The rising counterculture of being an adult without kids.

[bkkbully]

Y'all are brainwashed or y'all just can't see the bigger picture.

Ironic, considering that you can't see beyond your own point of view on this topic. Understand that legacy, your parents wants, and life for that matter have no objective meaning. That is to say that those things are only as valuable as an individual believes them to be.

Furthermore, both of those sides of this discussion have selfish motivators. If your desire to have children stems from you wanting to continue your legacy, satisfy your parents, or by the sense of fulfillment that comes from raising a child, then how are you any less selfish than the person who chooses not to have children because they enjoy having fun? Remember, perspective is everything.

"You have your way, and I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist."

Miss me with that perspective shit. The logic used in your first 2 paragraphs can be used to "rebut" any stance in any argument.

At the end of the day, y'all don't see the bigger picture of the whole thing. We'll see how all you guys feel when you're 50+ yrs. old with no seeds trying to live the "single" life or should I say lonely life.

Why it gotta be so extreme though? I know lots of 45+ year old happily married couples who don't have and never wanted kids. So just because someone doesn't want kids they still can't be happily married? They have to be lonely and living the single life? My nigga, life isn't so black and white. Get you some colors...

this is one of those cases...where you choose to believe they are telling the truth because it fits what you want it to fit.

they may have fought and been fighting for years over it an have now just excepted that one of them is just plain selfish and the other has no balls to step away.

Bruh all couples fight and have disagreements. That doesn't mean at the end of the day you can't talk it out like an adult and still have a healthy relationship. Ain't got shit to do with kids

 

[bkkbully]

For the record I'm 25 with no kids. But I do want a family of about 7. Big huge family. But I would never push someone else to have kids. If you do or you don't, up to you. Life's too short for all that judgement. Its 2013 man.

 

[afro thunder]

Didn't read the whole thread but from the pages I read, it is safe to say some of you are just flat out weird and have warped views.

 

[Rock_Well]

*Want kids but Haven't met the right lady to inject post*

 

[StoneColdMikey]

I ain't tryna to have kids until I'm around Kat's age. No diss.

 

[blackrain]

I don't think everyone should have kids but if you don't want any EVER then you are a evolutionary dead end

All living creatures want to pass their genes on IF YOU don't then it's probable that something is wrong with you.

i think this is what people are trying to say.

most of the reasoning behind it is for bullshit. you will stop your lineage because you want to party and fukk bitches and save money?

who will your saved money go to once you die? some random nigga that aint related to you? so someone else living nice off you hard work and is thankful you didnt have kids.

Why does it keep coming back to this for you? If those are the only two reasons you can think of for someone to not have kids, you being intentionally closed minded to further your own viewpoint

 

[2stepz_ahead]

I don't think everyone should have kids but if you don't want any EVER then you are a evolutionary dead end

All living creatures want to pass their genes on IF YOU don't then it's probable that something is wrong with you.

i think this is what people are trying to say.

most of the reasoning behind it is for bullshit. you will stop your lineage because you want to party and fukk bitches and save money?

who will your saved money go to once you die? some random nigga that aint related to you? so someone else living nice off you hard work and is thankful you didnt have kids.

Why does it keep coming back to this for you? If those are the only two reasons you can think of for someone to not have kids, you being intentionally closed minded to further your own viewpoint

well first its three reasons and second that because thats what alot of people are basing their reasoning on. I am very open minded. but i just dont agree with shit sometimes.

 

[stilldat_dude]

I'm sure this been said in the thread but I'm not reading 15 pages but why is it the niggas wit kids the ones that are always mad about this topic (that was rhetorical). How the fuck you gonna tell me I need kids to be complete/happy that has to be some of the dumbest shit I have ever heard in my fucking life.

Hell most people I know with kids have flat out told me they envy niggas like me and to NOT have them little crumb snatchers lol. Stop trying to push that bs on niggas who can see the "joy" of having kids and would rather pass. You wanna have 10 kids knock yourself the fuck out but please stop telling me this bullshit about how i'm gonna be lonely and bored, etc...you niggas either have a shitty life, no money or just lame if you believe that dumb shit.

This is coming from a nigga who is raising his 1 1/2 year old godson and I love the nigga to death and will probably end up adopting him not because I need to be complete and happy but because of his sorry ass parents. Trust me if they had their shit together I would much rather they take him and let me just be the godfather. You niggas crazy with some of the dumb shit i been reading in here.

Nah in this thread, it's the complete opposite. The dudes who slipped up and had kids with the wrong bitch are now trying to persuade others to not have kids because their life is fucked up.

The other ones are selfish clowns who can't see past their wallet and/or the mirror .. and the remaining posters are DL fags trying to justify why they're 45 without kids.

... I'm in my early 20s, no kids, and I'm damn near rich to most of y'all after seeing that salary thread, and I'm loving my life right now. I just think that everyone should plan to have a family and raise kids.

