Roland Martin vs. Dr. Umar Johnson

[5th Letter]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWuI0e2gF7I/

You never cared whether or not he had a degree. At your core, you weren't even against him. You were against his message. You're like Trump and those birthers were over Obama's birth certificate. What you truly hate is the fact that he's speaking power to his people. And if it was anybody else, you'd be just as despicable with your distracting criticisms.

The truth of Umar's message was only accentuated by the facts and statistics he provided as an authority in his field of study and practices. Now that you can't argue against his credentials or facts, just admit that you really are just dying to fornicate with white women without feeling guilty about it.

But now let's discuss why we had the right to question his credentials, since we were proven wrong.

But what they won't do is discuss what it is about them that makes them fight so litigously about his legitimacy as opposed to his message.

Because we need to know gotdammit

 

[The Lonious Monk]

lol @ all these people coming out of the woodworks to bash people for wanting to see credentials. Talking about "Now we can talk about the message," but not actually saying anything about the message. This shit is hilarious. Both sides of the Umar debate have gotten ridiculous. At this point, we just need to hope someone new takes the mantle and can avoid controversy better.

Anyone that speaks against the system is going to evoke controversy. If that is too much for you then speaking on this might not be for you

Not all controversy is the same though. Some is trumped up and some is legit. Some can't really be defended against and some can be squashed easily. And the issue isn't just the controversy, but also how Umar handles it. Maybe anyone in Umar's position would have come under this controversy, but a more mature and skilled person could have ended it a long time ago.

It was also stated that Umar said, Mandarin is now an official language of South Africa. I wanted to clarify Umar's point. He certainly misspoke which, happens from time to time when going off of the dome. In any case Umar's point that the Chinese are now huge players in Africa is 100% fact which, should be concern because, once again it's a case of Blacks around the globe not being totally in control of their resources, politics and economics. And to drive the point home. Umar I believe meant to say Mandarin is now a part of the South African education curriculum.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-conversation-africa/the-latest-linguistic-col_b_8588306.html

The Chinese relationship with Africa in and of itself isn't bad. China is a burgeoning super power. If Africa plays its cards right. It could set itself up to have the kinda relationship with China that West Europe has with the U.S., which for the most part has been mutually beneficial for a long time.

The problem is that Africa doesn't have many strong leaders, so there is no one to ensure that China doesn't take advantage of the continent. It's not too late to turn around though. China is exerting a lot of cultural influence on Africa, but if I'm not mistaken, they are also building a lot of infrastructure too. As Africa gets more powerful the countries in it need to assert themselves more as partners to China rather than supporters of China.

The people that hate miscegenation should be really worried though. China has a problem with its gender ratio. They are set to have millions more men than women in the coming decades. There has already been a trend of those men moving to Africa and making families there, which is really weird considering the Chinese tend to think everyone is less than them.

 

[Olorun22]

lol @ all these people coming out of the woodworks to bash people for wanting to see credentials. Talking about "Now we can talk about the message," but not actually saying anything about the message. This shit is hilarious. Both sides of the Umar debate have gotten ridiculous. At this point, we just need to hope someone new takes the mantle and can avoid controversy better.

Anyone that speaks against the system is going to evoke controversy. If that is too much for you then speaking on this might not be for you

Not all controversy is the same though. Some is trumped up and some is legit. Some can't really be defended against and some can be squashed easily. And the issue isn't just the controversy, but also how Umar handles it. Maybe anyone in Umar's position would have come under this controversy, but a more mature and skilled person could have ended it a long time ago.

It was also stated that Umar said, Mandarin is now an official language of South Africa. I wanted to clarify Umar's point. He certainly misspoke which, happens from time to time when going off of the dome. In any case Umar's point that the Chinese are now huge players in Africa is 100% fact which, should be concern because, once again it's a case of Blacks around the globe not being totally in control of their resources, politics and economics. And to drive the point home. Umar I believe meant to say Mandarin is now a part of the South African education curriculum.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-conversation-africa/the-latest-linguistic-col_b_8588306.html

The Chinese relationship with Africa in and of itself isn't bad. China is a burgeoning super power. If Africa plays its cards right. It could set itself up to have the kinda relationship with China that West Europe has with the U.S., which for the most part has been mutually beneficial for a long time.

The problem is that Africa doesn't have many strong leaders, so there is no one to ensure that China doesn't take advantage of the continent. It's not too late to turn around though. China is exerting a lot of cultural influence on Africa, but if I'm not mistaken, they are also building a lot of infrastructure too. As Africa gets more powerful the countries in it need to assert themselves more as partners to China rather than supporters of China.

The people that hate miscegenation should be really worried though. China has a problem with its gender ratio. They are set to have millions more men than women in the coming decades. There has already been a trend of those men moving to Africa and making families there, which is really weird considering the Chinese tend to think everyone is less than them.

