Some men mistake sexual interest for consent,

[ThaNubianGod]

We have officially entered the twilight zone. A nigga can't even initiate conversation without being labeled a predator? Fuck outta here..

Dudes in a dress can chill in the ladie's bathroom and that's supposed to be fine, but a regular guy can't say hello to a female without being called a predator.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

chicks out here feeling themselves

 

[LordZuko]

There's basically two groups of women supporting this

Females who are young attractive and take for granted that they can choose from among a number of men.

The second group are the old Bitches past their prime and lonely so they want to make it hard for regular Bitches to attract men. The bitter bitch brigade is always accepting new members.

 

[LcnsdbyROYALTY]

How does this sound,

First offense you get charged with "attempted sexual misconduct" and the charges automatically get dismissed, but it stays on your record for, say, 5 years.

If it happens again within that 5 years you're probably guilty.

If you stay out of trouble for the 5 years it gets expunged from your record.

Basically you get a mulligan.

how about we recognize that a dude misreading the vibe the chick was giving off and attempting to smash is just that and leave it alone?

No good comes from microcriminalizing everything a dude does especially when the shit the other party has a hand in leading him in that direction.

That's exactly what's happening. Feminists are trying to turn everything men do into a crime.

People don't need or want all these rules in their relationships, if a chick wants to D she knows how to get it and if he knows she thinks she wants it he will shoot his shot.

All this bullshit, like the OP, is folks trying to prove they actually do work in the office. Nobody needs all these complications

I'm taking credit for that term too. Thought it up while I was typing that post.

GOATed, duly noted and added to my lexicon

 

[mryounggun]

Bruh, I understand all the talk about it with all the shit going on on the news since the Cosby shit broke. But honestly, it ain't really that hard to NOT sexually harass, assault or rape women, my niggas. It just...ain't.

 

[Koltrain]

Bruh, I understand all the talk about it with all the shit going on on the news since the Cosby shit broke. But honestly, it ain't really that hard to NOT sexually harass, assault or rape women, my niggas. It just...ain't.

Yeah.....for now. What about 5 to 10 years from now?

 

[playmaker88]

Bruh, I understand all the talk about it with all the shit going on on the news since the Cosby shit broke. But honestly, it ain't really that hard to NOT sexually harass, assault or rape women, my niggas. It just...ain't.

Yeah.....for now. What about 5 to 10 years from now?

Nigga. Wrong was wrong 5 years ago 50 years ago 500 years ago and will be 500 years from now

 

[konceptjones]

Bruh, I understand all the talk about it with all the shit going on on the news since the Cosby shit broke. But honestly, it ain't really that hard to NOT sexually harass, assault or rape women, my niggas. It just...ain't.

Yeah.....for now. What about 5 to 10 years from now?

Nigga. Wrong was wrong 5 years ago 50 years ago 500 years ago and will be 500 years from now

Nah bruh, shit that was ok back when I was in college doesn't fly at all. If a chick falls through and y'all pouring drinks back inna day it was ok to fuck. Nowadays if you even try to smash you're looking at an attempted rape charge. Never mind the fact that you're as drunk and can't consent to sex either, common sense shit like that doesn't matter: the man in the situation is supposed to be of strong constitution and can decline offers of sex despite being intoxicated. If not, a rape charge, prison time, and sex offender registration is in your future.

 

[MarcusGarvey]

Yall making this too complicated

Theres a difference between work and outside of work

•Don't be pulling out your dick at work like its a sign here sticker. In fact dont even talk that talk at work with any woman

•Don't touch women sexually without their consent

Outside of work, keep spitting them lyrics fuck what these #MeToo bishes say. A chick should be flattered A man noticed her.

lol i was gonna goat this til the last line

Other than women at work, A man should be able to ask a chick if shes down for the pound. Shes free to say no. What world are we living in - as long as i dont grope, whats the issue?

 

[konceptjones]

Yall making this too complicated

Theres a difference between work and outside of work

•Don't be pulling out your dick at work like its a sign here sticker. In fact dont even talk that talk at work with any woman

•Don't touch women sexually without their consent

Outside of work, keep spitting them lyrics fuck what these #MeToo bishes say. A chick should be flattered A man noticed her.

lol i was gonna goat this til the last line

Other than women at work, A man should be able to ask a chick of shes down for the pound. Shes free to say no. What world are we living in - as long as i dont grope, whats the issue?

these broads outchea ain't gonna be happy until cats start treating them like this:

 

[rickmogul]

Record mode! Women R playing a deadly game with how men won't approach them in the future and will have em lonely and bitter. Y they on bullshit so much? They convolute, contrive and collapse all they try and head / lead / run. They keep this up, hoes, real Hoes will be the housewives of the future. Feel sorry for broads sometimes man. They don't get it.

