The Official 2pac Versus Biggie Thread...

[skpjr78]

Pac should be compared to rappers like young jeezy,master P,T.I.Pastor Troy etc cuz he got the same skill sets as them

He cant even compare to cats like nas,biggie,rakim,jay -z.They'd rap circles around this nigga

its a reason that white, crossover, pop culture embraces and vouches for gay-z, nas, and them other niggas. it is mutually beneficial. these cartoon ass niggas are safe and they pose no threat. the vp of the usa made pac a sworn enemy b/c he had the history, the lineage, the power, the heart, and the talent to be a problem. big was just another nigga. pac wiped the floor with big and the entire east coast. big was every1's protector on the east coast and when pac tore him limb from limb them other pussy niggas gay-z, mop, nas, etc they all bowed down. pac dismantled the entire east coast and made a mockery out of everything that big tried 2 do. this shit isnt even up 4 discussion. any1 who disagrees with pure fact is either an east cast hater who is allergic to the truth, a commercialized pop culture, mtv, dick ridin ass homo, or is just stupid. comparing pac to big is like comparing jordan to pippen. it isnt even worth discussing.

btw no disrespect 2 rakim. i have him and pac listed 1 and 1a on my goat list.

 

[Dretox2010]

Thats what seperates the best from the average

Emotion, passion, message and personal content

 

[TRILLip Brooks]

Thats what seperates the best from the average

Emotion, passion, message and personal content

question stanley, does eminem have that?

 

[Dretox2010]

To even put people like Jay Z in the same sentence as 2pac let alone even think about comparing them is crazy real crazy

 

[Dretox2010]

question stanley, does eminem have that?

That's why he is my fave Artist he is the most emotional & personal and touches on different topics about life experiences people go through everyday the passion, emotion & message seperates him from others

That's what 2pac had too

 

[a_list]

what is the 1 thing that big, nas, and gay-z all have in common? they were all CRUSHED by pac MULTIPLE times!!!!!!! pac dismantled them pussy niggas and all they could do was ride his nutz like some scurned love sick groupie hoes!!! after pac crushed nas on the realest shit i ever wrote that lame spent the next 5 years ridin pac's dick and trying to make peace with a dead man. big knew to keep his fucking mouth closed. he knew that pac had the 411 on his entire fake ass wanna be frank white ass career and knew that pac could shut him down at any second. puff and faith knew that shit to so they just suck the fuck. what does that say about ur life, career, and persona when your WIFE makes a song and in all probalility fucked a nigga who is ur sworn enemy??? that measn to me that ur own WIFE doesnt even believe that fake shit that u spittin. wtf part of the game is that?????? and gay-z. that fag nigga pulled the ultimate hip-hop bitch move when he took pac's soldier anthem and turned it into a corny ass love song about some r&b bitch.

u young niggas need to do ur fucking homework. just b/c mtv, radio, and a whole bunch of white people told u that gay-z and them other niggas was dope and goats or whatever doesnt make it so. real niggas who were around during the 90's and actually knew what happened know better.

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^^^Real Shit^^^

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^^^Gay ass east coast bullshit^^^

is there any question as to who really won?????????????? its disrespectful to compare these weak ass, commercialized ass, crossover, fake niggas to pac. do ur homework youngens. dont believe everything that mtv, radio, and pop culture tells u. learn to think 4 urself. some shit is to fucking obvious to even dispute u stupid mothafuckas.

lol yo to typing all that bs but ignoring the fact that just about everybody that pac dissed was better than him....only cats he mightve been better then was pras, lil cease, diddy and maybe lil kim......nobody can influence my opinion im not new to this shyt....if we talkin bout emceein ya boy was average, emotions was his strong point and i guess thats wat got u hooked..

 

[Dretox2010]

Kid Cudi is someone from the new batch of Artists that has that emotional & raw passion in his Music now i wouldnt compare him to 2pac yet but you can say both are personal both are very introperspective so you can say ok atleast the similarities are obvious

B.I.G. & Jay Z and them are spitters who predominantly Rap about hustling not what i think of as Artists

 

[kingblaze84]

No one honestly comes close to Pac.

 

[kingblaze84]

I still listen to 2pac's Albums to this day

I cant remember the last time i played Ready To Die or Life After Death

Sad to say but the same goes for me. I love Biggie but his music is kind of shallow compared to Pac. God bless him either way.

