The Official 2pac Versus Biggie Thread...

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Suge knew something was gonna go down that night. I aint sayin he responsible................but he knew something was going down.

Tupac murder was definatly pre-planned. It wasn't just a reaction to a chain snatching beef.

I also belive that Diddy knew something was gonna go down the night of Tupac'd death.
 
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NuffRespect;1965932 said:
this is wut sum1 posted on another website

"Look this si the whole real dela truth about this ****. Those who in the streets or industry will know thsi the truth.

Pac got shot because, the *****s extorting/funded Bad Boy, looked out for the ***** while he was in NY. The ***** Pac was told by numerous people stay away from these *****s. Look what they already doing to the *****s at Bad Boy. Don't get caught up. Pac didn't listen. So when it came time for the *****s who looked out for Pac to ask a favor (Sign to Bad Boy) Pac said naw he was cool.

That **** ain't ride with them *****s, they felt they was disrespected, but didn't show they hand yet. Pac meets groupie (who's one of the Brooklyn *****s introduced him too.) He ****s the *****, blah, catches teh rape case. Now know there was 3 or 4 *****s all caught them same case. The ***** who introduced him got his trial separated from Pacs. Now if you know anything about the law that's impossible, unless you cooperating with police, is already an informant, or you took a plea deal. There was no plea deal. So you tell me what you think was going on on that end?

Pac started wilding out calling *****s snitches, and all sorts of **** in public and papers. Remember think on this level, not John Gotti big, but bigger than say Preme are these nigags he talking reckless about. But also these *****s got ties to ***** son the level of John Gotti, black gangsters, white gangsters etc. So Treach and *****s who really held Pac down tried to cool all that ****. Where Pac really ****ed up, was he shoudl've never no matter how bad you needed the money, gone to that studio to go **** with a ***** who heavey with the *****s you got beef with. Pac already saw Puffy and them *****s was knee deep was these *****s. He should've known regardless what his relationship was with the money *****, that you have to keep your guard up during war. So anyways before that Biggie did holla at pac, a couple weeks before the shooting to say watch yourself, but (He wouldn't say who to watchout for.)

Them Bad Boy *****s knew Pac was gonna get hit up that night. Biggie knew Pac was coming to the studio. Biggie didn't say **** because them *****s let be known mind your business, and puff rolling with them *****s he ain't about to bite the hand that protects/feeds him. I don't care where you from, if u rolling with a *****, hanging out chilling at a *****s crib, eating food with the *****. No matter if you ain't the best of hiomies (No Pac and Biggie weren't likE brothers, but they kicked it alot) YOU IS A HOES ASS ***** FOR NOT TELLING A ***** LIKE PAC HE BOUT TO GET WET UP. I DON'T CARE ***** YOU COULDV'E SENT A LINE THROUGH A MUTUAL *****, SOMETHING TO LET PAC KNOW. DO NOT COME TO TEH STUDIO AND WHO THE *****S ARE, TRYING TO GET YOU ****ED UP. I'm a biggie fan and he knew from that day on, he'd have to ride with them *****s the rest of his life, and he could never be forgiven for that.

Back to Quad studio night. Cease hanging out the window showing love, like it's all good. So Pac feeling less cautious. He gets hit up. Stretch got turned out by the *****s and gave Pac up. Str8 up the truth. Pac was mad cuz *****s had no heart. How you not gonna have the heart to tell a ***** at the very least you cool with, man SO AND SO, go hit you tonight don't come through. Damn if any ***** defends this, We all know what cloth you cut from. I'll admit this Puffy in this situation is less culpable and grimey because he never rocked with Pac like that. To him it was ALL BUSINESS AND THIS WAS NONE OF HIS BIZNESS. But Biggie, that;s just grimey son. You lookout and let a ***** know.

