Planning for Single Motherhood.. Are fathers really needed?

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ES-BEE;1891122 said:
your words not mine

How does my comment indicate that a single parent home is of less value?
It doesn't, at all. You aren't comprehending what is written the way it is intended to be interpreted.

And if Du is accurate and you are just manipulating comments to reflect your affected view of all people, that isn't healthy or realistic.
 
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sboogie;1891143 said:
you implied that the life experiences of one outweigh those of the greater population in terms of knowledge...

this notion is what actually causes social problems to persist...

thinking for oneself includes analysis of the world outside of your little insignificant life...

don't try to belittle me cuz your daddy and mother got you believing you won't never amount to shit, I'm an eagle spreading my wings, so sad spoiled lil brats like you hate when I take flight cuz yall number system yall rely so heavy on is far from the truth, like I said live a little and you might learn more then those that wrote the book
 
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Conscious__Nkechi;1891137 said:
How does my comment indicate that a single parent home is of less value?

It doesn't, at all. You aren't comprehending what is written the way it is intended to be interpreted.

And if Du is accurate and you are just manipulating comments to reflect your affected view of all people, that isn't healthy or realistic.

you stated what you said with an ?, so I answered...........listening to Du like listening to a five year old, Du never has a clue, and if Du so right in what he got you believing about me wouldn't I have quoted one of you and started rambling on about shit, naw missy I give an honest open opinion about the T/S response to an article she read, which is what I did responed...........so since I don't agree with yall I'm fishing for an argument, AHAHAAHAAAA far from the truth, my mom lost my pops(not bi-ological) when I was 3, she planned to raise me alone thus swearing off relationships until I was grown, which I thank her for becuz my free mind wouldn't have allowed another man to tell me what to do......so T/S struck a nerve with me so I gave my insight from a product of what she's against..........I been telling yall DU IS A HATER, nobody listens, oh well
 
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I saw that same article and it's really sad that anyone can even contemplate the idea of a fatherless society by choice. Adopting a child into a single parent home is one thing, but planning to have a baby to grow up without a father by choice is selfish as hell.

I read some comments and you so often hear some women say "I want a baby" emphasis x2 on the I. That's selfish. What about how that child will feel growing up without that other missing piece? And some think well "positive male role models in their life" ok, yeah but that still doesn't replace a dad. Period.
 
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sboogie;1891179 said:
smh...

ok smart guy, just try not to reproduce...

plz stay out the gene pool...

too late....oh yeah so now I'm a smart guy, cuz I have an opinon, yeah ......riiigggghht
 
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ES-BEE;1891182 said:
you stated what you said with an ?, so I answered...........listening to Du like listening to a five year old, Du never has a clue, and if Du so right in what he got you believing about me wouldn't I have quoted one of you and started rambling on about shit, naw missy I give an honest open opinion about the T/S response to an article she read, which is what I did responed...........so since I don't agree with yall I'm fishing for an argument, AHAHAAHAAAA far from the truth, my mom lost my pops(not bi-ological) when I was 3, she planned to raise me alone thus swearing off relationships until I was grown, which I thank her for becuz my free mind wouldn't have allowed another man to tell me what I do......so T/S struck a nerve with me so I gave my insight from a product of what she's against..........I been telling yall DU IS A HATER, nobody listens, oh well

Sweetie, you are now rambling being that you had already concluded that you believe we are on the same page a few posts back.
Your posts were coming off as affected or you might have not assumed my thought process, Du has nothing to do with this actually.

As far as your mother swearing off relationships and choosing to be a single parent, she was already a single parent before making that choice. Being a single parent who chooses to remain single to focus on their first priority is an entirely different case than a woman who consciously and deliberately plans to become impregnated with the intent to raise the child on their own. You are comparing kiwis to pineapples when you just can't.
 
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ES-BEE;1890919 said:
lets suppose the father is a dope fiend none working stealing from his own momma, so he'll definitely wouldn't hesitate to take from his child, yall mean to tell me the mother isn't better off raising that child alone vs. it being a must the father is in that childs life?

