Straight Black Men Are the White People of Black People

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blacktux;c-10007476 said:
Westie;c-10007465 said:
blacktux;c-10007441 said:
While every other woman building up their men to go out and compete in this world.

Black women worried about their feelings.

This shit about power man. No matter how much more educated yall become, how much more aggressive, outspoken and "brave" yall are when it comes to these issues. You are not a threat to the establishment; the establishment knows this...so they allow yall to have yall fun.

If you not willing to put the black man first, build him up and send him out to compete for ALL of our stake in this world; aint nothing else to talk about.

Fuck talking about sexism when racism is still an the overbearing issue.

The sad part is, you don't seem to realize how horrible this shit is.

You wanna feel sorry for yourself or do something about it?

I do something about it, by keeping toxic niggas away from me in real life. I don't feel sorry for me. But us as a people, your mindset isn't helping at all. So i feel sorry for us.
 
atribecalledgabi;c-10007485 said:
jetlifebih;c-10007450 said:
atribecalledgabi;c-10007435 said:
jetlifebih;c-10007418 said:
atribecalledgabi;c-10007390 said:
Shizlansky;c-10007328 said:
atribecalledgabi;c-10006704 said:
Shizlansky;c-10006153 said:
Ok.

Men mistreating women ain't exclusive to black women.

We're supposed to be having a discussion about issues within our own community tho....what everybody else is doing ain't the point

It's very much the point when you are tearing down the black man and referring to it as a BLACK MALE ISSUE when it's not.

Dumb shit like saying it's a black issue when it's not is dumb as fuck.

I'm starting to think that black relationships issues are more of the black women fault.

Y'all listened to these women and now the black family suffer from it. Y'all want your cake and eat it too with this I don't need a man shit and what black men have to do.

How about y'all talk about what y'all have to do.

Always placing the blame on us is fucking dumb as fuck

Who said misogyny is only a black issue? Black men and women mainly deal with each other. So if I'm saying I'm having an issue with misogyny....I'm gonna present that to the men I deal with - black men.

But wouldn’t the best thing to do is attack the cause of this??and Not the symptom???

Why are you assuming black women are not vocal about racism?

I am not .....all I’m saying is if my ship is sinking I’m worried about stopping up the hole not the rising water....at the point I begin focusing on the rising water and instead of plugging the hole I start dumping water out of the boat and get the illusion of progress...my issue becomes a vicious cycle that could be more harmful that if I would of just plugged the hole

Then your point doesn't make any sense...misogyny is not a byproduct of racism. It exists on its own. Like I said in my other post, hip hop, a culture/genre that WE created with very little to no help from whites, is misogynistic.

Misogyny for us IS a byproduct of our history ...that’s my point.....

It wasn’t until black men/ women assimilated to the idea that they had the same issues as white women and that black men have the same motive as white

Men.... or are you saying there was an African feminist movement prior to our relocation here?? What was the black womans issue in Africa prior to comin to America??

Either way I think our issue with our women is a byproduct of our enslavement , and instead of worrying about getting free from being enslaved we are bickering over byproducts

It’s just like how people complain how much money they make compared to white men when that’s the least of people’s worries lol we need to find a way to publicize the list of the 1% of the world wealth holders who caused this world to come to what it is....but y’all fight for y’all dollar.....

 
blacktux;c-10007164 said:
Westie;c-10007056 said:
blacktux;c-10007034 said:
Westie;c-10006759 said:
blacktux;c-10006689 said:
Westie;c-10005511 said:
blacktux;c-10005496 said:
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10003124 said:
gorilla;c-10003047 said:
Westie;c-10003024 said:
gorilla;c-10003013 said:
Westie;c-10002988 said:
gorilla;c-10002973 said:
Westie;c-10002960 said:
gorilla;c-10002952 said:
I'm sick of this "but but but black women get treated the worst" shit. It divides us as a people and usually generates from man hating bitches or sissy ass dudes raised by man hating bitches.

