The Wire (Revisted)

[R.D.]

daneglo was not a gump nigga like naymond smh yall reaching.D put in work and stood tall for his fam. nay couldn't even check lil kernard

soon yall going to be saying d was like bubbles cuz they had a drug problem

Lmaooo Foh

Deangelo was a moist faggot

Namond might have been a lil soft but he had heart, it just wasn't into the streets

DAngelo layed the murder game down, Namond got chumped by Kenard, Michael, the terrace boys, baby bookings and etc...

Terrace boys ain't touch Namond

He didn't want the drugs cause he realized he wasn't built for the streets and was man enough to walk away...so Kennard didn't do shit but give Namond a way out

lol @ Deangelo laying shit down...the nigga had a dissatisfied customer and couldn't handle it so he reacted like a trigger happy soft ass cop under pressure

 

[The Lonious Monk]

daneglo was not a gump nigga like naymond smh yall reaching.D put in work and stood tall for his fam. nay couldn't even check lil kernard

soon yall going to be saying d was like bubbles cuz they had a drug problem

Lmaooo Foh

Deangelo was a moist faggot

Namond might have been a lil soft but he had heart, it just wasn't into the streets

DAngelo layed the murder game down, Namond got chumped by Kenard, Michael, the terrace boys, baby bookings and etc...

Terrace boys ain't touch Namond

He didn't want the drugs cause he realized he wasn't built for the streets and was man enough to walk away...so Kennard didn't do shit but give Namond a way out

lol @ Deangelo laying shit down...the nigga had a dissatisfied customer and couldn't handle it so he reacted like a trigger happy soft ass cop under pressure

You serious? Deangelo was actually in the game. It may not have fit him, but he could actually handle it. Namond couldn't even handle some basic corner boy grunt work.

Let's be real, if Namond got set up the way Deangelo did, do you really think he would have taken that time and lasted as long in jail as he did?

 

[R.D.]

daneglo was not a gump nigga like naymond smh yall reaching.D put in work and stood tall for his fam. nay couldn't even check lil kernard

soon yall going to be saying d was like bubbles cuz they had a drug problem

Lmaooo Foh

Deangelo was a moist faggot

Namond might have been a lil soft but he had heart, it just wasn't into the streets

DAngelo layed the murder game down, Namond got chumped by Kenard, Michael, the terrace boys, baby bookings and etc...

Terrace boys ain't touch Namond

He didn't want the drugs cause he realized he wasn't built for the streets and was man enough to walk away...so Kennard didn't do shit but give Namond a way out

lol @ Deangelo laying shit down...the nigga had a dissatisfied customer and couldn't handle it so he reacted like a trigger happy soft ass cop under pressure

You serious? Deangelo was actually in the game. It may not have fit him, but he could actually handle it. Namond couldn't even handle some basic corner boy grunt work.

Let's be real, if Namond got set up the way Deangelo did, do you really think he would have taken that time and lasted as long in jail as he did?

To my point, which is why Namond walked away from the game. He knew just like De knew he wasn't built for the game but he walked away it with his mother pressuring him to go the other way. Keep in mind that we comparing a 14 year old boy to a grown man

 

[SuperSoaker]

D also had respect. nay was a spoiled ass lil kid, he would constantly over compensate his life and put down others.

d was more analytical of the game. he didn't leave the game cuz he wasn't built for it, he left because he saw that the game was rigged and chose not to play.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Do you know who Ds grandfather is?

 

[Sage Wonder]

And are you really suggesting that Randy is the new Marlo because he had to protect his name and the real Marlo had a thing about his name. That's nowhere near the same thing. Randy's issue with his name was a matter of survival. Marlo's was a matter of pride.

Matter of pride? No. Matter of feeling the need to be feared. Randy's final scene shows a transformation of character that gives a glimpse of a Marlo-esque nature. Not to mention the gambling and candy scenes that both had are a subtle connection within itself.

