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VulcanRaven;8611006 said:
I been thinking about it and I came up with a pretty good reason for this that makes perfect sense and also relates to another characters story arc as well... I'll drop it when get home from work
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Official Star Wars Cinematic Universe Thread: Now Showing : Ep VIII - The Last Jedi (15 Dec)
I been thinking about it and I came up with a pretty good reason for this that makes perfect sense and also relates to another characters story arc as well... I'll drop it when get home from work
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texas409;8604620 said:Looking at these spoiler reactions feeling like Palpatine.... Yes the hate is strong with you niggas!!!!!!!!
Anger leads to hate; hate leads to the dark side
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Kylo will never be his grandpappy
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Darth Plagueis=Snoke or Darth Bane returned
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Kylo Ren should have kept his helmet on. He lost the mystery surrounding him when he took it off. He looked too much like Keanu Reeves from Bill & Ted
BangEm_Bart ;8610372 said:Finn should be in the Guinness book of world records for the most Ls taken.
I try to tell these cats but they don't wanna hear it. They over hyping, giving shit a pass just cause hollywood accepted a brother for the role. Truth is, the character as of now is lame regardless of his race.
The nigga got handled by Rey, the B22, Kylo, the storm trooper, chewbacca, the monsters Hans was transporting. They got Rey flying the MF like she was born to do it and Fin can't even sit down in his seat right to shoot shit? C'mon, now. This nigga was the equivalent of a Star Wars Krillin. I don't even need to make it racial. As the male lead of an action movie, that character was too weak in this. If they introduce another potential love interest for Rey, it's over for dude I bet.
The nigga got handled by Rey, the B22, Kylo, the storm trooper, chewbacca, the monsters Hans was transporting. They got Rey flying the MF like she was born to do it and Fin can't even sit down in his seat right to shoot shit? C'mon, now. This nigga was the equivalent of a Star Wars Krillin. I don't even need to make it racial. As the male lead of an action movie, that character was too weak in this. If they introduce another potential love interest for Rey, it's over for dude I bet.
Inglewood_B
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kzzl;8611665 said:BangEm_Bart ;8610372 said:Finn should be in the Guinness book of world records for the most Ls taken.
I try to tell these cats but they don't wanna hear it. They over hyping, giving shit a pass just cause hollywood accepted a brother for the role. Truth is, the character as of now is lame regardless of his race.
The nigga got handled by Rey, the B22, Kylo, the storm trooper, chewbacca, the monsters Hans was transporting. They got Rey flying the MF like she was born to do it and Fin can't even sit down in his seat right to shoot shit? C'mon, now. This nigga was the equivalent of a Star Wars Krillin. I don't even need to make it racial. As the male lead of an action movie, that character was too weak in this. If they introduce another potential love interest for Rey, it's over for dude I bet.
Lmfao... Damn. Not Krillin?
I feel people weren't paying attention to the movie at all between the action & humor. There wasn't supposed to be any mystery surrounding him for this 1st movie despite Ren wanting to create one.
The character's entire motivation was that he was pretending to be his grandfather and his greatest fear was never being able to live up to that legacy. That fear came even closer to being realized once he encountered Rey. This movie isn't super dense to the point that they've made it difficult to peel back the layers beyond the surface. I bet many people don't even realize that with Kylo we're essentially in the midst of seeing the conflict & path towards the dark side that we should've seen with Anakin.
Not only that, we know two more episodes are coming. We can't just take out the VCR for Episode 7 and pop in 8/9 to complete the story like we were able to with 4-6 in our younger days. We have to remember that we can't yet see the big picture. As soon as the movie finished you had people who were quick to nitpick various little elements.
After Empire ended you probably had millions of people wondering how the hell was Yoda some master Jedi. If he's all powerful then why was he hiding and not helping fight Vader?
Han just by chance found Luke when he was out in the elements on Hoth?
Obi Wan's force ghost just magically appears to tell Luke where to go? That's definitely convenient.
So while it is fair to take fault with some of these things, it's foolish to take issue while ignoring the various clues dropped within the context of the movie that answered some of those questions.