I don't know any black man that would argue that our sisters don't have it as hard as us, we in this shit together. However we are attacked on different fronts, in different ways. The only thing we should be doing is trying to build together instead of trying to make enemies out of each other. The problem is there's a large segment of our sisters who want attention and control. So they make us out to be on par with the white man's evilness.

Lmfao

ironic. Post is ironic.

Doesn't make it any less true. And I'll say the same thing about black men who hate black women simply out of their experiences with the bad ones they've chosen. It goes both way but here we're talking about the monster we are being made out to be by our own community.

yes or no - are there black men who are monsters?

Of course. But are all or even the vast majority? This article seems to try and insinuate that.

okay I didn't interpret that. My whole point is there are many black men Who don't give a fuck about issues that are concerning black women, gay black people, trans black people. Anything that doesn't fit into their straight male box. A lot like white people. That's all I'm saying. that doesn't mean that it's all black men or most black men or half of black men their means that there is a population that doesn't really give a fuck about the rest of black people.

So if it's not all, most or even half then why is this being constantly pushed?

blk women have to take a look in the mirror as well

that said, yes, not all blk men are misogynistic or sexist or violent woman beaters ...that is not the argument

the issue is when we try to speak on misogyny and issues that impact blk women specifically , our concerns are met with push back or dismissed or we are met with silence

primarily silence

for example, i rarely have observed blk men speak out against the misogyny within our society or even within their own circle

but there is an argument to be made that while you may not be misogynistic " allowing our cousins and brothers and co-workers and friends to use misogynistic language propagates that culture of danger for blk women."

Misogyny is a male issue, not a black male issue. And the fact that you and your gang keep trying to make it out to be one; and only hold black men accountable for it in context, is honestly frustrating to deal with.

Its easier to just dismiss it and keep it moving.

Nobody said that. Of course it's a male issue. Furthermore, alllll this shit stems from white supremacy. But we're here now, so why is it a problem to discuss black issues with black men?

Because its not a black male issue, its a male issue.

Its like you subconsciously feel that females of other races arent dealing with the same misogyny.

And it the line of thought goes right along with that gay/tranny supporting/swirl shit that all of these feminist are on recently. You directly tear at black masculinity but expect love at the same time.

Oh so you think in society white and black women get treated the same? Are you kidding me?

Are black women more oppressed by black men or white men.

I hate to repeat myself but its like yall are saying other men would/will/are treating black women better than black men are.

If misogyny is a male issue, then keep it there and deal with it. Dont isolate black men and make it seem like we started the shit or exhibit the most extreme version of it.

Black men are not the problem, the oppression of women is.

That's not what I'm saying at all. why is that your reflex to think that we are saying white men are better? I'm saying every race treats black women like shit. The race closest to us, the black race, has a whole host of problems that a lot of black men refuse to even acknowledge. so... Since we get it from all areas of life what is the problem with asking black men to acknowledge that how we're treated is shitty, and to take the steps that they can to not treat us as shitty, like the rest of the world?

Black men get treated shitty too though. We are in this shit together and shouldn't be trying to one up eachother in the oppression olympics.

Black women have to deal with racism on top of sexism, but i would say the RACISM is more to blame for the conditioning and position; otherwise yall would be treated like white women...who still are oppressed but its not even the same league.

Black women like yourself need to understand something and make a choice. Yall want to fight sexism first or racism first? Because whatever choice you make out of the two; you have chosen your ally. But if you fight them BOTH at the same time, you have NO ally because no other people deal with oppression on the level black women do.

If the bold was true then you wouldn't have so many posts in here stating "Black men get it worse than black women". And as I said in a post already, people don't have to choose which type of oppression to fight over another. Multiple things can be addressed at once
 
Westie;c-10007330 said:
5th Letter;c-10007322 said:
Westie;c-10007312 said:
So now yall gotta pick between being a man and black? Anything to not have to acknowledge black women's pain. Smfh

Every other group (for the most part) chooses their race first and foremost before anything else. Black people seem to be the only ones (for the most part) that wrestle with this dilemma. I won't ever side with white men over black women speaking for myself.

