Tell the truth: Do you think Southern rappers and fans are dumber than you?

[soul rattler]

Come on Man.......U soft duke.......the sentence u quoted did u ever stop and realize that i used commas......... think man use your brain......

and lets be more serious........ so when i post i should use proper punctuation or people will think less of me....come on duke....u soft for this one...

look in the mirror soul rattler.....im not a average ICer......im a real dude......im a actually person.....im not a internet zombie.....if u get my drift...

u should relate to that more......are u fucking serious.......proper punctuation in a thread......lol.....Soul Rattler....after this post.....i think i may just log off...

i dont think im built for the IC........ these niggas are just to critical......lol......

Chill man, like I said, I'm not dissing you. I agree with what you were saying for the most part, but playing devil's advocate, you.....can't......deny......that.......your.......punctuation..........is........terrible.......and........for........someone.....repping..........7th Ward...........it.........certainly...........perpetuates...........the...........stereotype......of...........Southerners.........being.......less.......intelligent. Now, I'm not about to argue with you about it because it honestly doesn't bother me. You're posting in my thread regardless and your contribution has substance to it. Let's just keep it moving with the conversation. No need to huff and puff about you being a real nigga. I could care less, I was simply pointing out the obvious.

 

[7thwardslim]

This is a pretty DEEP thread to say the least!

I always felt the south (and other parts of the country) wanted to share in the hip hop experience, but their stories was radically different than the NY-style of hip hop. Although the grind and the passion was their, the linguistics and slang was completely separated.

So, I wouldn't necessarily say that the north is smarter; I think the south is just expressing what it knows... and that is the centerpiece of hip hop- expression.

The one thing that personally bothers me is the lack of lyricism; the rhymes styles are pretty amateurish indeed. No depth in their vocals abilities or skill level. Just ride the music and bounce....

The north was all about the delivery, but even here, these young cats are lost; they have changed the art of battlin to some dumb down BS that is useless and irrelevant.

One of my pet peeves is seeing a rapper rhyme over his own lyrics on stage... wtf? How can a rapper lip sync is own music? What ever happened to instrumentals or show music? Now, its like.. play the CD from FYI and we'll just rap over it!! UGH!!

I think u have a point, but as a southern i will respond like this. Down South yes we have a totally different linguistics and slang.....same as Great Britan.....or Aussies

u cant make the arguement of who is smarten the who based on how they pronouce they words.......dont get me wrong southerns are not the most educated people...

but that dont mean that northerns are smarter by default......if that makes any sense......but my point is this......1 word

Original............the reason we are so different from you guys.......is the simple fact....that we strive hard not to be like you guys.....

Down this way u get clowned for trying to imitate East Coast shit......same as the West im assuming, niggas have they own culture and they own style....

nobody want to be like New Yorkers.......nobody want to sound like new yorkers.....nobody want to dress like new yorkers.......and we damn sure dont want to rap

like new yorkers........this is a complex that southerns have.......we are Anti-East Coast........ Timberlands stay on the shelf......we dont wear boots...just because new yorker like boots......we so different as people......i dont know why....but the divide is there......back in the day people was people and i believe in the early days if rap....

New Yorkers wasnt as arrogant or self centered.......but like i said......New Yorkers have made it bad for themselves........down south we are known for what Southern Hospitality...... we treat people with respect and show love to people.......we dont have the high strung attitude.....the men down here are not attention whores, who feel the need to dress flyer then all the females......we are like oil and water just dont mix........u can tell a east coast nigga whenever he down south...... he look like a scared little bitch to even open his mouth.....and let that funny ass new york accent out......because he will be the laughin stock.....just like we sound funny.....what make yall think yall dont sound funny to our ears we are human nigga

 

[thehonorable]

Im glad those arguing that list off southern rappers homie brought up has never heard those artists.

I will take those 10 for the breadth of subject matter and depth and flow over those 20 MC's niggas named from NY. Easy.

 

[Wishbone Jones]

southhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[soul rattler]

Im glad those arguing that list off southern rappers homie brought up has never heard those artists.

I will take those 10 for the breadth of subject matter and depth and flow over those 20 MC's niggas named from NY. Easy.

What about the second list posted?

