RZA Says He Hasn't Heard Of Jay Electronica! *DEAD* -- "The South Has Slow Mind..."

[7thwardslim]

Fam I am not using SLOW to discribe your or anyone's else's intelligence level. I didn't think you meant that NYer's shit while walking up the street or smell like doo doo when you referred to us as "assholes". I agreed that we are assholes because, that's the life we lead. Everything is fast paced and space is at a premium. So, many of us are quick to pop off or not be so cordial and laid back. The South is slower, when you contrast lifestyles, goegraphy, demographics, and social structures. Hell, folks from upstate NY are slower then, those from the city. It's totally two different lives.

Shit its the same down here......... im from "New Orleans" and we have a attitude just like New Yorkers.....i wont lie......

We call smaller places country.......just like yall call us country......if u aint from the city......u live in the country....and them country mofos....is slow....

actually in the outter limits of the city......they still rocking G-unit bra tops and the shoes to match........

 

[Kwan Dai]

what?

how can you possibly sit there and say "for some reason"

nigga

the whole thread is based off the opinion of some rap nigga that Southern niggas are slow

mentally

so for you to come in and say we need to admit to the shit

why would i suddenly think, "oh he means as far as how we move and our lifestyle"?

but if that's what you meant then i can and will admit to being wrong

i honestly don't think that's what you meant tho

That's not what RZA SAID!!!!!! And if, that's not what you think I meant after I TOLD YOU that is what I meant then, that's your own arrogance. Had you read my dialogue with 7th this, wouldn't be lost on you. So, persist if, you must.

 

[Kwan Dai]

Who said anything abt radio?? Most of The GOOD southern and eastcoast hiphop was hardly ever on the radio. Ur the one bringing the mainstream into the argument. My thing is niggas from up north can tell u all day why the music from the south sucks but want admit that eastcoast hiphop today is trash. I see why y'all don't support anything up there

Are you reading your own posts? You say in one instance that niggas from up north cannot admit that eastcoast Hip Hop sucks but then, you say in another instance that you can see why we don't support anything from here. Applying a small bit of brain power would lead me to believe that if, we aren't supporting eastcoast Hip Hop then, we have come to the conclusion that it's trash.

 

[7thwardslim]

Peace. I sense the same from you. And for the record I live in Atl. and I have no FUCKING intentions of going back up top. I haven't been there in years. In fact I don't even miss it. I made my life down here and it's been nothing but peace. NY helped me sharpen my swords, and prepared me for life in general but it feels real fly to not have to move at such a rapid pace each day and it's easy to find space. Nothing against my Southern brothers in the real world. That's why I tried to keep this conversation within the fold HIP HOP. Hip Hop is fucked up and the older from up top are just being labeled as this or that when they are speaking the truth. Just FACE who shitted on VH1. NOW THAT'S HIP HOP!!

Same here....... welcome to the south........homey........and for the record....... if u havent noticed.....but dudes down south love East Coast music......

we fucks with a lot of the east coast shit...... and i got u......in the real world....its so much different from being online......online southern always seem to be in

defensive mode......cuz we feel like Up Top been bashing us for years....... but its all love.....man im out till 2mar....... im off the gig......and now its time to

do something besides post on all hip hop......it was fun......fellow-poster.......im off of work....so that mean....no more IC.....i be got damn if i go home and post some shit

yall be easy fellows.....i be back in the morning..... 8:45 a.m................ central time......

Peace to all.....

 

[hrap-120]

@ h-rap

i know many people down here who just can't listen to the radio or watch tv anymore because of how horrible the music is. honestly, i would say the music from the south reflects a lot of what you see from the young people, maybe 13-18 yr olds. Not all of them of course, but many are just lost. some say that hip hop can't affect a child's mind, maybe, but many of the mainstream southern artists aren't helping.

Basically the 106th & Park crowd (13-18).

Thats my only beef with South. When Im watching the 106th countdown and Waka Flacka is #7 and the hook to his song is "ay how we do it, drug-dealing music, I influence, I influence" , and they bouncing around with Vodka talking about burglarizing a house because you spent all your re-up money!?Those little kids be dancing to it...Ijust dont see the art in something that ignorant, I could turn my back and say "its only entertainment" but I see the babies out here dying in the streets because they want the pretty girls, ice, and all that fancy shit and the only way they think they can get it is drug-dealing. If you gonna be ignorant fine, but at least throw something meaningful in it too...