Anyways cops on scene (SAME COPS WHO ARRESTED HIM FOR RAPE. COINCIDENCE? NO. DEM *****S HAD CLOUT) Pac taken to hospital. Now to show you what kind of *****s Pac wnet tow ar with. Name me one hospital, that any regular ***** coudl call and get the number of the room you staying in direct phone line number, when you checked in under the name of an alias? No one. Dem *****s was for real. Pac and his *****s got spooked even with Nation of Islam there (They killers but ain't got them thangs on em, feel me?), so they went to other "REAL *****S IN NY" who held Pac down. Remember Pac had *****s like Treach, Freddie Foxxx (who really got street *****s) and Black Panther family from NY. So them *****s knew the right *****s who wouldn't allow him to get touched while he recovering. There's a reason why Pac never said who he went to while recovering (Because he was another Big Time Street ***** in NY, Foxx know him)

Anyways fast forward Pac convicted guilty of sexual abuse (NOT RAPE). Co Defendant, different trial lots of prior felonies, gets probation. What it look like to you? No I actually don't think he a snitch, it was a set up and they knew powerful *****s. Not a set up by prosecution per say, but higher power ups.

No Pac did not get raped in jail, once again he did have "REAL *****S " from the outside who had him covered. Yes they wanted to get him, but they couldn't. What most fo you may not know. Time Warner owned Interscope, the publicity from Deathrow and Pac was putting strain on them, WHITE INVESTORS, SPONSORS AIN'T NEVER SEEN THIS KIND OF **** OUT IN open with crimes and etc. in music before. (Remember out in the open.) So they putting the heat on Iovine, who him and his partner signed 2pac and gave Deathrow power so to speak. Iovine a money man, ain't no way he losing out Deathrow or Pac, so he made biz move.

Pac was Deathrow before he evEr knew he was Deathrow. To appease Time WARNER for the time being, he had to give Pac up. So instead of releasing him he gave him to SUGE (Who always wanted Pac on Deathrow) So when Suge and them at first start coming to Pac to join Deathrow, he was cool on that because he had a relationship with Jimmy Iovine ( they really was cool) and he knew he would lose mad control and dollars if he signed under an imprint like Deathrow to go through Interscope. I won't go into specifics here, (Save that for a future unveiling) But basically Interscope squeezed Pac, till basically he had no choice but to sign with Deathrow, because he needed money and he wanted out of jail. Understand you DO NOT GET A RELEASE FROM ANY LABEL IN ONE DAY OR ONE WEEK. THAT PAPERWORK LONG, WE TALKING WEEKS , REALLY MORE LIKE MONTHS BEFORE A DEAL LIKE A RELEASE FROM INTERSCOPE COULD BE NEGOTIATED AND THEM SIGN OFF, ON A move to another imprint, no matter if Deathrow under Interscope or not. If you ever seen a music Industry contract you know this. (Look at the Lox, Joe Buddens, Game, all them *****s it took months to leave situations.) The only way something like this happens as quickly as it did with pac, is on some MOB/ Extortion ****, which they heavy in the biz obviously, or some SHADY BACKROOM TYPE DEAL.

This move appeases Time Warner for the time being, because it now looks like Interscope is not directly co signing these artists or Labels doing crime or being villified in the newspapers. They can now take a stance of hey we just provide an outlet, like anyone else for these people to get their music out. We are strictly distributors, if you hold us responsible, then BEST BUY, ETC should be also who carry the music. IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING, YOU KNOW AIN'T NO ONE POWERFUL ENOUGH TO GO UP AGAINST BEST BUY, WAL MART, OR ANY CONGLOMERATE LIKE THAT. THAT'S OLD RICH WHITE MONEY WITH TIES TO SO MANY FEDERAL POCKETS, THAT IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN). So now the heat off of Interscope and Time Warners for a little, since they are strictly distributors. (Even though we know better than that. But how may people outside of music Industry do?) At least at the time. So Iovine got best of both worlds now, keeps public face fro Interscope, and keeps one of his most profitable artists and still makes money from Pac and Deathrow. Public Perception is everything, PUFFY WAS MASTER OF THIS DURING THIS TIME. "Real bad Boy's movie in silence"