China isn't build infrastructure for African countries.. it's there to take them away. Have you even look into what's happening or you just going off what they tell you

 

[NoCompetition]

lol @ all these people coming out of the woodworks to bash people for wanting to see credentials. Talking about "Now we can talk about the message," but not actually saying anything about the message. This shit is hilarious. Both sides of the Umar debate have gotten ridiculous. At this point, we just need to hope someone new takes the mantle and can avoid controversy better.

Anyone that speaks against the system is going to evoke controversy. If that is too much for you then speaking on this might not be for you

Not all controversy is the same though. Some is trumped up and some is legit. Some can't really be defended against and some can be squashed easily. And the issue isn't just the controversy, but also how Umar handles it. Maybe anyone in Umar's position would have come under this controversy, but a more mature and skilled person could have ended it a long time ago.

It was also stated that Umar said, Mandarin is now an official language of South Africa. I wanted to clarify Umar's point. He certainly misspoke which, happens from time to time when going off of the dome. In any case Umar's point that the Chinese are now huge players in Africa is 100% fact which, should be concern because, once again it's a case of Blacks around the globe not being totally in control of their resources, politics and economics. And to drive the point home. Umar I believe meant to say Mandarin is now a part of the South African education curriculum.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-conversation-africa/the-latest-linguistic-col_b_8588306.html

The Chinese relationship with Africa in and of itself isn't bad. China is a burgeoning super power. If Africa plays its cards right. It could set itself up to have the kinda relationship with China that West Europe has with the U.S., which for the most part has been mutually beneficial for a long time.

The problem is that Africa doesn't have many strong leaders, so there is no one to ensure that China doesn't take advantage of the continent. It's not too late to turn around though. China is exerting a lot of cultural influence on Africa, but if I'm not mistaken, they are also building a lot of infrastructure too. As Africa gets more powerful the countries in it need to assert themselves more as partners to China rather than supporters of China.

The people that hate miscegenation should be really worried though. China has a problem with its gender ratio. They are set to have millions more men than women in the coming decades. There has already been a trend of those men moving to Africa and making families there, which is really weird considering the Chinese tend to think everyone is less than them.

China isn't build infrastructure for African countries.. it's there to take them away. Have you even look into what's happening or you just going off what they tell you

Personally I'd probably say its both. On one hand they wouldnt be there if there wasnt a reason and wouldnt spend money if none was to be made. Goes without saying. On the other, I saw where they are proposing or planning rail lines and things that can have benefits to Africa. It can be a business relationship.

 

[blackrain]

It was also stated that Umar said, Mandarin is now an official language of South Africa. I wanted to clarify Umar's point. He certainly misspoke which, happens from time to time when going off of the dome. In any case Umar's point that the Chinese are now huge players in Africa is 100% fact which, should be concern because, once again it's a case of Blacks around the globe not being totally in control of their resources, politics and economics. And to drive the point home. Umar I believe meant to say Mandarin is now a part of the South African education curriculum.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-conversation-africa/the-latest-linguistic-col_b_8588306.html

Oh so now he misspoke instead of just being wrong? In my post about this when someone asked what issues do you take with Umar I specifically mentioned this very thing damn near wors for word and was told it was a deflection...now you saying he just misspoke lol.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

lol @ all these people coming out of the woodworks to bash people for wanting to see credentials. Talking about "Now we can talk about the message," but not actually saying anything about the message. This shit is hilarious. Both sides of the Umar debate have gotten ridiculous. At this point, we just need to hope someone new takes the mantle and can avoid controversy better.

Anyone that speaks against the system is going to evoke controversy. If that is too much for you then speaking on this might not be for you

Not all controversy is the same though. Some is trumped up and some is legit. Some can't really be defended against and some can be squashed easily. And the issue isn't just the controversy, but also how Umar handles it. Maybe anyone in Umar's position would have come under this controversy, but a more mature and skilled person could have ended it a long time ago.

It was also stated that Umar said, Mandarin is now an official language of South Africa. I wanted to clarify Umar's point. He certainly misspoke which, happens from time to time when going off of the dome. In any case Umar's point that the Chinese are now huge players in Africa is 100% fact which, should be concern because, once again it's a case of Blacks around the globe not being totally in control of their resources, politics and economics. And to drive the point home. Umar I believe meant to say Mandarin is now a part of the South African education curriculum.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-conversation-africa/the-latest-linguistic-col_b_8588306.html

The Chinese relationship with Africa in and of itself isn't bad. China is a burgeoning super power. If Africa plays its cards right. It could set itself up to have the kinda relationship with China that West Europe has with the U.S., which for the most part has been mutually beneficial for a long time.

The problem is that Africa doesn't have many strong leaders, so there is no one to ensure that China doesn't take advantage of the continent. It's not too late to turn around though. China is exerting a lot of cultural influence on Africa, but if I'm not mistaken, they are also building a lot of infrastructure too. As Africa gets more powerful the countries in it need to assert themselves more as partners to China rather than supporters of China.

