beenwize;6403276 said:zombie;6403260 said:beenwize;6403212 said:zombie;6403202 said:beenwize;6403066 said:zombie;6402805 said:Anansi;6402458 said:beenwize;6402435 said:Anansi;6402425 said:zombie;6402318 said:I think @Anansi you are forgetting that the god of israel is also a god of war and the people of cannan deserved killing they practiced all manner of evil. Notice how softer god was on the egyptians when compared to how he punished the the cannanities
But isn't he the same god in the bible? The "let there be light" god? The "i'm the alpha and omega" god? Or there are two gods in the bible?
Based on my research it seems to be 2 gods in the Bible.
The house i was born into required that i read the bible, now obviously as a kid, i read it without thinking too much of it. I read it again and for the last time towards the latter part of my teen years and i equally came to that realization...the old testament exodus movement god was a jealous, scornful, war mongrel and advocate of anything violent....the other god comes in and says something along the lines of I am a merciful god etc etc. Which ones are christians worshipping?
They are the same GOD but you have to understand that God in the old testament is dealing with mankind from the perspective of "THE STATE". The creation and maintance of israel as a state and it's history is what most of the old testament is dealing with. Israel had to survive, it's laws and treatment of others seemed harsh to us but it was all for the good of all mankind. The laws of israel were soft compared to the laws of the other nations at the time. Google SCAPHISM or the bronze bull and you'll see what i mean.
Think about it if god had allowed all of israel to fall off into baal worship then we don't have jesus and everything in the old testament builds up to jesus.
The new testament is about god dealing with " YOU" as an individual as a member of the human family.
I really don't understand your logic. You say god was dealing with a state in the Old Testament so therefore that justifies him ordering the deaths of millions of people. If you think that's how you deal with a nation of people then would you have a problem with the governments of this world handling business in this manner? Killing people based off of worship? If there is only 1 god in existence according to the Bible then why is it a need to kill someone worshipping another god if that god that they worship really does NOT exist anyway?
You don't understand.
god was ensuring the survival of israel the state and when states go to war people are killed this is how it is right now today and back then, also millions is an over exaggeration.
read the bible god did not simply destroy those nations based on their worship of false gods he destroyed them because they were leading israel into their evil practices. And some attacked israel
These people worshiped there gods through child sacrfice temple prostitution and beastialty. They would act out there myths so in other words if there god fucked a goat they had to fuck a goat.
Didn't god ask Abraham to offer his own son as a burnt offering and wasn't Abraham attempting to do just that? As we see Abraham didn't hesitate to offer his own son as a burnt offering to god. These other nations you speak of sacrificed there children so what's the difference? Do you think they knew whether or not they worshipped a false god or not?
Genesis 22:2-3
2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.
3 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and saddled his ass, and took two of his young men with him, and Isaac his son, and clave the wood for the burnt offering, and rose up, and went unto the place of which God had told him.
The difference is god did not let abraham actually do it. they could have worshipped any god they wanted to but when they started leading israel astray or attacking israel they made a very bad mistake
It does not matter if god stopped him. He was doing the same evil thing you say the other nations were doing.
It does matter in the old testament god judged you on what you DO, NOT WHAT YOU MIGHT DO.