So Michael Eric Dyson and Cornel West are at it again...

[blackamerica]

Cmon son. I like both these guys but Dyson is clearly only defending Obams by discrediting Dr West. The criticism of Obama from Dr West is definitely justified being he hasn't done much of anything for niggaz and refuses to take a real stand on the racial injustices like police brutality. Obama ran on changing racism, but when Ferguson was burning he was across the world tweeting out Robin Williams condolences smh. In other words, he stays away from controversial race topics primarily so he won't piss off the white privileged portion of america that HATES him. Stop negro.

Atleast Cornel West understands what Obama's doing, which is smooth talking niggaz into thinking he gives a fuck about us which is CLEARLY not the case.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

I applaud Michael Eric Dyson for speaking out on the Cornel West issue.

Too often we sit back and allow diatribe to permeate the public.

lolwut?

Dr. West's criticism is legit. but instead of exploring them, we're in here trying to discredit the brother.

 

[jono]

Cornel West is absolutely correct

Where was his great prophetic critiques against power, and why when all these things were happening in the 90s was he more interested in having access to the White House and hanging out with Bill till late in the night? He's full of more shit than a Christmas turkey. Respectfully.

You don't know what you are talking about. West was friendly with the Clintons at one time, but broke with them over Bill's policies, especially welfare reform. Look it up.

So the attacks from Cornel West on Obama have not gone from merelycritical to now more personal and scathing over the last few years? You're going to say that with a straight face?

You are changing the subject. You said something about West and Bill Clinton, and I pointed out that you are incorrect. You should acknowledge that you were wrong.

But we can talk about this too. West has become more scathing, but I don't think it is personal, and I certainly don't think it is about any damn inauguration tickets (which you mentioned a few posts back).

As I mentioned on the first page, West is first and foremost about speaking truth to power. (I'm like that too, and that's partly why I feel an affinity with him.) And he is also against the tendency of some black intellectuals and leaders to soft-pedal their criticisms of blacks in positions of power (if they are not actually supportive of them) because they're black, even though they're not really good for black or poor people. (He wrote about this way back in Race Matters (1993).) So holding firm in his criticism of Obama is supremely important to him, and these facts explain why.

No sir. He has gotten quite personal. He attacked Obama's blackness and he referred to MED, MHP and others as "boot lickers". He dead wrong for that.

"There's a difference between criticism and ad hominem"- MED and he's right.

divide and conquer. If MED has a problem with West, why not have a discussion in private instead of airing this nonsense in the public?

He said he has attempted a few times to settle this privately and Dr. West is uninterested. He also said he proposed a sit down between the two of them and Obama and West said no to that as well.

Assuming MED isn't lying West left him no choice.

 

[D. Morgan]

Cmon son. I like both these guys but Dyson is clearly only defending Obams by discrediting Dr West. The criticism of Obama from Dr West is definitely justified being he hasn't done much of anything for niggaz and refuses to take a real stand on the racial injustices like police brutality. Obama ran on changing racism, but when Ferguson was burning he was across the world tweeting out Robin Williams condolences smh. In other words, he stays away from controversial race topics primarily so he won't piss off the white privileged portion of america that HATES him. Stop negro.

Atleast Cornel West understands what Obama's doing, which is smooth talking niggaz into thinking he gives a fuck about us which is CLEARLY not the case.

He been stopped doing that years ago once he was clearly sure he had black peoples undying loyalty

 

[jono]

MSNBC is a wing of the Democratic Party the same as FOX is for the Republicans, it is no surprise then that the number of Black hosts on MSNBC increased, to include no less, Melissa Harris-Perry, Al Sharpton and Michael Eric Dyson. West disagrees with taking a position where you will be expected to insulate the president from criticism.

Looking at it from Dr. West position I know he has to be pissed he helped the careers of MED and MHP and now they both have come out attacking him. Truthfully, he may have attacked them first but they have a national stage and he doesn't.

