Since when did blasphemy become the standard in hip hop?

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blackamerica;5141324 said:
West Brooklyn ;5141029 said:
You claim that god has spoken. I do not believe anyone has heard him and I agree with John in saying that no one has ever seen god at any time. God is not patient, merciful or loving. The concept of eternal punishment for sinful behavior contradicts any idea of patience or mercifulness. Neither is god "loving", for if we use the definition of love that the bible provides, we reach a contradiction. 1 Corinthians states that it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. God does not align with any of the three. A thorough reading of the bible will inform you that god is self seeking, is easily angered, and keeps record of wrong doing, better known as sin. By the Bible's definition, god does not love any of us, including you. Luckily for us, the Bible god does not exist.

I wil pray for your pour soul

There are demons that speak you and confuse you into turning away from GOD. Its too much evidence that we were created from an intelligent being rather than evolution. If you choose to turn away from that evidence then debating is pointless. I believe demons live inside those who reject christ and speak blasphemy towards his words. I call for those demons to reveal themselves and answer at this time!!!

May the angels watch over you and the blood of jesus protect you.

How about you answer my posts that were directed to you?

Thank you for your concern and prayer. Even though we do not believe in the same things, I am grateful that you only wish for my well being.
 
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ShiveDreadz;5140381 said:
And reppin saying "give proof for gravity?" i mean i cant even take you idiots seriously.

Stop being a faggot, I said PROVE as in prove it 100% true right here, not "give proof for". The nigga has spent this whole thread playing with words and hiding behind them and I pointed out the inconsistency in his own argument when it benefits him.

hiphop12345;5141143 said:
1. I can't see the link. Maybe the bible should have a embedding coding section.

Circle is NOT an acceptable description for a sphere, especially not by a god or his messengers. Your sun/moom example is beyond stupid.

Also..... A circle is FLAT you retarded. Did you learn geometry in primary school nigga?

2.Why not bless man with full knowledge instead of incorrect information? Also you act as if man was in flying cars when the sphere theory earth was made across the globe(sorry I mean circle). People were traveling the same exact way when man came up with the sphere shape of the earth as they were when the Bible was written. You're an Book, computer, elementary, high school, university reject.

3. Circle is 2D. Your parents failed.

4. I'm in your virtual face confronting you, what diversions? The whole world studied the horizon. I never said the greeks thought the earth was flat. Can you quote me?

Except all of this is nullified by the fact that in Hebrew the word for circle and sphere is the same word.

So once again your original comment that "they thought the earth was flat" was completely erroneous and 7 pages later youre still ducking this fact like a typical moron.  

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West Brooklyn ;5140993 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5140870 said:
1. Sorry for not responding to your post. As for your first comment, everything your talking about is all based upon your own ideas, thoughts, and conjectures. What you deem to be "right and correct" is meaningless to what God has said is right and correct. So you saying that God should act this way, God doesn't need to do this, God didn't have to do that is utterly foolish. God said that the shedding of blood is the only way for sin to be forgiven. This is Gods universe and He made the rules. So if God said that the shedding of blood is the only way for sin to be forgiven, well then that's the only way sin can be forgiven. So everything that your talking about is meaningless. If you don't like it, you can go and create your own universe, which can abide by your own rules my friend. But as long as your in this universe, breathing His air, soaking in His sunlight, walking on His earth, and eating His food, your going to have to abide by His rules and regulations. Amen.

I'm coming to the conclusion of what is right through use of logic and reason applicable for the universe that we currently reside in, given the facts of our reality. I didn't make anything up. Whether God created the rules or not is not the point; my point is, God is breaking his own rules if he indeed made them.

Also, my argument on needing a means to reach an end still stands. The fact that God has to go through a process to do something infers that he is not omnipotent; it means that there are laws that stand above his will.

And the thought that an all powerful, all wise god would succumb to human emotions such as jealousy and anger, prompted by immortal creatures that HE created, is wild.

1. How can you compare your logic and reason, which has been corrupted by sin and limited to it's finiteness, to the mind of Al-mighty God? How can you even make such a claim? What type of superior logic and reason do you have? Can your logic and reason see into the Andromeda galaxy and tell me what's there? Can your logic and reason number and name all the stars of the universe? Can your logic and reason determine the course of all the planetary bodies that exist? Can your logic and reason create elements ex nihilo? Come on bro, get serious for a minute. Your talking out of your behind like you know better than God and thus you hold all of creation in your hand because of your logic and reasoning. Your argument is ridiculous.

