The Official Jay-Z's "Tidal" Streaming Service Thread (New Stand Up Comedy Series Added)

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Karl.;7989122 said:
CJ;7984869 said:
Karl.;7984753 said:
Are they really charging twice as much as spotify?

There's a $9.99 & $19.99 option

So it's double the price to get FLAC quality?

I touched on this earlier. All these lossless rips (WAV, FLAC and I believe OGG, iTunes has their own lossless ripper as well if memory serves me right) are are literally the uncompressed (or mostly uncompressed) direct rip of a CD. Assuming you're listening to an album that's total storage tops out at 700 MB, the corresponding rip will total 700 MB or somewhere close to that. Then we have the lossy formats, the most commonly used being mp3 and m4a (MPEG 4 Audio), both of which can be ripped at variable bitrates (all iTunes releases are VBR rips) to, to the closest extent, match the audio of the product that it ripped without losing too much unneed information. Or some might say fuck it and rip at a constant bitrate of 320. I understand that there are audiophiles out there, but again, what is the point of not only paying more for audio that's difference is largely unnoticeable, but also possibly maxing out your bandwith earlier with less content (assuming one's service is limited aka most that's sole internet connection is via a phone company).

Let's say an album ripped by iTunes collectively tops out at 150 MB whereas a lossless rip of the same album tops at the 80 min/700 MB mark (upwards of 4.6 times larger), economically what's the point? I mean, if one has the money to blow then more power to em but whatever. This is waaaaay more than I wanted to contribute to this stupid ass thread.

Also, someone mentioned earlier that this is HD audio. That IS NOT the case. This shyt is SD, standard definition. PERIOD! If you buy into that shyt otherwise your ass has been duped.
 
Hov droppin off his cousin in Africa to search for new talent. #TidalFacts

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chiyosuke;7993183 said:
Karl.;7989122 said:
CJ;7984869 said:
Karl.;7984753 said:
Are they really charging twice as much as spotify?

There's a $9.99 & $19.99 option

So it's double the price to get FLAC quality?

I touched on this earlier. All these lossless rips (WAV, FLAC and I believe OGG, iTunes has their own lossless ripper as well if memory serves me right) are are literally the uncompressed (or mostly uncompressed) direct rip of a CD. Assuming you're listening to an album that's total storage tops out at 700 MB, the corresponding rip will total 700 MB or somewhere close to that. Then we have the lossy formats, the most commonly used being mp3 and m4a (MPEG 4 Audio), both of which can be ripped at variable bitrates (all iTunes releases are VBR rips) to, to the closest extent, match the audio of the product that it ripped without losing too much unneed information. Or some might say fuck it and rip at a constant bitrate of 320. I understand that there are audiophiles out there, but again, what is the point of not only paying more for audio that's difference is largely unnoticeable, but also possibly maxing out your bandwith earlier with less content (assuming one's service is limited aka most that's sole internet connection is via a phone company).

Let's say an album ripped by iTunes collectively tops out at 150 MB whereas a lossless rip of the same album tops at the 80 min/700 MB mark (upwards of 4.6 times larger), economically what's the point? I mean, if one has the money to blow then more power to em but whatever. This is waaaaay more than I wanted to contribute to this stupid ass thread.

Also, someone mentioned earlier that this is HD audio. That IS NOT the case. This shyt is SD, standard definition. PERIOD! If you buy into that shyt otherwise your ass has been duped.

That's not accurate. Lossless is a compressed file but it does not loose the important data. It decompresses upon playback like a mp3. The file size is much smaller say a 700mb cd would be 500mb or less depending on the compression algorithm. Not all rips are the same either. You can get a terrible rip if not done right which is why files directly form the studio are the highest quality (compression straight to file instead of lowering the quality further by a ripping).. A Wav is uncompressed and is a direct rip. You can also get a higher quality rip (24bits) from an LP. Also, flac can contain multiple channels so you can also get a 5.1 mix.
 
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Jabu_Rule;7993292 said:
chiyosuke;7993183 said:
Karl.;7989122 said:
CJ;7984869 said:
Karl.;7984753 said:
Are they really charging twice as much as spotify?

There's a $9.99 & $19.99 option

So it's double the price to get FLAC quality?

