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The Lonious Monk;8930349 said:
KnowReasonForPeace;8929378 said:
Vegeta gotta think more like goku. Being the stronger fighter dont mean shit if you can't think on your feet quickly. Yes goku had an advantage watching them fight first but he still has to execute and prepare for counter attacks from the opponent.

I don't really understand your point. Goku is smart no doubt, but I'm not sure hire his win reflects poorly on Vegeta. Goku had knowledge and a powerful technique Vegeta didn't. He should be expected to do better under the circumstances. What Vegeta needs is the opportunity to learn some shit Goku doesn't. Goku can power up, teleport, blind people, etc... Vegetables can just fire off different projectiles and that's about it.

Vegeta is not diversified in his fighting catalogue, while Goku is.
 
Ajackson17;8931991 said:
The Lonious Monk;8930349 said:
KnowReasonForPeace;8929378 said:
Vegeta gotta think more like goku. Being the stronger fighter dont mean shit if you can't think on your feet quickly. Yes goku had an advantage watching them fight first but he still has to execute and prepare for counter attacks from the opponent.

I don't really understand your point. Goku is smart no doubt, but I'm not sure hire his win reflects poorly on Vegeta. Goku had knowledge and a powerful technique Vegeta didn't. He should be expected to do better under the circumstances. What Vegeta needs is the opportunity to learn some shit Goku doesn't. Goku can power up, teleport, blind people, etc... Vegetables can just fire off different projectiles and that's about it.

Vegeta is not diversified in his fighting catalogue, while Goku is.

Yeah, that's pretty much the point of what I was saying. But Goku isn't really diverse on his own merits. He's that way because he's been exposed to and taught by a lot of different people. He chooses to learn where Vegeta doesn't really care about anything that he can overcome with his own power.
 
StoneColdMikey;8931884 said:
gemini86;8931205 said:
CashmoneyDux;8929647 said:
ssb gogeta or ss4 gogeta?

Ssj4 gogeta as of now

SUper Saiyan blue Goku would beat ss4 gogeta

Exactly. Vegeta surpassed Goku in that brief moment and made Beerus go to 10% and Beerus made lightwork of Ssj3 without being touched so he might have been using 5% of his power or less, SSJ4 is X10 of ssj3, so even 50% of power is not to push 70% Beerus. So automatically SSJB fusion would be stronger than a SSJ4 Fusion and then add the ability to Kaio-Ken like we saw in this episode. Kaio-Ken times 20 would be overkill for SSJ4 Gogeta.
 
The Lonious Monk;8932013 said:
Ajackson17;8931991 said:
The Lonious Monk;8930349 said:
KnowReasonForPeace;8929378 said:
Vegeta gotta think more like goku. Being the stronger fighter dont mean shit if you can't think on your feet quickly. Yes goku had an advantage watching them fight first but he still has to execute and prepare for counter attacks from the opponent.

I don't really understand your point. Goku is smart no doubt, but I'm not sure hire his win reflects poorly on Vegeta. Goku had knowledge and a powerful technique Vegeta didn't. He should be expected to do better under the circumstances. What Vegeta needs is the opportunity to learn some shit Goku doesn't. Goku can power up, teleport, blind people, etc... Vegetables can just fire off different projectiles and that's about it.

Vegeta is not diversified in his fighting catalogue, while Goku is.

Yeah, that's pretty much the point of what I was saying. But Goku isn't really diverse on his own merits. He's that way because he's been exposed to and taught by a lot of different people. He chooses to learn where Vegeta doesn't really care about anything that he can overcome with his own power.

Yeah Vegeta isn't trying to learn anything new, but I think this will force him to grow as a fighter.
 
Ajackson17;8932134 said:
The Lonious Monk;8932013 said:
Ajackson17;8931991 said:
The Lonious Monk;8930349 said:
KnowReasonForPeace;8929378 said:
Vegeta gotta think more like goku. Being the stronger fighter dont mean shit if you can't think on your feet quickly. Yes goku had an advantage watching them fight first but he still has to execute and prepare for counter attacks from the opponent.

I don't really understand your point. Goku is smart no doubt, but I'm not sure hire his win reflects poorly on Vegeta. Goku had knowledge and a powerful technique Vegeta didn't. He should be expected to do better under the circumstances. What Vegeta needs is the opportunity to learn some shit Goku doesn't. Goku can power up, teleport, blind people, etc... Vegetables can just fire off different projectiles and that's about it.