The character's entire motivation was that he was pretending to be his grandfather and his greatest fear was never being able to live up to that legacy. That fear came even closer to being realized once he encountered Rey. This movie isn't super dense to the point that they've made it difficult to peel back the layers beyond the surface. I bet many people don't even realize that with Kylo we're essentially in the midst of seeing the conflict & path towards the dark side that we should've seen with Anakin.
Not only that, we know two more episodes are coming. We can't just take out the VCR for Episode 7 and pop in 8/9 to complete the story like we were able to with 4-6 in our younger days. We have to remember that we can't yet see the big picture. As soon as the movie finished you had people who were quick to nitpick various little elements.
After Empire ended you probably had millions of people wondering how the hell was Yoda some master Jedi. If he's all powerful then why was he hiding and not helping fight Vader?
Han just by chance found Luke when he was out in the elements on Hoth?
Obi Wan's force ghost just magically appears to tell Luke where to go? That's definitely convenient.
So while it is fair to take fault with some of these things, it's foolish to take issue while ignoring the various clues dropped within the context of the movie that answered some of those questions.
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Good movie the tie fighter scenes were dope reminded me of the OG versions. I just wanted to know what made Finn of all the storm troopers to ever see battle just happen to be the one to say no to unnecessary killing of innocents? Finn was that dude he was brave when he needed to be. Capt Phasma smh did absolutely nothing. Rey was cool she looks too much like Agent Smith pause. No sex appeal at all and how did she know she could force persuade people from the jump??? I liked the younger actors and their portrayals of "teen angst" all of them were conflicted on where they were headed in life
VulcanRaven;8611006 said:I enjoyed the movie and liked Finn's character. Of course somethings were predictable, but I think they established a solid foundation for the sequels.My only issues was the fact that both Rey and Finn fought on par with a trained force user and won/wounded him. Kylo should have cut them both down easily as neither had any training and Rey was way too strong for just discovering the force and having no knowledge of it. They destroyed the hype for Kyo already since he looks real weak now and just a Vader stan. I did not like the actor that played him either. When he took off his mask I almost laughed.
The fleet commander didn't even respect dude. That alone was a give away to dudes power, or lack there of. Didn't he go to Sok and ask for guidance to defeat the girl before hand? Killing Han and completing his training might be what he needs. Once he got that scar on his face in the last fight, I figured he's gonna be on another level in the next one.
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I need to know Lukes reason for running away. If Ben turned to Kylo, if would've made more sense for Luke to kill Kylo before he got too strong. Something I'm sure Luke was capable of doing... shouldn't he be able to do that now and before? He has to know the galaxy and his friends are in danger once more.
I wonder if there's a way you can lose the ability to use the force.
Another thing that confused me is how Sok, before/during Finn meeting Rey, mentions that there has been an "awakening". I immediately assumed he was referring to Fin. It wasn't till after that scene that Rey has the visions right?
If I'm remembering that sequence of events right, that means that "awakening" is what they call a storm trooper than turns. So then you gotta wonder why would they call it an awakening in the first place? That's not the kind of word you just slap on a traitor to your cause.
I wonder if there's a way you can lose the ability to use the force.
Another thing that confused me is how Sok, before/during Finn meeting Rey, mentions that there has been an "awakening". I immediately assumed he was referring to Fin. It wasn't till after that scene that Rey has the visions right?
If I'm remembering that sequence of events right, that means that "awakening" is what they call a storm trooper than turns. So then you gotta wonder why would they call it an awakening in the first place? That's not the kind of word you just slap on a traitor to your cause.
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BangEm_Bart
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kzzl;8611665 said:BangEm_Bart ;8610372 said:Finn should be in the Guinness book of world records for the most Ls taken.
I try to tell these cats but they don't wanna hear it. They over hyping, giving shit a pass just cause hollywood accepted a brother for the role. Truth is, the character as of now is lame regardless of his race.
The nigga got handled by Rey, the B22, Kylo, the storm trooper, chewbacca, the monsters Hans was transporting. They got Rey flying the MF like she was born to do it and Fin can't even sit down in his seat right to shoot shit? C'mon, now. This nigga was the equivalent of a Star Wars Krillin. I don't even need to make it racial. As the male lead of an action movie, that character was too weak in this. If they introduce another potential love interest for Rey, it's over for dude I bet.