I touched on this earlier. All these lossless rips (WAV, FLAC and I believe OGG, iTunes has their own lossless ripper as well if memory serves me right) are are literally the uncompressed (or mostly uncompressed) direct rip of a CD. Assuming you're listening to an album that's total storage tops out at 700 MB, the corresponding rip will total 700 MB or somewhere close to that. Then we have the lossy formats, the most commonly used being mp3 and m4a (MPEG 4 Audio), both of which can be ripped at variable bitrates (all iTunes releases are VBR rips) to, to the closest extent, match the audio of the product that it ripped without losing too much unneed information. Or some might say fuck it and rip at a constant bitrate of 320. I understand that there are audiophiles out there, but again, what is the point of not only paying more for audio that's difference is largely unnoticeable, but also possibly maxing out your bandwith earlier with less content (assuming one's service is limited aka most that's sole internet connection is via a phone company).

Let's say an album ripped by iTunes collectively tops out at 150 MB whereas a lossless rip of the same album tops at the 80 min/700 MB mark (upwards of 4.6 times larger), economically what's the point? I mean, if one has the money to blow then more power to em but whatever. This is waaaaay more than I wanted to contribute to this stupid ass thread.

Also, someone mentioned earlier that this is HD audio. That IS NOT the case. This shyt is SD, standard definition. PERIOD! If you buy into that shyt otherwise your ass has been duped.

That's not accurate. Lossless is a compressed file but it does not loose the important data. It decompresses upon playback like a mp3. The file size is much smaller say a 700mb cd would be 500mb. A Wav is uncompressed and is a direct rip. You can also get a higher quality rip (24bits) from an LP. Also, flac can contain multiple channels so you can also get a 5.1 mix.

Did I not say "or mostly uncompressed"? >_>
 
TheGOAT;7993010 said:
https://twitter.com/S_C_/status/592378135284490240

But the price points are the same as those with middle men and no free version

TheGOAT;7993041 said:
https://twitter.com/S_C_/status/592380684200710145

but again the fan pays the same price as spotify more if someone has the free version of spotify

TheGOAT;7992980 said:
Nevermind i think it just means hes gunna say some shit on Twitter about tidal

Jay always makin a big deal about anytime he tweets
https://twitter.com/S_C_/status/592375672510795777

ok but while you are growing actually explain what someone paying 9.99 or 19.99 actually gets that they can't get on a free version of grooveshark, spotify, or pandora

 
Monizzle14;7993316 said:
TheGOAT;7993010 said:
https://twitter.com/S_C_/status/592378135284490240

But the price points are the same as those with middle men and no free version

TheGOAT;7993041 said:
https://twitter.com/S_C_/status/592380684200710145

but again the fan pays the same price as spotify more if someone has the free version of spotify

TheGOAT;7992980 said:
Nevermind i think it just means hes gunna say some shit on Twitter about tidal

Jay always makin a big deal about anytime he tweets
https://twitter.com/S_C_/status/592375672510795777

ok but while you are growing actually explain what someone paying 9.99 or 19.99 actually gets that they can't get on a free version of grooveshark, spotify, or pandora

I don't think he can hear you.
 
sully;7993329 said:
Monizzle14;7993316 said:
TheGOAT;7993010 said:
https://twitter.com/S_C_/status/592378135284490240

But the price points are the same as those with middle men and no free version

TheGOAT;7993041 said:
https://twitter.com/S_C_/status/592380684200710145

but again the fan pays the same price as spotify more if someone has the free version of spotify

TheGOAT;7992980 said:
Nevermind i think it just means hes gunna say some shit on Twitter about tidal

Jay always makin a big deal about anytime he tweets
https://twitter.com/S_C_/status/592375672510795777

ok but while you are growing actually explain what someone paying 9.99 or 19.99 actually gets that they can't get on a free version of grooveshark, spotify, or pandora

I don't think he can hear you.

so you saying hov ain't gon reply to my comments on the reason!!!??!!!

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chiyosuke;7993304 said:
Jabu_Rule;7993292 said:
chiyosuke;7993183 said:
Karl.;7989122 said:
CJ;7984869 said:
Karl.;7984753 said:
Are they really charging twice as much as spotify?

There's a $9.99 & $19.99 option

So it's double the price to get FLAC quality?

I touched on this earlier. All these lossless rips (WAV, FLAC and I believe OGG, iTunes has their own lossless ripper as well if memory serves me right) are are literally the uncompressed (or mostly uncompressed) direct rip of a CD. Assuming you're listening to an album that's total storage tops out at 700 MB, the corresponding rip will total 700 MB or somewhere close to that. Then we have the lossy formats, the most commonly used being mp3 and m4a (MPEG 4 Audio), both of which can be ripped at variable bitrates (all iTunes releases are VBR rips) to, to the closest extent, match the audio of the product that it ripped without losing too much unneed information. Or some might say fuck it and rip at a constant bitrate of 320. I understand that there are audiophiles out there, but again, what is the point of not only paying more for audio that's difference is largely unnoticeable, but also possibly maxing out your bandwith earlier with less content (assuming one's service is limited aka most that's sole internet connection is via a phone company).

