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You smell B.S. because you are standing in it.eonimod;729969 said:I smell bs.....you guys can't even unite and do music together foh with that...why do you think all of your favorite and/or successful rappers from the east, mainly new york, move to the south, start rhyming like the southern rappers,and using southern beats
hrap-120;729975 said:According to statistics by the U.S. department of Education African Americans have the lowest test scores across the board among all applicants...so actually below what ever average you see posted.
Its not the South's fault that they have the worst educated people, I blame the system.
Kwan Dai;730025 said:Yes, we are and most will admit it. Now our southern brothers have to admit that they are a bit slow. I don't think either is a smack. There is truth in it. We come from totally different ways of life and thinking.
BackInWhite;730019 said:"rza has expressed his blahbity blahbity blah blah blah"
good for him
but this shit right here?
this shit he doin right now?
fuck that shit
make music that somebody wants to hear other than internet niggas
how bout that?
i mean, damn
don't you niggas get tired of debating what some rapper SAID
instead of what he SPIT?
ain't that what they rappers for?
to rap?
shit
Kwan Dai;729943 said:That is truth no argument here. Northern artists have had to move underground thanks to artists like Jay-z, 50 and Diddy. I totally agree. Now, what I will say is, being as though, the south is at the forefront they could bring Hip Hop around 360 degrees by bringing back some thought provoking and introspective Hip Hop. So, if, there is a disconnect this could be why. When the north had the torch and the west to a degree they CHOSE to be creative, introspective, progressive and fresh with their brand of Hip Hop. The South hasn't taken a stand. They have chosen to settle into recycled junk. So, I think that's why you hear and read so much concerning the south and it's contribution to Hip Hop.
Kwan Dai;729826 said:Perhaps it's tough love? Most sensitive cats label criticism be it good or bad as hate.
hrap-120;730026 said:You smell B.S. because you are standing in it.
FOH New York invented rap music and was making rap music for 10 years before Uncle Luke decided to start making porno-rap.
Why do you think all your favorite/ or succesful rappers from the South run to New York to get a co-sign or to get a deal, or to get distributed.
So give us a list of all these NY rappers that moved down south and started rhyming like southern rappers....take your time.
BackInWhite;730041 said:how you put those 2 statements side to side in the same post is beyond me
so you let a nigga constantly and consistently tell you that you're slow
and see how much of a fucking smack it is
Kwan Dai;729976 said:Not everybody. Just the smart ones who undertand how to maximize their finances, and balance family life.
The LouisiAnimal;730024 said:Yo I thought my brother H-Rap was from the Bay Area, when did you be New York Supremist? I'm going to be honest, I grew up in the South(Louisiana) as well as some of the most thoughtful and intelligent people you'll ever encounter. I went to college and some of the and dumbest people I've met were from New York and Chicago. Niggas were straight savages who really just came to college to hustle and said fuck a education. Some of them are actually good friends of mine til this day. While growing I gravitated more towards East Coast hip hop because all I did was watch Rap City and YO! MTV Raps, so I was under the impression that NY hip hop was the standard. However, never once did I feel that New Yorkers were any more intelligent that than any of the rappers down here.
There was once a time when NY hip hop was superior to any region due to their, due to their word play and subject matter. But those days are long gone and culture is now spread all over the country. There are lyricist and 5% all over the country due to hip hops influence, from New Orleans to Detroit and even cities with no major presence in hip hop like Seattle. Just because all you here is dumb limited artists on the radio such as Gucci Mane and Soldier Boy on the radio doesn't mean the dominant music we want to hear in the South. It's just that shit that gets promoted by musical execs. Southerner have a eclectic taste in music because here we had to listen to everything growing up, there was no medium for Southern hip-hop. Groups such as Outkast and Goodie been spreading knowledge since 92, but don't really get he credit they deserve. This shit about southerners being slow and uneducated is unfounded, don't believe everything you hear in the media. Rappers are not representatives of the intellectual abilities of the south, they're just dudes trying to eat off rappin just like shitty rappers such as jim jones and maino.
Kwan Dai;730045 said:Honestly NO!! I never get tired of building and having healthy progressive conversation. We can discuss what RZA has spit yesterday, today and in the future. However, that's not what this thread is currently discussing. You made an un-informed statement so, I clarified. No harm, no foul my dude. You too riled up about nothing.
theillestrator;730039 said:i wish people were this passionate about real careers.
Malcolm Xtra;729988 said:Bro im new to learning about the Moorish movement but im learning A LOT about who we really are i wish i could go to a temple but im out here in the West and the West dont seem to have any conscious movements so i hit up youtube......
