Since when did blasphemy become the standard in hip hop?

[Bodhi]

I get that difference homie, but requirement or not.... why would you respect one nigga's shit but not the other's if you are the supervisor? seems very bias. If workers were like "Hey get that taliban looking nigga outta here, Im afraid for my life after 911" That guy can sue the fuck outta them but what Im saying is a christian should have the same rights to be offended by having to remove something as somebody from another religion would be for removing they shit. Either you gonna shut it all down or let it all go but dont make it obvious that you're bias as a company by letting one thing go and shuttin another thing down completely

As a company, you cannot discriminate against any religious codes and conducts. Wearing Christmas sweaters is not religious code/conduct. If any other religious person aside from Christianity were to bring something to work that does not fall under code/conduct, the company is free to have that person remove the item. If Christians were required by their religion to wear sweaters, they would be protected.

dont give me that shit man, if you got a warehouse Job where there is no specific dress code until a christmas sweater is worn, I dont think that's right. Somebody shouldn't be on the verge of gettin firewd because they celibrate christmas. If you dont think that's ridiculous then I smh @ you.

I'm just telling you how it is since you didn't know. But if you (or any aquaintances) have a problem with the way things run at your or their jobs, you should complain to HR/corporate/whoever. There's no reason for you to shake your head at me because you do not agree with me. That's the attitude that causes problems in most religions. I don't know the backstory to this woman's situation. It's possible she could have been warned about the consequences prior to her coming in with the sweater. I don't know how many times they asked her to remove it or if she resisted. You're just giving one view out of a possible many.

 

[DR. JEK]

I dont work there, the homey does but I've been at plenty of warehouse jobs. They let you wear sweaters hoodies even gang attire at most of the ones out here. The woman wore something similar to some kinda Santa Clause design with Merry Chrismas on it. The people basically pulled her aside and told her the sweater is offending some people and you have to remove it or get a write up. I take that the way the story was explained to me as somebody complained to managers about a sweater (not knowing if she's tryna honor a holiday that she celibrates because of her religion or not) and had they not said something to the higher ups, they woulda let her get through the shift. From all accounts I heard the lady was taken back by the management even approaching her about it so I dought she was warned prior to consequences.

And as far as America being founded on Christianity I realize that people have subjective views about that sort of thing but guys like Benjamin Franklyn, Thomas Jefferson and a few of those guys that did the declaration of independence from all the stuff I've read either identified themselves as christians or were influenced by the ideology.

And what I was talkin about views being forced on others, It's stuff like California governor Signing a bill last year requiring gay history to be taught in schools. From what I heard Parents cant even pull their kids outta school if they dont want their kids to get taught about that stuff

(which they should have a right to do) because it's a requirement. Yet christian students that dont believe in that cant even pray at school. Im not just making shit up, everything goes it seems for everybody but christians get the short end of the stick because when christians are offended no one cares. When everybody else get offended about something these days, it seems like measures are taken to accommedate their complaints.

 

[Bodhi]

I dont work there, the homey does but I've been at plenty of warehouse jobs. They let you wear sweaters hoodies even gang attire at most of the ones out here. The woman wore something similar to some kinda Santa Clause design with Merry Chrismas on it. The people basically pulled her aside and told her the sweater is offending some people and you have to remove it or get a write up. I take that the way the story was explained to me as somebody complained to managers about a sweater (not knowing if she's tryna honor a holiday that she celibrates because of her religion or not) and had they not said something to the higher ups, they woulda let her get through the shift. From all accounts I heard the lady was taken back by the management even approaching her about it so I dought she was warned prior to consequences.

Well that's the thing. Once something you do or wear offends someone, that someone is free to complain; if that something does not fall under religious code and/or conduct, the company is free to have you cease the act or remove the item. You have your doubts; I doubt she was on the verge of termination. Termination may have been mentioned in her conversation with management but I doubt they were thinking about firing her. But neither you nor I was there so who's to say. We're basing this off what someone else said who probably wasn't even in the room am I correct? Sounds like this story is blown out of proportion IMO.

 

[Bodhi]

And as far as America being founded on Christianity I realize that people have subjective views about that sort of thing but guys like Benjamin Franklyn, Thomas Jefferson and a few of those guys that did the declaration of independence from all the stuff I've read either identified themselves as christians or were influenced by the ideology.