@ Du seltbeats don't save lives, GOD does........see the number of seatbelt related deaths

Well how about the mother shouldn't have had a baby by him in the first place.

Now if this happened AFTER the fact then it still take a helluva a lot for people to wake up one day and be stealing from their own momma dope fiends. So exactly where does the bad judgment some of these women have come into play? Different discussion, I know.
 
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Conscious__Nkechi;1891217 said:
Sweetie, now you are rambling being that you had already concluded that you believe we are on the same page a few posts back.

As far as your mother swearing off relationships and choosing to be a single parent, she was already a single parent before making that choice. Being a single parent who chooses to remain single to focus on their first priority is an entirely different case than a woman who consciously and deliberately plans to become impregnated with the intent to raise the child on their own. You are comparing kiwis to pineapples when you just can't.

rambling no? I have a pet peeve for people's misinterpertation of my words and character.......

truly I shalt no giveth a fucketh though
 
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gorilla;1891237 said:
Well how about the mother shouldn't have had a baby by him in the first place.

Now if this happened AFTER the fact then it still take a helluva a lot for people to wake up one day and be stealing from their own momma dope fiends. So exactly where does the bad judgment some of these women have come into play? Different discussion, I know.

you know that was from a personal aspect, why my mother chose my dad, I don't know, maybe he got a big dick and know how to use it, and like I said we are all prone to make fucked up decisions look at my mother and her past, both parents were present and positive, and she was brought up thru the civil rights movement, one would of thought she knew better
 
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Not to be on some conspiracy ish, but I really believe there is a big push to destroy the structure of family, especially black families. I said this before in another thread, the 90's were full of ideas that blk men were all gang bangin drug dealers, then two 2000's came in bashing blk women, now it's spread to trying to basically exclude men from EVERYTHING!

No matter how you slice it, a child has the right to have two loving parents. It doesn't always work out that way in the end but damn to PLAN on a single parent home is just pure selfishness
 
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I get what Es-bee is saying.

The older I get, the more I realize that there are no rules and guarantees in life. It would be nice for all kids to have loving and supportive parents, but even that is no guarantee the child will grow up to healthy and productive.

Furthermore, it's not as if men are jumping in line to get married. If a woman wants to have a child, what should she do? Wait for somebody to want to marry her, impregnate her, or have an "oops" baby?

Usually women who decide to be single mothers, plan for there not being a father being involved...which is more than can be said for womenwho have babies with men and hope they'll stick around.

But like I said, there are too many factors to say what is "right" and what is "wrong".
 
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Well some women plan single parenthood because they feel like they are already going into a losing situation. Its not always about being selfish. Some women are, but lets be honest alot of women don't have faith in the black man. Just look at the dynamic of the family structure in the black community the majority of black women with kids or single. You have men who don't want to commit, and men who want to leave, but also men who just don;t care. And this is not to say that the woman isnt at fault either. But this issue is waaay deeper than simply saying a women just plans on being single. Thier are soo many differnt reasons for that.
 
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Question if this is such a problem why is it looked down upon 4 another man 2 step up and be in that childs life even if it aint his??
 
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ideally you would want to have your mom and pops around but idk....my dad was there for me even though he and my mother's relationship was short lived. ... *shrugs*

i guess single motherhood is becoming fashionable nowadays.... and i can see it being frustrating/scary for the women who want children and a father for her children but were raised without knowing their father and/or have been bombarded with stats/tv specials/studies on the growing number of single mothers out there especially in the black community. i mean you can say stop fucking these dead beats but at the same time every one makes mistakes and sometimes the "good man" may not be a good father so what is a woman to do?

and than women are getting artificially inseminated because they want children but haven't found the right guy....are they in the wrong/selfish? it's complicated
 
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damobb2deep;1892008 said:
Question if this is such a problem why is it looked down upon 4 another man 2 step up and be in that childs life even if it aint his??

I don't think it's bad for another man to step up and raise a child that isn't his. Hell, I got a lot of respect for men who do that... well, let me take that back, I do be trippin' on my brother sometimes..
 
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