RZA Says He Hasn't Heard Of Jay Electronica! *DEAD* -- "The South Has Slow Mind..."

[eonimod]

how is that bs? we do evolve faster than the south. new york is the most advanced place on earth. im in the south right now and its places where the aint even paved with street yet.

Idiot talkn bout paved streets...all them gotdamn potholes in new york city, and all them f'n hills and shit in pittsburgh? Foh, houston shits on ny...I said that

 

[bdbdbd]

how is that bs? we do evolve faster than the south. new york is the most advanced place on earth. im in the south right now and its places where the aint even paved with street yet.

negroe please....u say you in the south but i bet u from new york.....u think new work more advanced than japan? lol they'll wipe new york of the face of the earth with a fucking space lazer beam

 

[7thwardslim]

To answer your questions. No. The sole real reason for me mentioning moving the conversation out of the scope of Hip Hop is, because, I understand exactly where you are coming from. Once the conversation begins to pry into the lives of individuals it becomes moot. However, keeping this conversation within the scope of Hip Hop we can clearly see that, the south as a whole is and had been behind. I don't say so, out of arrogance or entitlement. In fact I think Hip Hop in the south was headed in that direction but was deralied. I also, think the north was derailed with the likes of Bad Boy coming on the scene. Let's not forget that the RZA said (Paraphrasing) that niggas are taking whack loops, playing dress while making Hip Hop into Rap and Bullshit. So, RZA himself as well other members of Wutang have called out nothern Hip Hop artists for the same Backward thinking.

Exactly what im saying.......now we talking.......as a region......its so much harder for southerns....due to the circumstances of the racial prejudice.....

I think Upnorth niggas never take this into consideration.........niggas down south..... and niggas upnorth seems to be lost.......its like we all lost.....

we hate each other......for what......no reason......because this nigga say he lyrical.....and that nigga say he dont eat bacon......and this nigga say

he dont need to be lyrical.........its so much bullshit we consumed with on both sides......and yea like RZA said.....its nigga Upnorth on some dumb shit

like damn what the fuck happen to New York.........i always looked to New York for that pure lyric-driven music.......that music that have knowledge in it...

now-a-days u have to dig deep to find those artist.....because the artist that hail New York.........right now that gettin love......they not no lyrical niggas

i can name damn near all the New York rappers that came out for the last decade........besides Nas....... i dont see none of them "tryna kick knowledge"

Jay-Z deaded that shit............ Jay-z and 50 and Diddy totally destroyed New York hip hop......and its credibility

Actually i can name some 5% and some Muslim rappers.........dont never "Kick Knowledge"...... thats said......that all these rappers would claim

Islam and 5% Nation....... and brag about how enlightened they are.......but none of them have knowledge to share www.truth.com

 

[7thwardslim]

For the record RZA has infused moor philosphy in his Rhymes. In fact the Comic book series RZA did in the mid to late 90's was based of moorish culture, and influences.

I may have to check the comic book out........i think niggas down south skipped out on Wu-Tang.....because all the ninja shit.....and whacked out lyrics....

yall think southerns have some corny lyrics......imagine listening to Wu-Tang for the first time......or see these niggas running around looking like the Flintstones...

and u tell me Down South niggas act like Coons....... i know Busta is Muslim but come Bus...... half of his career he been a fucking coon....

 

[shadb33]

Everybody and they mama moving back down south. /thread

 

[hrap-120]

Exactly what im saying.......now we talking.......as a region......its so much harder for southerns....due to the circumstances of the racial prejudice.....
I think Upnorth niggas never take this into consideration.........niggas down south..... and niggas upnorth seems to be lost.......its like we all lost.....
we hate each other......for what......no reason......because this nigga say he lyrical.....and that nigga say he dont eat bacon......and this nigga say
he dont need to be lyrical.........its so much bullshit we consumed with on both sides......and yea like RZA said.....its nigga Upnorth on some dumb shit
like damn what the fuck happen to New York.........i always looked to New York for that pure lyric-driven music.......that music that have knowledge in it...
now-a-days u have to dig deep to find those artist.....because the artist that hail New York.........right now that gettin love......they not no lyrical niggas

i can name damn near all the New York rappers that came out for the last decade........besides Nas....... i dont see none of them "tryna kick knowledge"

Jay-Z deaded that shit............ Jay-z and 50 and Diddy totally destroyed New York hip hop......and its credibility

Actually i can name some 5% and some Muslim rappers.........dont never "Kick Knowledge"...... thats said......that all these rappers would claim
Islam and 5% Nation....... and brag about how enlightened they are.......but none of them have knowledge to share www.truth.com

Actually i can name some 5% and some Muslim rappers.........dont never "Kick Knowledge"...... thats said......that all these rappers would claim
Islam and 5% Nation....... and brag about how enlightened they are.......but none of them have knowledge to share

Dont say it just do it or nobody is going to believe you.

 

[hrap-120]

Everybody and they mama moving back down south. /thread

Everybody except the Katrina hurricane victims..