2. The whole point of being Omnipotent is doing as you please. So your other argument falls flat on it's face. Who can defeat God and put out His light? LOL! Tell me who? Omnipotence declares that whatever you do will always prosper and nobody can thwart your plan! I just can't even imagine how many pitiful souls there will be on the last day when they stand before the great white throne judgment, NAKED and UTTERLY DESTITUTE of any covering for their sin. The looks on those poor souls faces will be priceless. God will get the last word period. Nothing you say or do will change that fact. Yes, He is omnipotent! Thus I would advise you to submit to His will now instead of later. Amen.

 
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West Brooklyn ;5141004 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5140870 said:
2. The analogy you provided is totally different from the one I provided. But even in your analogy the painter is still in control. The painter can do what he wants, when he wants, and how he wants. Nothing that the painter created, the painting or how he handles the painting, can interfere with His final plan or purpose for the painting. So the will of the painter will always prevail and nothing that the painter created can tell the painter what he did was wrong.

You missed the point again, my brother. The painter is most definitely in control; completely. Therefore, we can't fault the painting for what the painter has complete control over.

So then this would be true:

"When a potter makes jars out of clay, doesn't he have a right to use the same lump of clay to make one jar for decoration and another to throw garbage into?" Romans 9:21
 
West Brooklyn ;5141029 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5140870 said:
3. God has spoken to His creation. God has been patient with His creation. God has even provided a way for His creation to be at peace with Him. But many of Gods creatures do not want to listen to what God has to say. Many of Gods creatures do not want to obey what

God has commanded. Many of Gods creatures do not even want to acknowledge Him as King of the universe. But yet God is still patient, God is still merciful, God is still love, and God is still speaking. God is going to speak right now to you WestBrooklyn and here is another chance for you to be reconciled back to Him, so when He speaks the ball will be in your court and you have to dribble.

You claim that god has spoken. I do not believe anyone has heard him and I agree with John in saying that no one has ever seen god at any time. God is not patient, merciful or loving. The concept of eternal punishment for sinful behavior contradicts any idea of patience or mercifulness. Neither is god "loving", for if we use the definition of love that the bible provides, we reach a contradiction. 1 Corinthians states that it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. God does not align with any of the three. A thorough reading of the bible will inform you that god is self seeking, is easily angered, and keeps record of wrong doing, better known as sin. By the Bible's definition, god does not love any of us, including you. Luckily for us, the Bible god does not exist.

1. God has spoken, is speaking, and will always speak. The question is do you hear and will you listen? On the last day everybody will hear and listen though, and thus every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is LORD! Hallelujah!

2. God is patient. Your still breathing.

3. God is merciful. Your still breathing.

4. God is loving. Your still breathing.

5. For the unrepentant sinner, the moment that God requires your soul patience, mercy, and love will be over. Only the fearful expectation of condemnation, wrath, and judgment will await. But hey, that's what the unrepentant sinner always wanted to begin with. A chance to plead their case before God on judgment day. And they will get their day in court. Stunned beyond belief that they were raised from the dead, naked, and utterly filthy in their sins and trespasses. Naked they will stand before the Creator, Master, Ruler, and King of the universe whose splendid glory will blind them and expose them for who they truly are! Sinners who rejected His patience, His love, and His mercy. Therefore because the universal principle of reaping and sowing will be manifested on that great and terrible day for all of Gods creative intelligences to see, the sinner will stand before His throne ashamed, defiled, unclean, and silent.

God is not mocked. Amen.

 
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5140876 said:
ShiveDreadz;5140381 said:
Too many words being dropped...ill try to keep it brief.

You are BORN athiest, how is that an influence of some one elses ideals? If anything accepting someone elses "truth" would be giving in to influence.

This dude disciplined is really saying evolution isnt real?? And reppin saying "give proof for gravity?" i mean i cant even take you idiots seriously.

After contraception, the mass resembles a FISH as it has gills and a more aquatic shape. Later, as its body forms it has a tail like a REPTILE. The tail draws in and finally the creature resembles a MAMMAL and is born a HUMAN CHILD.

This all takes place inside of a woman during a -9month cycle. HOW IS THAT NOT PROOF OF OUR EVOLUTION?