If the South keeps supporting savagery people are going to continue thinking everybody down there is a savage, of course I know better but T.I., LiL Wayne, & Gucci/Woka aint helping.

 

[Kwan Dai]

Shit its the same down here......... im from "New Orleans" and we have a attitude just like New Yorkers.....i wont lie......

We call smaller places country.......just like yall call us country......if u aint from the city......u live in the country....and them country mofos....is slow....

actually in the outter limits of the city......they still rocking G-unit bra tops and the shoes to match........

 

[hrap-120]

brutha New York is the Home of the Hate...NYers hate everything, not just the south. they hate the rest of the north, they hate jersey, they hate upstate, and 4 convienence they hate on each other constantly. its a very competitve place in all aspects of life, and that breeds hate. if u spend time there u come to realize that..aint no need to get mad at it fam, its just the Empire State of Mind. Thats why i cant do nothin but laugh when i see a nigga like Hrap talk about knowledge of self and the people vs the system and all that........and then spend all his time on this board preaching how his set of black people are so much better than your set of black people and tryin to stir shit up....crabs in a barrell...shit is hilarious

(Brutha)?
Foolish negro we off that. Nobody said they were better than you, the arguement is if the music is a reflection of your culture and the music is widely considered as ignorant how much of that is due to factors like intellect and knowledge of self?/ Its real simple to figure out....stop calling me a "nigga" you sound ignorant.

 

[BackInWhite]

Basically the 106th & Park crowd (13-18).

Thats my only beef with South. When Im watching the 106th countdown and Waka Flacka is #7 and the hook to his song is "ay how we do it, drug-dealing music, I influence, I influence" , and they bouncing around with Vodka talking about burglarizing a house because you spent all your re-up money!?Those little kids be dancing to it...Ijust dont see the art in something that ignorant, I could turn my back and say "its only entertainment" but I see the babies out here dying in the streets because they want the pretty girls, ice, and all that fancy shit and the only way they think they can get it is drug-dealing. If you gonna be ignorant fine, but at least throw something meaningful in it too...

If the South keeps supporting savagery people are going to continue thinking everybody down there is a savage, of course I know better but T.I., LiL Wayne, & Gucci/Woka aint helping.

damn
but its cool for 40 year old ny niggas to still be on the block
talkin bout bringin that northface, champion hoodie, and timbs music back
you makin it seem as if ignorance was invented down south
and every ny rapper is on some conscious shit
uncle murder?
tony yayo?
and don't give me that, "we don't support them"
didn't yayo go platinum?
50 sold 11 mil off his thug image alone
and lets not forget about puffy and the shiny suit era
what was meaningful about that shit?
everybody gettin jiggy with it, but its a deeper thought process that goes along with that
that only a new yorker can understand
right?
ok

 

[StillDreaming]

Are you reading your own posts? You say in one instance that niggas from up north cannot admit that eastcoast Hip Hop sucks but then, you say in another instance that you can see why we don't support anything from here. Applying a small bit of brain power would lead me to believe that if, we aren't supporting eastcoast Hip Hop then, we have come to the conclusion that it's trash.

See that wasn't so hard to admit was it.....

 

[south4life]

I was born in Alabama and I'm a big Wu-Tang fan but, Rza really needs to stop for real man.

Half of Wu-Tang's fans are in the South and you are being disrespectful to us, you ever heard of not biting the hand that feeds you.

Your own people in NY don't buy your music like you think they do, they bootleg it and sell it on the corners.

That's the thing that upsets me about these NY rappers, they don't understand that if we didn't support and buy their music, they wouldn't have those platinum records.

And that was an insult to me when he said that Southerners are not intelligent, drop out of High School and get locked up.

Maybe he needs to leave New York for a change and then he would know that Michigan has the highest rate of drop outs.

And if I'm not mistaking, doesn't New York have the most and biggest Prisons and Penitentiaries? And aren't they overflowed with prisoners that they are letting go because of it being over packed?