Yeah, like I said, the writers came from different backgrounds but that doesn't mean that the constitution or the d.o.i. has any mention of Christianity in them so we can't say that America was "founded" on Christian principles. What principles would those be, exclusive to Christianity? Truth is, America was founded on principles of man, specifically, white man. The only mention of a creator is in the declaration and it says just that; creator and "nature's god", which by the way are not concepts exclusive to the Christian religion. Thomas Jefferson, for example was a deist. Also, in the U.S. constitution, there is no mention of God, Jesus, or Christian(ity)

 

[Bodhi]

And what I was talkin about views being forced on others, It's stuff like California governor Signing a bill last year requiring gay history to be taught in schools. From what I heard Parents cant even pull their kids outta school if they dont want their kids to get taught about that stuff

(which they should have a right to do) because it's a requirement. Yet christian students that dont believe in that cant even pray at school. Im not just making shit up, everything goes it seems for everybody but christians get the short end of the stick because when christians are offended no one cares. When everybody else get offended about something these days, it seems like measures are taken to accommedate their complaints.

A view is subjective. Teaching the history of something or someone is (supposed to be) more of an objective approach. So it's not really "forcing the gay view" on students. For example, would you say learning about Hitler is forcing nazi views on students? I'll answer that for you. Of course not.

Praying in school has nothing to do with education, which is what school exists for. If you want your children to pray, go to a religious school. Public school attempts to sit somewhere in the middle so that no one's religious backgrounds are compromised because kids in public schools are diverse.

 

[Bodhi]

When everybody else get offended about something these days, it seems like measures are taken to accommedate their complaints.

I guess my issue is these niggaz will disrespect christianity/god all day but NEVER say anything slightly disrespectful towards gays. If they DO say anything that might be considered disrespectful they rush to apologizin to faggots. Its like the roles have been switched and niggaz worshipping faggots now. SMH

The difference is that if gay people are attacked or offended, gay people will boycott and protest until they achieve their goal. When Muslims are attacked or offended, they will protest and extremists will threaten the offenders; usually, the offenders are pressured into appologizing or ceasing further action. Christians get offended and Christians generally don't care that much so no one is really at fault but themselves. It's not like you guys are boycotting Jay and Kanye for disrespecting your religion. Most of you probably bought the album anyway.

 

[blackamerica]

Why do threads like these always turn into atheist promoting they beliefs as opposed to the actual topic of the thread? Thread say rappers being blasphemis and atheist come rushing in with that, "there is no god jesus ain't real" crap. Nigga we know you have no belief system. But why do yall get so defensive when somebody mention god? Why do you have to attack someone who don't have the same beliefs as you? Niggaz aint secure in they theories in here

 

[Bodhi]

Well because you're expressing your discontent with rappers saying what they want to say; some of them being non theists. Some of us, being non theists, relate to atheist/non theist MCs so naturally, we defend their p.o.v.

I'll ask you the same question: Why are you angry that someone has a different view than your own @blackamerica?

 

[ohhhla]

"I ain't Christian but I find that we pray alike." - Nas

I couldn't careless about the theistic beliefs and religion it's stupid in music

 

[blackamerica]

Well because you're expressing your discontent with rappers saying what they want to say; some of them being non theists. Some of us, being non theists, relate to atheist/non theist MCs so naturally, we defend their p.o.v.

I'll ask you the same question: Why are you angry that someone has a different view than your own @blackamerica?

Thats the thing. I could careless what another nigga belief system is. If you believe aliens is god or whatever the case may be so be it. HOWEVER, when a nigga go out his way to start throwing insults and tryna discredit my beliefs because he dont agree then thats signs of a insecure nigga.

I personally believe jesus died for us and that there is a god. But why would I rush into a atheist thread and shit on their opinions. I think some of y'all make up fake accounts just to spew ignorance

 

[Bodhi]

Thats the thing. I could careless what another nigga belief system is. If you believe aliens is god or whatever the case may be so be it. HOWEVER, when a nigga go out his way to start throwing insults and tryna discredit my beliefs because he dont agree then thats signs of a insecure nigga.

Touche.

I personally believe jesus died for us and that there is a god.

I can respect that.

I think some of y'all make up fake accounts just to spew ignorance

It's possible.

 

[blacktux]

Look you idiot, when an "athiests beliefs" start to indrectly impose their will on your life and standard of living you can play the victim.

How can the bully go crying because the "bullied" punches him in his fuckin mouth?!?

LOL@ insecure...go get on your knees and talk to your friend about it you fuckin cultist.

LMFAO!!!