Also take into account that West and Obama both used to be regulars at Jeremiah Wright's church. So they might have a much deeper personal history than we are acknowledging here. Obama was forced to politically disassociate from Wright after the whole "God Damn America" fiasco (right wing bloggers were not remiss in connecting Dr. West with that church as well).

Its quite the web the black intelligentsia

 

[A Talented One]

Cornel West is absolutely correct

Where was his great prophetic critiques against power, and why when all these things were happening in the 90s was he more interested in having access to the White House and hanging out with Bill till late in the night? He's full of more shit than a Christmas turkey. Respectfully.

You don't know what you are talking about. West was friendly with the Clintons at one time, but broke with them over Bill's policies, especially welfare reform. Look it up.

So the attacks from Cornel West on Obama have not gone from merelycritical to now more personal and scathing over the last few years? You're going to say that with a straight face?

You are changing the subject. You said something about West and Bill Clinton, and I pointed out that you are incorrect. You should acknowledge that you were wrong.

But we can talk about this too. West has become more scathing, but I don't think it is personal, and I certainly don't think it is about any damn inauguration tickets (which you mentioned a few posts back).

As I mentioned on the first page, West is first and foremost about speaking truth to power. (I'm like that too, and that's partly why I feel an affinity with him.) And he is also against the tendency of some black intellectuals and leaders to soft-pedal their criticisms of blacks in positions of power (if they are not actually supportive of them) because they're black, even though they're not really good for black or poor people. (He wrote about this way back in Race Matters (1993).) So holding firm in his criticism of Obama is supremely important to him, and these facts explain why.

No sir. He has gotten quite personal. He attacked Obama's blackness and he referred to MED, MHP and others as "boot lickers". He dead wrong for that.

"There's a difference between criticism and ad hominem"- MED and he's right.

divide and conquer. If MED has a problem with West, why not have a discussion in private instead of airing this nonsense in the public?

He said he has attempted a few times to settle this privately and Dr. West is uninterested. He also said he proposed a sit down between the two of them and Obama and West said no to that as well.

Assuming MED isn't lying West left him no choice.

I meant that his attacks, despite sometimes being personalized, are not personal. He doesn't hold a grudge against Obama because of anything he has done or not done (such as procure inauguration tickets) to or for him; it's rooted in principle (concern about poverty, etc.).

 

[bgoat]

I'm trying to figure out exactly what y'all want Obama to do for niggas???

 

[Meta_Conscious]

I'm trying to figure out exactly what y'all want Obama to do for niggas???

at the minimum, not help further white supremacy.

 

[a.mann]

on some real shit, some of y'all are either trolling,ignorant or just fuckin' liars

this took less than 3 mins

Obama Launches “My Brother’s Keeper”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/21/e...rs-keeper-education-program-expands.html?_r=0

On February 27, 2014, President Obama launched My Brother’s Keeper, a White House initiative focused on young men of color. This public-private partnership takes a “collaborative, multidisciplinary approach to build ladders of opportunity and unlock the full potential of boys and young men of color.”

Obama to Report Widening of Initiative for Black and Latino Boys

My Brother’s Keeper Program Grows to Include More Impoverished Minorities

President Obama will announce on Monday that 60 of the nation’s largest school districts are joining his initiative to improve the educational futures of young African-American and Hispanic boys, beginning in preschool and extending through high school graduation.

The districts, which represent about 40 percent of all African-American and Hispanic boys living below the poverty line, have committed to expand quality preschool access; track data on black and Hispanic boys so educators can intervene as soon as signs of struggle emerge; increase the number of boys of color who take gifted, honors or Advanced Placement courses and exams; work to reduce the number of minority boys who are suspended or expelled; and increase graduation rates among African-American and Hispanic boys.

How President Obama Plans to Get More People into Tech Jobs
http://dcinno.streetwise.co/2015/03/09/president-obama-launches-major-tech-job-training-program/

President Obama is launching a new program to get more people into technology-related jobs as part of his plan to boost higher-income employment.

The new TechHire initiative is a partnership between the administration, tech companies and a whole bunch of cities to provide training and job placement in the world of tech.