So he signs with Suge in Jail with Kenner present, a contract that would hold up in no Court of Law. I'm talking No court of law would uphold this CONTRACT. Conflict of INTEREST IS HUGE IN COURTS. YOU CANNOT BE SIGNED TO A *****'S LABEL AND BE UNDER THEIR MANAGEMENT AND BE HELD TO THOSE TERMS. THAT ALONE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. LET ALONE A LAWYER HAVE POWER OF ATTORNEY WHO REPRESENTS THE LABEL OWNER AND THEIR MANAGER. ANY JUDGE VOIDING THAT CONTRACT WITH TERMS LIKE THAT. BECAUSE THERE IS NO CHECKS IN BALANCE FOR WHO IS PROTECTING THE ARTIST'S INTEREST. THE LAWYER ALWAYS GONNA RIDE FOR THE LABEL HEAD, AND THE LABEL HEAD ALWAYS GONNA RIDE FOR HIS POCKETS. Yes this was grimey, but I will say IT WAS GRIMEY BIZ TACTICS, BUT SUGE DID HOLD PAC DOWN AGAINST BAD BOY AND PROVIDE PROTECTION NO ONE ELSE COULD. BUT THAT'S A HUGE PRICE TO ASK. AND NO SUGE, DID NOT, I REPEAT DID NOT KILL PAC. SO STOP WITH THAT BULL**** THEORY. THE STREETS KNOW WHO GOT PAC.

ALRIGHT THAT'S THE FIRST HALF OF THIS STORY. DIGEST READ AND UNDERSTAND AND THEN I WILL POST 2ND HALF OF FACTS OF this STORY.

ANY REAL ***** OR INDUSTRY KAT KNOWS THIS IS 100 PERCENT OF THE TRUTH.

AND YES THIS STORY WAY DEEPER THAN YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE. SO MANY MORE HANDS MANIPULATED AND HELPED/CAUSED WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN PAC & BIG. AND DEATHROW AND BAD BOY. CRAZY IS MOST THESE *****S STILL IN THE INDUSTRY AND OPPOSITE SIDES STILL DO BIZ TOGETHER. SHOWS YOU THEIR NO LOYALTY WHEN IT COME TO THAT PAPER."

Part 2????
 
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MeMyselfNI;1968880 said:
is u serious? lmao the perfest plot/alibi if u will y not b next to the nigga only to have shooters directed to shoot down if u niggas looked at the car u will see that all the shots was directed below the passenger door of the vehicle as to make sure only 2Pac gets hit only time suge was in danger was when he pulled back back when he was trying to hop in the back. yall niggas don't wanna use y'all minds u just wanna eat wat niggas put on y'all plate ..i remember back to about 2005 r 2006 on DJ Whoo Kids radio show when he was on Hot 97 in NY, he had Mack 10 ( not Ice cube's Mack 10 but one of the original Thug Life ) n Whoo Kid ask about the shooting n he said," it was the Bounty Hunters that did it the same nigga that 2Pac shouted out on 2 Live n Die in LA ( Neckbone , Jay heron , bunngy ) n they was on Deathrows payroll . so niggas need 2 quit with that bullshit oh y would u put ur self in danger blah blah blah..suge was in no danger in that car Suge didn't shoot 2Pac n he didn't stab 2Pac but he did KILL 2Pac..just go back n look at that car look at the bullet projectile

I see what u saying. Like I said I watched that Tupac: Assassination DVD & they threw Suge under the bus. 1 of the former policeman/detectives they interviewed basically said if u aim low the bullets had to go threw the door & a human body (Pac's) b4 they could get to Suge. It makes sense but still IDK...
 
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this sum other shit he posted

Okay, it's good too see a lot of peeps in here, up on the "REAL ABOUT THIS ****" I'm gonna write up part 2 tomorrow and it will be way more detailed. But for the moment let me leave you with these thoughts. Back then especially and still now. The music industry is structured similar and run like the Mafia. You got the five Families back then, SONY ( MOTTOLA), CLIVE DAVIS, UNIVERSAL, PRIORITY OWNED BY BRYAN TURNER( THE MAN WHO BESIDES IOVINE OPENED THE DOORS FOR THE WEST COAST), THEN INTERSCOPE, WARNER BROS.