Its disgusting how much pride you take in your ignorance....i can't wait until the world majority is rid of such a plague.

Huh? So the different forms a fetus takes in the womb of a mother is proof of evolution? LOL! I'm sorry but I just had to laugh. Wow. Wow. Wow. I thought I heard it all. Wow.

Yes actually it is, to see a fetus go through phases of earths earlier life forms and finally become a mammal is CONCRETE EVIDENCE that we humans are the end of a long evolutionary track.

I dont wish to go back and forth with you and the other idiots that deny evolution and gravity.
 
hiphop12345;5141159 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5140911 said:
Huh? So the different forms a fetus takes in the womb of a mother is proof of evolution? LOL! I'm sorry but I just had to laugh. Wow. Wow. Wow. I thought I heard it all. Wow.

Why do humans have DNA to make tails, why do Birds have DNA to make teeth?

That's how God encoded the DNA. It's not rocket science my brother.

 
ShiveDreadz;5141946 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5140876 said:
ShiveDreadz;5140381 said:
Too many words being dropped...ill try to keep it brief.

You are BORN athiest, how is that an influence of some one elses ideals? If anything accepting someone elses "truth" would be giving in to influence.

This dude disciplined is really saying evolution isnt real?? And reppin saying "give proof for gravity?" i mean i cant even take you idiots seriously.

After contraception, the mass resembles a FISH as it has gills and a more aquatic shape. Later, as its body forms it has a tail like a REPTILE. The tail draws in and finally the creature resembles a MAMMAL and is born a HUMAN CHILD.

This all takes place inside of a woman during a -9month cycle. HOW IS THAT NOT PROOF OF OUR EVOLUTION?

Its disgusting how much pride you take in your ignorance....i can't wait until the world majority is rid of such a plague.

Huh? So the different forms a fetus takes in the womb of a mother is proof of evolution? LOL! I'm sorry but I just had to laugh. Wow. Wow. Wow. I thought I heard it all. Wow.

Yes actually it is, to see a fetus go through phases of earths earlier life forms and finally become a mammal is CONCRETE EVIDENCE that we humans are the end of a long evolutionary track.

I dont wish to go back and forth with you and the other idiots that deny evolution and gravity.

If you want to trace your heritage back to a monkey, be my guest. But I just find it funny how people say humans evolved from ape-like ancestors, but yet you don't see the animal kingdom starting world wars, murdering one another for skittles, and hating each other because of skin color. Yeah we really evolved from those lower life forms. SMH.

 
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5141876 said:
1. How can you compare your logic and reason, which has been corrupted by sin and limited to it's finiteness, to the mind of Al-mighty God? How can you even make such a claim? What type of superior logic and reason do you have? Can your logic and reason see into the Andromeda galaxy and tell me what's there? Can your logic and reason number and name all the stars of the universe? Can your logic and reason determine the course of all the planetary bodies that exist? Can your logic and reason create elements ex nihilo? Come on bro, get serious for a minute. Your talking out of your behind like you know better than God and thus you hold all of creation in your hand because of your logic and reasoning. Your argument is ridiculous.

2. The whole point of being Omnipotent is doing as you please. So your other argument falls flat on it's face. Who can defeat God and put out His light? LOL! Tell me who? Omnipotence declares that whatever you do will always prosper and nobody can thwart your plan! I just can't even imagine how many pitiful souls there will be on the last day when they stand before the great white throne judgment, NAKED and UTTERLY DESTITUTE of any covering for their sin. The looks on those poor souls faces will be priceless. God will get the last word period. Nothing you say or do will change that fact. Yes, He is omnipotent! Thus I would advise you to submit to His will now instead of later. Amen.

1. The logic and reason that I adhere to is not "mine", it is the logic of the universe; it is how things work and ultimately are. In other words, reality. Logically speaking, your god is not "all-good" or "all-wise".

2. Being omnipotent means that you do not have to go through a means to reach an end. Being omnipotent means that you could will into existence anything you please instantly. Having to go through a process to reach some final goal infers that you are not omnipotent.

 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5141897 said:
"When a potter makes jars out of clay, doesn't he have a right to use the same lump of clay to make one jar for decoration and another to throw garbage into?" Romans 9:21

You're still missing the point. The painter can do whatever he pleases with his creation but he should not fault his creation for doing what it does, given the conditions he created it with. Ultimately, the painter is the responsible party for any action that the painting takes.