What are the sides though? Black women : treat us better, black men : no

Wtf???

What are the sides though? Black men : not all black men are mistreating black women, black women : yes y'all do

Wtf???
 
5th Letter;c-10007537 said:
Westie;c-10007330 said:
5th Letter;c-10007322 said:
Westie;c-10007312 said:
So now yall gotta pick between being a man and black? Anything to not have to acknowledge black women's pain. Smfh

Every other group (for the most part) chooses their race first and foremost before anything else. Black people seem to be the only ones (for the most part) that wrestle with this dilemma. I won't ever side with white men over black women speaking for myself.

What are the sides though? Black women : treat us better, black men : no

Wtf???

What are the sides though? Black men : not all black men are mistreating black women, black women : yes y'all do

Wtf???

Quote that post
 
This multi task shit is so harmful y’all dont even realize....we ain’t computers nigga

Effectively Multi tasking is literally a “gift” like drawing or singing ... not something everybody can do
 
7figz;c-10007186 said:
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10007142 said:
7figz;c-10007118 said:
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10007063 said:
7figz;c-10006960 said:
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10006933 said:
7figz;c-10006909 said:
Black men getting blamed for the sexism of white men now ?

What?

Where did u get that from????

You talk about this historical sexism (ex. during the civil rights movement) like if Black men were the ones saying women were less than a man, and shouldn't work, vote and all that bullshit. No, that shit was not us - we were busy being oppressed along with yall. That was the white man's philosophy.

I know I damn sure never had that belief. Neither did my father, or grandfather, or Uncles or any man in my family that I could think of - believe that a woman was less than a man and shouldn't work and all that bullshit.

What?

So black men have never been and aren't sexist? Bullshit

There was sexism within the civil rights movement and within blk organizations like Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) who organized many of the protests during that time

Based off the experiences of women Dorothy Height, Ella Baker and other accounts

Again read: www.google.com/amp/www.theroot.com/dorothy-height-and-the-sexism-of-the-civil-rights-movem-1790879502/amp

Though he did great things and his views were constantly evolving, Mlk jr had sexist views. He believed women best served as secretaries and or in the kitchen.

An Anna Holmes column takes a look at Martin Luther King, Jr.’s relatively short-lived stint as an advice columnist for Ebony.

The results are a powerful reminder that the past was a very different place:

King’s response to a cheated-on wife was to suggest that she “study” her rival to learn what her husband wanted in a woman. (“Are you careful with your grooming? Do you nag?” he asked.) He informed an unmarried woman grappling with whether to have sex that “real men still respect purity and virginity” and instructed an abused wife to determine whether there was anything within her personality to justify such treatment. “Are you sure that you have a radiating personality, a pleasant disposition, and that feminine charm which every man admires?” he asked a Miss Lonelyhearts. To a newlywed having troubles with her mother-in-law, he remarked, “There is an expression that no home is big enough to have two women at its head.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkp...g-jr-s-advice-to-the-ladies-ac82e809b8c5/amp/

But yes the sexism that was present in the Civil Rights Movement and blk community was a continuation of oppressive mentality that existed in the larger american culture

No, you act like a few sexist Black men equals "Black men were sexist".

And I read that as one article without supporting evidence. To imply that all the Black men in the civil rights movement were against the Black women in the civil rights movement smells of pure bullshit. You'd have to really prove that, not one article from the questionable ass "root.com".

Like I said, of course sexist Black men existed - just as women did, the minority, but that's what you want to focus on. One can only wonder why.

But I'm the one moving the goal post lol

I'll play though

I posted two articles ...one was not from the root

And featured words authored by mlk jr

I can post more (:
http://cds.library.brown.edu/projects/FreedomNow/tiffany_joseph_thesis.html
https://www.shmoop.com/civil-rights-black-power/gender.html
http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/...-invisible-women-of-the-civil-rights-movement
https://www.loc.gov/collections/civ...nd-essays/women-in-the-civil-rights-movement/

Never said ALL blk men were sexist just that it was and has been a problem in our community ...and it is a bigger problem than you are suggesting ...

