Really?Who does This?Choosing your Mate over your Child

[2stepz_ahead]

how you have enough but not enough,?

I'm not so much arguing with you, more so just reiterating my views.

Whether you agree/disagree is borderline irrelevant to me at this point.

.. One of my son's was just bad. My wife and I couldn't understand it. 3 kids doing it the right way. One kid stealing getting suspended and bad grades. Raised in the same house the same way but wanted to do his own thing ..

"Raised the same way," that was the problem.

Not all kids are the same, they're people, and a person's character being intrinsic is debatable. But inherent evil is a pretty hefty subject..

Disagreeing with you (especially if your other three children were predominantly compliant) isn't "bad." Some kids are actually smarter than others. Rebellion can be a sign of that, especially if the Parenting style being deployed leans on strictness and sheltering.

But I don't know your situation, so won't I disrespect you by insinuating that you didn't do all you knew to do.

But I will say that sometimes "the best of your ability" isn't open-minded enough.. Which can indeed result in failure.

Parenting is something u learn as go. We did all we could. The more we learned the more we applied. I'm not sure how anyone can say another parent failed when there isn't a right or wrong way. U raise ur kids to the best of ur ability. It doesn't mean ur close minded. If u have kids now ur raising them to the best of ur ability. Tomorrow u might learn something and u will apply that. U never stop learning as a parent.

As for raising them all the same I guess that's wrong way to say it. I was trying to get at the fact that my wife and I focused on all of them equally. They are 4 very different kids so we were all over the place but none can say my mom or dad put more into one.

Before u break that down and say some need more attention. Yes we did that when needed. Im not sure how properly get across our parenting thru text. I tried to be the absolute best father. Love compassion time focus energy understanding support cheerleading discipline and more stuff. At the end of the day the child will still do what they want. Sometimes that shit is good and sometimes it's bad.

goat shit...

punk

 

[2stepz_ahead]

How about breathing under water!! :joy: :joy: :joy:

@VulcanRaven

keep ya trap shut...

you still acting up?

you ain't squeeze shit out ya pusdylips ydt but a condom that feel off that lil dikk nigga you fukking with.

come over to a real nigga....I'm crazy an all...but I'll blow ya back out and show you the world at a high legal level..you won't think about Chicago or the nigga calling you to see if you ok...only catch is you might get killed trynna leave me...

so what's up

 

[Trillfate]

How about breathing under water!! :joy: :joy: :joy:

VulcanRaven

keep ya trap shut...

you still acting up?

you ain't squeeze shit out ya pusdylips ydt but a condom that feel off that lil dikk nigga you fukking with.

come over to a real nigga....I'm crazy an all...but I'll blow ya back out and show you the world at a high legal level..you won't think about Chicago or the nigga calling you to see if you ok...only catch is you might get killed trynna leave me...

so what's up

U said u don't wanna step on my toes but i read this post now my whole foot hurts :s

 

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

How about breathing under water!! :joy: :joy: :joy:

@VulcanRaven

keep ya trap shut...

you still acting up?

you ain't squeeze shit out ya pusdylips ydt but a condom that feel off that lil dikk nigga you fukking with.

come over to a real nigga....I'm crazy an all...but I'll blow ya back out and show you the world at a high legal level..you won't think about Chicago or the nigga calling you to see if you ok...only catch is you might get killed trynna leave me...

so what's up

Ya know it's so interesting that when discussing parenting, the first thing people love to say is "well you don't have kids, what would you know?"

As if you have to be a parent to know its clearly wrong to render a 13 year old homeless for being disrespectful.

 

[VulcanRaven]

My god @2stepz_ahead. If you ain't the over thinkingnest negro in the Universe

Teacher: 2+2 = 4

2stepz: How we know the answer is 4? Maybe 2 is actually 1? So 1+1 = 2 plus carry the 1 so the answer is actually 10 million.

Person drowning: Help I'm drowning.

2stepz: How you know you drowning? Did you try swimming? How bout breathing under water?

Random person: The sky is blue

2stepz: You sure the sky is blue? Maybe it just appears blue and it's actually red, but the ultraviolet rays from the sun make it appear blue when it hit's the Earth's atmosphere or maybe it's Aliens?

Really LOL.

real shit.....ask my kids and wife...we had those exact convos... lol.

what y'all don't get is in my line of work and why I'm there is thinking like this.