I never been arrested, never went to jail, Me and my two brothers got our diplomas, I'm about to finish college in October of this year, I have no kids, I never had a disease, I got good credit and never sold drugs or gang banged. So what he says about the South, is totally wrong and there are more like me in the South, we aren't dummies!

Why do New York think that they are the only ones that matter? Wither you like it or not, your family background comes from the South, so when you diss us you are dissing your Heritage.

 

[tri3w]

damn

but its cool for 40 year old ny niggas to still be on the block

talkin bout bringin that northface, champion hoodie, and timbs music back

you makin it seem as if ignorance was invented down south

and every ny rapper is on some conscious shit

uncle murder?

tony yayo?

and don't give me that, "we don't support them"

didn't yayo go platinum?

50 sold 11 mil off his thug image alone

and lets not forget about puffy and the shiny suit era

what was meaningful about that shit?

everybody gettin jiggy with it, but its a deeper thought process that goes along with that

that only a new yorker can understand

right?

ok

Snice u brought him up..............it took Yayo like 4 months just to get over Gold, and No, He didnt Go platinum..........And As For Uncle Murda???? When was the Last time u heard about him??? he got dropped of of Def jam

 

[FrozenMind]

(Brutha)?
Foolish negro we off that. Nobody said they were better than you, the arguement is if the music is a reflection of your culture and the music is widely considered as ignorant how much of that is due to factors like intellect and knowledge of self?/ Its real simple to figure out....stop calling me a "nigga" you sound ignorant.

Theres are many intelligent rappers down south and there are alot of intelligent people in the south. Ive met many people from the north and west coast that are fucking morons.
Only an idiot would assume a genre of music that is purposefully dumbed down to sell higher amounts of units to young teens would reflect a whole regions mindstate and culture.

 

[BackInWhite]

Snice u brought him up..............it took Yayo like 4 months just to get over Gold, and No, He didnt Go platinum..........And As For Uncle Murda???? When was the Last time u heard about him??? he got dropped of of Def jam

ok
what about the rest of these niggas?
ny invented mafioso rap
you can't tell me that a grown ass black man aspiring to be john gotti isn't ignorant

 

[hrap-120]

damn
but its cool for 40 year old ny niggas to still be on the block
talkin bout bringin that northface, champion hoodie, and timbs music back
you makin it seem as if ignorance was invented down south
and every ny rapper is on some conscious shit
uncle murder?
tony yayo?
and don't give me that, "we don't support them"
didn't yayo go platinum?
50 sold 11 mil off his thug image alone
and lets not forget about puffy and the shiny suit era
what was meaningful about that shit?
everybody gettin jiggy with it, but its a deeper thought process that goes along with that
that only a new yorker can understand
right?
ok

I actually feeel soory for you, you must be really young or from the suburbs.

If you cant see the difference between rapping about robbing crack-houses in 2010 and a shiny suit I cant help you.

i dont think you are slow because you are from the south, I just think you are slow because you cant understand anything in this thread.

Let me talk to you like a child. IGNORANCE IS NOT EXCLUSIVE TO ANY PARTICULAR REGION HOWEVER AS OF 2010 THE MAJORITY OF MAINSTREAM MUSICAL IGNORANCE IS COMING FROM THE SOUTHERN REGION.

 

[FrozenMind]

I actually feeel soory for you, you must be really young or from the suburbs.

If you cant see the difference between rapping about robbing crack-houses in 2010 and a shiny suit I cant help you.

i dont think you are slow because you are from the south, I just think you are slow because you cant understand anything in this thread.

Let me talk to you like a child. IGNORANCE IS NOT EXCLUSIVE TO ANY PARTICULAR REGION HOWEVER AS OF 2010 THE MAJORITY OF MAINSTREAM MUSICAL IGNORANCE IS COMING FROM THE SOUTHERN REGION.

Because the southern region has the best beats for the club, and northerners are enchanted by our accents. That is what sells mainstream music in 2010. If NY niggas could dumb down and sell like crazy they would, quite a few have, but they don't have that southern style, swagger and beats that the audience craves.