Let's say an album ripped by iTunes collectively tops out at 150 MB whereas a lossless rip of the same album tops at the 80 min/700 MB mark (upwards of 4.6 times larger), economically what's the point? I mean, if one has the money to blow then more power to em but whatever. This is waaaaay more than I wanted to contribute to this stupid ass thread.

Also, someone mentioned earlier that this is HD audio. That IS NOT the case. This shyt is SD, standard definition. PERIOD! If you buy into that shyt otherwise your ass has been duped.

That's not accurate. Lossless is a compressed file but it does not loose the important data. It decompresses upon playback like a mp3. The file size is much smaller say a 700mb cd would be 500mb. A Wav is uncompressed and is a direct rip. You can also get a higher quality rip (24bits) from an LP. Also, flac can contain multiple channels so you can also get a 5.1 mix.

Did I not say "or mostly uncompressed"? >_>

Actually you did, but you through me off when you were talking about the mb. You didn't mention the variation in space. Also only one format is uncompressed which is wav so it's pointless speaking on that since nobody uses it for general playback other then djs.
 
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stringer bell;7993336 said:
https://twitter.com/yngbldprst/statuses/592381314608730113

jay gon reply like: The upcoming album me and Bey putting out will end police violence against black people. But this album is only on tidal #tidalfacts
 
Jay z don't give a fuck about yall lmao...he don't say shit when innocent black kids get gunned down...
stringer bell;7993336 said:
https://twitter.com/yngbldprst/statuses/592381314608730113

He can't fuck up his CAC friends

Fuckn camel
 
Jabu_Rule;7993359 said:
chiyosuke;7993304 said:
Jabu_Rule;7993292 said:
chiyosuke;7993183 said:
Karl.;7989122 said:
CJ;7984869 said:
Karl.;7984753 said:
Are they really charging twice as much as spotify?

There's a $9.99 & $19.99 option

So it's double the price to get FLAC quality?

I touched on this earlier. All these lossless rips (WAV, FLAC and I believe OGG, iTunes has their own lossless ripper as well if memory serves me right) are are literally the uncompressed (or mostly uncompressed) direct rip of a CD. Assuming you're listening to an album that's total storage tops out at 700 MB, the corresponding rip will total 700 MB or somewhere close to that. Then we have the lossy formats, the most commonly used being mp3 and m4a (MPEG 4 Audio), both of which can be ripped at variable bitrates (all iTunes releases are VBR rips) to, to the closest extent, match the audio of the product that it ripped without losing too much unneed information. Or some might say fuck it and rip at a constant bitrate of 320. I understand that there are audiophiles out there, but again, what is the point of not only paying more for audio that's difference is largely unnoticeable, but also possibly maxing out your bandwith earlier with less content (assuming one's service is limited aka most that's sole internet connection is via a phone company).

Let's say an album ripped by iTunes collectively tops out at 150 MB whereas a lossless rip of the same album tops at the 80 min/700 MB mark (upwards of 4.6 times larger), economically what's the point? I mean, if one has the money to blow then more power to em but whatever. This is waaaaay more than I wanted to contribute to this stupid ass thread.

Also, someone mentioned earlier that this is HD audio. That IS NOT the case. This shyt is SD, standard definition. PERIOD! If you buy into that shyt otherwise your ass has been duped.

That's not accurate. Lossless is a compressed file but it does not loose the important data. It decompresses upon playback like a mp3. The file size is much smaller say a 700mb cd would be 500mb. A Wav is uncompressed and is a direct rip. You can also get a higher quality rip (24bits) from an LP. Also, flac can contain multiple channels so you can also get a 5.1 mix.

Did I not say "or mostly uncompressed"? >_>

Actually you did, but you through me off when you were talking about the mb. You didn't mention the variation in space. Also only one format is uncompressed which is wav so it's pointless speaking on that since nobody uses it for general playback other then djs.

Yea I was generalizing on purpose (like I said in that post I was investing way more time to this thread than I wanted to), tryna to get somewhat of an understanding to those out there about the topic. We both know there's entirely too much more that would've went into explaining this differences between formats.
 
Max.;7993411 said:
Jay z don't give a fuck about yall lmao...he don't say shit when innocent black kids get gunned down...
stringer bell;7993336 said:
https://twitter.com/yngbldprst/statuses/592381314608730113

He can't fuck up his CAC friends

Fuckn camel

Oh he only set up a scholarship fund for Sean Bell's kids, dedicated a verse to Delroy Wilson,etc. But let some of ya'll tell it
 

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