 

[DR. JEK]

When everybody else get offended about something these days, it seems like measures are taken to accommedate their complaints.

I guess my issue is these niggaz will disrespect christianity/god all day but NEVER say anything slightly disrespectful towards gays. If they DO say anything that might be considered disrespectful they rush to apologizin to faggots. Its like the roles have been switched and niggaz worshipping faggots now. SMH

The difference is that if gay people are attacked or offended, gay people will boycott and protest until they achieve their goal. When Muslims are attacked or offended, they will protest and extremists will threaten the offenders; usually, the offenders are pressured into appologizing or ceasing further action. Christians get offended and Christians generally don't care that much so no one is really at fault but themselves. It's not like you guys are boycotting Jay and Kanye for disrespecting your religion. Most of you probably bought the album anyway.

Actually you dont know me very well, or havent seen tons of my other post then. I've never condoned or gave Jay or Kanye ANY props for their Blasphamous content. I was one of the guys on this site that was tryna point out to them that they was sayin the stuff in the first place when these Jigga warriors was on here in denial as usual. Didn't buy Watch the throne or My beutiful dark fantasy because those shits were wack as fuck and the fact they was shitting on christianity wack extra to me. I woulndna bought they shit if they was rappin wit kirk Franklyn so you need to speak for yourself.

 

[DR. JEK]

And as far as America being founded on Christianity I realize that people have subjective views about that sort of thing but guys like Benjamin Franklyn, Thomas Jefferson and a few of those guys that did the declaration of independence from all the stuff I've read either identified themselves as christians or were influenced by the ideology.

Yeah, like I said, the writers came from different backgrounds but that doesn't mean that the constitution or the d.o.i. has any mention of Christianity in them so we can't say that America was "founded" on Christian principles. What principles would those be, exclusive to Christianity? Truth is, America was founded on principles of man, specifically, white man. The only mention of a creator is in the declaration and it says just that; creator and "nature's god", which by the way are not concepts exclusive to the Christian religion. Thomas Jefferson, for example was a deist. Also, in the U.S. constitution, there is no mention of God, Jesus, or Christian(ity)

The reason why I said it was subject is there is it's just as hard to prove that they wasn't practicing Christianity as it is to prove they were. for every website or history book that doughts the origin of their beliefs there are others that back it up. I never said they put it in the constitution though, you misunderstood that, I said they claimed christianity publically whether they were practicing privately or not is a different thing all together you cant real;ly document that but you can document when they had quotes having to do with the bible and things like that.

 

[DR. JEK]

And what I was talkin about views being forced on others, It's stuff like California governor Signing a bill last year requiring gay history to be taught in schools. From what I heard Parents cant even pull their kids outta school if they dont want their kids to get taught about that stuff

(which they should have a right to do) because it's a requirement. Yet christian students that dont believe in that cant even pray at school. Im not just making shit up, everything goes it seems for everybody but christians get the short end of the stick because when christians are offended no one cares. When everybody else get offended about something these days, it seems like measures are taken to accommedate their complaints.

A view is subjective. Teaching the history of something or someone is (supposed to be) more of an objective approach. So it's not really "forcing the gay view" on students. For example, would you say learning about Hitler is forcing nazi views on students? I'll answer that for you. Of course not.

Praying in school has nothing to do with education, which is what school exists for. If you want your children to pray, go to a religious school. Public school attempts to sit somewhere in the middle so that no one's religious backgrounds are compromised because kids in public schools are diverse.

I think the difference in learning about what world war 2 was about, and a sexual preference is totally apples and oranges my dude. No one is stoppin gays from making their own student clubs in school (if so then that would be wrong) to learn futher about that stuff but to make it a part of regular ciriculum is a little much to me. even African American history is an elective that you have to take on your own out here so I just disagree with you fundamentality about this one. If Praying has nothing to do with education and should be a personal side thing then a sexual preference or it's significance shouldn't have anything to do with it either.

 

[blackamerica]

Look you idiot, when an "athiests beliefs" start to indrectly impose their will on your life and standard of living you can play the victim.

How can the bully go crying because the "bullied" punches him in his fuckin mouth?!?

LOL@ insecure...go get on your knees and talk to your friend about it you fuckin cultist.

LMFAO!!!

Now see this shit here is a perfect example of the corny levels atheist go too.