 

[BackInWhite]

I actually feeel soory for you, you must be really young or from the suburbs.

If you cant see the difference between rapping about robbing crack-houses in 2010 and a shiny suit I cant help you.

i dont think you are slow because you are from the south, I just think you are slow because you cant understand anything in this thread.

Let me talk to you like a child. IGNORANCE IS NOT EXCLUSIVE TO ANY PARTICULAR REGION HOWEVER AS OF 2010 THE MAJORITY OF MAINSTREAM MUSICAL IGNORANCE IS COMING FROM THE SOUTHERN REGION.

the beginning part of the larger sized part of your post
"ignorance is not exclusive to any particular region"
is my point
no need to feel sorry for me, b
i'm just sayin
shiny suits and extravagance is just as ignorant to me

 

[FrozenMind]

ok

what about the rest of these niggas?

ny invented mafioso rap

you can't tell me that a grown ass black man aspiring to be john gotti isn't ignorant

Yeah, at least the southern gangsta rappers talk about shit that real black gangstas actually do. The NY ones were on some fantasy shit. Trying hard as hell to be Italians and lying about how they lived like other real italian mobsters live. They even had skits where they would mimic columbian and italian accents, and in the same song they would call out other rappers for frontin. SMH.

With that being said though, the majority of those albums were amazing though. Do or die, reasonable doubt, and OB4CL come to mind. Even thru all the bullshit.

 

[tri3w]

ok

what about the rest of these niggas?

ny invented mafioso rap

you can't tell me that a grown ass black man aspiring to be john gotti isn't ignorant

Wrong again............."Mafioso Rap" is a term the Media Made up...........they Only niggas Really kickin that Mob SHit was Wu-tang, and thats beacuse they was affliated with some of them Back in the Day............They had a manager that was runnin Gunz For the Gambino Crime Family............Just Cuz niggas talk about Movin Drugs Crazy it gotta be some Mob shit??? NIggas Had Black Gangsters Out Here too, yea shit is TYpe Ignornat to Follow a Figure that had nothing but conpemt for Balck folk, But that cant be worse than that nigga on ur AVI, if u really feel like that then there is a HUUUUUUUUGE problem..........Waka is the prime Example of a Coon, dude represents a Sterotype about Black folk we been trynna get rid of for Centuries; We stupid, Only Care about Music we can Dance too, Dont Care about Readin Much (the anti Lyrics Stance He took) snd we Like Flashy shit. its amazing that a Rapper can Readliy Embody all that and Be proud of it

 

[FrozenMind]

Who got Swag from the South?? Jeezy?? Wayne? TI?? Rick Ross?? The only dude from the south with TRUE Swag is already Dead....

You don't even know what swag is.

 

[FrozenMind]

Wrong again............."Mafioso Rap" is a term the Media Made up...........they Only niggas Really kickin that Mob SHit was Wu-tang, and thats beacuse they was affliated with some of them Back in the Day............They had a manager that was runnin Gunz For the Gambino Crime Family............Just Cuz niggas talk about Movin Drugs Crazy it gotta be some Mob shit??? NIggas Had Black Gangsters Out Here too, yea shit is TYpe Ignornat to Follow a Figure that had nothing but conpemt for Balck folk, But that cant be worse than that nigga on ur AVI, if u really feel like that then there is a HUUUUUUUUGE problem..........Waka is the prime Example of a Coon, dude represents a Sterotype about Black folk we been trynna get rid of for Centuries; We stupid, Only Care about Music we can Dance too, Dont Care about Readin Much (the anti Lyrics Stance He took) snd we Like Flashy shit. its amazing that a Rapper can Readliy Embody all that and Be proud of it

I doubt Wu tang was affiliated with the mob. The italian mob doesn't even allow black people to be made, they are only allowed to be bitches in the organization. Also the shit wu was talking about in records would have gotten them and there families hit if they were really involved in the mob.
Also it is mafioso rap. You can say any genre, crunk, hyphy, conscious, etc is just a name made by the media, but those describe it.
Having skits on your album where you are talking like you are italian = mafioso rap
Talking about mafia crime families that in real life you are not allowed to be in = mafioso rap