 

[a_list]

damn this shyt still poppin off, huh....yo cats wilding i aint even that big on bun b but maino being better than dude is crazy.....i think up north we're exposed to more as far as smarter, really cant say...some say that music is just entertainment to them and they're entertained by the basics while others want to hear more creative shyt.....like some have stated doctors, lawyers etc prolly bump gucci and we know that they cant be dumb but they can be entertained by that shyt

 

[7thwardslim]

I swear yall make NY more important than it is and im born and Raised New Yorker.... Anytime it's eastcoast vs south it ends up being NY vs south.... and the fact that yall have a campaign of being Anti East Coast just proves that maybe we're actually more important than we think.....

It has always been NY vs _________________ thats always........ niggas are anti-East Coast because East coast is Anti-South...... simple as that...

i stated in a earlier post.....that back in the days it was like that.......u never heard Run DMC diss the south.......u never Cold Crush diss the south

U never Rakim diss the south.......I understand niggas have the 5's and God Body and Muslims......to me thats one of the main reasons.....because he we have niggas Down here teaching the 5 percent lingo.....and have Muslims down here......talking about not eating pork.......i understand its only a belief system....and i have no problem with a

black man thinking he God...... shit like i told them Muslim niggas.....i could care less if God looked exactly like me.......or looked like a bum off the streets....... u understand what im saying Gen......u know the talk.....so believe i know the talk and im well versed in the talk.....but its something deep rooted that as black people something have fell off the charts where we feel we are better then others......and lead to the point where we were conquered and divided as peoples....... i cant say when maybe it started with Martin Vs Malcolm......i dont know.....but for some reason Up north you guys feel yall are superior to folks down south, and yall express that........and i was showing u guys...

the only difference we have is not walking in you guys footsteps.......i dont know....maybe if we mimic and follow suite and carbon copy everything East Coasters do this would be a better hip hop game......but now the tables are turning....because all the New Yorkers are rapping like southerns and rappin over southern beats......

its sickening to my stomach to hear a East coast artist, talk down on the south.....and then turn around and kick a written (freestyle) over the hottest south beats and sound like he just stepped off a plane from ATL...... like is yall niggas confused......didnt u just diss this nigga....but u turn around and rap over his beat....and use his flow but he whack........amazing..........

 

[son of 1973]

I think u have a point, but as a southern i will respond like this. Down South yes we have a totally different linguistics and slang.....same as Great Britan.....or Aussies

u cant make the arguement of who is smarten the who based on how they pronouce they words.......dont get me wrong southerns are not the most educated people...

but that dont mean that northerns are smarter by default......if that makes any sense......but my point is this......1 word

Original............the reason we are so different from you guys.......is the simple fact....that we strive hard not to be like you guys.....

Down this way u get clowned for trying to imitate East Coast shit......same as the West im assuming, niggas have they own culture and they own style....

nobody want to be like New Yorkers.......nobody want to sound like new yorkers.....nobody want to dress like new yorkers.......and we damn sure dont want to rap

like new yorkers........this is a complex that southerns have.......we are Anti-East Coast........ Timberlands stay on the shelf......we dont wear boots...just because new yorker like boots......we so different as people......i dont know why....but the divide is there......back in the day people was people and i believe in the early days if rap....

New Yorkers wasnt as arrogant or self centered.......but like i said......New Yorkers have made it bad for themselves........down south we are known for what Southern Hospitality...... we treat people with respect and show love to people.......we dont have the high strung attitude.....the men down here are not attention whores, who feel the need to dress flyer then all the females......we are like oil and water just dont mix........u can tell a east coast nigga whenever he down south...... he look like a scared little bitch to even open his mouth.....and let that funny ass new york accent out......because he will be the laughin stock.....just like we sound funny.....what make yall think yall dont sound funny to our ears we are human nigga

i think niggas takin it too far. most blacks come from the south, got southern family n shit. a dickhead is a dickhead no matter where he from. people are smart or dumb as individuals, judging a whole place based on the worst aspects is stupid. south niggas in ny get love, i was in bk and they got no hate. but thats people, not rappers. i been to dc va nc sc atl flroida and no one fucked with me for being from philly. but im humble and thats the damn key. niggas too arrogant with shit every region got cool shit about it. as far as the music, all regions got good and bad shit too ny dont got a monopoly on smart/good mcs anymore imo....