The people that hate miscegenation should be really worried though. China has a problem with its gender ratio. They are set to have millions more men than women in the coming decades. There has already been a trend of those men moving to Africa and making families there, which is really weird considering the Chinese tend to think everyone is less than them.

China isn't build infrastructure for African countries.. it's there to take them away. Have you even look into what's happening or you just going off what they tell you

China is building infrastructure in Africa.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/china-infrastructure-africa_us_57b32e3ae4b0863b0284d2b3

China is building more infrastructure in Africa than any other country. Chinese banks are financing billions of dollars in new loans, aid packages and other deals to build badly-needed infrastructure across the continent, and it’s Chinese companies that are doing most of the engineering and construction work. Between 2009 and 2014, the Chinese signed approximately $328 billion in construction projects in Africa, an average of about $54 billion a year, according to data from the international law firm Baker & McKenzie. This trend is widely expected to continue as Beijing turns to its new development bank, the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, to focus more of its economic diplomacy around the world on building infrastructure.

Even people who don't agree with China's presence in Africa acknowledge that. That said, the fact that you said China is taking away Africa's infrastructure leads me to believe that you don't actually know what infrastructure is. Unless you believe the Chinese are actively stealing bridges and roads from Africa.

 

[5th Letter]

It was also stated that Umar said, Mandarin is now an official language of South Africa. I wanted to clarify Umar's point. He certainly misspoke which, happens from time to time when going off of the dome. In any case Umar's point that the Chinese are now huge players in Africa is 100% fact which, should be concern because, once again it's a case of Blacks around the globe not being totally in control of their resources, politics and economics. And to drive the point home. Umar I believe meant to say Mandarin is now a part of the South African education curriculum.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-conversation-africa/the-latest-linguistic-col_b_8588306.html

Oh so now he misspoke instead of just being wrong? In my post about this when someone asked what issues do you take with Umar I specifically mentioned this very thing damn near wors for word and was told it was a deflection...now you saying he just misspoke lol.

And he cleared that up in the Roland Martin interview.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

It was also stated that Umar said, Mandarin is now an official language of South Africa. I wanted to clarify Umar's point. He certainly misspoke which, happens from time to time when going off of the dome. In any case Umar's point that the Chinese are now huge players in Africa is 100% fact which, should be concern because, once again it's a case of Blacks around the globe not being totally in control of their resources, politics and economics. And to drive the point home. Umar I believe meant to say Mandarin is now a part of the South African education curriculum.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-conversation-africa/the-latest-linguistic-col_b_8588306.html

Oh so now he misspoke instead of just being wrong? In my post about this when someone asked what issues do you take with Umar I specifically mentioned this very thing damn near wors for word and was told it was a deflection...now you saying he just misspoke lol.

And he cleared that up in the Roland Martin interview.

Yeah, give credit where it's due. He said that he misspoke in the interview.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

lol @ all these people coming out of the woodworks to bash people for wanting to see credentials. Talking about "Now we can talk about the message," but not actually saying anything about the message. This shit is hilarious. Both sides of the Umar debate have gotten ridiculous. At this point, we just need to hope someone new takes the mantle and can avoid controversy better.

i think it is more about......the fight to move past something that shouldnt be important.....to those that made it important to finally get past what was never important...now we dont really wanna talk cuz all the energy was used in the beginning when it wasnt important...

this is a tactic thats always been used to lose focus on what could be used to build.

the cement is dry now....we cant re-wet it and get started again. now the tension in the air makes it harder.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWuI0e2gF7I/

You never cared whether or not he had a degree. At your core, you weren't even against him. You were against his message. You're like Trump and those birthers were over Obama's birth certificate. What you truly hate is the fact that he's speaking power to his people. And if it was anybody else, you'd be just as despicable with your distracting criticisms.

The truth of Umar's message was only accentuated by the facts and statistics he provided as an authority in his field of study and practices. Now that you can't argue against his credentials or facts, just admit that you really are just dying to fornicate with white women without feeling guilty about it.

But now let's discuss why we had the right to question his credentials, since we were proven wrong.

But what they won't do is discuss what it is about them that makes them fight so litigously about his legitimacy as opposed to his message.

This is a great point. I mean what Black men fight this hard to discredit another Black man? It's odd.

this has always been my point....

niggas dont go that hard for proving white men wrong.

who many times has a white PhD had to prove his credentials vs a black person just proving they have a bit of education?

 

[bambu]

lol @ all these people coming out of the woodworks to bash people for wanting to see credentials. Talking about "Now we can talk about the message," but not actually saying anything about the message. This shit is hilarious. Both sides of the Umar debate have gotten ridiculous. At this point, we just need to hope someone new takes the mantle and can avoid controversy better.

Anyone that speaks against the system is going to evoke controversy. If that is too much for you then speaking on this might not be for you

Not all controversy is the same though. Some is trumped up and some is legit. Some can't really be defended against and some can be squashed easily. And the issue isn't just the controversy, but also how Umar handles it. Maybe anyone in Umar's position would have come under this controversy, but a more mature and skilled person could have ended it a long time ago.