He didn't want the drugs cause he realized he wasn't built for the streets and was man enough to walk away...so Kennard didn't do shit but give Namond a way out

Man enough to walk away? Stop it.... clearly he was just scared, he wasn't about that life. Not that there's anything wrong with that, he ended up going down a productive path in his life... but to put it in any other terms than he was soft is just wrong. There was nothing about "being a man" in his early wanna-be personna. He was a fraudulent character, point blank. Bunny Colvin saved him.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

To my point, which is why Namond walked away from the game. He knew just like De knew he wasn't built for the game but he walked away it with his mother pressuring him to go the other way. Keep in mind that we comparing a 14 year old boy to a grown man

You're giving Namond too much credit. He didn't just walk away on his own strength. He actually tried to be a D-boy and failed horribly. Even then he didn't have the strength and courage to walk away. He had help. D wasn't in that position. He was raised and ingrained in the game to the point that he saw no other way. He didn't have someone that came in and saved it from him. And the point remains that even though he didn't like that lifestyle, he could at least exist in it reasonably well. Namond couldn't even do that. He was a failure even at the most basic job.

And are you really suggesting that Randy is the new Marlo because he had to protect his name and the real Marlo had a thing about his name. That's nowhere near the same thing. Randy's issue with his name was a matter of survival. Marlo's was a matter of pride.

Matter of pride? No. Matter of feeling the need to be feared. Randy's final scene shows a transformation of character that gives a glimpse of a Marlo-esque nature. Not to mention the gambling and candy scenes that both had are a subtle connection within itself.

It's still a matter of pride. His blow up in the jail cell wasn't simply because he though people wouldn't fear him anymore. His blow up in the jail was because he though people was shitting on his name and his name is important to him. That's pride. And yes those scenes you mentioned show that Randy is becoming hardened, but that's not the direct connection to Marlo that you're making it out to be. Half the cast in the Wire are hardened criminals.

 

[Heavy In The Game]

 

[R.D.]

My niggas, y'all going have to rewatch

Deangelo was a fuck up

Do I have to bring up this nigga writing a letter to an imaginary family of the janitor who witnessed his bitchass kill the dude

lol @ him having respect when them niggas paid him no mind sans Wallace

Let's not forget this pussy lying and taking credit for a murder Bey did

Shieeeeeetttttttt

 

[The Lonious Monk]

My niggas, y'all going have to rewatch

Deangelo was a fuck up

Do I have to bring up this nigga writing a letter to an imaginary family of the janitor who witnessed his bitchass kill the dude

lol @ him having respect when them niggas paid him no mind sans Wallace

Let's not forget this pussy lying and taking credit for a murder Bey did

Shieeeeeetttttttt

Nobody's saying he was the next Avon. We're just saying he's a hell of a lot better than Namond.

 

[Vader_F_Kennedy]

D and naymond was both bitch made case closed

 

[ocelot]

Randy is not Marlo...

Marlo is a sociopath

Randy is just another nigga who had an unlucky roll... He will be Bird at best

 

[evoljeanyes]

Y'all niggas can argue randy...I gave my interpretation...but if niggas is in here saying DeAngelo is more thorough than Naymond...they don't remember deangelo...deangelo was a bird ass nigga...he took credit for bey's murder...

he was letting boddie's young ass punk him

let his mama talk him into eating 20 years just to save her ass

was getting flipped by the cops every time he went in

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Y'all niggas can argue randy...I gave my interpretation...but if niggas is in here saying DeAngelo is more thorough than Naymond...they don't remember deangelo...deangelo was a bird ass nigga...he took credit for bey's murder...

he was letting boddie's young ass punk him

let his mama talk him into eating 20 years just to save her ass

was getting flipped by the cops every time he went in

Naymond didn't even make it far enough into the game for any of that type of shit to happen to him. He got bitched up from the get go at the ground level. How can you not see the difference between that and the shit that befell D? Again, a big part of D's problem is that he was put into a position of power due to his family connections. He didn't even want to be in the drug game yet he was running a crew. Namond was a grunt on a corner and couldn't even handle that.

 

[evoljeanyes]

I get that...I mean you're talking semantics to make your point...Naymond is in 8th grade during the show...he aint about to be running the whole pit...but they gave this bum a corner...lol...Boddie had just gotten a corner in season 2...thats an enormous jump...they would have had to keep blessing him because he is Bey's boy..especially if Avon was home lol...its very similar..yeah it didn't go the exact same way, but you can see the precursor to certain stories through the street kids...thats all I am saying...shit is you want to make it like that Naymond told snoop he was in the class with his sister so don't do shit to his boy mike...they were both bitch made...yes D got further in the game obviously.

 

[Sage Wonder]

And are you really suggesting that Randy is the new Marlo because he had to protect his name and the real Marlo had a thing about his name. That's nowhere near the same thing. Randy's issue with his name was a matter of survival. Marlo's was a matter of pride.

