Official Star Wars Cinematic Universe Thread: Now Showing : Ep VIII - The Last Jedi (15 Dec)
how is this movie different from episode 4? Shit starts with someone getting captured(Leia/Poe), a force wielder that doesn't know it is found on a desert planet(Luke/Rey), and the darkside(empire/first order) builds another death star, only for the resistance/rebellion to destroy it and leave the dark side reeling leading into the next movie.
Shit wasn't original to me, just regurgitated George Lucas ideas, made to sell toys and t shirts. Too many explosions and "car chases" so to speak, and not enough storytelling. Wasn't a bad movie, but definitely not worth hype leading up to it.
Plus some teenage kids sitting beside me at the theater had some banging body odor, shit was ridiculous. I can't stand teenagers smack dab in the middle of puberty.
Shit wasn't original to me, just regurgitated George Lucas ideas, made to sell toys and t shirts. Too many explosions and "car chases" so to speak, and not enough storytelling. Wasn't a bad movie, but definitely not worth hype leading up to it.
Plus some teenage kids sitting beside me at the theater had some banging body odor, shit was ridiculous. I can't stand teenagers smack dab in the middle of puberty.
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Splackavelli
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804;8612396 said:
It was the love story and anakins corball flirting that ruined the movie other than that every thing else about the movie was good
fortyacres;8612654 said:
Nigga that ain't borrowing ideas, that's taking the entire plot from the original movie. Just because everybody is doing it, doesn't make that shit ok. They even built another death star, and change the name. When the fuck are these dark side niggas gonna learn that a planet destroying weapon is not the way to go about taking over a galaxy??? The resistance base looks practically the same as the Rebel base in the original trilogy. We even got the head of the Darkside only communicating through holograms, and major characters dying at the end. Same shit, with new paint. IMO starting closer to the events of Return of the Jedi would have been a better starting point.
Juttythe3rd
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Its good to see the Storm Troppers shooting got a little better
Han went...thug tears
Breezy_Kilroy
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Truthfully the only films with any original ideas are animated. That Zootopia joint had me dying.
Inglewood_B
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On Kylo Ren
He a unfinished product. Never completed his training with Luke nor with Snoke. He got the gift, but he raw as fuck. And his sword work was sloppy as hell. Compare his skill with the lightsaber to that of Obi-wan way back in Phantom Menace. Young Obi-Wan wasn't even a master and he killed Darth Maul who wasn't no slouch. He would've washed Kylo Ren easy. Never mind someone as skilled as Yoda or Anakin.
That plus the injury is why Rey and to an extent Finn were able to hang with him. I mean think about it... The only one who could've really gave him any lightsaber training was Luke. And Luke himself had only the barest minimal lightsaber training with old Obi-Wan. Kylo Ren is like somebody who been taking karate classes for a few years but ain't black belt level. Yeah you got an advantage but a common street fighter catch you slipping(Rey tapping into the force) you might get slept.
Only reason Luke beat Vader was because he tapped into his anger/rage/hate in that moment. Kylo tried to do that by killing his father and beating on his bleeding injury to get there, but he never did. When Anakin made that full dark side switch his eyes turned yellow
Kylo never got to that point because a) even Snoke said his dark side training needed to be finished and b) even he admitted himself when he was praying to Vaders helmet, that he still felt the call of the light side.
In that context, it's easy to believe he could have a rough time with those two in that circumstance. He strong in the force and he developed some cool techniques, but he ain't ready either.
I expect him to have a lot of growth in the next 2 movies as well as Rey and Finn
That plus the injury is why Rey and to an extent Finn were able to hang with him. I mean think about it... The only one who could've really gave him any lightsaber training was Luke. And Luke himself had only the barest minimal lightsaber training with old Obi-Wan. Kylo Ren is like somebody who been taking karate classes for a few years but ain't black belt level. Yeah you got an advantage but a common street fighter catch you slipping(Rey tapping into the force) you might get slept.
Only reason Luke beat Vader was because he tapped into his anger/rage/hate in that moment. Kylo tried to do that by killing his father and beating on his bleeding injury to get there, but he never did. When Anakin made that full dark side switch his eyes turned yellow
Kylo never got to that point because a) even Snoke said his dark side training needed to be finished and b) even he admitted himself when he was praying to Vaders helmet, that he still felt the call of the light side.
In that context, it's easy to believe he could have a rough time with those two in that circumstance. He strong in the force and he developed some cool techniques, but he ain't ready either.