Nothing happened back then without their knowledge. If you give someone Millions of Dollars, no matter how far away you try and make it seem you are part of their business or what they do with the money you invested, you are Culpable if crimes are being committed. Especially if the Federal Government gets involved. If you seen the "WIRE" you understand that money gets funneled back up to someone's pockets somewhere, so no matter how far removed you are from dollar one, you still are making money from an entity that is committing crime. "WHICH CAN BE PROVEN TO MAKE YOU A CRIMINAL CO - CONSPIRATOR UNDER RICO LAWS. That's why it's good when you chase the drugs, but when you chase the money people get concerned. Which was what TIME WARNERS INITIAL FEARS, AND WE'LL COME BACK TO PLAY LATER IN THIS STORY.

Think about it how come when ever there is "A STREET TYPE RAPPER", LabeLs are so quick to hand them an imprint deal to be a so "called boss". You don't see too many rock bands who have as many imprint deals as rappers do you? AND REMEMBER THEY ARE IMPRINTS NOT LABELS. MASTER P, DEATH ROW, BAD BOY AND A FEW OTHERS WERE THE LAST REAL LABELS. The reason is because all that went down with Bad Boy and Death row. In case it goes bad you need to try and be as far removed from these 'STREET *****S" as possible, and "THE MONEY". You don't want no link, because a THE FEDS can trace and dig up enough linking you to maybe not being a direct link to these crimes committed with your money. But they can link you to making a profit off it, and THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL SAY YOU SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT IS BEING DONE WITH YOUR INVESTMENT MONEY. SO IF A ***** LAUNDERING MONEY, OR FUNDING ILLEGAL ****, YOU ARE CULPABLE. But well get into that later. So Labels want to make it look liek these *****s is they own boss, they ARE NOT. THE FIVE FAMILIES STILL PULL ALL STRINGS.

The music Industry is just like the NFL in some ways. They are Billion Dollar Corporations, with TEAMS OF EX- FBI, EX - CIA, COPS AND TOP LAWYERS, who watch everything and know everything that is going on with these rappers , and know who the street players are. They Spend Millions on Intelligence and SECURITY. On top of that, they are backed or friends with some of the Biggest Mobsters, whose names will never be spoken, who's political ties are so powerful, they can make the worst **** go away. Lawyers also are SO POWERFUL IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. DAVID KENNER IS STILL ONE OF THE BADDEST *****S ON THE PLANET. DON'T THINK BECAUSE DEATH ROW WENT DOWN, THAT HE DID. Just look up how he got two biker gang members who didn't have a chance in hell of getting off with a murder in front of a bunch of witnesses. In LA , it was said this was an opened and shut case. KENNER got them off. Look it up it happened a month ago. Kenner was also Maurice Clarett's Lawyer, and advisor while he was out of College football. Do a little research on who he introduced Maurice too in his time of need. You can't **** with a ***** like Kenner, he got files, folders, and secrets on some of the most powerful people you can imagine. HIS TIES ARE DEEP INSIDE THE LAW AND OUTSIDE OF IT. MAD *****S OWE HIM FAVORS. KENNER A MILLION TIMES SCARIER THAN SUGE, OR PUFFY COULD'VE EVER BEEN. IF YOU RESEARCH, JERRY HELLER WASN'T NEAR AS WORRIED ABOUT SUGE AS HE WAS KENNER. THE NFL ALREADY HAD RED FLAGS UP WHEN THEY FOUND OUR CLARETT ROLLED WITH KENNER, ON TOP ALL HIS OTHER ISSUES. THEY DEF WAS GLAD TO SEE CLARETT GONE. Look at some parrels between the NFL and the Music industry. 9In no way am I comparing or saying the NFL has the kind of corruption, of the Music Biz.) But the NFL, HAS EYES EVERYWHERE, WHY YOU THINK THEY HAVE THERE OWN PRIVATE SECURITY TEAM? SO MANY THINGS THAT COULD'VE CAME OUT INVOLVING PLAYERS AND DRAMA, THAT THE NFL HAS SQUASHED BECAUSE OF HOW GOOD THEIR SECURITY TEAM IS. JUST LIKE THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.