 

[soul rattler]

It has always been NY vs _________________ thats always........ niggas are anti-East Coast because East coast is Anti-South...... simple as that...

i stated in a earlier post.....that back in the days it was like that.......u never heard Run DMC diss the south.......u never Cold Crush diss the south

U never Rakim diss the south.......I understand niggas have the 5's and God Body and Muslims......to me thats one of the main reasons.....because he we have niggas Down here teaching the 5 percent lingo.....and have Muslims down here......talking about not eating pork.......i understand its only a belief system....and i have no problem with a

black man thinking he God...... shit like i told them Muslim niggas.....i could care less if God looked exactly like me.......or looked like a bum off the streets....... u understand what im saying Gen......u know the talk.....so believe i know the talk and im well versed in the talk.....but its something deep rooted that as black people something have fell off the charts where we feel we are better then others......and lead to the point where we were conquered and divided as peoples....... i cant say when maybe it started with Martin Vs Malcolm......i dont know.....but for some reason Up north you guys feel yall are superior to folks down south, and yall express that........and i was showing u guys...

the only difference we have is not walking in you guys footsteps.......i dont know....maybe if we mimic and follow suite and carbon copy everything East Coasters do this would be a better hip hop game......but now the tables are turning....because all the New Yorkers are rapping like southerns and rappin over southern beats......

its sickening to my stomach to hear a East coast artist, talk down on the south.....and then turn around and kick a written (freestyle) over the hottest south beats and sound like he just stepped off a plane from ATL...... like is yall niggas confused......didnt u just diss this nigga....but u turn around and rap over his beat....and use his flow but he whack........amazing..........

You remind me of this video...

[video=youtube;UTjAlSENk_Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTjAlSENk_Q[/video]

 

[7thwardslim]

i think niggas takin it too far. most blacks come from the south, got southern family n shit. a dickhead is a dickhead no matter where he from. people are smart or dumb as individuals, judging a whole place based on the worst aspects is stupid. south niggas in ny get love, i was in bk and they got no hate. but thats people, not rappers. i been to dc va nc sc atl flroida and no one fucked with me for being from philly. but im humble and thats the damn key. niggas too arrogant with shit every region got cool shit about it. as far as the music, all regions got good and bad shit too ny dont got a monopoly on smart/good mcs anymore imo....

Thats my point.......dog its dumb as people everywhere......i mean all over the world......what the fuck them asians are smart as shit......but i know they have a few dumb ones....u feel me......but its more about the internet then actually people.....because if yall dont know......the East Coast music get mad love down south....

i mean niggas really fuckin with that East coast.....u just put a bunch niggas on that A-Mafia Flyin Cars.....and niggas loving that shit......cuz its a smooth as jam.....but its the people like the t/s who make personal attacks on the people of the southern region......im defend the southern region.....and i wont just sit back and be like yea....everybody from the south is dumb and stupid because Gucciman have a hit record......niggas in the south didnt lump New Yorkers in the ODB or Kool Keith lane......if yall understand what im saying......yall probably didnt think niggas know about Kool Keith.....maybe yall New Yorkers dont even know about Kool Keith......but nigga from new york and sound like he as smart as 1st grader......i mean he make Gucciman sound like a Eistein compared the bullshit Kool Keith uttered out his mouth....i mean ODB......are yall serious.....Southerns have way more open minds and less judgemental as people...... because for ODB you guys have u can also produce a Nas.....yall not respecting the fact that for Gucciman we can produce a Jay Electronica....or Andre 3K....... dont sleep on the southern lyricist.....yall just not exposed to them yet........just like we havent been exposed to the retard of New York until the likes of Biz Markie....and ODB...and Kool Keith......real talk...

 

[Knives Amilli]

These mfing djs are the scum of the music business right now, there is so much payola and political connections going on right now. Did you really believe the shit you hear on the radio or club is a result from the consumer demand, naw dude, it's entities who the record labels pay off to get spins on the radio and what not.

Payola IMO is virtually non existent in modern times.

 

[soul rattler]

Payola IMO is virtually non existent in modern times.

Not true. Payola is alive and well.

 

[7thwardslim]

You remind me of this video...