 

[BackInWhite]

ain't rza a rapper and a producer?
did he rhyme the shit he's saying over a beat?
cuz if he didn't
i ain't watchin it
fuck i care about some rappin ass nigga's OPINION?
same as i ain't look at nor give a fuck about jay electronica's (gay ass name btw) vdeo
same way i won't look at this one
why don't you niggas do what you get paid to do
rap

 

[eonimod]

The most unsuccesful black people live in the South, you mentioned Maryland which is the North, and many people would argue that V.A. is the east.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income

^^^^^that link will show you that the out of the 10 poorest states in America 9 of them are in the South, and out of the 10 richest states 7 of them are in the east.

Im not judging anybody based on personal feelings, Im going by highschool drop-out rates, S.A.T scores, A.C.T scores, college degrees, etc..

Do the research, the information is out there.

http://www.mibazaar.com/education/actscores.html

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/states/uschartsat.html

And in those statistics, what is the percentage of african american or any other minority living there?

 

[Kwan Dai]

Exactly what im saying.......now we talking.......as a region......its so much harder for southerns....due to the circumstances of the racial prejudice.....

I think Upnorth niggas never take this into consideration.........niggas down south..... and niggas upnorth seems to be lost.......its like we all lost.....

we hate each other......for what......no reason......because this nigga say he lyrical.....and that nigga say he dont eat bacon......and this nigga say

he dont need to be lyrical.........its so much bullshit we consumed with on both sides......and yea like RZA said.....its nigga Upnorth on some dumb shit

like damn what the fuck happen to New York.........i always looked to New York for that pure lyric-driven music.......that music that have knowledge in it...

now-a-days u have to dig deep to find those artist.....because the artist that hail New York.........right now that gettin love......they not no lyrical niggas

i can name damn near all the New York rappers that came out for the last decade........besides Nas....... i dont see none of them "tryna kick knowledge"

Jay-Z deaded that shit............ Jay-z and 50 and Diddy totally destroyed New York hip hop......and its credibility

Actually i can name some 5% and some Muslim rappers.........dont never "Kick Knowledge"...... thats said......that all these rappers would claim

Islam and 5% Nation....... and brag about how enlightened they are.......but none of them have knowledge to share www.truth.com

That is truth no argument here. Northern artists have had to move underground thanks to artists like Jay-z, 50 and Diddy. I totally agree. Now, what I will say is, being as though, the south is at the forefront they could bring Hip Hop around 360 degrees by bringing back some thought provoking and introspective Hip Hop. So, if, there is a disconnect this could be why. When the north had the torch and the west to a degree they CHOSE to be creative, introspective, progressive and fresh with their brand of Hip Hop. The South hasn't taken a stand. They have chosen to settle into recycled junk. So, I think that's why you hear and read so much concerning the south and it's contribution to Hip Hop.

 

[shadb33]

And in those statistics, what is the percentage of african american or any other minority living there?

I was gonna ask this too. Last time I checked the wealthiest black majority county was Prince George which is in Maryland, right by D.C. The 2nd is DeKalb County, Georgia.

 

[Kwan Dai]

I may have to check the comic book out........i think niggas down south skipped out on Wu-Tang.....because all the ninja shit.....and whacked out lyrics....

yall think southerns have some corny lyrics......imagine listening to Wu-Tang for the first time......or see these niggas running around looking like the Flintstones...

and u tell me Down South niggas act like Coons....... i know Busta is Muslim but come Bus...... half of his career he been a fucking coon....

I disagree with your assesment of Wutang. But that's not what we are discussing. I also disagree with your assement of Busta what faith he professes is, of no concern to me. However, I will say the Busta that made LONS a stand out Hip Hop group died along time ago.

 

[eonimod]

New york has a heavy consciousness movement, the each-one-teach-one philosophy is everywhere, thats why you hear New York rappers talk about not eating swinein their records...we are not slaves anymore we dont have to eat the parts of a pig that the slavemaster didnt see fit to eat.

I smell bs.....you guys can't even unite and do music together foh with that...why do you think all of your favorite and/or successful rappers from the east, mainly new york, move to the south, start rhyming like the southern rappers,and using southern beats

 

[hrap-120]

And in those statistics, what is the percentage of african american or any other minority living there?

According to statistics by the U.S. department of Education African Americans have the lowest test scores across the board among all applicants...so actually below what ever average you see posted.

Its not the South's fault that they have the worst educated people, I blame the system.

 

[Kwan Dai]

Everybody and they mama moving back down south. /thread

Not everybody. Just the smart ones who undertand how to maximize their finances, and balance family life.

 

[7thwardslim]

Nobody said eating bacon was evil...we said it was nasty. If you are a christian then why do you eat pork?

Leviticus 11,7-8

And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you. Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch, they are unclean to you.

Islam has almost nothing to do with knowledge-of-self...Im not a muslim and neither is RZA.

Its not something you can preach, its something you have to teach.