 

[Crude_]

Women will send a man mixed signals all day long, because it's pleasure in the chase for them and most of them enjoy being the center of male attention whether they admit it or not.

A good bit of the time that male attention comes with flirting and sexual innuendo. Sometimes the flirting and innuendo might be subtle and other times it might be more overt depending on the personality and motivations of the man.

Women can "act" naive or aloof all they like; however, if she's invited in this type of behavior and continues to entertain it then it is a reasonable summation that she is interested as well. Women really are the ones who do the choosing anyway once a man indicates he's interested she holds most of the power then.

Women have power and domain over what they choose to entertain and allow in their space, so these allegations that these men coerced them or forced anything upon them is likely grossly overblown and a misinterpretation of facts.

Like someone else has mentioned as long as a man isn't putting his hands on woman, trying to use his power or influence to make her do things, or trying to blackmail her into something then the flirting and sexual innuendo should be mostly taken with a grain of salt especially if she continued to allow herself to be in that space and around that man when she wasn't threatened and/or she is just waiting until now to come about something that supposedly happened years ago.

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

When i worked corrections ....they had a very important part of the training called “the games inmates play”

Basically they would put you up on game about the shit inmates do to manipulate officers.....

There needs to be a class called “the games women play”

Fuck you mean your interested in fuckin but you don’t want to fuck....is you fuckin or not?? Your girlfriend requested me on fb was eyeing me the whole fuckin night anyway ...stop playing games....

This really sounds like some shit chicks used to do right around that age where you stopped listening to your parents when they WASNT there...this issue seems adolescent in nature

early 20s. had a guy I'd been dealing with invite me over just to watch a movie... no discussion of sex....its like 6 pm...i accept because our first couple of dates was cool and we had chemistry... get to his house. eat. there is no tv in his living room. the only working tv is supposedly in his bedroom. now he tryna get me to drink. wasn't ready to go there with him. I make up an excuse to leave and even then he didn't want to take me home at first

now I'm thinking had he told me to find a diff way home he prob would have plenty of boys ready to dap him up

or if I'm down to just hug up and kiss, times you got men who will pressure u to do more after 2, 3 rebuffs

and based off what other women shared with me it happens a lot...

that said, i don't even think a lot of men are actively trying to do harm...or rather they aren't consciously aware of how intimidating or grating it can be after a while because obviously y'all are rarely on the receiving end, bigger, etc... and its almost expected behavior and has been tolerated up until now...it usually is chalked up to boys beings boys... to youth...etc

agree things are kind of getting muddled....but that's why what is consent is a necessary convo though...and getting to a consensus what is acceptable

I get you however

What da hell are you doing ALONE in a man's house you arent 80% down to fuck anyway?

Platonic relationships take place mostly during afternoons in Starbucks style places. No man, except a perv would try to initiate something sexual towards you.

IF MOST OF US GOT SOME RELATIONSHIPS EDUCATION most of MISUNDERSTANDINGS WOULDNT HAPPEN. But we tend to put ourselves in situations we dont understand.

IM NOT VICTIM BLAMING. However its high time we learn to GIVE BACK TO PLACES AND TIME THEIR MEANINGS.

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

At this rate a prostitue will sue her clients for rape willy nilly.

Time and places have meanings.

Thats the things we teach women when they enter the military. All the ones who didnt listen ended up in bad predicaments, true or fabricated.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

U can't always foresee what will offend or upset a person

Same as I'm sure there is someone out there who actually enjoys being grabbed by strange men

But is it always required you actually act or speak a word(s) before it occurs to you that this word or said action could potentially be offensive

If some females tell me they prefer that I ask before doing a certain action, and just as many or more females tell me asking would get me disqualified, I have absolutely no way to know which side a female falls on before doing it. All I can do is read the signals as best as I can and take my shot. I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to grasp.