Roger Goddel knew Vick was guilty, but still before he even had been charged, brought that ***** in to tell him what was going on, knowing damn well Vick lied to him. He just watched the ***** fall. Believe it or not Vick was better off coming clean with Goddel, so he could've saved his career. NFL SECURITY I RUN, BY EX FBI, EX CIA, AND TOP LAWYERS WHO HAVE INFLUENCE EVERYWHERE. They can diffuse a situation before it becomes bigger than it will if you play ball.

Alright just some things to think about. I'll up a detailed Part 2 tomorrow, that will really open your eyes. I'm glad most of you took the time to really analyze and think about what I'm saying. And it may sound like some ULTRA SECRET CONSPIRACY I'M DROPPING. BUT REALLY IT'S NOT. THERE'S WAY MORE I WON'T SPEAK on, that just is too deep. BUT REALLY ALL THIS KNOWN BY MOST RAPPERS, MUSIC INDUSTRY PEEPS AND ****. IT NOT EXPOSED, CUZ POCKETS DEEP, EVERYONE GOT DIRT ON THEM, OR MAKING MONEY WITH A ***** who you don't want to go down. I won't lie I'd do the same, because unfortunately you gotta cover and watch out for your own ass. THE TRUTH IS SO MANY PEOPLE ARE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF PAC & BIG, AND STAY SILENT TO SAVE THEY OWN ASS. AND IF SOMETHING DO COME OUT, NOTICE WHO QUICKLY IT'S DIFFUSED IN THE PRESS, OR PROVEN TO BE JUST "RUMOUR".

ALRIGHT PART 2 tomorrow.
 
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NuffRespect;1969944 said:
this sum other shit he posted

Okay, it's good too see a lot of peeps in here, up on the "REAL ABOUT THIS ****" I'm gonna write up part 2 tomorrow and it will be way more detailed. But for the moment let me leave you with these thoughts. Back then especially and still now. The music industry is structured similar and run like the Mafia. You got the five Families back then, SONY ( MOTTOLA), CLIVE DAVIS, UNIVERSAL, PRIORITY OWNED BY BRYAN TURNER( THE MAN WHO BESIDES IOVINE OPENED THE DOORS FOR THE WEST COAST), THEN INTERSCOPE, WARNER BROS.

Nothing happened back then without their knowledge. If you give someone Millions of Dollars, no matter how far away you try and make it seem you are part of their business or what they do with the money you invested, you are Culpable if crimes are being committed. Especially if the Federal Government gets involved. If you seen the "WIRE" you understand that money gets funneled back up to someone's pockets somewhere, so no matter how far removed you are from dollar one, you still are making money from an entity that is committing crime. "WHICH CAN BE PROVEN TO MAKE YOU A CRIMINAL CO - CONSPIRATOR UNDER RICO LAWS. That's why it's good when you chase the drugs, but when you chase the money people get concerned. Which was what TIME WARNERS INITIAL FEARS, AND WE'LL COME BACK TO PLAY LATER IN THIS STORY.

Think about it how come when ever there is "A STREET TYPE RAPPER", LabeLs are so quick to hand them an imprint deal to be a so "called boss". You don't see too many rock bands who have as many imprint deals as rappers do you? AND REMEMBER THEY ARE IMPRINTS NOT LABELS. MASTER P, DEATH ROW, BAD BOY AND A FEW OTHERS WERE THE LAST REAL LABELS. The reason is because all that went down with Bad Boy and Death row. In case it goes bad you need to try and be as far removed from these 'STREET *****S" as possible, and "THE MONEY". You don't want no link, because a THE FEDS can trace and dig up enough linking you to maybe not being a direct link to these crimes committed with your money. But they can link you to making a profit off it, and THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL SAY YOU SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT IS BEING DONE WITH YOUR INVESTMENT MONEY. SO IF A ***** LAUNDERING MONEY, OR FUNDING ILLEGAL ****, YOU ARE CULPABLE. But well get into that later. So Labels want to make it look liek these *****s is they own boss, they ARE NOT. THE FIVE FAMILIES STILL PULL ALL STRINGS.

