The Official 2pac Versus Biggie Thread...

[king of nyc]

u r stuupid cuz im provin FACTZ 2 everythang im sayin u aint foolin nobody but ya self 2pac was a MEGA STAR biggie was a RAP STAR therr is a BIG difference if u cant c that u need 2 take biggiez dick outta ya eye...FUUK JM!!

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshheCd44E49Gz6Me2OX

answer da fucking question? u pac niggaz alway avoid answering questions.

what lp would have sold moree 1nation or da commission?

and answer me this question if u claim pac was a mega star while biggie was only a rap star

THEN: why did LAD out sell AEOM?

2 L's & counting.....................

 

[just.might.b.ok]

reminds me to my fav. snoop quotable "i dont listen to eminem records, im gangsta"

 

[gee757]

answer da fucking question? u pac niggaz alway avoid answering questions.

what lp would have sold moree 1nation or da commission?

and answer me this question if u claim pac was a mega star while biggie was only a rap star

THEN: why did LAD out sell AEOM?

2 L's & counting.....................

i dont know wat album wouldve sold mo cuz they neva drop'd,,,,& u r a delusional biggie groupie cuz this pik is very tellin..,,

^^^^look @ 2pac wit his JEWELZ on da watch & ring & biggie is rockin STAIN'D JEANZ & STRECH is standin n da background wit a POETIC JUSTICE tee on PAC WAS DA MEGA STAR BIGGIE WAS DA RAP STAR....da STUDENT BIGGIE could neva outshyne his TEACHER TUPAC & 2pac outsold biggiez 1st lp ready 2 die n 2monthz wit ALL EYEZ ON ME cuz it went 5 xplatinum n 2monthz while he was alive 2pac & deathrow was smokin biggie & bad boy n sellz & lad only sold alot cuz BIGGIE was DEAD!! & look @ junior mafia now 2pac was so rite about them bitchz jm aint nuttin but a bunch of faggotz thatz y lill cease b dancin butt naked wit his dick out fa da whole mafia crew a room full of dudez minus lil kim n da name of BIG NO HOMO!!

 

[AntonLATroy]

answer da fucking question? u pac niggaz alway avoid answering questions.

what lp would have sold moree 1nation or da commission?

and answer me this question if u claim pac was a mega star while biggie was only a rap star

THEN: why did LAD out sell AEOM?

2 L's & counting.....................

God You Guys are amazing here if we are going to go off of sales then factor this Tupac sold 75million records Biggie sold 18 million in that case there is no comparison. But true HipHop Heads do not care about sales like that because Numbers are very easily flipped and irrelevant when it comes to skill or influence. Heck for that matter MC Hammer Sold More Units Then Biggie does that make him the better Rapper? Given your name is KingOfNYC I will assume you are a Biggie or Jigga Stan so I understand your whole passion on the matter but do not let that blind you to the facts

 

[rapmastermind]

i dont know wat album wouldve sold mo cuz they neva drop'd,,,,& u r a delusional biggie groupie cuz this pik is very tellin..,,

^^^^look @ 2pac wit his JEWELZ on da watch & ring & biggie is rockin STAIN'D JEANZ & STRECH is standin n da background wit a POETIC JUSTICE tee on PAC WAS DA MEGA STAR BIGGIE WAS DA RAP STAR....da STUDENT BIGGIE could neva outshyne his TEACHER TUPAC & 2pac outsold biggiez 1st lp ready 2 die n 2monthz wit ALL EYEZ ON ME cuz it went 5 xplatinum n 2monthz while he was alive 2pac & deathrow was smokin biggie & bad boy n sellz & lad only sold alot cuz BIGGIE was DEAD!! & look @ junior mafia now 2pac was so rite about them bitchz jm aint nuttin but a bunch of faggotz thatz y lill cease b dancin butt naked wit his dick out fa da whole mafia crew a room full of dudez minus lil kim n da name of BIG NO HOMO!!