Obama launches African-American education initiative
http://www.politico.com/politico44/...can-american-education-initiative-130099.html

(CNN) -- President Barack Obama on Wednesday announced an initiative he said will give African-American students greater access "to a complete and competitive education from the time they're born all through the time they get a career."

Speaking Wednesday night at a National Urban League gathering in New Orleans, Obama said he has issued an executive order establishing the White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for African Americans, saying, "A higher education in a 21st century cannot be a luxury. It is a vital necessity that every American should be able to afford," he said.

He added that his administration is "pushing all colleges and universities" to cut their costs.

CBC & Black Business Leaders Meet With President Obama
http://aaenvironment.blogspot.com/2012/01/cbc-black-business-leaders-meet-with.html

In December, Chairman Emanuel Cleaver led a discussion with African American business leaders and President Barack Obama.

The first of its kind, the meeting served as an opportunity to discuss job creation recommendations and cultivate stronger working relationships within the African American business community, the Congressional Black Caucus and the Administration.

Thanks to Obamacare, 7.8 Million African-Americans Now Have Access to More Health Care Services
http://minorities.affordablehealthi...mericans-access-health-care.html#.VTaAffnF9qU

The Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, has enabled more Americans to be covered by health care insurance. It also provides more free health care services that will help keep people healthy, such as mammograms and flu shots. As a result, an estimated 7.8 million African-Americans now have access to these important health care services.

 

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

on some real shit, some of y'all are either trolling,ignorant or just fuckin' liars

this took less than 3 mins

Obama Launches “My Brother’s Keeper”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/21/e...rs-keeper-education-program-expands.html?_r=0

On February 27, 2014, President Obama launched My Brother’s Keeper, a White House initiative focused on young men of color. This public-private partnership takes a “collaborative, multidisciplinary approach to build ladders of opportunity and unlock the full potential of boys and young men of color.”

Obama to Report Widening of Initiative for Black and Latino Boys

My Brother’s Keeper Program Grows to Include More Impoverished Minorities

President Obama will announce on Monday that 60 of the nation’s largest school districts are joining his initiative to improve the educational futures of young African-American and Hispanic boys, beginning in preschool and extending through high school graduation.

The districts, which represent about 40 percent of all African-American and Hispanic boys living below the poverty line, have committed to expand quality preschool access; track data on black and Hispanic boys so educators can intervene as soon as signs of struggle emerge; increase the number of boys of color who take gifted, honors or Advanced Placement courses and exams; work to reduce the number of minority boys who are suspended or expelled; and increase graduation rates among African-American and Hispanic boys.

How President Obama Plans to Get More People into Tech Jobs
http://dcinno.streetwise.co/2015/03/09/president-obama-launches-major-tech-job-training-program/

President Obama is launching a new program to get more people into technology-related jobs as part of his plan to boost higher-income employment.

The new TechHire initiative is a partnership between the administration, tech companies and a whole bunch of cities to provide training and job placement in the world of tech.

Obama launches African-American education initiative
http://www.politico.com/politico44/...can-american-education-initiative-130099.html

(CNN) -- President Barack Obama on Wednesday announced an initiative he said will give African-American students greater access "to a complete and competitive education from the time they're born all through the time they get a career."

Speaking Wednesday night at a National Urban League gathering in New Orleans, Obama said he has issued an executive order establishing the White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for African Americans, saying, "A higher education in a 21st century cannot be a luxury. It is a vital necessity that every American should be able to afford," he said.

He added that his administration is "pushing all colleges and universities" to cut their costs.

CBC & Black Business Leaders Meet With President Obama
http://aaenvironment.blogspot.com/2012/01/cbc-black-business-leaders-meet-with.html

In December, Chairman Emanuel Cleaver led a discussion with African American business leaders and President Barack Obama.

The first of its kind, the meeting served as an opportunity to discuss job creation recommendations and cultivate stronger working relationships within the African American business community, the Congressional Black Caucus and the Administration.