[video=youtube;UTjAlSENk_Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTjAlSENk_Q[/video]

Yea.......im a New Orleans nigga......and we speak whats real we speak whats our mind.....like i say man niggas got love for the East Coast.....but real niggas will address yall

if cant respect yall tripping.......yall act like New Yorker wasnt shittin on the South for decades.......man niggas will step up to the plate let a nigga know look man....

yall aint talkin reckless about and not gettin checked for it........man niggas aint scared to address yall head on..........its real talk new Yorkers have always tried to shit on the south.....but its a problem when niggas from the South say damn dog......stop shittin on us......same as black people......the subject always when black people talk about mishaps.......white folks always want to forget shit......act like it never happened......just turn the cheek......like yall what yall think yall can just shit on us.....and we never respond.......i noticed this after Jay Elect bombed on the East coast.......not East Coast artist stepped up to battle that nigga......

"Its like New York aint been the same since Jay Elect hurt yo feelings"

 

[soul rattler]

Yea.......im a New Orleans nigga......and we speak whats real we speak whats our mind.....like i say man niggas got love for the East Coast.....but real niggas will address yall

if cant respect yall tripping.......yall act like New Yorker wasnt shittin on the South for decades.......man niggas will step up to the plate let a nigga know look man....

yall aint talkin reckless about and not gettin checked for it........man niggas aint scared to address yall head on..........its real talk new Yorkers have always tried to shit on the south.....but its a problem when niggas from the South say damn dog......stop shittin on us......same as black people......the subject always when black people talk about mishaps.......white folks always want to forget shit......act like it never happened......just turn the cheek......like yall what yall think yall can just shit on us.....and we never respond.......i noticed this after Jay Elect bombed on the East coast.......not East Coast artist stepped up to battle that nigga......

"Its like New York aint been the same since Jay Elect hurt yo feelings"

I actually thought of that same analogy earlier. The way New Yorkers behave towards Southerners is similar to the way many Caucasians do African Americans. They throw stones and hide their hands. They are the initiators of conflict, but can't understand why they are disliked.

Peep this...

[video=youtube;A5MPkDV3gDU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5MPkDV3gDU[/video]

 

[7thwardslim]

It aint even about NY ppl feeling superior to the south ima just tell u straight out... Niggas feel superior to everybody and its not just cuz "Oh im from NY so im better" no its a CONFIDENCE that we possess... And this is what i dont get if dont love my self who is going to? If i dont have confidence who is going to have it for me? I know when to be humble in a professional setting but who the fuck are any of yall regular ass niggas for me to tone down how i feel about myself? And yall take it as us feel like we're better than u and thats the truth but it's not just because ur from the south.... Jersey gets shitted on all the time for not having their own Idenity and Philly gets shitted on for being Dusty J/K..... Yall need to stop taking shit so personal.... Aint no Anti South campaign in NY.... Niggas do them and focus on getting money....

I really believe that yall southerns are insecure about something and yall need to figure it out.... Because im around this cockiness and arrogance all day everyday it doesnt bother me one bit.... And anybody with some self esteem and pride it wouldnt bother.... Because if ppl keep callin yall something that yall not but always claim that dont nobody care about our opinion Why does it matter?

My exact point........Man we are beyond confident......man we dont give a fuck what yall gotta say.....i thought yall knew that.....i thought East coast figured that out...

when niggas like Gucciman get a fucking a tattoo of a ice cream cone on his face.....or Wayne get some ill tattoo across his face....or baby get 2 stars and a oil derrick on his head.......that confidence.....thats the confidence and arrogance u talking about.......but here is the factor....when u call a person dumb......or stupid for being confident

Now be honest Gen.........When u seen GucciMan tattoo of the ice cone on his face what did u say?.......did u say he was confident or did u basically say it was southern thing..

downplaying the fact the he confident in his self.....and try to focus the point on him being from a region.......

Be real.........Gen.....be real because i was in that thread as most people was and i can u tell this......the word of Gucciman confidence never came into arguement

 

[7thwardslim]

I actually thought of that same analogy earlier. The way New Yorkers behave towards Southerners is similar to the way many Caucasians do African Americans. They throw stones and hide their hands. They are the initiators of conflict, but can't understand why they are disliked.

Peep this...

[video=youtube;A5MPkDV3gDU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5MPkDV3gDU[/video]

Yea that nigga went in on shorty.....but you did get my point......and thats all me and Jay Elect was saying.....niggas aint tripping.....its just that man we grown men

and we know when somebody coming at us sideways......so if u come at a nigga sideways expect a nigga to come back at u........thats all im saying

East coast rappers been shittin on Southerns for a while........thats why alot of them dont get no love down south......but in return like i said in a earlier post...