Artist

2 PAC Title

ME AGAINST THE WORLD Certification Date

12/06/1995 Label

INTERSCOPE

Award Description

2.00x MULTI PLATINUM Format

ALBUM Category

SOLO Type

ST

1st Pac was no "MEGA STAR" his LP's were barely going GOLD at the point. He was a raising Star and Biggie was underground at the point. Overall Biggie has sold half of Tupac's Totals with 10 LP's less. Also Biggie Smalls "Ready To Die" was certified Platinum the same day "Me Against the World" Came out therefor Biggie Smalls recieved a Platinum Award before Tupac did for an LP. "Me against the World" wasn't no 5x Platinum in two months. Stop Smoking. It was only certified Double Platinum by the end of 95. I will just keep letting the Ether burn. Also these photos were when Biggie was just coming out, Pac was already established with his two Gold LP's. Also "Junior Mafia" sold more than "Thug Life" and had more successful singles. Bringing up sales is pointless cause Biggie moved units and had better chart success than Pac did out the gate. Biggie didn't need to wait 3 LP's to finally go Platinum. He went Platinum out the game and had hit songs out the gate. Something Tupac cannot say. Pac took time to get hot, Biggie was HOT INSTANTLY. Also Lim Kim has sold 10 Million albums on her own right making her one of the highest selling female rappers EVER. Lil Cease went Gold. How much have the Outlaws sold? Thought so.

 

[gee757]

Artist

2 PAC Title

ME AGAINST THE WORLD Certification Date

12/06/1995 Label

INTERSCOPE

Award Description

2.00x MULTI PLATINUM Format

ALBUM Category

SOLO Type

ST

Biggie has sold half of Tupac's Totals with 10 LP's less. Also Biggie Smalls "Ready To Die" was certified Platinum the same day "Me Against the World" Came out therefor Biggie Smalls recieved a Platinum Award before Tupac did for an LP. "Me against the World" wasn't no 5x Platinum in two months. Stop Smoking. It was only certified Double Platinum by the end of 95. I will just keep letting the Ether burn. Also these photos were when Biggie was just coming out, Pac was already established with his two Gold LP's. Also "Junior Mafia" sold more than "Thug Life" and had more successful singles. Bringing up sales is pointless cause Biggie moved units and had better chart success than Pac did. Biggie didn't need to wait 3 LP's to finally go Platinum. He went Platinum out the game and had hit songs out the gate. Something Tupac cannot say. Pac took time to get hot, Biggie was HOT INSTANTLY. Also Lim Kim has sold 10 Million albums on her own right making her one of the highest selling female rappers EVER. Lil Cease went Gold. How much have the Outlaws sold? Thought so.

[video=youtube;N4HjsZqOaQ0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4HjsZqOaQ0[/video]

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[rapmastermind]

[video=youtube;N4HjsZqOaQ0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4HjsZqOaQ0[/video]

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LOL, that's right duck the Ether. What happen to "Pac sold 5 Million in 2 months". You mixed up the albums, "All Eyes on Me" did sell 5 Milli in 3 months but It took "Me against the World" over a year to go Double Platinum. The bottom line, facts are facts:

Biggie Going Multi-Platinum off his Debut Album and Having 2 Platinum singles and 1 Gold singles on his debut album > Pac taking 2 years for his debut album to go GOLD and not seeing a Platinum award until his 3rd album.

Oh Yea, "Life After Death" outsold "All Eyes On Me" and Biggie wasn't even alive to promote the album and do more videos like Pac was. So if we want to be fair:

Ready To Die outsold Me against the World, Strictly 4 my Niggas and 2apacalypse Now combined

Life After Death outsold All Eyes On Me

Looks like Biggie was already pacing well ahead of Pac.

 

[a_list]

yo i thought i saw stannery before but this gee757 cat takes it to new heights lol damn

 

[gee757]

LOL, that's right duck the Ether. What happen to "Pac sold 5 Million in 2 months". You mixed up the albums, "All Eyes on Me" did sell 5 Milli in 3 months but It took "Me against the World" over a year to go Double Platinum. The bottom line, facts are facts:

Biggie Going Multi-Platinum off his Debut Album and Having 2 Platinum singles and 1 Gold singles on his debut album > Pac taking 2 years for his debut album to go GOLD and not seeing a Platinum award until his 3rd album.

Oh Yea, "Life After Death" outsold "All Eyes On Me" and Biggie wasn't even alive to promote the album and do more videos like Pac was. So if we want to be fair:

Ready To Die outsold Me against the World, Strictly 4 my Niggas and 2apacalypse Now combined

Life After Death outsold All Eyes On Me

Looks like Biggie was already pacing well ahead of Pac.

im not duckin shit im just dun wit u cuz u have proved u r a pac hater & a DELUSIONAL big dick ryda i give up yes biggie was bigger then pac okay?? lol smh

yo i thought i saw stannery before but this gee757 cat takes it to new heights lol damn

gtfoh u clown im backin everythang im sayin n this thread up wit FACTZ & PROOF so aint no stan shit ova herr...

