The Official 2pac Versus Biggie Thread...

[thecomebacklegend]

pac was right bout these hating nyc bitch niggas

 

[gee757]

that bitch flex is outta his mind if he thinkz tupac brought mo negative energy 2 rap than that hatin azz house nigga cuuurly smh..like flex really deservez a beat down fa that BIG CONTRADICTION!

 

[5th Letter]

he has no merit until he pulls the two dicks he has been suckin for 10 years....one who did far worse than pac in terms of negativity

he pulled one nigga up who did more positive than 90% of the game and praises the against his "peaceful" persona...

it was hate, goin at the fans was also hate...

who did more positive than 90% of the rap game? tupac? anyway like i said flex was hypocritical everyone has had hypocritical moments in life, but what he said had merits whether you wanna admit it or not.

 

[thesynthesis]

who did more positive than 90% of the rap game? tupac? anyway like i said flex was hypocritical everyone has had hypocritical moments in life, but what he said had merits whether you wanna admit it or not.

"HAD" , however he still "has" and continues to do so

which makes what he said hate as he continues to support 50cent and his beefs and any other beef that kicks off in the game

to have any merit he has to denounce everything, everything

until then everyone minus you and handful of people will believe its hate

 

[5th Letter]

"HAD" , however he still "has" and continues to do so

which makes what he said hate as he continues to support 50cent and his beefs and any other beef that kicks off in the game

to have any merit he has to denounce everything, everything

until then everyone minus you and handful of people will believe its hate

i feel like i'm talking to a wall so you got it synthesis.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

Fazeem I know you remember the situation well, dont you think after Hit em up it was only gonna end messy?

I knew after Suge's Man Got Shot shit would only get worse and that happened before Pac went to DeathRow, After reading the interviews From Puffy and Biggie while Pac was Locked Down and hearing what Pac had to say I feel he was bit too nice on Hit Em Up. Dude was being extorted into signing to Bad Boy By Black Mafia(Not BMF they are 2 seperate entities unlike what is being perpetuated) he said no and was wetted up in a secure building where most of BadBoy was at. How else should he have responded knowing that the people who got at him were directly connected to those Niggaz? Suge and Pac aligned because of Mutual Enemies and Benefit Suge never needed to push anything Pac was already to go once he found out who did what and why. Who Shot ya whenever it was recorded was Icing on the cake and declaration of war so he went for niggaz heads. What would you have done in his position would you be quiet or go all out against those that wronged you and whoever they were working with and for or would you hide and hush your mouth like a scared bitch afraid to say what you know and feel???

 

[thesynthesis]

i feel like i'm talking to a wall so you got it synthesis.

u are a known big fan like funk flex, so the brick wall theory applies to u hommie, also seeing as u are the 5-6 people on this planet defending flex shud tell u something

 

[5th Letter]

u are a known big fan like funk flex, so the brick wall theory applies to u hommie, also seeing as u are the 5-6 people on this planet defending flex shud tell u something

i said we all have hypocritical moments you capitalize 'had' like that means anything. then you keep bringing up 50 cent which i already explained to you that flex was front and center when 50 was going at people. so by your logic pac was a hypocrite.

 

[Stew]

i said we all have hypocritical moments you capitalize 'had' like that means anything. then you keep bringing up 50 cent which i already explained to you that flex was front and center when 50 was going at people. so by your logic pac was a hypocrite.

Yea but our moments arent spread over the radio to millions of people. He was wrong either way.

 

[5th Letter]

Yea but our moments arent spread over the radio to millions of people. He was wrong either way.

it was how he said it was the problem, if he dont like pac he dont like pac. however it was unnecessary to bring up pac in the first place but he was caught in the moment.

 

[hrap-120]

I knew after SUges Man Got Shot shit would only get worse and that happened before Pac went to DeathRow, After reading the interviews From Puffy and Biggie while Pac awas Locked Down and haering what pac had to say I feel he was bit too nice on Hit Em Up. Dude was being extorted into signing to Bad Boy By Black Mafia(Not BMF they are 2 seperate entities unlike what is being perpetuated) he said no and was wetted up in a secure building where most of BadBoy was at. How else should have responded knowing that the people who got at him were directly connected to those Niggaz? Suge and Pac aligned because of Mutual Enemies and Benefit Suge never needed to push anything Pac was already to go once he found out who did what and why. Who Shot ya whenever it was recorded was Icing on the cake and declaration of war so he went for niggaz heads. What would you have done in his position would you be quiet or go all out against those that wronged you and whoever they were working with and for or would you hide and hush your mouth like a scared bitch afraid to say what you know and feel???

They go into hiding like cowards of course...most of them are already in hiding anyway.

 

[DatNiggaB1]

I knew after SUges Man Got Shot shit would only get worse and that happened before Pac went to DeathRow, After reading the interviews From Puffy and Biggie while Pac awas Locked Down and haering what pac had to say I feel he was bit too nice on Hit Em Up. Dude was being extorted into signing to Bad Boy By Black Mafia(Not BMF they are 2 seperate entities unlike what is being perpetuated) he said no and was wetted up in a secure building where most of BadBoy was at. How else should have responded knowing that the people who got at him were directly connected to those Niggaz? Suge and Pac aligned because of Mutual Enemies and Benefit Suge never needed to push anything Pac was already to go once he found out who did what and why. Who Shot ya whenever it was recorded was Icing on the cake and declaration of war so he went for niggaz heads. What would you have done in his position would you be quiet or go all out against those that wronged you and whoever they were working with and for or would you hide and hush your mouth like a scared bitch afraid to say what you know and feel???