I'll try to get to this shit at some point and I hope it has actual verifiable references to whatever accusations are made and not just a bunch of opinion pieces.

The point remains how you seem to be blaming any Black man at will for this shit, including accusing us of ignoring some shit or being part of a problem.

Where's the examples of Black men (today) being sexist / misogynistic and dudes on here supporting it ? Start there.

Otherwise, you're talking other Black men ... and other Black men's reactions, which is why I say make a thread, get reactions and discuss it with the applicable people.

The co-sign for Zuko's post would be one example of sexist/misogynistic comments being supported. Hell I made a post in the thread about that dumb ass Cardi B song that I know is misogynistic...do I care? Not really...but I can admit what it was.
 
jetlifebih;c-10007350 said:
blackrain;c-10007300 said:
jetlifebih;c-10006788 said:
Why are we bringing up women’s rights/issues when y’all and we have issues being black first??

And if it’s a byproduct of white supremacy why not attack that?? And the other symptoms would go away right???? You get rid of a cold and the mucus and congestion symptoms leave.....in fact we are treating the symptoms instead of the virus....we wait until we have a runny nose and treat the runny nose instead of the infection...

That’s the exact same thing as lbgqt rights/lives being brought up during black lives matters issues

We have issues being black and people want to bring up points of contention about being a women , gay, poor, nationality, religion....

That too me says black women are ok with white supremacy....they just want their treatment to change a little bit....gay people are ok with white supremacy....they just want their social acceptance a little bit....

You say this as if the issues that come with being both black and a woman can't be addressed at the same time. I damn sure don't agree with every issue women raise and I think the article definitely has holes that kill its argument...but this idea that a person has to pick between the things they identify as is silly.

blackrain;c-10007300 said:
jetlifebih;c-10006788 said:
Why are we bringing up women’s rights/issues when y’all and we have issues being black first??

And if it’s a byproduct of white supremacy why not attack that?? And the other symptoms would go away right???? You get rid of a cold and the mucus and congestion symptoms leave.....in fact we are treating the symptoms instead of the virus....we wait until we have a runny nose and treat the runny nose instead of the infection...

That’s the exact same thing as lbgqt rights/lives being brought up during black lives matters issues

We have issues being black and people want to bring up points of contention about being a women , gay, poor, nationality, religion....

That too me says black women are ok with white supremacy....they just want their treatment to change a little bit....gay people are ok with white supremacy....they just want their social acceptance a little bit....

You say this as if the issues that come with being both black and a woman can't be addressed at the same time. I damn sure don't agree with every issue women raise and I think the article definitely has holes that kill its argument...but this idea that a person has to pick between the things they identify as is silly.

I said at this point in time black people as a whole can not multitask and put resources and energy into different areas and directions we need a unify and move in one direction to have an impact...we have been multitasking for the past 300 years

And the fact that you don’t realize jacking all trades and mastering nothing is not helping us...it distorts our purpose...we went from wanting liberation to wanting women’s rights to wanting gay rights...that’s what multi tasking does that’s what not moving in one direction does when everybody is on different accords you get black lives matters treatment....

Black people been multi tasking issues forever. You think the Civil Rights movement just focused on one thing or did it have multiple goals? You think when Malcom X was speaking he just spoke on 1 thing or did he address multiple issues? It's very much possible to include multiple layers to the issues that black folks face in the world whether that be about black men, black women, black children and it affects us all on a macro and micro level. The shit isn't hard to do, but people have this pissing contest and feel like if their issue isn't being addressed 100% of the time then that means it's forgotten about. That shit sounds very "All lives matter" like.
 
blackrain;c-10007547 said:
jetlifebih;c-10007350 said:
blackrain;c-10007300 said:
jetlifebih;c-10006788 said:
Why are we bringing up women’s rights/issues when y’all and we have issues being black first??