Matter of pride? No. Matter of feeling the need to be feared. Randy's final scene shows a transformation of character that gives a glimpse of a Marlo-esque nature. Not to mention the gambling and candy scenes that both had are a subtle connection within itself.

It's still a matter of pride. His blow up in the jail cell wasn't simply because he though people wouldn't fear him anymore. His blow up in the jail was because he though people was shitting on his name and his name is important to him. That's pride. And yes those scenes you mentioned show that Randy is becoming hardened, but that's not the direct connection to Marlo that you're making it out to be. Half the cast in the Wire are hardened criminals.

Nah it's not direct, none of the metaphors in the show are direct. That's why it's a metaphor. That's why one of the big phrases that highlight this entire series is "read between the lines."

Yeah when you make a living out of making people fear you, of course that's going to be important to you and something you do not take lightly. It may start out as a necessity of survival, as in the case of Randy, and then evolve into a means of motivation and power, as in the case of Marlo. You have to keep in mind the factor of character development. I think the connection is there to be made.

My niggas, y'all going have to rewatch

Deangelo was a fuck up

Do I have to bring up this nigga writing a letter to an imaginary family of the janitor who witnessed his bitchass kill the dude

lol @ him having respect when them niggas paid him no mind sans Wallace

Let's not forget this pussy lying and taking credit for a murder Bey did

Shieeeeeetttttttt

Cosign the first part, idk about the second though. Let's not forget that Bey was taking the rap for ALL the murders cuz he knew he was in for life no matter what. He admitted to Byrd's murder & Bunk knew right then and there he was lying because they had hard undeniable evidence on Byrd. But I do think it's a possibility he was lying because D was never known as muscle, he said he had some "creep to him" but that was never him.

 

[Sage Wonder]

Randy is not Marlo...

Marlo is a sociopath

Randy is just another nigga who had an unlucky roll... He will be Bird at best

So what, Marlo was born that way? How you know he didn't come from a similar path? You don't see Marlo until he is already on his way to becoming king. You watch Randy as a little kid still going to school. Obviously there is a huge gap between the two in which much character development occurs. I think that is one of the points of Colvin's school experiment, "they start early"...... obviously Randy is not Marlo because Randy is Randy and his experiences are his own, but if the cycles were to continue I would bank on Randy being the most similar to Marlo in coming years.

BTW this Deangelo vs Naymond discussion needs to go. Both were soft. Difference is, D had the street smarts but had too warm of a heart in a cold blooded game. Naymond was just bitch made.

 

[blackrain]

what was said again to have niggas sayin mike got his booty hole touched again? nh

Rewatch the episode when the dad comes back, how Michael reacts, the conversation he has and then how Chris reacts when he beats that nigga to death. Think of all their other murders. Clean kills...this shit was clearly personal and pissed him off to a different level. As for the kids being younger versions of older characters they're not 100% clones but it's clear from how their story ends on the show it's a look into how the older characters were drawn into the lives they led. There's a reason they show Dookie going off with the money to buy heroin (Bubbles), Michael robbing people (Omar), Randy going from a happy kid to a cold hearted person who cares only about himself (Marlo), and Namond being the one who "made it"...he's what DeAngelo could have been had he not been forced to sell drugs by his family's name.

You reaching with some of those comparisons. There is nothing that suggests Marlo's path was anything like Randy's, and Marlo certainly isn't the only cold hearted person in the show. DeAngelo and Namond are nothing alike at all.

"Namond's fate parallels that of D'Angelo Barksdale, in that both have domineering mothers who force their sons into the drug game. Namond, however, avoids D'Angelo's end by being adopted by Colvin."

Taken from the Wikipedia page about Namond's character so take it as you will, but to say they're nothing alike is flat out wrong. There's definitely parallels between Namond and D'Angelo

 

[Vader_F_Kennedy]

I still die every time I see they scene where kenard punks namond..shit is funny af

 

[a_wack_poster]

Just finished Season 3 again, and I still never figured out why Avon never went to the co-op meets. It was always Prop Joe talking to Stringer then Stringer talking to Avon.

Then he didn't realize Stringer was right until after he got killed and police was outside the safe house. That nigga didn't really wanna war with Marlo after he sat and thought about it. But like Slim Charles said, "Once you in a war you in it. Even if its built on a lie, you fight on that lie." Speaking of, he was an underrated character.

I really would like to see how Avon was able to take over the towers and get to the position he was in.