The music Industry is just like the NFL in some ways. They are Billion Dollar Corporations, with TEAMS OF EX- FBI, EX - CIA, COPS AND TOP LAWYERS, who watch everything and know everything that is going on with these rappers , and know who the street players are. They Spend Millions on Intelligence and SECURITY. On top of that, they are backed or friends with some of the Biggest Mobsters, whose names will never be spoken, who's political ties are so powerful, they can make the worst **** go away. Lawyers also are SO POWERFUL IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. DAVID KENNER IS STILL ONE OF THE BADDEST *****S ON THE PLANET. DON'T THINK BECAUSE DEATH ROW WENT DOWN, THAT HE DID. Just look up how he got two biker gang members who didn't have a chance in hell of getting off with a murder in front of a bunch of witnesses. In LA , it was said this was an opened and shut case. KENNER got them off. Look it up it happened a month ago. Kenner was also Maurice Clarett's Lawyer, and advisor while he was out of College football. Do a little research on who he introduced Maurice too in his time of need. You can't **** with a ***** like Kenner, he got files, folders, and secrets on some of the most powerful people you can imagine. HIS TIES ARE DEEP INSIDE THE LAW AND OUTSIDE OF IT. MAD *****S OWE HIM FAVORS. KENNER A MILLION TIMES SCARIER THAN SUGE, OR PUFFY COULD'VE EVER BEEN. IF YOU RESEARCH, JERRY HELLER WASN'T NEAR AS WORRIED ABOUT SUGE AS HE WAS KENNER. THE NFL ALREADY HAD RED FLAGS UP WHEN THEY FOUND OUR CLARETT ROLLED WITH KENNER, ON TOP ALL HIS OTHER ISSUES. THEY DEF WAS GLAD TO SEE CLARETT GONE. Look at some parrels between the NFL and the Music industry. 9In no way am I comparing or saying the NFL has the kind of corruption, of the Music Biz.) But the NFL, HAS EYES EVERYWHERE, WHY YOU THINK THEY HAVE THERE OWN PRIVATE SECURITY TEAM? SO MANY THINGS THAT COULD'VE CAME OUT INVOLVING PLAYERS AND DRAMA, THAT THE NFL HAS SQUASHED BECAUSE OF HOW GOOD THEIR SECURITY TEAM IS. JUST LIKE THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.

Roger Goddel knew Vick was guilty, but still before he even had been charged, brought that ***** in to tell him what was going on, knowing damn well Vick lied to him. He just watched the ***** fall. Believe it or not Vick was better off coming clean with Goddel, so he could've saved his career. NFL SECURITY I RUN, BY EX FBI, EX CIA, AND TOP LAWYERS WHO HAVE INFLUENCE EVERYWHERE. They can diffuse a situation before it becomes bigger than it will if you play ball.

Alright just some things to think about. I'll up a detailed Part 2 tomorrow, that will really open your eyes. I'm glad most of you took the time to really analyze and think about what I'm saying. And it may sound like some ULTRA SECRET CONSPIRACY I'M DROPPING. BUT REALLY IT'S NOT. THERE'S WAY MORE I WON'T SPEAK on, that just is too deep. BUT REALLY ALL THIS KNOWN BY MOST RAPPERS, MUSIC INDUSTRY PEEPS AND ****. IT NOT EXPOSED, CUZ POCKETS DEEP, EVERYONE GOT DIRT ON THEM, OR MAKING MONEY WITH A ***** who you don't want to go down. I won't lie I'd do the same, because unfortunately you gotta cover and watch out for your own ass. THE TRUTH IS SO MANY PEOPLE ARE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF PAC & BIG, AND STAY SILENT TO SAVE THEY OWN ASS. AND IF SOMETHING DO COME OUT, NOTICE WHO QUICKLY IT'S DIFFUSED IN THE PRESS, OR PROVEN TO BE JUST "RUMOUR".