 

[A.R. Marks]

Saying 2Pac went at the whole east coast 'by himself' is an utter fallacy, he was only going at Biggie and Puffy until he signed with Suge, then it became fuck (all of) Bad Boy and every nigga down wit 'em. Suddenly he had Snoop, tha Dogg Pound, and that whole shit ton of Outlawz there were back then to help him out dissing these guys. In fact he disowned any artist as a friend who didn't want to go at them with him, which more than anything makes me think he was scared to take on the east coast alone. The image of Pac as a lone rider tearing down the entire east coast is a falsehood.

The next fallacy is trying to say nobody stepped up for Big and that they all waited until Pac died to diss him, and/or they were scared to do it while he was alive. Not speaking for Nas, who may or may not have ended up settling the shit between him and Pac, but (as I said) Jay-Z literally was ready to release his 2Pac diss and he was going to start his own lyrical war with him. If Jay was involved Big would have immediately jumped on the bandwagon. I don't think there's even a question about that. DMX did diss Pac, that's a fact, and unless they squashed the shit he would have definitely continued to take it to Pac. Mobb was dissing him. CNN were dissing L.A. (which was like dissing Pac in effect). Where do you get this image that all these NY artists were shit scared of him? Jay, Mobb, DMX, Biggie (trying to be the peace keeper and STILL sending subliminals), Nas ("rollin' over these fake Makavelis"), which artists are you saying were too scared to diss him again?

 

[a_list]

im not duckin shit im just dun wit u cuz u have proved u r a pac hater & a DELUSIONAL big dick ryda i give up yes biggie was bigger then pac okay?? lol smh

gtfoh u clown im backin everythang im sayin n this thread up wit FACTZ & PROOF so aint no stan shit ova herr...

lol nigga u fighting hard for someone who u didnt kno lol i see that u was moved by the music but damn....u backin up what yo u throwin out numbers which is wat stans usually do but u kno that pac was just an average rapper and wasnt on bigs level technically but ya stannery is clouding ya judgement

 

[a_list]

Saying 2Pac went at the whole east coast 'by himself' is an utter fallacy, he was only going at Biggie and Puffy until he signed with Suge, then it became fuck (all of) Bad Boy and every nigga down wit 'em. Suddenly he had Snoop, tha Dogg Pound, and that whole shit ton of Outlawz there were back then to help him out dissing these guys. In fact he disowned any artist as a friend who didn't want to go at them with him, which more than anything makes me think he was scared to take on the east coast alone. The image of Pac as a lone rider tearing down the entire east coast is a falsehood.

The next fallacy is trying to say nobody stepped up for Big and that they all waited until Pac died to diss him, and/or they were scared to do it while he was alive. Not speaking for Nas, who may or may not have ended up settling the shit between him and Pac, but (as I said) Jay-Z literally was ready to release his 2Pac diss and he was going to start his own lyrical war with him. If Jay was involved Big would have immediately jumped on the bandwagon. I don't think there's even a question about that. DMX did diss Pac, that's a fact, and unless they squashed the shit he would have definitely continued to take it to Pac. Mobb was dissing him. CNN were dissing L.A. (which was like dissing Pac in effect). Where do you get this image that all these NY artists were shit scared of him? Jay, Mobb, DMX, Biggie (trying to be the peace keeper and STILL sending subliminals), Nas ("rollin' over these fake Makavelis"), which artists are you saying were too scared to diss him again?

u know about some jay shyt coming at pac because he took cut bigs part on Brooklyn's Finest when he said most hated in california because he didnt want to be associated with the beef

 

[gee757]

lol nigga u fighting hard for someone who u didnt kno lol i see that u was moved by the music but damn....u backin up what yo u throwin out numbers which is wat stans usually do but u kno that pac was just an average rapper and wasnt on bigs level technically but ya stannery is clouding ya judgement

again STFU wit that stannery shit da numberz im sayin about all eyez on me is CORRECT...AEOM drop'd on 2/96 & was 5x PLATINUM by 4/96 shittin on biggie & bad boy CHECKMATE & that is a FACT no h8!! & who carez if pac was just a average rapper his career still went way farther then biggiez ever did 2pac stay'd on CNN biggie will neva b LIVE az 2pac...im dun lol

 

[rapmastermind]

Saying 2Pac went at the whole east coast 'by himself' is an utter fallacy, he was only going at Biggie and Puffy until he signed with Suge, then it became fuck (all of) Bad Boy and every nigga down wit 'em. Suddenly he had Snoop, tha Dogg Pound, and that whole shit ton of Outlawz there were back then to help him out dissing these guys. In fact he disowned any artist as a friend who didn't want to go at them with him, which more than anything makes me think he was scared to take on the east coast alone. The image of Pac as a lone rider tearing down the entire east coast is a falsehood.