I already posted how 2+2 doesn't equal 4. the equation is formula dependant. I can dispute that.

and did the person try...

before they needed help swimming?

and the sky is only blue because of the ozone filters...so what's really good?

over thinking makes up for niggas who think flipping keys is honorable.

nothing wrong with not being satisfied with what I was told. I need it proven.

shit I was fighting with niggas about how the speed of light is not constant.

you'd be surprised at the shit I debate about

LOL Do your thing bruh

 

[2stepz_ahead]

How about breathing under water!! :joy: :joy: :joy:

@VulcanRaven

keep ya trap shut...

you still acting up?

you ain't squeeze shit out ya pusdylips ydt but a condom that feel off that lil dikk nigga you fukking with.

come over to a real nigga....I'm crazy an all...but I'll blow ya back out and show you the world at a high legal level..you won't think about Chicago or the nigga calling you to see if you ok...only catch is you might get killed trynna leave me...

so what's up

Ya know it's so interesting that when discussing parenting, the first thing people love to say is "well you don't have kids, what would you know?"

As if you have to be a parent to know its clearly wrong to render a 13 year old homeless for being disrespectful.

still talking...

I think you need to experience certain things before you can say what you would an wont do.

I said I wouldn't do alot of shit I did...

pressure an life changes things

 

[2stepz_ahead]

How about breathing under water!! :joy: :joy: :joy:

VulcanRaven

keep ya trap shut...

you still acting up?

you ain't squeeze shit out ya pusdylips ydt but a condom that feel off that lil dikk nigga you fukking with.

come over to a real nigga....I'm crazy an all...but I'll blow ya back out and show you the world at a high legal level..you won't think about Chicago or the nigga calling you to see if you ok...only catch is you might get killed trynna leave me...

so what's up

U said u don't wanna step on my toes but i read this post now my whole foot hurts :s

you right...that was a fukk nigga move.

my fault

 

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[whatevathehell]

Im not going through this whole thread but I am going to have to cosign 2 stepz sentiments I have read thus far. The man's ideas on what material things in life actually have value may be skewed, but I think he has hit the nail on the head in this case. Why was her firset reaction to post the shit on social media. I understand this generation is different but some things should be kept sacred. Not to mention that people in the area are going to automatically know who she was talking about.

 

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

How about breathing under water!! :joy: :joy: :joy:

@VulcanRaven

keep ya trap shut...

you still acting up?

you ain't squeeze shit out ya pusdylips ydt but a condom that feel off that lil dikk nigga you fukking with.

come over to a real nigga....I'm crazy an all...but I'll blow ya back out and show you the world at a high legal level..you won't think about Chicago or the nigga calling you to see if you ok...only catch is you might get killed trynna leave me...

so what's up

Ya know it's so interesting that when discussing parenting, the first thing people love to say is "well you don't have kids, what would you know?"

As if you have to be a parent to know its clearly wrong to render a 13 year old homeless for being disrespectful.

still talking...

I think you need to experience certain things before you can say what you would an wont do.

I said I wouldn't do alot of shit I did...

pressure an life changes things

No I don't. Have you ever experienced the North Pole? Probably not. Do you know it's cold there? I hope you do.

I don't need to experience parenthood to know its wrong to put a 13 year old to be homeless and I also never said I wouldn't do it... I said it is WRONG. If I became a parent and did he same, I would still be wrong. Parents love living in this world where as long as they try their best, they're great parents. They're very fragile people when it comes to that. Some people just aren't good parents, plain and simple. I could try my best and practice everyday to be a good basketball player and I'd still suck. It is what it is.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Parenting involves a certain amount of skills/tools, normally being taught to you as you were being raised by your parents. If the parents raising you lacked good parenting skills/tools you lack them as well and when trouble brews the parents may be at a loss of how to cope/deal with situations(so instead of other punishments being kicked out seems like the best option). It is not just confined to parenting, many people lack the skills and tools required to live a "normal well rounded" life.

 

[Kat]

Two stepz was either drunk or coked up when he latched on to this thread..you can't convince me otherwise.

 

[manofmorehouse]

Parenting involves a certain amount of skills/tools, normally being taught to you as you were being raised by your parents. If the parents raising you lacked good parenting skills/tools you lack them as well and when trouble brews the parents may be at a loss of how to cope/deal with situations(so instead of other punishments being kicked out seems like the best option). It is not just confined to parenting, many people lack the skills and tools required to live a "normal well rounded" life.

Well said. That's what it boils down to. The idea that u "have to" kick a 13 year ild out bevause u feel u have no other options shows how flawed your parenting skills are. U can tell with the amount of horrible kids now how neglectful or lacking the parents are. U can also blame it on single parent homes or two parent homes where the parents just don't know how to parent. Period.

Someone said they had multiple kids in the home and one came out bad. Everyone who's had a kid or has sibling knows damn well each kid is raised slightly different. The first born is not raised the same way as the last born. The first is generally the test child. U tweak as u go by. Bottom line is, if your kid is horrible at 13, they're a direct reflection of the parents

 

[semi-auto-mato]

Parenting involves a certain amount of skills/tools, normally being taught to you as you were being raised by your parents. If the parents raising you lacked good parenting skills/tools you lack them as well and when trouble brews the parents may be at a loss of how to cope/deal with situations(so instead of other punishments being kicked out seems like the best option). It is not just confined to parenting, many people lack the skills and tools required to live a "normal well rounded" life.

what are "good parenting skills/tools"

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Parenting involves a certain amount of skills/tools, normally being taught to you as you were being raised by your parents. If the parents raising you lacked good parenting skills/tools you lack them as well and when trouble brews the parents may be at a loss of how to cope/deal with situations(so instead of other punishments being kicked out seems like the best option). It is not just confined to parenting, many people lack the skills and tools required to live a "normal well rounded" life.

