The Lonious Monk
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soul rattler;c-9877781 said:The Lonious Monk;c-9877601 said:soul rattler;c-9877584 said:The Lonious Monk;c-9877576 said:soul rattler;c-9877540 said:Fam speak for yourself. I'm here because of my Nigerian father. You keep trying to speak on behalf of most black folk when you clearly have no position to do so.
Also, "discredit" and "attack" are not degree variations of one another. They're two different things.
I'm not speaking on behalf of most black folk. I'm speaking on behalf of myself and no one else. And I've made it clear that I'm talking about those of us whose family has been here for generations. If you're the first generation child of an African immigrant, I'm not really sure how you could have read my statements and thought what I said even applied to you. The average African American's connection to Africa is nowhere near that close. If you're try imply that's the norm or that I was claiming that no blacks in America have a close connection like that, you're being intellectually dishonest.
An attack can be as simple as an offensive action taken against another party. An attempt to discredit the life's work and efforts of another person would certainly fall into that category. However, this is really devolving into a squabble over semantics, which is pointless. That's why I amended my point to be discredit instead of attack, to avoid that.
Because my father is African and my mother's lineage goes up through slavery. So I can speak for both experiences. It seems like you can't.
While it is true that many people are unaware of their ancestry, it's also true that many haven't even tried or cared try because they think like you "I was born in America! I don't know nothing bout no Africa!"
That's that bullshit.
lol Again, I don't know if what I'm saying is flying over your head or you're just not trying to understand. You can't speak for both experiences. I've been specifically talking about the majority of African Americans, who don't have that direct connection to Africa and have been influenced far more by their experiences in America than their African heritage. You can't possibly speak for that side because you have a father who has given you a connection to Africa. I'm guessing you've probably been to Africa and have grown up exposed directly to an African culture. Most African Americans can't say that.
And you may not know what a straw man argument is, but you damn sure can make one because the bold is a hell of a straw man.
My actual point: As African Americans we should learn more about and embrace African heritage, but we should also acknowledge and accept the American part of our identities because it has shaped us too.
Your version of my point: I was born in America! I don't know nothing bout no Africa!
Ladies and gentleman, that is a straw man argument. Please remember that example the next time you want to avoid actually making a point by throwing the term out.
Bruh I know what a fucking straw man argument is. Just because you don't like being told you're using a straw man argument doesn't mean you're not using one.
@ the bolded, you don't know shit about me except what I've told you. So how can you tell me what my experience is? You can't. Just quit already. This is embarrassing for you.
You can say you know something all you want. If you wrongly claim something then you simply don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You not liking the word I used doesn't make the point a straw man especially since the word wasn't even crucial to the argument. It was just some side shit y'all harped on to avoid the actual point.
And I specifically said I was assuming. I never claimed I knew anything about you. If your African father didn't expose you to anything African, you could have just said that instead of resorting to bitchy retorts. My point was there even if you think I was being presumptuous, but you won't address that because you can't. My nigga didn't you say yourself that you had both perspectives. If so, you can't relate to someone who only has one.
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