. So dont play dumb. I overstand his internal struggle, concious, battles with himslef, he took 1 for the team eventually, etc, etc, etc.

However, I'm not going to wax poetic about how D was a Shakespearean tragic character more than what he was. I could, but I'm not. The show was far bigger than him for me to do that.

You can dress it up as much as you want, but from a street pespective, He was a gump.

Writing apologies in the precinct

Provided a shoulder to lean on for Orlando

Cryin when he thought Bey was gon kill him

Bein looked at as a chump by a 15 yr old Bodie

Lyin on his gun

Smh cmon ngga, why are you doing this.

Key words: from a street perspective.

Well we agree on the underlined, so it's all good.

 

[Vader_F_Kennedy]

Shouts out to bet for takin 20plus murders all for a pit beef sandwich and a coke

 

[Vader_F_Kennedy]

*BEY*

 

[infamous114]

 

[Matt-]

can't be the only one who though that detective wiggins (dude who went undercover and sold to Orlando) looks like caron butler

 

[S2J]

Bodie was that ngga. Too bad they kinda softened his character thru the years. After he murked Walace i remember the start of season 2 him and Poot was on some grown man shyt. Nggas wasnt smilin no more, all serious Lol Tht shyt was hilarious.

Then when Marlo came aroudn they had him minimized.

At first i hated Marlo's character b/c of that. They kinda just dropped him in outta nowhere takin shyt over. I see why they did it but i still felt a kinda way that in the entire show it's Marlo, who's character was nowhere as deep or endearing nh as Avon, Stringer, etc, was the one who was untouchable and ultimately Won

 

[Matt-]

http://imgur.com/a/WMqKn/all

The Wire/NBA Look-a-likes

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Bodie was that ngga. Too bad they kinda softened his character thru the years. After he murked Walace i remember the start of season 2 him and Poot was on some grown man shyt. Nggas wasnt smilin no more, all serious Lol Tht shyt was hilarious.

Then when Marlo came aroudn they had him minimized.

At first i hated Marlo's character b/c of that. They kinda just dropped him in outta nowhere takin shyt over. I see why they did it but i still felt a kinda way that in the entire show it's Marlo, who's character was nowhere as deep or endearing nh as Avon, Stringer, etc, was the one who was untouchable and ultimately Won

Softened him? How so?

 

[Matt-]

bad pictures nh, he looks more like him on the show. fuck yall tho

 

[Matt-]

the funniest moment to me for some reason is when cutty is looking for grace and he goes over to her sisters house and they are talking out on the stoop. He asks about her and she goes off into some deep story about how she's all uppity and cutty cuts her off and is like, "cool but where can i find her" and she just yells out "DON'T BE INTERRUPTING ME MOTHAFUCKA!!!" if anyone can find that clip or upload it, Me and all my alias' will give you goats

sorry, got it wrong, she said "rushing me!!" but finally found the episode and made a bootleg clip of it with poor volume

http://youtu.be/mI8GCkjpxrk

 

[The Lonious Monk]

http://imgur.com/a/WMqKn/all

The Wire/NBA Look-a-likes

Man, Lester and Bill Russell do look just alike.