It was also stated that Umar said, Mandarin is now an official language of South Africa. I wanted to clarify Umar's point. He certainly misspoke which, happens from time to time when going off of the dome. In any case Umar's point that the Chinese are now huge players in Africa is 100% fact which, should be concern because, once again it's a case of Blacks around the globe not being totally in control of their resources, politics and economics. And to drive the point home. Umar I believe meant to say Mandarin is now a part of the South African education curriculum.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-conversation-africa/the-latest-linguistic-col_b_8588306.html

The Chinese relationship with Africa in and of itself isn't bad. China is a burgeoning super power. If Africa plays its cards right. It could set itself up to have the kinda relationship with China that West Europe has with the U.S., which for the most part has been mutually beneficial for a long time.

The problem is that Africa doesn't have many strong leaders, so there is no one to ensure that China doesn't take advantage of the continent. It's not too late to turn around though. China is exerting a lot of cultural influence on Africa, but if I'm not mistaken, they are also building a lot of infrastructure too. As Africa gets more powerful the countries in it need to assert themselves more as partners to China rather than supporters of China.

The people that hate miscegenation should be really worried though. China has a problem with its gender ratio. They are set to have millions more men than women in the coming decades. There has already been a trend of those men moving to Africa and making families there, which is really weird considering the Chinese tend to think everyone is less than them.

China isn't build infrastructure for African countries.. it's there to take them away. Have you even look into what's happening or you just going off what they tell you

China is building infrastructure in Africa.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/china-infrastructure-africa_us_57b32e3ae4b0863b0284d2b3

China is building more infrastructure in Africa than any other country. Chinese banks are financing billions of dollars in new loans, aid packages and other deals to build badly-needed infrastructure across the continent, and it’s Chinese companies that are doing most of the engineering and construction work. Between 2009 and 2014, the Chinese signed approximately $328 billion in construction projects in Africa, an average of about $54 billion a year, according to data from the international law firm Baker & McKenzie. This trend is widely expected to continue as Beijing turns to its new development bank, the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, to focus more of its economic diplomacy around the world on building infrastructure.

Even people who don't agree with China's presence in Africa acknowledge that. That said, the fact that you said China is taking away Africa's infrastructure leads me to believe that you don't actually know what infrastructure is. Unless you believe the Chinese are actively stealing bridges and roads from Africa.

Idk how you have the patience.....

These niggas don't have a clue.....

 

[2stepz_ahead]

lol @ all these people coming out of the woodworks to bash people for wanting to see credentials. Talking about "Now we can talk about the message," but not actually saying anything about the message. This shit is hilarious. Both sides of the Umar debate have gotten ridiculous. At this point, we just need to hope someone new takes the mantle and can avoid controversy better.

Anyone that speaks against the system is going to evoke controversy. If that is too much for you then speaking on this might not be for you

Not all controversy is the same though. Some is trumped up and some is legit. Some can't really be defended against and some can be squashed easily. And the issue isn't just the controversy, but also how Umar handles it. Maybe anyone in Umar's position would have come under this controversy, but a more mature and skilled person could have ended it a long time ago.

It was also stated that Umar said, Mandarin is now an official language of South Africa. I wanted to clarify Umar's point. He certainly misspoke which, happens from time to time when going off of the dome. In any case Umar's point that the Chinese are now huge players in Africa is 100% fact which, should be concern because, once again it's a case of Blacks around the globe not being totally in control of their resources, politics and economics. And to drive the point home. Umar I believe meant to say Mandarin is now a part of the South African education curriculum.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-conversation-africa/the-latest-linguistic-col_b_8588306.html

The Chinese relationship with Africa in and of itself isn't bad. China is a burgeoning super power. If Africa plays its cards right. It could set itself up to have the kinda relationship with China that West Europe has with the U.S., which for the most part has been mutually beneficial for a long time.

The problem is that Africa doesn't have many strong leaders, so there is no one to ensure that China doesn't take advantage of the continent. It's not too late to turn around though. China is exerting a lot of cultural influence on Africa, but if I'm not mistaken, they are also building a lot of infrastructure too. As Africa gets more powerful the countries in it need to assert themselves more as partners to China rather than supporters of China.

The people that hate miscegenation should be really worried though. China has a problem with its gender ratio. They are set to have millions more men than women in the coming decades. There has already been a trend of those men moving to Africa and making families there, which is really weird considering the Chinese tend to think everyone is less than them.

China isn't build infrastructure for African countries.. it's there to take them away. Have you even look into what's happening or you just going off what they tell you

China is building infrastructure in Africa.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/china-infrastructure-africa_us_57b32e3ae4b0863b0284d2b3

China is building more infrastructure in Africa than any other country. Chinese banks are financing billions of dollars in new loans, aid packages and other deals to build badly-needed infrastructure across the continent, and it’s Chinese companies that are doing most of the engineering and construction work. Between 2009 and 2014, the Chinese signed approximately $328 billion in construction projects in Africa, an average of about $54 billion a year, according to data from the international law firm Baker & McKenzie. This trend is widely expected to continue as Beijing turns to its new development bank, the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, to focus more of its economic diplomacy around the world on building infrastructure.