New York rappers diss every region rappers.......then turn around diss each other......it lead the New York vs ______________________

and New York is losing horrible....because the Top Tier of New York Rappers are not even puttin the younger guys on.......its like yall all fucked up

if nobody else in the nation like yall......then yall turn around and hate each other.....it dont make sense for the south to battle new york, because

New York is losing the 3-4 wars its currently fighting....

 

[7thwardslim]

Aint about understanding Niggas dont care tho.... Like yall shoudnt care about what we say about yall.... everybody has an opinion so why do our opinions hold so much weight with yall? Because yall call us shit we already know and admit.... Cocky, arrogant, Self Centered, "NY has wack rappers too" yea yea we know...... But we dont care because that NY STATE of MIND is embedded so it really doesnt matter....

Now be honest Gen.........When u seen GucciMan tattoo of the ice cone on his face what did u say?.......did u say he was confident or did u basically say it was southern thing..

downplaying the fact the he confident in his self.....and try to focus the point on him being from a region.......

Gen can u please address this for me.....about Gucciman and his ice cream cone.....was that a confidence thing or coon-southern-thing

 

[soul rattler]

Aint about understanding Niggas dont care tho.... Like yall shoudnt care about what we say about yall.... everybody has an opinion so why do our opinions hold so much weight with yall? Because yall call us shit we already know and admit.... Cocky, arrogant, Self Centered, "NY has wack rappers too" yea yea we know...... But we dont care because that NY STATE of MIND is embedded so it really doesnt matter....

It seems as if you're the product of a thing called "groupthink". It's when a group of people have the same thoughts and opinions based on what is mutually beneficial to everyone in said group. The reality is that there is no real NY STATE OF MIND because Hip Hop is credited to men that AREN'T EVEN FROM NEW YORK. New York is the birthplace of Hop Hop... nothing more, nothing less. My issue with you, Ms. Genstasia, is that you think it's so easy to categorize New York artists as either "good" or "wack" as if it's truely that simple. There is ONE standard to quality and artistry, and that's individualistic.

BTW, I'm not from the south. I'm from Chicago.

 

[soul rattler]

Yea that nigga went in on shorty.....but you did get my point......and thats all me and Jay Elect was saying.....niggas aint tripping.....its just that man we grown men

and we know when somebody coming at us sideways......so if u come at a nigga sideways expect a nigga to come back at u........thats all im saying

East coast rappers been shittin on Southerns for a while........thats why alot of them dont get no love down south......but in return like i said in a earlier post...

New York rappers diss every region rappers.......then turn around diss each other......it lead the New York vs ______________________

and New York is losing horrible....because the Top Tier of New York Rappers are not even puttin the younger guys on.......its like yall all fucked up

if nobody else in the nation like yall......then yall turn around and hate each other.....it dont make sense for the south to battle new york, because

New York is losing the 3-4 wars its currently fighting....

Yeah I definitely got your point, and I agree.

 

[7thwardslim]

U equate getting a Ice Cream cone on ur face to Confidence? really? Thats not just pure ignorance? And how is that Confidence when u dont have self respect for ur body let alone ur face? And nobody pointed out it being anything about a Southern thing..... Check all the threads about it nobody brought up the south.... I again repeat yall are insecure....

And how do u claim that yall dont care about NY but have an Anti East Coast campaign going on? And u get "Clowned" if ur anything Eastcoast related.... I think thats caring a lil too much if u ask me......

My bad u just replied........u say its a ignorance thing i say its a confidence.......i guess its a thin line between ignorance and confidence......and what i mean by Anti-East coast is nigga have a southern swag.....a Southern-Mind-State.......u feel me like a New York Mind-state.......but for me i cant speak for the whole south... because personally i have a New Orleans state of mind......and Niggas from New Orleans stand out just like a nigga from New York.....what i mean by Anti-East Coast...is niggas aint doing no (Chicken Noodle Souping)......(We wasnt Harlem shaking)........ we aint rocking Timbs....... he aint wearing sweater vest and shit.....and dressing like lumberjacks and shit.......i mean we have no east coast swag......its a no-no......like i assume yall not Kicking the (Stanky Leg).... and yall not feelin the Trap Music