Talib Kweli speaks out about homosexuality in hip-hop

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zombie;6210182 said:
Muhannad X;6210162 said:
zombie;6210136 said:
You either reject homosexuality 100% or you accept it. I don't give a fuck how skilled a faggot is i am not supporting his music, This music is uniquely connected to a culture and a whole way of thinking if you accept homosexuality into the music it will lead to acceptance in the mind.

I can almost guarantee you have listened to a gay artist and liked their music (n/h). It's just that you didn't know they were gay because they kept it to themselves. If you liked a track or artist, would you stop liking it after you found out the artist was gay?

You wacked my post which is perfectly fine with me, but even you gotta admit the whole Guru and Solar situation was suspect.

If don't know that they are gay and they don't state themselves to be gay then for all practical purposes they are not gay to me. I only go off what i know what i don't know is unimportant. I would stop supporting the music of a homosexual in hip-hop because i see the bigger picture. I wacked your post because it was not strong enough. where do you stand do you support this gay shit or not or do you not care.

I honestly don't think anyone chooses what they're attracted to. If these gays wanna live that way they can as far as I'm concerned. They're not bothering me in any way. Every man got a choice to do what he feels like and so do gays. Two consentual adults can do whatever they feel like as far as I'm concerned. I'm not the one to gonna judge them. I'm trying to serve Allah myself and still make mistakes daily like most muslims. I can make da'3wa (spread gainful knowledge on the religion) but that's where it stops.

I don't have gay friends or associates but that's mainly because we don't run in the same circles and don't have the same interests.

I don't approve of that gay lifestyle and especially gay sex since partaking in homosexual acts is a major sin in my religion. You can't be a practising homosexual and a muslim. I don't hate them but I and 1,5 billion people worldwide think they're sinners.
 
Muhannad X;6210162 said:
zombie;6210136 said:
You either reject homosexuality 100% or you accept it. I don't give a fuck how skilled a faggot is i am not supporting his music, This music is uniquely connected to a culture and a whole way of thinking if you accept homosexuality into the music it will lead to acceptance in the mind.

I can almost guarantee you have listened to a gay artist and liked their music (n/h). It's just that you didn't know they were gay because they kept it to themselves. If you liked a track or artist, would you stop liking it after you found out the artist was gay?

You wacked my post which is perfectly fine with me, but even you gotta admit the whole Guru and Solar situation was suspect.

I think he is. At the very least Solar is a homo.
 
young_reezy;6210239 said:
luther didn't write his own music and if he did it was rare.

Hip Hop was a masculine expression born out of the issues that plagued the black community in the late 60's.

since gay rights and black peoples rights are now lumped up in the same category (which is asinine, imagine if people who smoked cigarettes where marginalized in some form due to the fact they smoke, that would be In line with what sometimes happens to gay people, but being black is related to a deep history, culture, art, of great people)

being gay like choosing to smoke cigarettes is a personal preference.

no way should that be lumped up with the black fight against white supremacy.


shame on a nigga.

I agree with the bolded. I didn't like it when that gay basketball player Jason Williams said some bullsh*t about discriminating gays is the same as discriminating blacks. Being attracted to who you're attracted to might not be a choice, BUT acting on it is. Gays can hide their sexuality whille us blacks can't. They need to stop comparing our struggle to theirs. It wild disrespectful.

 
jono;6210248 said:
young_reezy;6210094 said:
the gay agenda is being pushed on the black community to promote population control.

If all u niggaz turn gay then who's gonna make the babies?

let alone who's gonna raise the babies because you have that going on already with fatherless children

almost like someone pleading to get every pet spade and neutered.

There's no such thing as "turning" gay. Either a nigga gay or he isn't.

There's no better way to say it than to say no matter how good or skilled a rapper is, no matter how dope his songs or how many records he sells it won't be enough to make cats who don't want to have sex with men start to.

It's nonsense.

no you right but look deeper. you have some impressionable youths out there who aren't even sexually active, the agenda that you are arguing for distorts the natural order before some even understand what it is. you have some who might experiment with the gay lifestyle because they are still learning who they are which would further confuse things.

to where you might have someone who might have not been gay but experimented at a time when they where becoming sexually active and now the stigma of who or what they really are persists.

which may have not been such a issue if the gay agenda that you are arguing wasn't forced fed every time you look around.
 
young_reezy;6210239 said:
luther didn't write his own music and if he did it was rare.

Hip Hop was a masculine expression born out of the issues that plagued the black community in the late 60's.

since gay rights and black peoples rights are now lumped up in the same category (which is asinine, imagine if people who smoked cigarettes where marginalized in some form due to the fact they smoke, that would be In line with what sometimes happens to gay people, but being black is related to a deep history, culture, art, of great people)

[/b]being gay like choosing to smoke cigarettes is a personal preference.[/b]

no way should that be lumped up with the black fight against white supremacy.

shame on a nigga.

No...People who are genuinely homosexual can't help that shit...It's not a choice...If it makes more sense, what helped me to understand this is the fact that people are born everyday with mental/physical deficiencies that go against the standards of what a "normal" human being should be...A person who literally can't help but be attracted to a person of the same sex has a condition...Ion wanna necessarily call it a defect, but pretty much...It's in our human nature to mate with the opposite gender and procreate...Gays are born with an instinct that goes against that...
 
i'm not playing semantics.. ok let's not say "turn gay" since u don't like that, how about are gay. ever wonder why so many gay folks coming out of the woodwork?

true I know some of yall got that gay uncle, or that butch auntie that shows up to family functions black people and never been no stranger to that.

but damn you got it so rampant now where does it stop? or would you argue that there has always been a lot of gays out there but todays day and age made it more acceptable for them to come out.

or is it the fact that so much is being thrown at our youth before they can get a chance to understand what life actually is.
 