Even people who don't agree with China's presence in Africa acknowledge that. That said, the fact that you said China is taking away Africa's infrastructure leads me to believe that you don't actually know what infrastructure is. Unless you believe the Chinese are actively stealing bridges and roads from Africa.

China is building in Africa to help china.

those rail lines lead from cities right to the shipping port thats closest to china.

that shit aint going towards the atlantic side.

those africans are working for the chinese.

that shit is sickening to know and see.

 

[blackrain]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWuI0e2gF7I/

You never cared whether or not he had a degree. At your core, you weren't even against him. You were against his message. You're like Trump and those birthers were over Obama's birth certificate. What you truly hate is the fact that he's speaking power to his people. And if it was anybody else, you'd be just as despicable with your distracting criticisms.

The truth of Umar's message was only accentuated by the facts and statistics he provided as an authority in his field of study and practices. Now that you can't argue against his credentials or facts, just admit that you really are just dying to fornicate with white women without feeling guilty about it.

But now let's discuss why we had the right to question his credentials, since we were proven wrong.

But what they won't do is discuss what it is about them that makes them fight so litigously about his legitimacy as opposed to his message.

This is a great point. I mean what Black men fight this hard to discredit another Black man? It's odd.

this has always been my point....

niggas dont go that hard for proving white men wrong.

who many times has a white PhD had to prove his credentials vs a black person just proving they have a bit of education?

For all y'all that say you don't care about white folks y'all sure do alot of comparing to them...and you know damn well if a white person was speaking on issues pertaining to the black community the 1st thing niggas wouls say is "What gives them the right/authority to speak on that?" Bottom line is in general people like to know that someone they're listening to actually knows what the fuck they're talking about. To try and make that a bad thing is just stupid.

 

[NoCompetition]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWuI0e2gF7I/

You never cared whether or not he had a degree. At your core, you weren't even against him. You were against his message. You're like Trump and those birthers were over Obama's birth certificate. What you truly hate is the fact that he's speaking power to his people. And if it was anybody else, you'd be just as despicable with your distracting criticisms.

The truth of Umar's message was only accentuated by the facts and statistics he provided as an authority in his field of study and practices. Now that you can't argue against his credentials or facts, just admit that you really are just dying to fornicate with white women without feeling guilty about it.

But now let's discuss why we had the right to question his credentials, since we were proven wrong.

But what they won't do is discuss what it is about them that makes them fight so litigously about his legitimacy as opposed to his message.

This is a great point. I mean what Black men fight this hard to discredit another Black man? It's odd.

this has always been my point....

niggas dont go that hard for proving white men wrong.

who many times has a white PhD had to prove his credentials vs a black person just proving they have a bit of education?

I think it can be quite damaging to have someone misleading and confusing people. It can set people back actually. So inaccuracies and misjudgements and misdirections shouldnt be allowed to go unchecked. Its not a whole sum proposition though. There are things on both sides of the spectrum. And things that can actually help people in their real lives. Even though the points on this side of the spectrum are numerous I also gave the example of what I saw him giving advice to kids entering college age where I think he nailed some things.But just ano ole thing wont fly. Come correct.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWuI0e2gF7I/

You never cared whether or not he had a degree. At your core, you weren't even against him. You were against his message. You're like Trump and those birthers were over Obama's birth certificate. What you truly hate is the fact that he's speaking power to his people. And if it was anybody else, you'd be just as despicable with your distracting criticisms.

The truth of Umar's message was only accentuated by the facts and statistics he provided as an authority in his field of study and practices. Now that you can't argue against his credentials or facts, just admit that you really are just dying to fornicate with white women without feeling guilty about it.

But now let's discuss why we had the right to question his credentials, since we were proven wrong.

But what they won't do is discuss what it is about them that makes them fight so litigously about his legitimacy as opposed to his message.

This is a great point. I mean what Black men fight this hard to discredit another Black man? It's odd.

this has always been my point....

niggas dont go that hard for proving white men wrong.

who many times has a white PhD had to prove his credentials vs a black person just proving they have a bit of education?

For all y'all that say you don't care about white folks y'all sure do alot of comparing to them...and you know damn well if a white person was speaking on issues pertaining to the black community the 1st thing niggas wouls say is "What gives them the right/authority to speak on that?" Bottom line is in general people like to know that someone they're listening to actually knows what the fuck they're talking about. To try and make that a bad thing is just stupid.

nah....i think we are too fast to ask for a historical background on our own while letting the other guys go too easy.

its not a bad thing...i think its bad to require it too fast from our own.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWuI0e2gF7I/

You never cared whether or not he had a degree. At your core, you weren't even against him. You were against his message. You're like Trump and those birthers were over Obama's birth certificate. What you truly hate is the fact that he's speaking power to his people. And if it was anybody else, you'd be just as despicable with your distracting criticisms.