Jus a quick one but didn't Who Shot come out after hit em up?

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

Tim Dog Started it , Puffy Pushed it Further and Pac and Suge just went at those that had pissed them off. The west retaliated we did not start shit...

Again, as I see it Pac's beef with Biggie and the rest of Bad Boy had very little to do with Suge. I think Suge is crooked and as shady as label owners can get but I'm sure the most he did was instigate here and there. Let's not forget Pac is the one who called Suge up and said he wanted to join DeathRow.

Your biased, which is not your fault but this is true.

LOL it is not about Bias it is facts we on the west were showing mad Love to the east and some of it was showing it back but then the Main Establishment Was getting jealous of the West Coast Rise Songs Like TIm DOgs Fuck Compton came out Dj's Like flex were talking slick and playing as little as possible of records that were at the top of the nation wide charts because they were West Coast Songs, Puffys People harmed Suges People, Puffys People Harmed Pac and the west said Fuck it and started hitting back at part of the east and others kept Jumping in Not realizing that we still were showing Love to those showing us Love. All Truth brother no Bias regardless of how I feel about some kats from NY any given Day My favorite HipHop artist is From NYC and Half of My Top 12 are from the eastcoast So I speak from a standpoint of non hypocrisy just honest observations from having lived through that time frame and been a active part of the culture then and now...

Fazeem I know you remember the situation well, dont you think after Hit em up it was only gonna end messy?

I knew after Suge's Man Got Shot shit would only get worse and that happened before Pac went to DeathRow, After reading the interviews From Puffy and Biggie while Pac was Locked Down and hearing what Pac had to say I feel he was bit too nice on Hit Em Up. Dude was being extorted into signing to Bad Boy By Black Mafia(Not BMF they are 2 seperate entities unlike what is being perpetuated) he said no and was wetted up in a secure building where most of BadBoy was at. How else should he have responded knowing that the people who got at him were directly connected to those Niggaz? Suge and Pac aligned because of Mutual Enemies and Benefit Suge never needed to push anything Pac was already to go once he found out who did what and why. Who Shot ya whenever it was recorded was Icing on the cake and declaration of war so he went for niggaz heads. What would you have done in his position would you be quiet or go all out against those that wronged you and whoever they were working with and for or would you hide and hush your mouth like a scared bitch afraid to say what you know and feel???

They go into hiding like cowards of course...most of them are already in hiding anyway.

Jus a quick one but didn't Who Shot come out after hit em up?

Quick Answer is No it was 1995 b-side to Big Poppa...

 

[jek]

It wasn't just Pac and Big. It was Mobb Deep, Kurupt, Capone N Nore, Fugees, Westside Connection, Jeru The Damaga and a few others in the mix in some forms or another. East Vs West was gonna pop off it's just once Pac and Big got involed they became the Magic vs Jordan of the shit.

 

[a_list]

suge said that shyt at the source awards and it went down from there....pac blamed bad boy for the shooting or said they knew about it and then went on a tirade dissing de la, the fugees, big, nas, jayz mobb deep etc the fans for followin this bs radio/tv and every rapper that tried to take advantage of the situation

 

[louevilslugga]

personally i blame suge. listen to all eyez on me, pac only dissed biggie a couple times on that album and it wasnt nothin major. later on pac made hit em up and a lot of other records that we didnt hear until later on. if pac was really that angry with big when he got out of jail i think there would have been a lot more material aimed at big and bad boy released at that time. i think suge gassed pac up because he know how he was. suge did it to make money, he didnt plan on anybody getting killed but he knew controversy would sell.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

personally i blame suge. listen to all eyez on me, pac only dissed biggie a couple times on that album and it wasnt nothin major. later on pac made hit em up and a lot of other records that we didnt hear until later on. if pac was really that angry with big when he got out of jail i think there would have been a lot more material aimed at big and bad boy released at that time. i think suge gassed pac up because he know how he was. suge did it to make money, he didnt plan on anybody getting killed but he knew controversy would sell.

Yeah your young I bet. Pac was going to go at them with or with out Suge, Pac Got Shot By People associated With bad Boy and so Did Suges homeboy who also Died in atlanta all before Pac Signed to DeathRow. As for the tracks they were leaking left and roght out here on the best coast we Knoew how Pac Felt if anything Suge kept a lid on how much material going at Biggie and the east artists that backed him made it out the studio. You kats have been miseducated by a media that wants Suge to be the scapegoat when he and the rest of the west were just retaliating not instigating...

 

[jpcrack]

That beef was entertaining but shouldnt have happen....I blame Suge( Source Awards) Diddy Vibe Mag, MTV, Radio.....but real Talk Pac actions in Vegas got him Murked not that Beef.....Orlando Anderson......

 

[Wishbone Jones]

this is wat it sounds like...when we ride on our enemiez

 

[jpcrack]

It was all good back in the day..............

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