Thanks to Obamacare, 7.8 Million African-Americans Now Have Access to More Health Care Services
http://minorities.affordablehealthi...mericans-access-health-care.html#.VTaAffnF9qU

The Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, has enabled more Americans to be covered by health care insurance. It also provides more free health care services that will help keep people healthy, such as mammograms and flu shots. As a result, an estimated 7.8 million African-Americans now have access to these important health care services.

 

[a.mann]

which bring us back this..........

The truth is many black Americans won't be satisfied until Barack and Michelle show up on their front porch with a $1million dollar check with their name on it

Couldn't name one person on their local city/county administration

but whining about what President Obama ain't doing for them

 

[Stiff]

on some real shit, some of y'all are either trolling,ignorant or just fuckin' liars

this took less than 3 mins

Obama Launches “My Brother’s Keeper”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/21/e...rs-keeper-education-program-expands.html?_r=0

On February 27, 2014, President Obama launched My Brother’s Keeper, a White House initiative focused on young men of color. This public-private partnership takes a “collaborative, multidisciplinary approach to build ladders of opportunity and unlock the full potential of boys and young men of color.”

Obama to Report Widening of Initiative for Black and Latino Boys

My Brother’s Keeper Program Grows to Include More Impoverished Minorities

President Obama will announce on Monday that 60 of the nation’s largest school districts are joining his initiative to improve the educational futures of young African-American and Hispanic boys, beginning in preschool and extending through high school graduation.

The districts, which represent about 40 percent of all African-American and Hispanic boys living below the poverty line, have committed to expand quality preschool access; track data on black and Hispanic boys so educators can intervene as soon as signs of struggle emerge; increase the number of boys of color who take gifted, honors or Advanced Placement courses and exams; work to reduce the number of minority boys who are suspended or expelled; and increase graduation rates among African-American and Hispanic boys.

How President Obama Plans to Get More People into Tech Jobs
http://dcinno.streetwise.co/2015/03/09/president-obama-launches-major-tech-job-training-program/

President Obama is launching a new program to get more people into technology-related jobs as part of his plan to boost higher-income employment.

The new TechHire initiative is a partnership between the administration, tech companies and a whole bunch of cities to provide training and job placement in the world of tech.

Obama launches African-American education initiative
http://www.politico.com/politico44/...can-american-education-initiative-130099.html

(CNN) -- President Barack Obama on Wednesday announced an initiative he said will give African-American students greater access "to a complete and competitive education from the time they're born all through the time they get a career."

Speaking Wednesday night at a National Urban League gathering in New Orleans, Obama said he has issued an executive order establishing the White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for African Americans, saying, "A higher education in a 21st century cannot be a luxury. It is a vital necessity that every American should be able to afford," he said.

He added that his administration is "pushing all colleges and universities" to cut their costs.

CBC & Black Business Leaders Meet With President Obama
http://aaenvironment.blogspot.com/2012/01/cbc-black-business-leaders-meet-with.html

In December, Chairman Emanuel Cleaver led a discussion with African American business leaders and President Barack Obama.

The first of its kind, the meeting served as an opportunity to discuss job creation recommendations and cultivate stronger working relationships within the African American business community, the Congressional Black Caucus and the Administration.

Thanks to Obamacare, 7.8 Million African-Americans Now Have Access to More Health Care Services
http://minorities.affordablehealthi...mericans-access-health-care.html#.VTaAffnF9qU

The Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, has enabled more Americans to be covered by health care insurance. It also provides more free health care services that will help keep people healthy, such as mammograms and flu shots. As a result, an estimated 7.8 million African-Americans now have access to these important health care services.

Man FUCK that SHIT.

Let me tell you a story.

I checked my mail today. Guess what was in there??? BILLS. Guess what wasn't in there??? MY REPARATIONS. I voted for that nigga and this how he does??? FUCK OBAMA.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

 

[onthafly]

on some real shit, some of y'all are either trolling,ignorant or just fuckin' liars

this took less than 3 mins

Obama Launches “My Brother’s Keeper”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/21/e...rs-keeper-education-program-expands.html?_r=0

On February 27, 2014, President Obama launched My Brother’s Keeper, a White House initiative focused on young men of color. This public-private partnership takes a “collaborative, multidisciplinary approach to build ladders of opportunity and unlock the full potential of boys and young men of color.”