ALRIGHT PART 2 tomorrow.
Yea props was an interesting read, whoever wrote it sound knowledgable but not an un-biased enough opinion for me to swallow. If he does continue, post that shit up here.
 
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Menace.;1968130 said:
Pac's chain wasn't snatched
it was some dudes chain from the Death Row entourage.
yeah i already acknowledged i got that wrong. the shit was so long ago and nigga out here don't discuss the details to much but it's basically common knowledge that Baby Lane killed Pac. It's even said that Lane was killed because he killed Pac
 
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CirocObama;1968408 said:
I forgot but wasn't it Tray Deee who got his chain snatched and jumped?

Anyway this industry shit is beyond corrupt. I dont think i could make it. Not because i'm gullible or anything but because i'd prolly be paranoid and wouldn't wanna fuck with a single person in the biz on some cool shit.

But again errbody know Suge ain't killed 2pac. Suge prolly ganked Pac for alot of his grip but he didn't kill 2pac.

I think shit like this is why these artists keeps having the hood niggas with them in the industry cuz other wise they'll look at you like a sheep. But then their homies ends up turning on 'em..y'all know the same ol' story.

It's sad to see how much bad shit there is in that music/movie game.

it aint just he music game man its life ... on every level ... its just stuff in the music / movie game is promoted ;)
 
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Time for some............
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Yea Suge was responsible for organizing Pacs death, but Suge was only a pawn while the niggas that killed Pac were Suges pawns.

East Coast West Coast was the biggest manufactured beef in rap history. The whole shit was created so that forces controlling the music industry could make it look like ignorant niggas kiledl Pac. The fact is Pac took an oath to be pawns of these same forces like how Suge was. Its clear something changed Pac when he recorded All Eyes on Me, because all his previous albums had been different, no question about it. All his albums were pro black, to pro black so the industry needed him to change before he gained to much influence with the masses. The forces threw Pac in jail (anyone who believes Pac was guilty of that shit has been fooled). Jimmy Iovine first signed Pac to Interscope, and he came out with me against the world. His arm got twisted to change, he like what he was hearing so he got set up. Thats when Suge comes in to bail Pac and give him a new contract to with Dre and Snoop. Pac didn't want to get deeper in after AEOM, so he lashed out and started making killuminati references and also talking about starting a POLITICAL party. A decadent of a Black Panther who wants to create a political party? You better believe he was on the FBI and CIAs radar when he started getting into the limelight and especially after his interest in politics. All eyes on Me sold how many albums and now this nigga is talking about starting a political party and killuminati and talking loosely about forces controlling the industry. They couldn't controll Pac so they got Suge to do it.
 
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CrownChakra;1970142 said:
Time for some............

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Yea Suge was responsible for organizing Pacs death, but Suge was only a pawn while the niggas that killed Pac were Suges pawns.

East Coast West Coast was the biggest manufactured beef in rap history. The whole shit was created so that forces controlling the music industry could make it look like ignorant niggas kiledl Pac. The fact is Pac took an oath to be pawns of these same forces like how Suge was. Its clear something changed Pac when he recorded All Eyes on Me, because all his previous albums had been different, no question about it. All his albums were pro black, to pro black so the industry needed him to change before he gained to much influence with the masses. The forces threw Pac in jail (anyone who believes Pac was guilty of that shit has been fooled). Jimmy Iovine first signed Pac to Interscope, and he came out with me against the world. His arm got twisted to change, he like what he was hearing so he got set up. Thats when Suge comes in to bail Pac and give him a new contract to with Dre and Snoop. Pac didn't want to get deeper in after AEOM, so he lashed out and started making killuminati references and also talking about starting a POLITICAL party. A decadent of a Black Panther who wants to create a political party? You better believe he was on the FBI and CIAs radar when he started getting into the limelight and especially after his interest in politics. All eyes on Me sold how many albums and now this nigga is talking about starting a political party and killuminati and talking loosely about forces controlling the industry. They couldn't controll Pac so they got Suge to do it.