How are we bully's when your the angry one throwin childish insults? If you proud of what you believe nigga why you so mad@my beliefs. Its like a nigga say he a proud fag but he spend all his energy disrespecting straight niggaz. Why niggaz so angry at jesus? Especially when he died for YOU

 

[b@squ1@t redux]

alot is getting accomplished in this thread

 

[Bodhi]

And what I was talkin about views being forced on others, It's stuff like California governor Signing a bill last year requiring gay history to be taught in schools. From what I heard Parents cant even pull their kids outta school if they dont want their kids to get taught about that stuff

(which they should have a right to do) because it's a requirement. Yet christian students that dont believe in that cant even pray at school. Im not just making shit up, everything goes it seems for everybody but christians get the short end of the stick because when christians are offended no one cares. When everybody else get offended about something these days, it seems like measures are taken to accommedate their complaints.

A view is subjective. Teaching the history of something or someone is (supposed to be) more of an objective approach. So it's not really "forcing the gay view" on students. For example, would you say learning about Hitler is forcing nazi views on students? I'll answer that for you. Of course not.

Praying in school has nothing to do with education, which is what school exists for. If you want your children to pray, go to a religious school. Public school attempts to sit somewhere in the middle so that no one's religious backgrounds are compromised because kids in public schools are diverse.

I think the difference in learning about what world war 2 was about, and a sexual preference is totally apples and oranges my dude. No one is stoppin gays from making their own student clubs in school (if so then that would be wrong) to learn futher about that stuff but to make it a part of regular ciriculum is a little much to me. even African American history is an elective that you have to take on your own out here so I just disagree with you fundamentality about this one. If Praying has nothing to do with education and should be a personal side thing then a sexual preference or it's significance shouldn't have anything to do with it either.

Praying in school would be equivalent to having sex in school. Neither is allowed. Learning history of any peoples regardless of background is relevant in educational study. Sexuality is human psychology.

 

[Bodhi]

And as far as America being founded on Christianity I realize that people have subjective views about that sort of thing but guys like Benjamin Franklyn, Thomas Jefferson and a few of those guys that did the declaration of independence from all the stuff I've read either identified themselves as christians or were influenced by the ideology.

Yeah, like I said, the writers came from different backgrounds but that doesn't mean that the constitution or the d.o.i. has any mention of Christianity in them so we can't say that America was "founded" on Christian principles. What principles would those be, exclusive to Christianity? Truth is, America was founded on principles of man, specifically, white man. The only mention of a creator is in the declaration and it says just that; creator and "nature's god", which by the way are not concepts exclusive to the Christian religion. Thomas Jefferson, for example was a deist. Also, in the U.S. constitution, there is no mention of God, Jesus, or Christian(ity)

The reason why I said it was subject is there is it's just as hard to prove that they wasn't practicing Christianity as it is to prove they were. for every website or history book that doughts the origin of their beliefs there are others that back it up. I never said they put it in the constitution though, you misunderstood that, I said they claimed christianity publically whether they were practicing privately or not is a different thing all together you cant real;ly document that but you can document when they had quotes having to do with the bible and things like that.

Jefferson was a documented deist. Look it up. Either way, America was not founded on Christian principles. Refer to my previous post on this subject. If you disagree, prove me wrong.

 

[Bodhi]

When everybody else get offended about something these days, it seems like measures are taken to accommedate their complaints.

I guess my issue is these niggaz will disrespect christianity/god all day but NEVER say anything slightly disrespectful towards gays. If they DO say anything that might be considered disrespectful they rush to apologizin to faggots. Its like the roles have been switched and niggaz worshipping faggots now. SMH

The difference is that if gay people are attacked or offended, gay people will boycott and protest until they achieve their goal. When Muslims are attacked or offended, they will protest and extremists will threaten the offenders; usually, the offenders are pressured into appologizing or ceasing further action. Christians get offended and Christians generally don't care that much so no one is really at fault but themselves. It's not like you guys are boycotting Jay and Kanye for disrespecting your religion. Most of you probably bought the album anyway.

Actually you dont know me very well, or havent seen tons of my other post then. I've never condoned or gave Jay or Kanye ANY props for their Blasphamous content. I was one of the guys on this site that was tryna point out to them that they was sayin the stuff in the first place when these Jigga warriors was on here in denial as usual. Didn't buy Watch the throne or My beutiful dark fantasy because those shits were wack as fuck and the fact they was shitting on christianity wack extra to me. I woulndna bought they shit if they was rappin wit kirk Franklyn so you need to speak for yourself.

I wasnt talking about you specifically, duke.