Vegeta is not diversified in his fighting catalogue, while Goku is.

Yeah, that's pretty much the point of what I was saying. But Goku isn't really diverse on his own merits. He's that way because he's been exposed to and taught by a lot of different people. He chooses to learn where Vegeta doesn't really care about anything that he can overcome with his own power.

Yeah Vegeta isn't trying to learn anything new, but I think this will force him to grow as a fighter.

I doubt that. This is the first time he agreed to be trained by someone else. This is due to his limited goal of being stronger than Kakarot.

While Kakarot wants to be have fun and keep getting stronger. That is the difference between them.

Vegeta should have realized this a while ago. Gohan was trained by people stronger than him, the result Gohan being stronger than Vegeta. Vegeta is too quick to hail himself as the greatest saiyan when he is one of the least skillfully sound characters.
 
Ajackson17;8932031 said:
StoneColdMikey;8931884 said:
gemini86;8931205 said:
CashmoneyDux;8929647 said:
ssb gogeta or ss4 gogeta?

Ssj4 gogeta as of now

SUper Saiyan blue Goku would beat ss4 gogeta

Exactly. Vegeta surpassed Goku in that brief moment and made Beerus go to 10% and Beerus made lightwork of Ssj3 without being touched so he might have been using 5% of his power or less, SSJ4 is X10 of ssj3, so even 50% of power is not to push 70% Beerus. So automatically SSJB fusion would be stronger than a SSJ4 Fusion and then add the ability to Kaio-Ken like we saw in this episode. Kaio-Ken times 20 would be overkill for SSJ4 Gogeta.

Here you are arguing ssb GOGETA. Dude said ssb GOKU.

SSB Goku < SS4 Gogeta id think off the strength of fusion.

Worth arguing is ssb gogeta vs ss4 gogeta
 
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coop9889;8934143 said:
Ajackson17;8932031 said:
StoneColdMikey;8931884 said:
gemini86;8931205 said:
CashmoneyDux;8929647 said:
ssb gogeta or ss4 gogeta?

Ssj4 gogeta as of now

SUper Saiyan blue Goku would beat ss4 gogeta

Exactly. Vegeta surpassed Goku in that brief moment and made Beerus go to 10% and Beerus made lightwork of Ssj3 without being touched so he might have been using 5% of his power or less, SSJ4 is X10 of ssj3, so even 50% of power is not to push 70% Beerus. So automatically SSJB fusion would be stronger than a SSJ4 Fusion and then add the ability to Kaio-Ken like we saw in this episode. Kaio-Ken times 20 would be overkill for SSJ4 Gogeta.

Here you are arguing ssb GOGETA. Dude said ssb GOKU.

SSB Goku < SS4 Gogeta id think off the strength of fusion.

Worth arguing is ssb gogeta vs ss4 gogeta

Lmao that was the original argument idk where SSB goku came from
 
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Just seen the raw episode. Goku's body gave out and he lost. Then Hit apparently took a dive against monaka so universe 6 won. Champa was gonna kill his fighters and then he got scared when the ruler of universe 12 showed u
 
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gemini86;8947771 said:
Just seen the raw episode. Goku's body gave out and he lost. Then Hit apparently took a dive against monaka so universe 6 won. Champa was gonna kill his fighters and then he got scared when the ruler of universe 12 showed up

Shitty writing like I said
 
CashmoneyDux;8948353 said:
gemini86;8947771 said:
Just seen the raw episode. Goku's body gave out and he lost. Then Hit apparently took a dive against monaka so universe 6 won. Champa was gonna kill his fighters and then he got scared when the ruler of universe 12 showed up

Shitty writing like I said

Just curious, but what about that was bad writing to you?
 
The Lonious Monk;8948928 said:
CashmoneyDux;8948353 said:
gemini86;8947771 said:
Just seen the raw episode. Goku's body gave out and he lost. Then Hit apparently took a dive against monaka so universe 6 won. Champa was gonna kill his fighters and then he got scared when the ruler of universe 12 showed up

Shitty writing like I said

Just curious, but what about that was bad writing to you?

The power level discrepancies leading up to this tournament is complete bullshit.
 
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