 

[skpjr78]

lol yo to typing all that bs but ignoring the fact that just about everybody that pac dissed was better than him....only cats he mightve been better then was pras, lil cease, diddy and maybe lil kim......nobody can influence my opinion im not new to this shyt....if we talkin bout emceein ya boy was average, emotions was his strong point and i guess thats wat got u hooked..

fuck r u talking about nigga. pac influenced, shaped, and molded biggies entire career. pac did more for that nigga that puff ever did. pac used to let that nigga open for him when no1 in nyc knew who the fuck he was. on top of that big stole all of pac's shit. pac had to remake me against the world b/c big jacked and bit the fuck out of it. that fat nigga was biting pac's entire career and image. thats why pac mashed on him so hard b/c he knew what big was and what he wasnt. even big's mom knows that half the shit that nigga said was a lie. i saw multiple interviews of her where she said that big was saying shit to hype of his image and be more like pac. he was stealing stories from pac and trying to put his name and image on it. this shit is fact nigga.

and as far as better rhymes pac ate that nigga up. corny ass commercial niggas like gay-z, nas and them would drop hints. pac would drop ur whole fucking name and dare u 2 respond. he crushed them dudes man. there is no debate about this shit. he tore them niggas limb from limb. every real nigga w/ears knows the difference between pac, big, gay-z, nas, etc. this shit isnt even up for discussion. pac crushed yall niggas and he raped circles around them!!!!! he had more material, more substance, a better flow, realer shit. thiis shit was never even up for debate. 2+2=4, water is wet, and pac was clearly better than big. no debate

pac>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>big

 

[Dretox2010]

Sad to say but the same goes for me. I love Biggie but his music is kind of shallow compared to Pac. God bless him either way.

2pac was ahead of his time Musically he kept it simple got straight to the point in his Lyrics but made sure the Music was powerful enough to move people

 

[a_list]

fuck r u talking about nigga. pac influenced, shaped, and molded biggies entire career. pac did more for that nigga that puff ever did. pac used to let that nigga open for him when no1 in nyc knew who the fuck he was. on top of that big stole all of pac's shit. pac had to remake me against the world b/c big jacked and bit the fuck out of it. that fat nigga was biting pac's entire career and image. thats why pac mashed on him so hard b/c he knew what big was and what he wasnt. even big's mom knows that half the shit that nigga said was a lie. i saw multiple interviews of her where she said that big was saying shit to hype of his image and be more like pac. he was stealing stories from pac and trying to put his name and image on it. this shit is fact nigga.

and as far as better rhymes pac ate that nigga up. corny ass commercial niggas like gay-z, nas and them would drop hints. pac would drop ur whole fucking name and dare u 2 respond. he crushed them dudes man. there is no debate about this shit. he tore them niggas limb from limb. every real nigga w/ears knows the difference between pac, big, gay-z, nas, etc. this shit isnt even up for discussion. pac crushed yall niggas and he raped circles around them!!!!! he had more material, more substance, a better flow, realer shit. thiis shit was never even up for debate. 2+2=4, water is wet, and pac was clearly better than big. no debate

pac>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>big

lol im a real nigga with ears and pac said some basic shyt that got some stans hype...called a fat dude fat and cats like you thought that shyt was dope come on son...."junior mafia some marc as bitches" lol one liner of all time....if pac is better than these dudes how do you judge emcees? chino xl ripped ya boy prodigy and hav ripped son dude was to basic to compete with cats what dont you understand about basic son.....lol ar pac rappin circles around anybody....lol every rhyme he said had bits and pieces of previous rhymes in it.....how many times did dude kick up dust, enemy hennessy, older colder shoulder, mama told me, imma soldier....yo I was helpin my lil cousins with they glossary words the other day and now that i thing about it, i couldve put together a pac rhyme with them words

 

[kingblaze84]

If rap music has to give you hope then you need therapy/psycho evaluations.Its certain songs I can relate to but I dont get hope and help getting through the day cuz of it

Lmao @ pac fans being depressed, suicidal,alcoholics just like him now it makes sense

Why can't 2pac fans just be great fans of the music? If music doesn't help give you hope for a better day, good for you, no need to judge others (most people in general) who do feel inspired by 2pac's music.

Even the pope put a 2pac song on an official Vatican music list last year.

 

[juelz21]

lol im a real nigga with ears and pac said some basic shyt that got some stans hype...called a fat dude fat and cats like you thought that shyt was dope come on son...."junior mafia some marc as bitches" lol one liner of all time....if pac is better than these dudes how do you judge emcees? chino xl ripped ya boy prodigy and hav ripped son dude was to basic to compete with cats what dont you understand about basic son.....lol ar pac rappin circles around anybody....lol every rhyme he said had bits and pieces of previous rhymes in it.....how many times did dude kick up dust, enemy hennessy, older colder shoulder, mama told me, imma soldier....yo I was helpin my lil cousins with they glossary words the other day and now that i thing about it, i couldve put together a pac rhyme with them words

lol at chino xl murking pac breh you are embrassing yourself with this and losing credibility with this

 

[skpjr78]

i understand the ny state of mind thing and all that. i know that nyc with the yankees and being the medi capital of the world feel like yall have to win and be #1 at everything. i even understand that nyc created hip-hop and yall feel as though nobody outside of the 5 borroughs can be the goat. but there is no way that u guys can compare big to pac let alone say that big was better. i know that u dudes will be build all types of arguements and come up with all types of bullshit to try to give big the title but come on man. this shit is as clear as distilled and purified holy water. seriously man. big was never on pac's level and he never even came close. i know that yall caught feelings over the east/west thing but be serious man there is no way that u can even compare big to pac. pac was so much better on so many different levels. come on man. let big rest on piece man. he tried to hold the crown for nyc but another new yorker who was forced to claim th ewest coast b/c of a bunch of haters was clearly the goat.