And if it’s a byproduct of white supremacy why not attack that?? And the other symptoms would go away right???? You get rid of a cold and the mucus and congestion symptoms leave.....in fact we are treating the symptoms instead of the virus....we wait until we have a runny nose and treat the runny nose instead of the infection...

That’s the exact same thing as lbgqt rights/lives being brought up during black lives matters issues

We have issues being black and people want to bring up points of contention about being a women , gay, poor, nationality, religion....

That too me says black women are ok with white supremacy....they just want their treatment to change a little bit....gay people are ok with white supremacy....they just want their social acceptance a little bit....

You say this as if the issues that come with being both black and a woman can't be addressed at the same time. I damn sure don't agree with every issue women raise and I think the article definitely has holes that kill its argument...but this idea that a person has to pick between the things they identify as is silly.

blackrain;c-10007300 said:
jetlifebih;c-10006788 said:
Why are we bringing up women’s rights/issues when y’all and we have issues being black first??

And if it’s a byproduct of white supremacy why not attack that?? And the other symptoms would go away right???? You get rid of a cold and the mucus and congestion symptoms leave.....in fact we are treating the symptoms instead of the virus....we wait until we have a runny nose and treat the runny nose instead of the infection...

That’s the exact same thing as lbgqt rights/lives being brought up during black lives matters issues

We have issues being black and people want to bring up points of contention about being a women , gay, poor, nationality, religion....

That too me says black women are ok with white supremacy....they just want their treatment to change a little bit....gay people are ok with white supremacy....they just want their social acceptance a little bit....

You say this as if the issues that come with being both black and a woman can't be addressed at the same time. I damn sure don't agree with every issue women raise and I think the article definitely has holes that kill its argument...but this idea that a person has to pick between the things they identify as is silly.

I said at this point in time black people as a whole can not multitask and put resources and energy into different areas and directions we need a unify and move in one direction to have an impact...we have been multitasking for the past 300 years

And the fact that you don’t realize jacking all trades and mastering nothing is not helping us...it distorts our purpose...we went from wanting liberation to wanting women’s rights to wanting gay rights...that’s what multi tasking does that’s what not moving in one direction does when everybody is on different accords you get black lives matters treatment....

Black people been multi tasking issues forever. You think the Civil Rights movement just focused on one thing or did it have multiple goals? You think when Malcom X was speaking he just spoke on 1 thing or did he address multiple issues? It's very much possible to include multiple layers to the issues that black folks face in the world whether that be about black men, black women, black children and it affects us all on a macro and micro level. The shit isn't hard to do, but people have this pissing contest and feel like if their issue isn't being addressed 100% of the time then that means it's forgotten about. That shit sounds very "All lives matter" like.

That’s exactly my point g....multitasking “forever” and been getting our assed kicked “forever”

Let’s switch it up black man.....focus on one point and get it done....then move to the next

It hasn’t worked yet....insanity at its finest......
 
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Westie;c-10007539 said:
5th Letter;c-10007537 said:
Westie;c-10007330 said:
5th Letter;c-10007322 said:
Westie;c-10007312 said:
So now yall gotta pick between being a man and black? Anything to not have to acknowledge black women's pain. Smfh

Every other group (for the most part) chooses their race first and foremost before anything else. Black people seem to be the only ones (for the most part) that wrestle with this dilemma. I won't ever side with white men over black women speaking for myself.

What are the sides though? Black women : treat us better, black men : no

Wtf???

What are the sides though? Black men : not all black men are mistreating black women, black women : yes y'all do

Wtf???

Quote that post

Don't be obtuse
 
blackrain;c-10007543 said:
7figz;c-10007186 said:
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10007142 said:
7figz;c-10007118 said:
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10007063 said:
7figz;c-10006960 said:
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10006933 said:
7figz;c-10006909 said:
Black men getting blamed for the sexism of white men now ?