I watch a lot of Taj Tarik Bey's lectures on youtube hit that up...he droppin a lot of knowledge on the government locking "blacks" into contracts from birth because we label ourselves brands instead of Nationalizing and becoming Moorish American....The Moors (blacks, african americans and other indigenous ppl of Amexem) own all the land in America but the government claims it because we wont wake up and Nationalize, because it aint nuthin we can do under these "Roman Names" because we dont own ourselves they own us the contract is our birth certificates......Its a lot tho but just search Taj Tarik Bey on youtube if u dont already kno about him.
Much respect, this is just how we build and add-on.7thwardslim;729985 said:Respect Due My Brother....... at times u come off as a arrogant fuck......but never the less i respect u as a man......because u back your word.......
No disrespect was intended by callin us niggas and dogs.....homey....i aint hear to disrespect nobody.....nor am i hear to degrade us as men u know....
but the dialogue was well worth it....... and u know what H-Rap....... damn i hate to admit it.....but fuck man.....i leaving the pig alone my man.....
i havent had pig in a while......but hey i think i can leave it alone.......thanks brother...... i been knew it about the harms and the filth from the pig....
but man.....and double cheeseburger with bacon......oh shit....awwwww maaaaan.......
But H-Rap i got u homey.....keep up the good post...... u good for that...... But New Yorkers in general are ass-holes.....
7thwardslim;729817 said:This what im talking about.......bring us up to speed with moor agenda...... i want to learn more about the moors.....i know a lot but maybe I can learn more
I read alot so im well informed about the Moors and early explorations.....put me on my nigga...... spread the knowledge..... im all ears
Kwan Dai;730059 said:I agreed that most of US NYer's are Assholes as, was said by one of the southern posters. So, I said if, we can admit to being assholes then, southerns should be able to admit to being a bit slow. I suggest you read and cease being so emotional.
Kwan Dai;730068 said:How would you know we aren't? This discussion has nothing to do with a persons chosen career.
7thwardslim;730047 said:We still fighting............we have so many artist in that Jay-Elec lane......we have plenty of backpackers....... truth of the matter is........now how can we con the labels
into lettin artist with knowledge of self, artist who are on a progessive wave get shine......i think Jay-Elec brought the convo to the table......and im so thankful New York did embrace him when the south didnt.......but as a man i respect him so much more for just addressing the fact.......man its been decades that UpNorth Rappers been disrespecting Southern.......just flat out being disrespectful....... dont get me wrong......i like some of the corn-ball ass music......Roscoe Dash-Showout....soon i leave the job in 35 minutes......im turning that shit so loud......but some of these corn-ball ass tracks gotta got........ i just hope we have some artist that can relay to the world that we have to offer then dance music.......
Thats why i want an answer to this question...The LouisiAnimal;730024 said:Yo I thought my brother H-Rap was from the Bay Area, when did you be New York Supremist? I'm going to be honest, I grew up in the South(Louisiana) as well as some of the most thoughtful and intelligent people you'll ever encounter. I went to college and some of the and dumbest people I've met were from New York and Chicago. Niggas were straight savages who really just came to college to hustle and said fuck a education. Some of them are actually good friends of mine til this day. While growing I gravitated more towards East Coast hip hop because all I did was watch Rap City and YO! MTV Raps, so I was under the impression that NY hip hop was the standard. However, never once did I feel that New Yorkers were any more intelligent that than any of the rappers down here.
There was once a time when NY hip hop was superior to any region due to their, due to their word play and subject matter. But those days are long gone and culture is now spread all over the country. There are lyricist and 5% all over the country due to hip hops influence, from New Orleans to Detroit and even cities with no major presence in hip hop like Seattle. Just because all you here is dumb limited artists on the radio such as Gucci Mane and Soldier Boy on the radio doesn't mean the dominant music we want to hear in the South. It's just that shit that gets promoted by musical execs. Southerner have a eclectic taste in music because here we had to listen to everything growing up, there was no medium for Southern hip-hop. Groups such as Outkast and Goodie been spreading knowledge since 92, but don't really get he credit they deserve. This shit about southerners being slow and uneducated is unfounded, don't believe everything you hear in the media. Rappers are not representatives of the intellectual abilities of the south, they're just dudes trying to eat off rappin just like shitty rappers such as jim jones and maino.
StillDreaming;730049 said:Tough love huh? Hiphop came from NY but right now y'all barely control any of it. If y'all wanna criticize then lead by example. Put out some music that ppl outside of NY wanna listen to like y'all used to. Eastcoast emcees cannot make downsouth music so wat grounds do they have to talk down. Good Eastcoast hiphop is wat the game is missing the most right now and y'all can't produce cuz ya too busy hatin. The eastcoast doesn't put out good music anymore and their fans don't buy records so why should we downsouth care wat the hell y'all think.