If a man dosent have enough sense about the right foods to eat he might be slow.

If the Bible, Quaran, & Torah all say that pork is forbidden and people that call themselves "Christian" still eat it...are they slow?

You just referred to yourself, your people, and me as "niggas" and "doggies", damn near 20 times, and you cussed me numerous times..thats the difference having Knowledge-of-Self.

I might call you brother, family, Sun, God, or something else that reflects our culture, but you would rather call me the opposite of G.O.D which is D.O.G

If the statistics show that the South score lower on standardized tests than other regions why be mad at me if I repeat it?? Go look at the ACT & SAT scores...the educational statistics are online.

Stop being sarcastic because slow people wont get it.

Respect Due My Brother....... at times u come off as a arrogant fuck......but never the less i respect u as a man......because u back your word.......

No disrespect was intended by callin us niggas and dogs.....homey....i aint hear to disrespect nobody.....nor am i hear to degrade us as men u know....

but the dialogue was well worth it....... and u know what H-Rap....... damn i hate to admit it.....but fuck man.....i leaving the pig alone my man.....

i havent had pig in a while......but hey i think i can leave it alone.......thanks brother...... i been knew it about the harms and the filth from the pig....

but man.....and double cheeseburger with bacon......oh shit....awwwww maaaaan.......

But H-Rap i got u homey.....keep up the good post...... u good for that...... But New Yorkers in general are ass-holes.....

 

[Kwan Dai]

ain't rza a rapper and a producer?

did he rhyme the shit he's saying over a beat?

cuz if he didn't

i ain't watchin it

fuck i care about some rappin ass nigga's OPINION?

same as i ain't look at nor give a fuck about jay electronica's (gay ass name btw) vdeo

same way i won't look at this one

why don't you niggas do what you get paid to do

rap

RZA has expressed his opinion through his production and lyrics concerning whack Hip Hop since he stepped in the game. So, he has been paid and continues too to be paid. I'm sure.

 

[BackInWhite]

RZA has expressed his opinion through his production and lyrics concerning whack Hip Hop since he stepped in the game. So, he has been paid and continues too to be paid. I'm sure.

"rza has expressed his blahbity blahbity blah blah blah"
good for him
but this shit right here?
this shit he doin right now?
fuck that shit
make music that somebody wants to hear other than internet niggas
how bout that?
i mean, damn
don't you niggas get tired of debating what some rapper SAID
instead of what he SPIT?
ain't that what they rappers for?
to rap?
shit

 

[The LouisiAnimal]

Yo I thought my brother H-Rap was from the Bay Area, when did you be New York Supremist? I'm going to be honest, I grew up in the South(Louisiana) as well as some of the most thoughtful and intelligent people you'll ever encounter. I went to college and some of the and dumbest people I've met were from New York and Chicago. Niggas were straight savages who really just came to college to hustle and said fuck a education. Some of them are actually good friends of mine til this day. While growing I gravitated more towards East Coast hip hop because all I did was watch Rap City and YO! MTV Raps, so I was under the impression that NY hip hop was the standard. However, never once did I feel that New Yorkers were any more intelligent that than any of the rappers down here.

There was once a time when NY hip hop was superior to any region due to their, due to their word play and subject matter. But those days are long gone and culture is now spread all over the country. There are lyricist and 5% all over the country due to hip hops influence, from New Orleans to Detroit and even cities with no major presence in hip hop like Seattle. Just because all you here is dumb limited artists on the radio such as Gucci Mane and Soldier Boy on the radio doesn't mean the dominant music we want to hear in the South. It's just that shit that gets promoted by musical execs. Southerner have a eclectic taste in music because here we had to listen to everything growing up, there was no medium for Southern hip-hop. Groups such as Outkast and Goodie been spreading knowledge since 92, but don't really get he credit they deserve. This shit about southerners being slow and uneducated is unfounded, don't believe everything you hear in the media. Rappers are not representatives of the intellectual abilities of the south, they're just dudes trying to eat off rappin just like shitty rappers such as jim jones and maino.

 

[Kwan Dai]

Respect Due My Brother....... at times u come off as a arrogant fuck......but never the less i respect u as a man......because u back your word.......

No disrespect was intended by callin us niggas and dogs.....homey....i aint hear to disrespect nobody.....nor am i hear to degrade us as men u know....

but the dialogue was well worth it....... and u know what H-Rap....... damn i hate to admit it.....but fuck man.....i leaving the pig alone my man.....

i havent had pig in a while......but hey i think i can leave it alone.......thanks brother...... i been knew it about the harms and the filth from the pig....

but man.....and double cheeseburger with bacon......oh shit....awwwww maaaaan.......

But H-Rap i got u homey.....keep up the good post...... u good for that...... But New Yorkers in general are ass-holes.....

Yes, we are and most will admit it. Now our southern brothers have to admit that they are a bit slow. I don't think either is a smack. There is truth in it. We come from totally different ways of life and thinking.