What?

Where did u get that from????

You talk about this historical sexism (ex. during the civil rights movement) like if Black men were the ones saying women were less than a man, and shouldn't work, vote and all that bullshit. No, that shit was not us - we were busy being oppressed along with yall. That was the white man's philosophy.

I know I damn sure never had that belief. Neither did my father, or grandfather, or Uncles or any man in my family that I could think of - believe that a woman was less than a man and shouldn't work and all that bullshit.

What?

So black men have never been and aren't sexist? Bullshit

There was sexism within the civil rights movement and within blk organizations like Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) who organized many of the protests during that time

Based off the experiences of women Dorothy Height, Ella Baker and other accounts

Again read: www.google.com/amp/www.theroot.com/dorothy-height-and-the-sexism-of-the-civil-rights-movem-1790879502/amp

Though he did great things and his views were constantly evolving, Mlk jr had sexist views. He believed women best served as secretaries and or in the kitchen.

An Anna Holmes column takes a look at Martin Luther King, Jr.’s relatively short-lived stint as an advice columnist for Ebony.

The results are a powerful reminder that the past was a very different place:

King’s response to a cheated-on wife was to suggest that she “study” her rival to learn what her husband wanted in a woman. (“Are you careful with your grooming? Do you nag?” he asked.) He informed an unmarried woman grappling with whether to have sex that “real men still respect purity and virginity” and instructed an abused wife to determine whether there was anything within her personality to justify such treatment. “Are you sure that you have a radiating personality, a pleasant disposition, and that feminine charm which every man admires?” he asked a Miss Lonelyhearts. To a newlywed having troubles with her mother-in-law, he remarked, “There is an expression that no home is big enough to have two women at its head.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkp...g-jr-s-advice-to-the-ladies-ac82e809b8c5/amp/

But yes the sexism that was present in the Civil Rights Movement and blk community was a continuation of oppressive mentality that existed in the larger american culture

No, you act like a few sexist Black men equals "Black men were sexist".

And I read that as one article without supporting evidence. To imply that all the Black men in the civil rights movement were against the Black women in the civil rights movement smells of pure bullshit. You'd have to really prove that, not one article from the questionable ass "root.com".

Like I said, of course sexist Black men existed - just as women did, the minority, but that's what you want to focus on. One can only wonder why.

But I'm the one moving the goal post lol

I'll play though

I posted two articles ...one was not from the root

And featured words authored by mlk jr

I can post more (:
http://cds.library.brown.edu/projects/FreedomNow/tiffany_joseph_thesis.html
https://www.shmoop.com/civil-rights-black-power/gender.html
http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/...-invisible-women-of-the-civil-rights-movement
https://www.loc.gov/collections/civ...nd-essays/women-in-the-civil-rights-movement/

Never said ALL blk men were sexist just that it was and has been a problem in our community ...and it is a bigger problem than you are suggesting ...

I'll try to get to this shit at some point and I hope it has actual verifiable references to whatever accusations are made and not just a bunch of opinion pieces.

The point remains how you seem to be blaming any Black man at will for this shit, including accusing us of ignoring some shit or being part of a problem.

Where's the examples of Black men (today) being sexist / misogynistic and dudes on here supporting it ? Start there.

Otherwise, you're talking other Black men ... and other Black men's reactions, which is why I say make a thread, get reactions and discuss it with the applicable people.

The co-sign for Zuko's post would be one example of sexist/misogynistic comments being supported. Hell I made a post in the thread about that dumb ass Cardi B song that I know is misogynistic...do I care? Not really...but I can admit what it was.

Which Zuko post was that ?
 