The truth of Umar's message was only accentuated by the facts and statistics he provided as an authority in his field of study and practices. Now that you can't argue against his credentials or facts, just admit that you really are just dying to fornicate with white women without feeling guilty about it.

But now let's discuss why we had the right to question his credentials, since we were proven wrong.

But what they won't do is discuss what it is about them that makes them fight so litigously about his legitimacy as opposed to his message.

This is a great point. I mean what Black men fight this hard to discredit another Black man? It's odd.

this has always been my point....

niggas dont go that hard for proving white men wrong.

who many times has a white PhD had to prove his credentials vs a black person just proving they have a bit of education?

I think it can be quite damaging to have someone misleading and confusing people. It can set people back actually. So inaccuracies and misjudgements and misdirections shouldnt be allowed to go unchecked. Its not a whole sum proposition though. There are things on both sides of the spectrum. And things that can actually help people in their real lives. Even though the points on this side of the spectrum are numerous I also gave the example of what I saw him giving advice to kids entering college age where I think he nailed some things.But just ano ole thing wont fly. Come correct.

how often on a Sunday do people challenge whats said or preacher to a congregation?

you know....i was just having this talk. a person who goes to college to study theology can preach and show documentation but a person sent from God could be labeled as crazy and whats his credentials...

when in the bible is doesnt state that you need a degree to preach and lists specific things that would qualify someone...but to look deeper into some of these preachers background...their history is checkered an they use it as a way to say....i have gotten better. started from the bottom now im here.

even when what the preacher say is wrong...people still go back the next sunday to feel good and be inspired.

so when we talk about preying on weak people.....lets start there.

we can then go to the govt....

we can then go to the gang leaders and members

we can then go to the real niggas who pick on those who aint in that life

we can take this so many other bigger places than 1 MAN who didnt show his degree.

 

[blackrain]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWuI0e2gF7I/

You never cared whether or not he had a degree. At your core, you weren't even against him. You were against his message. You're like Trump and those birthers were over Obama's birth certificate. What you truly hate is the fact that he's speaking power to his people. And if it was anybody else, you'd be just as despicable with your distracting criticisms.

The truth of Umar's message was only accentuated by the facts and statistics he provided as an authority in his field of study and practices. Now that you can't argue against his credentials or facts, just admit that you really are just dying to fornicate with white women without feeling guilty about it.

But now let's discuss why we had the right to question his credentials, since we were proven wrong.

But what they won't do is discuss what it is about them that makes them fight so litigously about his legitimacy as opposed to his message.

This is a great point. I mean what Black men fight this hard to discredit another Black man? It's odd.

this has always been my point....

niggas dont go that hard for proving white men wrong.

who many times has a white PhD had to prove his credentials vs a black person just proving they have a bit of education?

I think it can be quite damaging to have someone misleading and confusing people. It can set people back actually. So inaccuracies and misjudgements and misdirections shouldnt be allowed to go unchecked. Its not a whole sum proposition though. There are things on both sides of the spectrum. And things that can actually help people in their real lives. Even though the points on this side of the spectrum are numerous I also gave the example of what I saw him giving advice to kids entering college age where I think he nailed some things.But just ano ole thing wont fly. Come correct.

how often on a Sunday do people challenge whats said or preacher to a congregation?

you know....i was just having this talk. a person who goes to college to study theology can preach and show documentation but a person sent from God could be labeled as crazy and whats his credentials...

when in the bible is doesnt state that you need a degree to preach and lists specific things that would qualify someone...but to look deeper into some of these preachers background...their history is checkered an they use it as a way to say....i have gotten better. started from the bottom now im here.

even when what the preacher say is wrong...people still go back the next sunday to feel good and be inspired.

so when we talk about preying on weak people.....lets start there.

we can then go to the govt....

we can then go to the gang leaders and members

we can then go to the real niggas who pick on those who aint in that life

we can take this so many other bigger places than 1 MAN who didnt show his degree.

You're currently living in a time period where less people than ever follow any form of organized religion for just that reason...people challenging whats being taught and preached in church and the Bible...

 

[2stepz_ahead]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWuI0e2gF7I/

You never cared whether or not he had a degree. At your core, you weren't even against him. You were against his message. You're like Trump and those birthers were over Obama's birth certificate. What you truly hate is the fact that he's speaking power to his people. And if it was anybody else, you'd be just as despicable with your distracting criticisms.

The truth of Umar's message was only accentuated by the facts and statistics he provided as an authority in his field of study and practices. Now that you can't argue against his credentials or facts, just admit that you really are just dying to fornicate with white women without feeling guilty about it.

But now let's discuss why we had the right to question his credentials, since we were proven wrong.

But what they won't do is discuss what it is about them that makes them fight so litigously about his legitimacy as opposed to his message.