But of course...There are people who do simply/not so simply choose to find a partner of the same sex...Whether it be for exploration, recreation, or confusion due to traumatic events during the course of life...
 
young_reezy;6210264 said:
jono;6210248 said:
young_reezy;6210094 said:
the gay agenda is being pushed on the black community to promote population control.

If all u niggaz turn gay then who's gonna make the babies?

let alone who's gonna raise the babies because you have that going on already with fatherless children

almost like someone pleading to get every pet spade and neutered.

There's no such thing as "turning" gay. Either a nigga gay or he isn't.

There's no better way to say it than to say no matter how good or skilled a rapper is, no matter how dope his songs or how many records he sells it won't be enough to make cats who don't want to have sex with men start to.

It's nonsense.

no you right but look deeper. you have some impressionable youths out there who aren't even sexually active, the agenda that you are arguing for distorts the natural order before some even understand what it is. you have some who might experiment with the gay lifestyle because they are still learning who they are which would further confuse things.

to where you might have someone who might have not been gay but experimented at a time when they where becoming sexually active and now the stigma of who or what they really are persists.

which may have not been such a issue if the gay agenda that you are arguing wasn't forced fed every time you look around.

There is no "gay agenda". Gays have always existed in every society no matter how they are treated, people can't help who they are.

As far as the bolded, most people who are old enough to be sexually active already know whether they have attractions to males or females, which disputes this scenario.

There's a significant difference between impressionable teens getting weirdo haircuts to emulate a pop icon and wanting to fuck men because they fuck men.
 
young_reezy;6210264 said:
jono;6210248 said:
young_reezy;6210094 said:
the gay agenda is being pushed on the black community to promote population control.

If all u niggaz turn gay then who's gonna make the babies?

let alone who's gonna raise the babies because you have that going on already with fatherless children

almost like someone pleading to get every pet spade and neutered.

There's no such thing as "turning" gay. Either a nigga gay or he isn't.

There's no better way to say it than to say no matter how good or skilled a rapper is, no matter how dope his songs or how many records he sells it won't be enough to make cats who don't want to have sex with men start to.

It's nonsense.

no you right but look deeper. you have some impressionable youths out there who aren't even sexually active, the agenda that you are arguing for distorts the natural order before some even understand what it is. you have some who might experiment with the gay lifestyle because they are still learning who they are which would further confuse things.

to where you might have someone who might have not been gay but experimented at a time when they where becoming sexually active and now the stigma of who or what they really are persists.

which may have not been such a issue if the gay agenda that you are arguing wasn't forced fed every time you look around.

Right, I think homosexuality being so much more prevelant within society effects the mentality of the youth.

I'm not against gay rights, but the more homosexuality is accepted in society, the more kids will be curious and experiment with it. Half of those kids won't even be naturally gay, but influenced by what they see.

When it comes to a rapper being gay, I have no problem with it. I'm sure some of the rappers that I listen are already gay or have committed a homosexual act in their life.

As long as the music is dope and he's not talking about smashing dudes, I don't care.
 
infamous114;6210064 said:
rip.dilla;6209995 said:
SMH

I dunno if posters is really gay or just shock posting ..

Either way you found it funny which is weird in itself.

My reaction was for the flag reactions ..

Normally when I see a hidden post I know something mind boggling has been posted
 
Frank Ocean is now the toast of the industry and is featured regularly by the likes of JayZ and KanYe both who have a massive fanbase ..

However since he came out I can't purchase or listen to his music. I know he's a talented dude though . ..
 
Muhannad X;6210251 said:
zombie;6210182 said:
Muhannad X;6210162 said:
zombie;6210136 said:
You either reject homosexuality 100% or you accept it. I don't give a fuck how skilled a faggot is i am not supporting his music, This music is uniquely connected to a culture and a whole way of thinking if you accept homosexuality into the music it will lead to acceptance in the mind.

I can almost guarantee you have listened to a gay artist and liked their music (n/h). It's just that you didn't know they were gay because they kept it to themselves. If you liked a track or artist, would you stop liking it after you found out the artist was gay?

You wacked my post which is perfectly fine with me, but even you gotta admit the whole Guru and Solar situation was suspect.

If don't know that they are gay and they don't state themselves to be gay then for all practical purposes they are not gay to me. I only go off what i know what i don't know is unimportant. I would stop supporting the music of a homosexual in hip-hop because i see the bigger picture. I wacked your post because it was not strong enough. where do you stand do you support this gay shit or not or do you not care.

I honestly don't think anyone chooses what they're attracted to. If these gays wanna live that way they can as far as I'm concerned. They're not bothering me in any way. Every man got a choice to do what he feels like and so do gays. Two consentual adults can do whatever they feel like as far as I'm concerned. I'm not the one to gonna judge them. I'm trying to serve Allah myself and still make mistakes daily like most muslims. I can make da'3wa (spread gainful knowledge on the religion) but that's where it stops.

I don't have gay friends or associates but that's mainly because we don't run in the same circles and don't have the same interests.

I don't approve of that gay lifestyle and especially gay sex since partaking in homosexual acts is a major sin in my religion. You can't be a practising homosexual and a muslim. I don't hate them but I and 1,5 billion people worldwide think they're sinners.

Do you want homosexuality associated with islam? No. I feel the same way about hiphop.

 
There will never be an openly gay rapper who can relate to the masses... Rappers use to many words and eventually some awkward bar about sex or relationships will make the average male listener gag

Maybe in 20 years when all these little kids are grown and devoid of testosterone.
 
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Y'all are naive as fuck. That Macklemore kid is gay. He's just throwing out hints to peep the reactions. He'll come out once he's experienced enough success.
 

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