Obama to Report Widening of Initiative for Black and Latino Boys

My Brother’s Keeper Program Grows to Include More Impoverished Minorities

President Obama will announce on Monday that 60 of the nation’s largest school districts are joining his initiative to improve the educational futures of young African-American and Hispanic boys, beginning in preschool and extending through high school graduation.

The districts, which represent about 40 percent of all African-American and Hispanic boys living below the poverty line, have committed to expand quality preschool access; track data on black and Hispanic boys so educators can intervene as soon as signs of struggle emerge; increase the number of boys of color who take gifted, honors or Advanced Placement courses and exams; work to reduce the number of minority boys who are suspended or expelled; and increase graduation rates among African-American and Hispanic boys.

How President Obama Plans to Get More People into Tech Jobs
http://dcinno.streetwise.co/2015/03/09/president-obama-launches-major-tech-job-training-program/

President Obama is launching a new program to get more people into technology-related jobs as part of his plan to boost higher-income employment.

The new TechHire initiative is a partnership between the administration, tech companies and a whole bunch of cities to provide training and job placement in the world of tech.

Obama launches African-American education initiative
http://www.politico.com/politico44/...can-american-education-initiative-130099.html

(CNN) -- President Barack Obama on Wednesday announced an initiative he said will give African-American students greater access "to a complete and competitive education from the time they're born all through the time they get a career."

Speaking Wednesday night at a National Urban League gathering in New Orleans, Obama said he has issued an executive order establishing the White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for African Americans, saying, "A higher education in a 21st century cannot be a luxury. It is a vital necessity that every American should be able to afford," he said.

He added that his administration is "pushing all colleges and universities" to cut their costs.

CBC & Black Business Leaders Meet With President Obama
http://aaenvironment.blogspot.com/2012/01/cbc-black-business-leaders-meet-with.html

In December, Chairman Emanuel Cleaver led a discussion with African American business leaders and President Barack Obama.

The first of its kind, the meeting served as an opportunity to discuss job creation recommendations and cultivate stronger working relationships within the African American business community, the Congressional Black Caucus and the Administration.

Thanks to Obamacare, 7.8 Million African-Americans Now Have Access to More Health Care Services
http://minorities.affordablehealthi...mericans-access-health-care.html#.VTaAffnF9qU

The Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, has enabled more Americans to be covered by health care insurance. It also provides more free health care services that will help keep people healthy, such as mammograms and flu shots. As a result, an estimated 7.8 million African-Americans now have access to these important health care services.

Most of that shit either applies to all minority groups or the entire country aka the affordable care act although I'm not gonna pretend like it would have even been possible to give black people anything at the exclusion of another group(affirmative action benefits more white women than black people). I thought you would have mentioned the executive order to reduce the sentencing disparity between crack and cocaine. The war on drugs and the prison system are the two biggest contributors to the destruction of the black family structure and ultimately the black community.

 

[a.mann]

Most of that shit either applies to all minority groups or the entire country aka the affordable care act although I'm not gonna pretend like it would have even been possible to give black people anything at the exclusion of another group(affirmative action benefits more white women than black people). I thought you would have mentioned the executive order to reduce the sentencing disparity between crack and cocaine. The war on drugs and the prison system are the two biggest contributors to the destruction of the black family structure and ultimately the black community.

They know who will and are directly benefiting the most from the health care act,jobs bills proposed free community college etc

far as the bold......it's getting worked on



Attorney General Eric Holder wants to reduce mandatory minimums for drug dealers.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/artic...educe-sentences-for-nonviolent-drug-offenders

Attorney General Eric Holder testified Thursday in front of the U.S. Sentencing Commission in support of a proposal to reduce prison sentences for low-level drug trafficking crimes. The goal of the proposal is to address the outsized prison population in the United States.