im not even sure if big makes my top 5. maybe he does but he isnt even close to my top 3 let alone #1. come on people. lets be serious. put down all the hate, all the commercialism, and the regional bias. listen to the music. big was a great mc but pac was clearly better.

im from atl and i grew up loving dominique wilkins. the hawks broke my heart the day they traded 'nique and thats why i havent been a hawks fan since. but as much as i loved dominique michael jordan was clearly a better player. as much as u love big pac was clearly a better rapper. there is no debating this.

just stop it man. thats like comparing a cadillac to a bently. it just dopesnt compare. big was good but pac was clearly much much much better. it would be a waste of time to list all of the different reasons that pac was better. stop trying to make big out 2 be something that he never was. yall hyped him into that east/west shit and all u acomplished was getting him killed. stop hyping him into another L from the grave. just accept facts for what they are. pac was clearly a better *fill in the blank* than big. clearly

 

[skpjr78]

lol im a real nigga with ears and pac said some basic shyt that got some stans hype...called a fat dude fat and cats like you thought that shyt was dope come on son...."junior mafia some marc as bitches" lol one liner of all time....if pac is better than these dudes how do you judge emcees? chino xl ripped ya boy prodigy and hav ripped son dude was to basic to compete with cats what dont you understand about basic son.....lol ar pac rappin circles around anybody....lol every rhyme he said had bits and pieces of previous rhymes in it.....how many times did dude kick up dust, enemy hennessy, older colder shoulder, mama told me, imma soldier....yo I was helpin my lil cousins with they glossary words the other day and now that i thing about it, i couldve put together a pac rhyme with them words

lol at chino xl murking pac breh you are embrassing yourself with this and losing credibility with this

exactly. i stopped reading that bullshit after that.

 

[kingblaze84]

2pac was ahead of his time Musically he kept it simple got straight to the point in his Lyrics but made sure the Music was powerful enough to move people

You know the crazy shit about 2pac? He was ahead of his time by years, and he's still ahead of this time too. I've yet to hear anyone be as diverse in subject matter and depth as 2pac is in his songs.

Most rappers these days talk about the same shit over and over again.....cars, women, money, which is all cool but we got bigger issues than that going on.

2pac is one of the few that always talked about issues that affect the world, not just the party and bullshit stuff.

 

[mrrealone]

They were bout neck and neck to me. Whoever won that competition didnt win by much....

 

[a_list]

i understand the ny state of mind thing and all that. i know that nyc with the yankees and being the medi capital of the world feel like yall have to win and be #1 at everything. i even understand that nyc created hip-hop and yall feel as though nobody outside of the 5 borroughs can be the goat. but there is no way that u guys can compare big to pac let alone say that big was better. i know that u dudes will be build all types of arguements and come up with all types of bullshit to try to give big the title but come on man. there shit is as clear as distilled and purified holy water. seriously man. big was never on pac's level and he never even came close. i know that yall caught feelings over the east/west thing but be serious man there is no way that u can even compare big to pac. pac was so much better on so many different levels. come on man. let big rest on piece man. he tried to hold the crown for nyc but another new yorker who was forced to claim th ewest coast b/c of a bunch of haters was clearly the goat.

im not even sure of big makes my top. maybe he does but he isnt even close to my top 3 let alone #1. come on people. lets be serious. put down all the hate, all the commercialism, and the regional bias. listen to the music. big was a great mc buut pac was clearly better. im from atl and i grew up loving dominique but jordan was clearly a better player. pac was clearly a better rapper. just stop it man. thats like comparing a cadillac to a bently. it just dopesnt compare. big was good but pac was clearly much much much better. it would be a waste of time to list all of the different reasons that pac was better. stop trying to make big out 2 be something that he never was. yall hyped him into that east/west shit and all u acomplished was getting him killed. stop hyping him into another L from the grave. just accept facts for what they are. pac was clearly a better *fill in the blank* than big. clearly

let me put you on to a lil something....even before the east/west beef i wasnt a fan of pac...he made a few songs that i liked but sun was never anything special to me.....it aint even about where ya from homey if we're talking about emceeing ya boy is far from the best you should stick to that best artist shyt that yall cats be throwing out there....i'll say this paul pierce is my favorite player in the nba, is he the best no to me that kobe..now when it comes to emceein you can apply that same logic to ya boy he's ya fav but he's far from the best at it...with that said i'm done...lol

 

[juelz21]

let me put you on to a lil something....even before the east/west beef i wasnt a fan of pac...he made a few songs that i liked but sun was never anything special to me.....it aint even about where ya from homey if we're talking about emceeing ya boy is far from the best you should stick to that best artist shyt that yall cats be throwing out there....i'll say this paul pierce is my favorite player in the nba, is he the best no to me that kobe..now when it comes to emceein you can apply that same logic to ya boy he's ya fav but he's far from the best at it...with that said i'm done...lol

breh u have no credibility u think chino xl destroyed pac lyrically.