 
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5141945 said:
1. God has spoken, is speaking, and will always speak. The question is do you hear and will you listen? On the last day everybody will hear and listen though, and thus every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is LORD! Hallelujah!

2. God is patient. Your still breathing.

3. God is merciful. Your still breathing.

4. God is loving. Your still breathing.

5. For the unrepentant sinner, the moment that God requires your soul patience, mercy, and love will be over. Only the fearful expectation of condemnation, wrath, and judgment will await. But hey, that's what the unrepentant sinner always wanted to begin with. A chance to plead their case before God on judgment day. And they will get their day in court. Stunned beyond belief that they were raised from the dead, naked, and utterly filthy in their sins and trespasses. Naked they will stand before the Creator, Master, Ruler, and King of the universe whose splendid glory will blind them and expose them for who they truly are! Sinners who rejected His patience, His love, and His mercy. Therefore because the universal principle of reaping and sowing will be manifested on that great and terrible day for all of Gods creative intelligences to see, the sinner will stand before His throne ashamed, defiled, unclean, and silent.

God is not mocked. Amen.

1. Figuratively, then. And that means you can interpret whatever you want as God's word. How convenient.

2, 3 and 4. Means nothing if my final judgement is damnation.

5. Then God is not patient or merciful if I am to eventually receive such a terrible fate. If he is omniscient, he knew what he would do with me from day 1. His patience or mercifulness then does not stretch very far. Actually, since he supposedly knows all, his patience level would be 0. Also, the definition of love still stands and God has a lot of explaining to do for not loving his creation.
 
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5141993 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5141993 said:
ShiveDreadz;5141946 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5140876 said:
ShiveDreadz;5140381 said:
Too many words being dropped...ill try to keep it brief.

You are BORN athiest, how is that an influence of some one elses ideals? If anything accepting someone elses "truth" would be giving in to influence.

This dude disciplined is really saying evolution isnt real?? And reppin saying "give proof for gravity?" i mean i cant even take you idiots seriously.

After contraception, the mass resembles a FISH as it has gills and a more aquatic shape. Later, as its body forms it has a tail like a REPTILE. The tail draws in and finally the creature resembles a MAMMAL and is born a HUMAN CHILD.

This all takes place inside of a woman during a -9month cycle. HOW IS THAT NOT PROOF OF OUR EVOLUTION?

Its disgusting how much pride you take in your ignorance....i can't wait until the world majority is rid of such a plague.

Huh? So the different forms a fetus takes in the womb of a mother is proof of evolution? LOL! I'm sorry but I just had to laugh. Wow. Wow. Wow. I thought I heard it all. Wow.

Yes actually it is, to see a fetus go through phases of earths earlier life forms and finally become a mammal is CONCRETE EVIDENCE that we humans are the end of a long evolutionary track.

I dont wish to go back and forth with you and the other idiots that deny evolution and gravity.

If you want to trace your heritage back to a monkey, be my guest. But I just find it funny how people say humans evolved from ape-like ancestors, but yet you don't see the animal kingdom starting world wars, murdering one another for skittles, and hating each other because of skin color. Yeah we really evolved from those lower life forms. SMH.

I never said i believed man evolved from "monkey", man is "monkey's" evolutionary cousin, not son.

All of those things (on a much smaller scale of course) you listed happen regularly in the animal kingdom. Animals fight and die over territory, food, and status all the time.

If you have another sensible explanation for why the human fetus goes from fish, to reptile, to mammal go ahead and shoot it. Otherwise drop another interpretation and scripture so i can click LOL.

All you are is a joke.
 
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5141876 said:
West Brooklyn ;5140993 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5140870 said:
1. Sorry for not responding to your post. As for your first comment, everything your talking about is all based upon your own ideas, thoughts, and conjectures. What you deem to be "right and correct" is meaningless to what God has said is right and correct. So you saying that God should act this way, God doesn't need to do this, God didn't have to do that is utterly foolish. God said that the shedding of blood is the only way for sin to be forgiven. This is Gods universe and He made the rules. So if God said that the shedding of blood is the only way for sin to be forgiven, well then that's the only way sin can be forgiven. So everything that your talking about is meaningless. If you don't like it, you can go and create your own universe, which can abide by your own rules my friend. But as long as your in this universe, breathing His air, soaking in His sunlight, walking on His earth, and eating His food, your going to have to abide by His rules and regulations. Amen.