This is a great point. I mean what Black men fight this hard to discredit another Black man? It's odd.

this has always been my point....

niggas dont go that hard for proving white men wrong.

who many times has a white PhD had to prove his credentials vs a black person just proving they have a bit of education?

I think it can be quite damaging to have someone misleading and confusing people. It can set people back actually. So inaccuracies and misjudgements and misdirections shouldnt be allowed to go unchecked. Its not a whole sum proposition though. There are things on both sides of the spectrum. And things that can actually help people in their real lives. Even though the points on this side of the spectrum are numerous I also gave the example of what I saw him giving advice to kids entering college age where I think he nailed some things.But just ano ole thing wont fly. Come correct.

how often on a Sunday do people challenge whats said or preacher to a congregation?

you know....i was just having this talk. a person who goes to college to study theology can preach and show documentation but a person sent from God could be labeled as crazy and whats his credentials...

when in the bible is doesnt state that you need a degree to preach and lists specific things that would qualify someone...but to look deeper into some of these preachers background...their history is checkered an they use it as a way to say....i have gotten better. started from the bottom now im here.

even when what the preacher say is wrong...people still go back the next sunday to feel good and be inspired.

so when we talk about preying on weak people.....lets start there.

we can then go to the govt....

we can then go to the gang leaders and members

we can then go to the real niggas who pick on those who aint in that life

we can take this so many other bigger places than 1 MAN who didnt show his degree.

You're currently living in a time period where less people than ever follow any form of organized religion for just that reason...people challenging whats being taught and preached in church and the Bible...

when was the last time you been to an empty or half empty black church that didnt have three other churchs within a 5 mile radius?

 

[bambu]

lol @ all these people coming out of the woodworks to bash people for wanting to see credentials. Talking about "Now we can talk about the message," but not actually saying anything about the message. This shit is hilarious. Both sides of the Umar debate have gotten ridiculous. At this point, we just need to hope someone new takes the mantle and can avoid controversy better.

Anyone that speaks against the system is going to evoke controversy. If that is too much for you then speaking on this might not be for you

Not all controversy is the same though. Some is trumped up and some is legit. Some can't really be defended against and some can be squashed easily. And the issue isn't just the controversy, but also how Umar handles it. Maybe anyone in Umar's position would have come under this controversy, but a more mature and skilled person could have ended it a long time ago.

It was also stated that Umar said, Mandarin is now an official language of South Africa. I wanted to clarify Umar's point. He certainly misspoke which, happens from time to time when going off of the dome. In any case Umar's point that the Chinese are now huge players in Africa is 100% fact which, should be concern because, once again it's a case of Blacks around the globe not being totally in control of their resources, politics and economics. And to drive the point home. Umar I believe meant to say Mandarin is now a part of the South African education curriculum.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-conversation-africa/the-latest-linguistic-col_b_8588306.html

The Chinese relationship with Africa in and of itself isn't bad. China is a burgeoning super power. If Africa plays its cards right. It could set itself up to have the kinda relationship with China that West Europe has with the U.S., which for the most part has been mutually beneficial for a long time.

The problem is that Africa doesn't have many strong leaders, so there is no one to ensure that China doesn't take advantage of the continent. It's not too late to turn around though. China is exerting a lot of cultural influence on Africa, but if I'm not mistaken, they are also building a lot of infrastructure too. As Africa gets more powerful the countries in it need to assert themselves more as partners to China rather than supporters of China.

The people that hate miscegenation should be really worried though. China has a problem with its gender ratio. They are set to have millions more men than women in the coming decades. There has already been a trend of those men moving to Africa and making families there, which is really weird considering the Chinese tend to think everyone is less than them.

China isn't build infrastructure for African countries.. it's there to take them away. Have you even look into what's happening or you just going off what they tell you

China is building infrastructure in Africa.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/china-infrastructure-africa_us_57b32e3ae4b0863b0284d2b3

China is building more infrastructure in Africa than any other country. Chinese banks are financing billions of dollars in new loans, aid packages and other deals to build badly-needed infrastructure across the continent, and it’s Chinese companies that are doing most of the engineering and construction work. Between 2009 and 2014, the Chinese signed approximately $328 billion in construction projects in Africa, an average of about $54 billion a year, according to data from the international law firm Baker & McKenzie. This trend is widely expected to continue as Beijing turns to its new development bank, the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, to focus more of its economic diplomacy around the world on building infrastructure.

Even people who don't agree with China's presence in Africa acknowledge that. That said, the fact that you said China is taking away Africa's infrastructure leads me to believe that you don't actually know what infrastructure is. Unless you believe the Chinese are actively stealing bridges and roads from Africa.

China is building in Africa to help china.

those rail lines lead from cities right to the shipping port thats closest to china.

that shit aint going towards the atlantic side.

those africans are working for the chinese.

that shit is sickening to know and see.

The Chinese are not colonizing African nations....

They are investing where the western world will not....