The measure would reduce the base offense and sentencing associated with substance quantities involved in drug dealing crimes, reducing the average sentence by 11 months. The change would impact almost 70 percent of all drug trafficking offenders, as many who are imprisoned for such offenses are nonviolent criminals.

Eric Holder Backs Drug Sentencing Reform, Cites 'Human And Moral Costs'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/13/eric-holder-drug-sentencing-changes_n_4956078.html

WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General Eric Holder is endorsing a proposal that would result in shorter prison sentences for many nonviolent drug traffickers, saying the change would rein in bloated federal prison costs and create a fairer criminal justice system.

Holder was to appear Thursday before the U.S. Sentencing Commission, where he was scheduled to announce his support for a commission proposal to lower the guideline penalties for certain drug crimes.

Change Sought to Give Ex-Convicts Voting Rights
http://www.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303650204579377061886110996

WASHINGTON—The Obama administration is teaming up with some conservative lawmakers in Congress to try to restore voting rights to millions of ex-convicts whose criminal records bar them from casting ballots.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

he gonna do this... he gonna do that... lol...

 

[a.mann]

Let's keep it 100

A lot of these black "conscious" militant folks are full of shit

and much like their right wing conservative counterparts

they also make a substantial living ($$$) feeding off of their target demographic ignorance,paranoia and frustration

I'll add many of them are planted infiltrators.."agents".....whose "mission" is to keep the community disgruntled and in a perpetual state of outrage.

 

[a.mann]

Shit ain't peaches-n-cream

but to say Obama has not done NOTHING to help the black community?

Absolutely NOTHING he does has or will benefit black people?

That's just a blatant lie.

And then marginalized his efforts when your statement is proven to be a lie.

Yeah, I'll like to know what's motivating you?

 

[jono]

Cornel West is absolutely correct

Where was his great prophetic critiques against power, and why when all these things were happening in the 90s was he more interested in having access to the White House and hanging out with Bill till late in the night? He's full of more shit than a Christmas turkey. Respectfully.

You don't know what you are talking about. West was friendly with the Clintons at one time, but broke with them over Bill's policies, especially welfare reform. Look it up.

So the attacks from Cornel West on Obama have not gone from merelycritical to now more personal and scathing over the last few years? You're going to say that with a straight face?

You are changing the subject. You said something about West and Bill Clinton, and I pointed out that you are incorrect. You should acknowledge that you were wrong.

But we can talk about this too. West has become more scathing, but I don't think it is personal, and I certainly don't think it is about any damn inauguration tickets (which you mentioned a few posts back).

As I mentioned on the first page, West is first and foremost about speaking truth to power. (I'm like that too, and that's partly why I feel an affinity with him.) And he is also against the tendency of some black intellectuals and leaders to soft-pedal their criticisms of blacks in positions of power (if they are not actually supportive of them) because they're black, even though they're not really good for black or poor people. (He wrote about this way back in Race Matters (1993).) So holding firm in his criticism of Obama is supremely important to him, and these facts explain why.

No sir. He has gotten quite personal. He attacked Obama's blackness and he referred to MED, MHP and others as "boot lickers". He dead wrong for that.

"There's a difference between criticism and ad hominem"- MED and he's right.

divide and conquer. If MED has a problem with West, why not have a discussion in private instead of airing this nonsense in the public?

He said he has attempted a few times to settle this privately and Dr. West is uninterested. He also said he proposed a sit down between the two of them and Obama and West said no to that as well.

Assuming MED isn't lying West left him no choice.

I meant that his attacks, despite sometimes being personalized, are not personal. He doesn't hold a grudge against Obama because of anything he has done or not done (such as procure inauguration tickets) to or for him; it's rooted in principle (concern about poverty, etc.).

Well I dont know that... I dont think its possible for anyone to know whether he has some personal hatred for the man, but he has taken quite a few personal jabs, unnecessary personal jabs at that.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

empirical evidence >>>