I'm coming to the conclusion of what is right through use of logic and reason applicable for the universe that we currently reside in, given the facts of our reality. I didn't make anything up. Whether God created the rules or not is not the point; my point is, God is breaking his own rules if he indeed made them.

Also, my argument on needing a means to reach an end still stands. The fact that God has to go through a process to do something infers that he is not omnipotent; it means that there are laws that stand above his will.

And the thought that an all powerful, all wise god would succumb to human emotions such as jealousy and anger, prompted by immortal creatures that HE created, is wild.

1. How can you compare your logic and reason, which has been corrupted by sin and limited to it's finiteness, to the mind of Al-mighty God? How can you even make such a claim? What type of superior logic and reason do you have? Can your logic and reason see into the Andromeda galaxy and tell me what's there? Can your logic and reason number and name all the stars of the universe? Can your logic and reason determine the course of all the planetary bodies that exist? Can your logic and reason create elements ex nihilo? Come on bro, get serious for a minute. Your talking out of your behind like you know better than God and thus you hold all of creation in your hand because of your logic and reasoning. Your argument is ridiculous.

2. The whole point of being Omnipotent is doing as you please. So your other argument falls flat on it's face. Who can defeat God and put out His light? LOL! Tell me who? Omnipotence declares that whatever you do will always prosper and nobody can thwart your plan! I just can't even imagine how many pitiful souls there will be on the last day when they stand before the great white throne judgment, NAKED and UTTERLY DESTITUTE of any covering for their sin. The looks on those poor souls faces will be priceless. God will get the last word period. Nothing you say or do will change that fact. Yes, He is omnipotent! Thus I would advise you to submit to His will now instead of later. Amen.

@DoUWant2Go2HeavenThought God didn't like arrogance and taking joy in others potential misery? How you laughing at the potential of someone's soul being lost? That's Christian like?
 
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West Brooklyn ;5142037 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5141876 said:
1. How can you compare your logic and reason, which has been corrupted by sin and limited to it's finiteness, to the mind of Al-mighty God? How can you even make such a claim? What type of superior logic and reason do you have? Can your logic and reason see into the Andromeda galaxy and tell me what's there? Can your logic and reason number and name all the stars of the universe? Can your logic and reason determine the course of all the planetary bodies that exist? Can your logic and reason create elements ex nihilo? Come on bro, get serious for a minute. Your talking out of your behind like you know better than God and thus you hold all of creation in your hand because of your logic and reasoning. Your argument is ridiculous.

2. The whole point of being Omnipotent is doing as you please. So your other argument falls flat on it's face. Who can defeat God and put out His light? LOL! Tell me who? Omnipotence declares that whatever you do will always prosper and nobody can thwart your plan! I just can't even imagine how many pitiful souls there will be on the last day when they stand before the great white throne judgment, NAKED and UTTERLY DESTITUTE of any covering for their sin. The looks on those poor souls faces will be priceless. God will get the last word period. Nothing you say or do will change that fact. Yes, He is omnipotent! Thus I would advise you to submit to His will now instead of later. Amen.

1. The logic and reason that I adhere to is not "mine", it is the logic of the universe; it is how things work and ultimately are. In other words, reality. Logically speaking, your god is not "all-good" or "all-wise".

2. Being omnipotent means that you do not have to go through a means to reach an end. Being omnipotent means that you could will into existence anything you please instantly. Having to go through a process to reach some final goal infers that you are not omnipotent.

1. Well since your logic and reasoning is superior to God tell me EXACTLY how many stars exist in the galaxy? I'll wait.

2. Definition of OMNIPOTENT

-often capitalized : almighty

- having virtually unlimited authority or influence

When you have unlimited authority or influence whatever you say goes. No one can tell you "No, that is wrong" and change your mind. That is why God is called the Almighty! He has prescribed the way that souls must be saved and because He loves us, He has provided the way that souls can be saved! Hallelujah! Praise God forever and ever.

"Jesus saith unto them, I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man comes to the Father, but by me." John 14:6

That is the way God has prescribed and Jesus is the way that God has provided. You can either take it or leave it. And because God is the Almighty, the Omnipotent one, and has unlimited authority, if you don't come the way that God has provided you will face the consequences that He has ordained. Amen.
 
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