Well said. That's what it boils down to. The idea that u "have to" kick a 13 year ild out bevause u feel u have no other options shows how flawed your parenting skills are. U can tell with the amount of horrible kids now how neglectful or lacking the parents are. U can also blame it on single parent homes or two parent homes where the parents just don't know how to parent. Period.

Someone said they had multiple kids in the home and one came out bad. Everyone who's had a kid or has sibling knows damn well each kid is raised slightly different. The first born is not raised the same way as the last born. The first is generally the test child. U tweak as u go by. Bottom line is, if your kid is horrible at 13, they're a direct reflection of the parents

But to say blame I think it not quite right because they are a product of their parents and their parents and their parents, all the way back to adam and eve. And if you lack those skills it is probably hard to look at yourself objectively and say "hey wait, I lack good parenting skills I should fix that", sometimes that happens but usually not. Sometimes they might say "well I turned out fine and my parents were shit" without realizing they are most likely going to fall into the cycle too because when pressure comes the tools the parents used are going to get polished up and reused unless they've acquired better tools/skills.

It's a vicious cycle, all over the planet.

 

[Tymoney19]

If the genders were reversed and a teenage boy was kicked out for disrespecting his fathers gf this wouldnt be a topic and that teenage boy wouldnt get as much sympathy as what this girl is getting. For some reason lil girl or teenage girls trigger action and sympathy.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Parenting involves a certain amount of skills/tools, normally being taught to you as you were being raised by your parents. If the parents raising you lacked good parenting skills/tools you lack them as well and when trouble brews the parents may be at a loss of how to cope/deal with situations(so instead of other punishments being kicked out seems like the best option). It is not just confined to parenting, many people lack the skills and tools required to live a "normal well rounded" life.

what are "good parenting skills/tools"

For one, being able to take control of a situation without losing your cool and throwing your child out. I'm sure you know kids can press and press and purposely try and make a parent snap, a good skill would be being able to recognize that and shut them down not shut them out.

 

[manofmorehouse]

If the genders were reversed and a teenage boy was kicked out for disrespecting his fathers gf this wouldnt be a topic and that teenage boy wouldnt get as much sympathy as what this girl is getting. For some reason lil girl or teenage girls trigger action and sympathy.

Bad parenting is bad parenting, regardless of gender. I'd make the argument that it's worst to do for boys because they'll grow up to be men expected to be the head of household. If they're going in as I'll equipped to raise children, it fuck up the family dynamic before it even starts. This thread May have started off as a joke but it definitely is exposing a lot of the issues we as blacks pass on to our kids through bad parenting choices

 

[manofmorehouse]

Parenting involves a certain amount of skills/tools, normally being taught to you as you were being raised by your parents. If the parents raising you lacked good parenting skills/tools you lack them as well and when trouble brews the parents may be at a loss of how to cope/deal with situations(so instead of other punishments being kicked out seems like the best option). It is not just confined to parenting, many people lack the skills and tools required to live a "normal well rounded" life.

Well said. That's what it boils down to. The idea that u "have to" kick a 13 year ild out bevause u feel u have no other options shows how flawed your parenting skills are. U can tell with the amount of horrible kids now how neglectful or lacking the parents are. U can also blame it on single parent homes or two parent homes where the parents just don't know how to parent. Period.

Someone said they had multiple kids in the home and one came out bad. Everyone who's had a kid or has sibling knows damn well each kid is raised slightly different. The first born is not raised the same way as the last born. The first is generally the test child. U tweak as u go by. Bottom line is, if your kid is horrible at 13, they're a direct reflection of the parents

But to say blame I think it not quite right because they are a product of their parents and their parents and their parents, all the way back to adam and eve. And if you lack those skills it is probably hard to look at yourself objectively and say "hey wait, I lack good parenting skills I should fix that", sometimes that happens but usually not. Sometimes they might say "well I turned out fine and my parents were shit" without realizing they are most likely going to fall into the cycle too because when pressure comes the tools the parents used are going to get polished up and reused unless they've acquired better tools/skills.

It's a vicious cycle, all over the planet.

Definitely a vicious cycle but the only way to stop it is to realize you're moving wrong and correct it. There are parenting classes, services, etc. We look at it as an insult to say we need help raising our kids but do shit like put 13 year olds out on the street. Where's the logic??

 

[Ol Jay's]

why is it 9:40 pm and this child hasn't eaten dinner yet?