Find the right woman, get your money right, and keep it moving. If not for yourself, then for your family's lineage, for your parent's sake, for your girl's sake etc.

ehhh if thats your viewpoint on it cool hope it works for you. It looks like people's stance on this is really based on the quality of their life. Lets face it some niggas got wack ass lives and they probably NEED kids to survive mentally and sometimes financially (if they in the system). Can't speak for anyone else with my viewpoint but I have a pretty damn good life and I have a lot of things that occupy my time now and in the future but I can totally understand why a nigga with a "lesser" life would feel the opposite. Hell my godson has been derailing me but I love the nigga and will do right by him (not his fault he got shitty parents), so to each his own but I know boredom, loneliness, etc is the last fucking thing I will be worried about in life with or without him.

well respected post. nice point of view.

Preciate it....now I will tell you why i dont personally want kids. To me this world is some bullshit and along with most inhabitants in it. I'd feel bad honestly for bringing a child into this fucked up world around these fucked up people. I'm around the youth all fucking day pretty much for the past 10 years and aint no fucking way I want my child around these motherfuckers NO FUCKING WAY (hell parents aint too much better these days themselves). If the world was "good" in my eyes hell I'd have 10 fucking kids and raise 10 great kids (i have no shadow of a doubt I would be a wonderful father which has been proven with my godson), but not in this shithole. Now do I like my "freedom"...motherfucking right but I'd gladly give the shit up for a child if I thought it was beneficial...i just don't

 

[T. Sanford]

I seen this post on facebook........one of the main reasons why aint finna create no sequels of me in this lifetime

"My baby daddy just lost his job 2 months ago, now he cant pay me my child support. So every time he come to see our twin sons (who is 3) I charge him $1.00 per minute. Yep, that's right I sure do! And What?? This nigga gotta pay me to see his sons. If he want them over night he gotta pay $75. He still be coming to see our boys, but not as often. I feel like he needs to be punished for loosin his job and I want my money regardless. He call his self showin up at my door crying tears cause he miss his sons, talkin about he puttin in apps everday and please let him see his babies. Im like "oh well nigga, you either gonna pay up or miss out". I don't give a F**K about his relationship with my sons. My boys don't need no broke ass daddy. My new boyfriend will teach my babies to be real men, not some cryin ass punk. My question is this:: How do long should I wait before I report his ass for non-payment of child support. I need my damn loot!"

No Kids peeps stay winning

 

[taeboo]

@taeboo Meaning... I would be a donkey to create another human being without a proverbial blueprint in place for his or her future...

@HyenaKilla You can make all the plans in the world, but you can't predict what life hands you. I'm not saying people should just have kids all willy nilly, but thinking having a kid(even an unplanned one) is some devastating event and the rest of your life is going to shitty because of it is something I don't agree with.

 

[blackrain]

I'm sure this been said in the thread but I'm not reading 15 pages but why is it the niggas wit kids the ones that are always mad about this topic (that was rhetorical). How the fuck you gonna tell me I need kids to be complete/happy that has to be some of the dumbest shit I have ever heard in my fucking life.

Hell most people I know with kids have flat out told me they envy niggas like me and to NOT have them little crumb snatchers lol. Stop trying to push that bs on niggas who can see the "joy" of having kids and would rather pass. You wanna have 10 kids knock yourself the fuck out but please stop telling me this bullshit about how i'm gonna be lonely and bored, etc...you niggas either have a shitty life, no money or just lame if you believe that dumb shit.

This is coming from a nigga who is raising his 1 1/2 year old godson and I love the nigga to death and will probably end up adopting him not because I need to be complete and happy but because of his sorry ass parents. Trust me if they had their shit together I would much rather they take him and let me just be the godfather. You niggas crazy with some of the dumb shit i been reading in here.

Nah in this thread, it's the complete opposite. The dudes who slipped up and had kids with the wrong bitch are now trying to persuade others to not have kids because their life is fucked up.

The other ones are selfish clowns who can't see past their wallet and/or the mirror .. and the remaining posters are DL fags trying to justify why they're 45 without kids.

... I'm in my early 20s, no kids, and I'm damn near rich to most of y'all after seeing that salary thread, and I'm loving my life right now. I just think that everyone should plan to have a family and raise kids.

Find the right woman, get your money right, and keep it moving. If not for yourself, then for your family's lineage, for your parent's sake, for your girl's sake etc.

ehhh if thats your viewpoint on it cool hope it works for you. It looks like people's stance on this is really based on the quality of their life. Lets face it some niggas got wack ass lives and they probably NEED kids to survive mentally and sometimes financially (if they in the system). Can't speak for anyone else with my viewpoint but I have a pretty damn good life and I have a lot of things that occupy my time now and in the future but I can totally understand why a nigga with a "lesser" life would feel the opposite. Hell my godson has been derailing me but I love the nigga and will do right by him (not his fault he got shitty parents), so to each his own but I know boredom, loneliness, etc is the last fucking thing I will be worried about in life with or without him.

well respected post. nice point of view.