I expect him to have a lot of growth in the next 2 movies as well as Rey and Finn
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Niggas hating on Finn hard. Too cornballish? Not a hero? He's a weak coon character? Niggas need to step back and appreciate his role for what it was. Out of ALL the canidates who applied for this role it went to John. Dude expressed the most on screen acting outside of Harrison Ford. He is developing a new character that will lead this next generation of Star Wars.
I won't lie, I wanted Finn to be more based off of the picture the previews were showing but if you analyze the complexity of the character you have a better time accepting his part. Understand tho, Finn pushed the movie toward.
I won't lie, I wanted Finn to be more based off of the picture the previews were showing but if you analyze the complexity of the character you have a better time accepting his part. Understand tho, Finn pushed the movie toward.
Breezy_Kilroy
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Inglewood_B;8612784 said:On Kylo Ren
He a unfinished product. Never completed his training with Luke nor with Snoke. He got the gift, but he raw as fuck. And his sword work was sloppy as hell. Compare his skill with the lightsaber to that of Obi-wan way back in Phantom Menace. Young Obi-Wan wasn't even a master and he killed Darth Maul who wasn't no slouch. He would've washed Kylo Ren easy. Never mind someone as skilled as Yoda or Anakin.
That plus the injury is why Rey and to an extent Finn were able to hang with him. I mean think about it... The only one who could've really gave him any lightsaber training was Luke. And Luke himself had only the barest minimal lightsaber training with old Obi-Wan. Kylo Ren is like somebody who been taking karate classes for a few years but ain't black belt level. Yeah you got an advantage but a common street fighter catch you slipping(Rey tapping into the force) you might get slept.
Only reason Luke beat Vader was because he tapped into his anger/rage/hate in that moment. Kylo tried to do that by killing his father and beating on his bleeding injury to get there, but he never did. When Anakin made that full dark side switch his eyes turned yellow
Kylo never got to that point because a) even Snoke said his dark side training needed to be finished and b) even he admitted himself when he was praying to Vaders helmet, that he still felt the call of the light side.
In that context, it's easy to believe he could have a rough time with those two in that circumstance. He strong in the force and he developed some cool techniques, but he ain't ready either.
I expect him to have a lot of growth in the next 2 movies as well as Rey and Finn
I agree with majority of this. Ren wasn't quite there yet and it showed in his appearance. I didn't even think of that but it goes with him still being on the fence. Everyone who changes the dark side consumes them and you see it physically.
It's just speculation but I believe since he was just a regular looking guy it made it easier for Rey to control the situation. The intimidation was gone when he took off his mask. I think that's why they chose Driver. Dude looks goofy anyway. In a way he was hiding behind the mask.
What I don't know if that's just the direction they are going but the duels in the prequels were top notch compared to ep 7. Since we don't know I'll just assume their technique isn't that good and they have a lot to learn.
Where I disagree with is the Luke part. I didn't read the books but I know he is supposed to be the greatest Jedi ever but that's in the EU. Now in the new universe you might have a point and he might not be that nigga like that.
It's just speculation but I believe since he was just a regular looking guy it made it easier for Rey to control the situation. The intimidation was gone when he took off his mask. I think that's why they chose Driver. Dude looks goofy anyway. In a way he was hiding behind the mask.
What I don't know if that's just the direction they are going but the duels in the prequels were top notch compared to ep 7. Since we don't know I'll just assume their technique isn't that good and they have a lot to learn.
Where I disagree with is the Luke part. I didn't read the books but I know he is supposed to be the greatest Jedi ever but that's in the EU. Now in the new universe you might have a point and he might not be that nigga like that.
Smokey Tha Bandit
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Thought it was cool, could've been better IMO. Hope the next 2 are better...
fortyacres;8612697 said:
So a space epic movie, with technology that is not possible, and where little sense is made of anything that goes on, would not make sense to at least begin with the part of the story, that everyone wants to now know anyways? Ok, if you say so.
In an age where you can jump on Wikipedia to find out the entire story to the previous 6 movies while taking a shit, why was it necessary to "bridge the gap" as you say? That's an excuse for a lack of imaginative story telling.
I'm not gonna derail the thread with prequel talk, but niggas bitch way too much about the prequels. First one could have been better, but 2 and 3 were dope. Don't nobody wants to think for themselves, so they just repeat what's "popular opinion". Nothing in episode 7, was better than 2 or 3, let alone 4-6.
Melanin_Enriched
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All these words for kylo like he's some complex character and not just a bitch nigga.
StoneColdMikey
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Kylo gonna lose it when he find out the truth about Darth Vader
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lord nemesis
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Random thought: why when niggas get killed in Star Wars they always gotta fall down a hole or shaft?