In regards to touching

Is it not conventional wisdom that touching someone is an invasion of someone's personal space and typically reserved for those we are intimate with? wouldnt you agree its a good assumption if you have not established trust with a person they aren't going to want you touching them regardless of whether a previous individual or 2 with whom you had little to no rapport responded positively

Same with referring to a with someone's body, personhood who you barely know

Don't really see it as being all that hard or confusing

I guess when women come to the general consensus that "how's ur day going" " what's your name, if you don't mind me asking" is offensive I could sympathize

lol The whole point is there is no consensus on anything, which is why it's impossible to predict. If we knew that every single woman would receive being touched on the arm badly, none but the most disrespectful would do that. Again, for some females it is offensive. For others, something like that is necessary to break the ice and gain her interest. Sure you could just never touch anyone you don't know, and maybe that approach would keep you out of trouble, but it could also you prevent you from the success you want. It's like promoting abstinence as the best way to avoid pregnancy. That shit doesn't work because it basically ignores human nature. You say you don't see why it's hard or confusing, well you must be a psychological genius because when you read up on this subject, pretty much the only consensus is that human interaction is extremely complicated and there is no rule or set of rules that works in all cases.

we can never get to a real real consensus ... but we can try to move closer to that goal

Well what is your real goal? Cause it seems like you want to impose a set of rules where there is no basis for such a set. Again, if your advice for men is don't touch women you don't know at all, then what about all those women that respond to touch? I think we all can agree that some dudes take things too far and more can be done to dissuade that. But do you really think demonizing men for every little act is the right solution. So what you don't like the way a particular dude came at you. There is a difference between his style not being your thing and him being outright disrespectful.

not all touching is equal

and ultimately think a change in culture is necessary

but yea everyone, especially women, do have to continue to allow for a gray area for misunderstandings, when a person misreads a situation ....opposed to just classifying everything as harassment... true it's not helpful

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

When i worked corrections ....they had a very important part of the training called “the games inmates play”

Basically they would put you up on game about the shit inmates do to manipulate officers.....

There needs to be a class called “the games women play”

Fuck you mean your interested in fuckin but you don’t want to fuck....is you fuckin or not?? Your girlfriend requested me on fb was eyeing me the whole fuckin night anyway ...stop playing games....

This really sounds like some shit chicks used to do right around that age where you stopped listening to your parents when they WASNT there...this issue seems adolescent in nature

early 20s. had a guy I'd been dealing with invite me over just to watch a movie... no discussion of sex....its like 6 pm...i accept because our first couple of dates was cool and we had chemistry... get to his house. eat. there is no tv in his living room. the only working tv is supposedly in his bedroom. now he tryna get me to drink. wasn't ready to go there with him. I make up an excuse to leave and even then he didn't want to take me home at first

now I'm thinking had he told me to find a diff way home he prob would have plenty of boys ready to dap him up

or if I'm down to just hug up and kiss, times you got men who will pressure u to do more after 2, 3 rebuffs

and based off what other women shared with me it happens a lot...

that said, i don't even think a lot of men are actively trying to do harm...or rather they aren't consciously aware of how intimidating or grating it can be after a while because obviously y'all are rarely on the receiving end, bigger, etc... and its almost expected behavior and has been tolerated up until now...it usually is chalked up to boys beings boys... to youth...etc

agree things are kind of getting muddled....but that's why what is consent is a necessary convo though...and getting to a consensus what is acceptable

I get you however

What da hell are you doing ALONE in a man's house you arent 80% down to fuck anyway?

Platonic relationships take place mostly during afternoons in Starbucks style places. No man, except a perv would try to initiate something sexual towards you.

IF MOST OF US GOT SOME RELATIONSHIPS EDUCATION most of MISUNDERSTANDINGS WOULDNT HAPPEN. But we tend to put ourselves in situations we dont understand.

IM NOT VICTIM BLAMING. However its high time we learn to GIVE BACK TO PLACES AND TIME THEIR MEANINGS.

i wasn't necessarily surprised...not tryna say i'm a victim or anything...youthful indiscretion, tryna give ppl the benefit of the doubt

just pointing out the game playing, deception....the entitlement issues

in response to this idea women are the only one playing games

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Precisely why I do not engage in flirtatious behavior with men unless I have intention of having sex with them.

 

[LPast]

I haven't personally come across this, but I see a trend of things being discussed online and in the being blown out of proportion.

All of these politicians, anchors, etc were doing some serious ish that warranted them losing their positions.

 

[Will Munny]

I don’t even like standing in line behind women, of any age.

 

[rickmogul]

New gig white girl who already on DAY ONE told management she didn't like the brother she works with in inventory. Was helping patients and she needed to get by right. Bitch one armed bear hugged my whole chest to go to the left and on the way back hooked around my stomach coming back to the right side. It registered immediately and I kept it moving. Hoes know what they doing. Putting titties on ya arm and shit. I've always said it's no such thing as harassment when SHE WANTS U. It's game on the but tread lightly. Their days R numbered playing both sides. No one will take em seriously very soon.