Preciate it....now I will tell you why i dont personally want kids. To me this world is some bullshit and along with most inhabitants in it. I'd feel bad honestly for bringing a child into this fucked up world around these fucked up people. I'm around the youth all fucking day pretty much for the past 10 years and aint no fucking way I want my child around these motherfuckers NO FUCKING WAY (hell parents aint too much better these days themselves). If the world was "good" in my eyes hell I'd have 10 fucking kids and raise 10 great kids (i have no shadow of a doubt I would be a wonderful father which has been proven with my godson), but not in this shithole. Now do I like my "freedom"...motherfucking right but I'd gladly give the shit up for a child if I thought it was beneficial...i just don't

If you're a good parent that you're kid will most likely turn out good too. As the parent you have the majority of influence over your child's life. Yes there's other factors but you're the main influence

 

[LUClEN]

Better than the trend of being an adult without an education

 

[Wild Self]

I seen this post on facebook........one of the main reasons why aint finna create no sequels of me in this lifetime

"My baby daddy just lost his job 2 months ago, now he cant pay me my child support. So every time he come to see our twin sons (who is 3) I charge him $1.00 per minute. Yep, that's right I sure do! And What?? This nigga gotta pay me to see his sons. If he want them over night he gotta pay $75. He still be coming to see our boys, but not as often. I feel like he needs to be punished for loosin his job and I want my money regardless. He call his self showin up at my door crying tears cause he miss his sons, talkin about he puttin in apps everday and please let him see his babies. Im like "oh well nigga, you either gonna pay up or miss out". I don't give a F**K about his relationship with my sons. My boys don't need no broke ass daddy. My new boyfriend will teach my babies to be real men, not some cryin ass punk. My question is this:: How do long should I wait before I report his ass for non-payment of child support. I need my damn loot!"

No Kids peeps stay winning

I would have snitched on her to child services and tell her "punkass" baby daddy to go to court for full custody over that post.

 

[BEAM]

Unplanned / Unprepared parenthood is always a terrible idea.

You should have your scholastic / financial goals knocked out well before you even think about having a kid.

Broke, unsuccessful parents trying to defend broke, unsuccessful parenthood need to have a seat.

 

[T. Sanford]

I seen this post on facebook........one of the main reasons why aint finna create no sequels of me in this lifetime

"My baby daddy just lost his job 2 months ago, now he cant pay me my child support. So every time he come to see our twin sons (who is 3) I charge him $1.00 per minute. Yep, that's right I sure do! And What?? This nigga gotta pay me to see his sons. If he want them over night he gotta pay $75. He still be coming to see our boys, but not as often. I feel like he needs to be punished for loosin his job and I want my money regardless. He call his self showin up at my door crying tears cause he miss his sons, talkin about he puttin in apps everday and please let him see his babies. Im like "oh well nigga, you either gonna pay up or miss out". I don't give a F**K about his relationship with my sons. My boys don't need no broke ass daddy. My new boyfriend will teach my babies to be real men, not some cryin ass punk. My question is this:: How do long should I wait before I report his ass for non-payment of child support. I need my damn loot!"

No Kids peeps stay winning

I would have snitched on her to child services and tell her "punkass" baby daddy to go to court for full custody over that post.

I wish I knew he made that post. This woman quoted that post from a user in a group & shared it on her page

 

[LUClEN]

Child support should not be for the parent

 

[BEAM]

Child support should not be for the parent

Agreed. Those funds shouldn't come in the form of money at all, but rather as a very way to purchase clothes (certain sizes, brands, etc..) and food ONLY.

 

[Like Water]

I've been with my wife for seven years, married for two, (all of which were good years) and we have no kids. She does want one son, but I don't want any children. We're not living check to check, we're currently in a pretty stable and happy situation, I'm 29 and she's 28, and we both know that we would be pretty good parents.

I, however, can't stand people. I also can't stand other people's kids. Your kid is not cute. He's a snot-nose brat that smells like old kool-aid. I'm also not fond of the direction our society is heading. It's really tough to talk to me about raising a child who is going to be morally upstanding, intellectual, and an all around asset to his/her community when you're not being the type of parent that would encourage said growth.

And I'm not isolating this lack of parenting to just the black community. Nah. This shit has infiltrated every demographic in our society. It's disheartening as fuck. It seems no one is being the type of parents mine were. It's so bad that when I see actual parenting taking place, I'll usually commend the people for it. Smh.

Plus, we've already been through 1 miscarriage, and the psychological and physical damages that it inflicted upon us I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

So if I have it my way, we'll continue to live just the way we are. And maybe somewhere down the line we'll add a blue heeler to the house or sumin. Kids? I'm good...

 

[Copper]

Personally Ive got to have my money right before i have a child...also my employment has to meet certain requirements....these days more kids are birthed to unsuspecting unprepared motherfuckers out of wedlock than not...and being a single educated person with no kids its disappointing to see

 

[Mister B.]

I'm bumping this thread once again, cause I have a question for the MARRIED couples:

What are you guys thoughts on birth control? Do you practice it often, or is it one of those things now that you're married you just let the chips fall where they may?