It could be mutually beneficial......

 

[The Lonious Monk]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWuI0e2gF7I/

You never cared whether or not he had a degree. At your core, you weren't even against him. You were against his message. You're like Trump and those birthers were over Obama's birth certificate. What you truly hate is the fact that he's speaking power to his people. And if it was anybody else, you'd be just as despicable with your distracting criticisms.

The truth of Umar's message was only accentuated by the facts and statistics he provided as an authority in his field of study and practices. Now that you can't argue against his credentials or facts, just admit that you really are just dying to fornicate with white women without feeling guilty about it.

But now let's discuss why we had the right to question his credentials, since we were proven wrong.

But what they won't do is discuss what it is about them that makes them fight so litigously about his legitimacy as opposed to his message.

This is a great point. I mean what Black men fight this hard to discredit another Black man? It's odd.

this has always been my point....

niggas dont go that hard for proving white men wrong.

who many times has a white PhD had to prove his credentials vs a black person just proving they have a bit of education?

When is the last time a white person with credentials avoided showing their credentials. If anything white people tend to over emphasize degrees. So what GW Bush had a degree from Harvard. He's still and idiot.

lol @ all these people coming out of the woodworks to bash people for wanting to see credentials. Talking about "Now we can talk about the message," but not actually saying anything about the message. This shit is hilarious. Both sides of the Umar debate have gotten ridiculous. At this point, we just need to hope someone new takes the mantle and can avoid controversy better.

Anyone that speaks against the system is going to evoke controversy. If that is too much for you then speaking on this might not be for you

Not all controversy is the same though. Some is trumped up and some is legit. Some can't really be defended against and some can be squashed easily. And the issue isn't just the controversy, but also how Umar handles it. Maybe anyone in Umar's position would have come under this controversy, but a more mature and skilled person could have ended it a long time ago.

It was also stated that Umar said, Mandarin is now an official language of South Africa. I wanted to clarify Umar's point. He certainly misspoke which, happens from time to time when going off of the dome. In any case Umar's point that the Chinese are now huge players in Africa is 100% fact which, should be concern because, once again it's a case of Blacks around the globe not being totally in control of their resources, politics and economics. And to drive the point home. Umar I believe meant to say Mandarin is now a part of the South African education curriculum.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-conversation-africa/the-latest-linguistic-col_b_8588306.html

The Chinese relationship with Africa in and of itself isn't bad. China is a burgeoning super power. If Africa plays its cards right. It could set itself up to have the kinda relationship with China that West Europe has with the U.S., which for the most part has been mutually beneficial for a long time.

The problem is that Africa doesn't have many strong leaders, so there is no one to ensure that China doesn't take advantage of the continent. It's not too late to turn around though. China is exerting a lot of cultural influence on Africa, but if I'm not mistaken, they are also building a lot of infrastructure too. As Africa gets more powerful the countries in it need to assert themselves more as partners to China rather than supporters of China.

The people that hate miscegenation should be really worried though. China has a problem with its gender ratio. They are set to have millions more men than women in the coming decades. There has already been a trend of those men moving to Africa and making families there, which is really weird considering the Chinese tend to think everyone is less than them.

China isn't build infrastructure for African countries.. it's there to take them away. Have you even look into what's happening or you just going off what they tell you

China is building infrastructure in Africa.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/china-infrastructure-africa_us_57b32e3ae4b0863b0284d2b3

China is building more infrastructure in Africa than any other country. Chinese banks are financing billions of dollars in new loans, aid packages and other deals to build badly-needed infrastructure across the continent, and it’s Chinese companies that are doing most of the engineering and construction work. Between 2009 and 2014, the Chinese signed approximately $328 billion in construction projects in Africa, an average of about $54 billion a year, according to data from the international law firm Baker & McKenzie. This trend is widely expected to continue as Beijing turns to its new development bank, the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, to focus more of its economic diplomacy around the world on building infrastructure.

Even people who don't agree with China's presence in Africa acknowledge that. That said, the fact that you said China is taking away Africa's infrastructure leads me to believe that you don't actually know what infrastructure is. Unless you believe the Chinese are actively stealing bridges and roads from Africa.

China is building in Africa to help china.

those rail lines lead from cities right to the shipping port thats closest to china.

that shit aint going towards the atlantic side.

those africans are working for the chinese.

that shit is sickening to know and see.

lol Of course they are. China is serving China's interests, the same way all countries do. It's not on them to make sure that Africa is getting what it needs out of the deal. It's up to the Africans to do that. People are accusing China of exploiting Africa, and that's probably somewhat accurate. But really it's more like they are investing in Africa and making deals that are skewed to their own benefit. That's something everyone tries to do when making an investment. I'm not claiming the Chinese are good people because of what they are doing in Africa. The Chinese might actually be far more racist than whites, but at least with their exploitation, they are doing it from a business standpoint where Africans at least have a chance at negotiating and benefitting. That's a lot better than what the Euros did with colonialism.