StoneColdMikey;c-10039117 said:The movements jiren has shown since the beginning of arc plus what Whis says and the way God’s react to both Goku and jiren fight all but confirms that jiren has UI or is a master at it .
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StoneColdMikey;c-10039117 said:The movements jiren has shown since the beginning of arc plus what Whis says and the way God’s react to both Goku and jiren fight all but confirms that jiren has UI or is a master at it .
StoneColdMikey;c-10039117 said:The movements jiren has shown since the beginning of arc plus what Whis says and the way God’s react to both Goku and jiren fight all but confirms that jiren has UI or is a master at it .
CashmoneyDux;c-10039338 said:StoneColdMikey;c-10039117 said:The movements jiren has shown since the beginning of arc plus what Whis says and the way God’s react to both Goku and jiren fight all but confirms that jiren has UI or is a master at it .
I agree with this, but none of this is confirmed so I can't cosign you or Lonious Monks posts. Like @gemini86 says, just watch and see
OmegaConflict;c-10039441 said:Jiren does not know UI because he had to meditate when those blocks were coming towards him and goku. UI is your body acting on his own without thought. Thats goku trump card in this battle and on top of that is his new godly limit breaker form aka ss4 aka oozaru coming soon. Ok? Go fuck yourself
OmegaConflict;c-10039626 said:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zH-dtQfTt3w
KnowReasonForPeace;c-10039379 said:If jiren has UI and mastered it, dont youbthinkbit would've been mentioned by atleast whis or one of the other gods and angels? Everyone was surprised at goku pulling that shit off including the clown god. Jiren is just all out powerful and fast.
Beta;c-10039460 said:Jiren invented UI
iron man1;c-10038121 said:The Lonious Monk;c-10037442 said:Beta;c-10037116 said:I feel like when the spirit bomb imploded the fact that jiren has ultra instinct, goku absorbed it somehow when he fell in the black hole and he temporarily possessed what makes jiren so great..
Jiren doesn't have ultra instinct. He's just very powerful. If he did, the GoDs would have recognized it.
The simple fact that he knew what was happening to Goku was proof enough that he either has what Goku has or a more refined version of it and just hasn't a need to utilize it. He tanked Gokus knee shot and beam combo with fks given on top of the last punch before his power ran out. Hit looka like he may have figured something out before he inevitably gets taken out since Jirens chest is damaged.
Sion;c-10036365 said:LcnsdbyROYALTY;c-10036274 said:Sion;c-10035290 said:LcnsdbyROYALTY;c-10033897 said:Sion;c-10033330 said:young_belvi;c-10033256 said:Sion;c-10033224 said:Fun fact despite being stronger Goku had never beaten Vegeta and Even if you add the SSJ3 shit in the Buu saga Goku still lost for playing with his food and a loss is a loss.
Nah, if Goku would have went SSJ3 against Majin Vegeta he would have won, but he was saving his stamina and all that ish not to use up his time on earth. Not to mention the numerous time vegeta has mentioned that Kakarot has surpassed him yada yada yada.
But that didn't happen LOLOL
When they fought Vegeta won all their fights. An L is an L Goku got knocked the fuck out in the Buu saga fight.
The last time (Goku vs Majin Vegeta) doesn't count since that nigga cheapshot tha shyt outta Goku. Fuck whether he beat him, Goku was clearly stronger at that point.
And he still lost, Vegeta could have killed him afterwards while he was unconscious. You can say "it ain't fair Vegeta let Cell go perfect when he was clearly stronger" again, it doesn't matter because he let it happen and lost that fight. Goku paid the price for playing with his food.
Tha fuck are you talkin bout!? They agreed to postpone the fight before Vegeta made that fuck nigga move (thus, the fight was technically over). We don't prop sneak attacks, my nigga.
LOOOOOLLLLOOOOOLLLLL fam he pulled a fast one on Goku and knocked him out end of story. Goku could have killed him the same way Vegeta could have killed Imperfect Cell but didn't. Vegeta beat Goku, don't matter if it was fair or not.
It doesn't matter who was stronger it doesn't change the fact that Goku has never beaten Vegeta in any of their fights 1 on 1.
dalyricalbandit;c-10030929 said:I use to think Vegeta was the greatest shit talker but when Frieza comes around he the Goat shit talker