Its not on all black males to treat u right ladies just the nigga u fucking. Make sure the one/ones you dealing with treating you right. Speak for yaself not everybody.
 
man how is it a mans fault when the women CHOOSE the men. a woman can go out and say who wants to fuck and a million niggaZ will be in her face but reverse that and nothing. a woman gets pregnant by a no good man and she blames ALL men instead of herself for fucking them aint shit dudes.

yall are the one CHOOSING so yall need to make better decisions on who you open your legs to. im a decent guy....not the best, but i will treat my woman like a queen if i had one. but when i try to talk to a woman i find attractive they curve me for the dude thats "shining" (no disrespect to the shining dudes) and after she got four kids by eight dudes then im somehow the cream of the crop. do you get it now. its on yall.
 
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10006922 said:
VulcanRaven;c-10006622 said:
@Madame_CJSkywalker I see you doing all this talking about men needing to do this and needing to do that. What are you suggestions for how men can prevent some other men from being misogynistic to women, stop abuse in relationships and stop men from sexually assaulting their spouse? How do you possibly expect a man to stop a guy from hurting a woman that wants to be with that guy? Explain? We don't have mind control over other men.

web.stanford.edu/group/maan/cgi-bin/?page_id=85

WHAT MEN CAN DO TO END VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN

Be aware.

-Words are very powerful, especially when spoken by people with power over others. We live in a society in which words are often used to put women down, where calling a girl or woman a “bitch,” “freak,” “whore,” “baby,” is common. Such language sends a message that females are less than fully human. When we see women as inferior, it becomes easier to treat them with less respect, disregard their rights, and ignore their well-being.

-Don’t fund sexism. Refuse to purchase any magazine, rent any video, subscribe to any Web site, or buy any music that portrays girls or women in a sexually degrading or abusive manner. Protest sexism in the media.

-Rape and relationship abuse won’t be taken seriously until everyone knows how common it is. In the U.S. alone, more than one million women and girls are raped each year (Rape in America, 1992). Approximately one in three women will be in an abusive relationship in their lifetime (Report on the American Psychological Association Presidential Task Force on Violence and the Family, 1996).

-Understand the arguments against pornography depicting adult women. Think about how eroticizing violent sex contributes to violence against women.

Yes I agree about the words and I know plenty of men who don't refer to women in a degrading manner and was always told to respect women growing up and not to hurt them.

So what is sexually degrading when the women are choosing to be sexually degrading? This sounds like illogical feminist bullshit that makes it hard to take you serious. Men like porn and I am one of them so I don't see the issue here especially when as I said those women are not victims, but sex workers making money.

Once again how are we suppose to stop a women from being in abusive relationship when they choose and no matter what someone says they stay with the man? I don't see any accountability for the women at all and you keep ignoring that. I personally don't know anyone that promotes rape or relationship abuse. Maybe it's a Detroit thing. but over here we are not having that. Once again, a woman has to leave a man no matter what her family says. it is up to her. We can only help her when she excepts it.

Porn has no effect on how a man treats a woman. A rapist will rape because that is what he is. using porn is just another fallacy in a long list of flaws with your response. You do know (or whoever wrote that knows) that rape has been around way before porn right?

In the end you still have not given a real solution to end violence against women. If all you can do is talk about words and porn then you don't have a solution.
 
ineedpussy;c-10007956 said:
man how is it a mans fault when the women CHOOSE the men. a woman can go out and say who wants to fuck and a million niggaZ will be in her face but reverse that and nothing. a woman gets pregnant by a no good man and she blames ALL men instead of herself for fucking them aint shit dudes.

yall are the one CHOOSING so yall need to make better decisions on who you open your legs to. im a decent guy....not the best, but i will treat my woman like a queen if i had one. but when i try to talk to a woman i find attractive they curve me for the dude thats "shining" (no disrespect to the shining dudes) and after she got four kids by eight dudes then im somehow the cream of the crop. do you get it now. its on yall.

Nigga stop bitching about women not wanting you. Its cuz you make statements like that that women curve your ass
 
playmaker88;c-10006386 said:
Karl.;c-10005688 said:
This identity politics shit gets dumber every day.​

"identity Politics" is white peoples new and improved version of "the race card"

Nope. It’s not just about race. Keep pushing the bullshit instead of the real issues though.
 

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