The next fallacy is trying to say nobody stepped up for Big and that they all waited until Pac died to diss him, and/or they were scared to do it while he was alive. Not speaking for Nas, who may or may not have ended up settling the shit between him and Pac, but (as I said) Jay-Z literally was ready to release his 2Pac diss and he was going to start his own lyrical war with him. If Jay was involved Big would have immediately jumped on the bandwagon. I don't think there's even a question about that. DMX did diss Pac, that's a fact, and unless they squashed the shit he would have definitely continued to take it to Pac. Mobb was dissing him. CNN were dissing L.A. (which was like dissing Pac in effect). Where do you get this image that all these NY artists were shit scared of him? Jay, Mobb, DMX, Biggie (trying to be the peace keeper and STILL sending subliminals), Nas ("rollin' over these fake Makavelis"), which artists are you saying were too scared to diss him again?

This cat thinks "One Nation" would of been Bigger than Biggie, Puffy, Jay Z, Ma$e, DMX, Lox, Fat Joe, Big Pun and the countless Eastcoast rappers and producers riding with Biggie and Puffy. Some Pac fans really live in their own world and think Pac was this beloved figure on the East. Wrong, Pac still owns the record for the rapper who dissed the most artist in RAP HISTORY. Pac even turned on Dre and Snoop. It's clear going forward Pac would of had to deal with Biggie who was getting better and better lyrically and musically. He would of had to deal with Biggie's #1 solider, Jay Z who was about to take Hip Hop by storm. DMX was an unoffical member of Bad Boy when he first came out so he would of rode with Big for sure. It's a joke that "One Nation" was going to shut down anything. All "One Nation" was, was Pac's attempt to try to show the East he didn't have a problem with everyone but it was too late, I mean he dissed the Fuguees who outsold him in 96. Trust me, Pac would of had to change his tune, he isolated himself by dissing to many artist.

 

[northside7]

Commercial rap always sellz!

 

[A.R. Marks]

u know about some jay shyt coming at pac because he took cut bigs part on Brooklyn's Finest when he said most hated in california because he didnt want to be associated with the beef

More than that, he recorded a song called "Dead or Alive" with Sauce Money. There are 2 versions, the 1st one he says "On the celly bumpin' Makaveli, I hold no grudge, you diss me I diss you, what, love is love." Both versions are clearly full diss songs to 2Pac. Check it:

 

[a_list]

again STFU wit that stannery shit da numberz im sayin about all eyez on me is CORRECT...AEOM drop'd on 2/96 & was 5x PLATINUM by 4/96 shittin on biggie & bad boy CHECKMATE & that is a FACT no h8!! & who carez if pac was just a average rapper his career still went way farther then biggiez ever did 2pac stay'd on CNN biggie will neva b LIVE az 2pac...im dun lol

lol c right there homie only a stan would care who's stay'd on cnn and all that other shyt what does that hve to do with anything lol u fascinated with the dudes personal life too huh..glad u finally admitted it damn all this back in forth with people for so many pages when you couldve said along time ago yo big was the better rapper so it couldve been possible i dont care about no numbers i listened to the better emcee and that was clearly b.i.g

 

[gee757]

[video=youtube;JQkOrK2DhUs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQkOrK2DhUs[/video]

^^ look @ snoop lookin so shook n that video wit pac actin like he got 2pacz back snoop is so fuuukin fake again that snitch snoop would not say that bs if 2pac was alive!

 

[gee757]

lol c right there homie only a stan would care who's stay'd on cnn and all that other shyt what does that hve to do with anything lol u fascinated with the dudes personal life too huh..glad u finally admitted it damn all this back in forth with people for so many pages when you couldve said along time ago yo big was the better rapper so it couldve been possible i dont care about no numbers i listened to the better emcee and that was clearly b.i.g

i only start'd talkin about numberz & cnn cuz yall biggie groupiez is tryna act like big was mo live then tupac which is not tru & is a straight FAIRYTALE!!

 

[a_list]

i only start'd talkin about numberz & cnn cuz yall biggie groupiez is tryna act like big was mo live then tupac which is not tru & is a straight FAIRYTALE!!

first off im no big groupie son and big and dont care who was live or not i listened to big because he was the better emcee