two words sum up this whole post........nigga please

people love to cry out conspiracy instead of being realistic. he stomped a nigga out early in the night, then got killed later in the night....put two and two together
 
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No Competition;1970231 said:
two words sum up this whole post........nigga please

people love to cry out conspiracy instead of being realistic. he stomped a nigga out early in the night, then got killed later in the night....put two and two together

nah itz more then dat
 
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NuffRespect;1970248 said:
nah itz more then dat
how you know? Did YOU shoot the muthafucka or are you just going by that post you posted by another dude on another site? Who is he? you saying the streets here inL.A. is lying? School
 
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Old Fart;1970267 said:
how you know? Did YOU shoot the muthafucka or are you just going by that post you posted by another dude on another site? Who is he? you saying the streets here inL.A. is lying? School

i aint sayin la is lyin i know orlando killed pac im sayin therez more 2 it
 
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NuffRespect;1970306 said:
i aint sayin la is lyin i know orlando killed pac im sayin therez more 2 it
how you know it's more to it. Niggas get killed everyday by trying to one up anotha nigga. Just because it was Pac don't make it any different. Pac got reckless with the wrong muthafuckas and they handled it in a hood way regardless of who he was. But still where you getting it was 'more to it' from. More to it like what? Where you get your info from? school
 
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Old Fart;1970357 said:
how you know it's more to it. Niggas get killed everyday by trying to one up anotha nigga. Just because it was Pac don't make it any different. Pac got reckless with the wrong muthafuckas and they handled it in a hood way regardless of who he was. But still where you getting it was 'more to it' from. More to it like what? Where you get your info from? school

The whole "shoot down human shield" idea is bullshit. Now tell me if you were trying to get a nigga killed would you be sitting next to him hoping the shooters are a good shot? Be realistic. You can say sitting next to him is a perfet alibi blah blah but in reality it is....who in their right mind would sit next to a man in a CAR which is not a lot of space, while they are getting shot? Bullets aint got no name
 
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No Competition;1970231 said:
two words sum up this whole post........nigga please

people love to cry out conspiracy instead of being realistic. he stomped a nigga out early in the night, then got killed later in the night....put two and two together

I am being realistic, but sometimes the most simplest answer is always right. Your just focused on that night when your forgetting everything leading up to the night he got killed. Listen to how paranoid this nigga is in his interviews. He echoes Bun B, Micheal Jackson, Chapplle to some extent. Niggas need to open thier eyes
 
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CrownChakra;1970418 said:
I am being realistic, but sometimes the most simplest answer is always right. Your just focused on that night when your forgetting everything leading up to the night he got killed. Listen to how paranoid this nigga is in his interviews. He echoes Bun B, Micheal Jackson, Chapplle to some extent. Niggas need to open thier eyes

He's paranoid because there is a lot of shady shit going on in the industry. granted..but that dont mean his death was a worldwide presidential conspiracy. Now if you say his killer never being found or the investigation goin south is a conspiracy then i may be able to side with that. But the actualy gunman and shooting was some regular hood shit he got dragged into from thinking he was invinceable.
 
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No Competition;1970376 said:
The whole "shoot down human shield" idea is bullshit. Now tell me if you were trying to get a nigga killed would you be sitting next to him hoping the shooters are a good shot? Be realistic. You can say sitting next to him is a perfet alibi blah blah but in reality it is....who in their right mind would sit next to a man in a CAR which is not a lot of space, while they are getting shot? Bullets aint got no name

Uh i think you're arguin' against the wrong person here dawg. "Old Fart" is sayin' that Orlando killed him, which is 100% true.
 
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CirocObama;1970517 said:
Uh i think you're arguin' against the wrong person here dawg. "Old Fart" is sayin' that Orlando killed him, which is 100% true.

nah im agreeing with him I just quoted the wrong dude by accident
 
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You guys believe Orlando killed him cause the streets said it? The streets is just a ghetto version of broken telephone
 
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