Aight so check it. About Finn's character. I think he is a very very powerful underrated character on the low that will be revealed by episode 9. I dunno what he is yet but Mas looked at him with suspicion but couldn't pin point it. Not like he's a retired stormtrooper but like there's something really different about him. She sensed the force in him and gave him the light saber when she could've given it to Han. Remember Han Solo kept calling him "a big deal", that's not to be taken lightly. He did pick up on everything rather quickly. I think he will be a key element to unlocking the true secrets behind the sith and jedi in the future when we find out about his past. My guess is that he's lowkey one of thee most powerful sith lords given free will but a good guy and Rey is thee most powerful jedi. They will be like the star wars romeo and juliet from opposite sides teaming together and showing that not all sith are bad but where did the rivalry come from. I also think that Ben knew this and Snoke was asking him about his whereabouts. I'm usually never wrong at guessing this stuff. Ok now back to trolling...
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texas409;8611703 said:Good movie the tie fighter scenes were dope reminded me of the OG versions. I just wanted to know what made Finn of all the storm troopers to ever see battle just happen to be the one to say no to unnecessary killing of innocents? Finn was that dude he was brave when he needed to be. Capt Phasma smh did absolutely nothing. Rey was cool she looks too much like Agent Smith pause. No sex appeal at all and how did she know she could force persuade people from the jump??? I liked the younger actors and their portrayals of "teen angst" all of them were conflicted on where they were headed in life
She's going to be the strongest Jedi, it's all there, she just hasn't about known about it.
Also, how she knew to to this or that, stories, the Jedi's are a 'myth' at this point. That's why Han tells them in the Falcon, "it's all real and not some mumbo jumbo". I assume she just said fuck it and tried it, which is why it took a few attempts to make the trooper do what she wanted and for her to finally push Kylo out of her mind.
Also, how she knew to to this or that, stories, the Jedi's are a 'myth' at this point. That's why Han tells them in the Falcon, "it's all real and not some mumbo jumbo". I assume she just said fuck it and tried it, which is why it took a few attempts to make the trooper do what she wanted and for her to finally push Kylo out of her mind.
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Saw it Saturday. It was packed for a matinee.
JJ did a great job. George lucid food the right thing selling the intellectual property to Disney. In one movie, they made up for the wack ass prequels.
JJ did a great job. George lucid food the right thing selling the intellectual property to Disney. In one movie, they made up for the wack ass prequels.
BangEm_Bart ;8611793 said:kzzl;8611665 said:BangEm_Bart ;8610372 said:Finn should be in the Guinness book of world records for the most Ls taken.
I try to tell these cats but they don't wanna hear it. They over hyping, giving shit a pass just cause hollywood accepted a brother for the role. Truth is, the character as of now is lame regardless of his race.
The nigga got handled by Rey, the B22, Kylo, the storm trooper, chewbacca, the monsters Hans was transporting. They got Rey flying the MF like she was born to do it and Fin can't even sit down in his seat right to shoot shit? C'mon, now. This nigga was the equivalent of a Star Wars Krillin. I don't even need to make it racial. As the male lead of an action movie, that character was too weak in this. If they introduce another potential love interest for Rey, it's over for dude I bet.
Aight so check it. About Finn's character. I think he is a very very powerful underrated character on the low that will be revealed by episode 9. I dunno what he is yet but Mas looked at him with suspicion but couldn't pin point it. Not like he's a retired stormtrooper but like there's something really different about him. She sensed the force in him and gave him the light saber when she could've given it to Han. Remember Han Solo kept calling him "a big deal", that's not to be taken lightly. He did pick up on everything rather quickly. I think he will be a key element to unlocking the true secrets behind the sith and jedi in the future when we find out about his past. My guess is that he's lowkey one of thee most powerful sith lords given free will but a good guy and Rey is thee most powerful jedi. They will be like the star wars romeo and juliet from opposite sides teaming together and showing that not all sith are bad but where did the rivalry come from. I also think that Ben knew this and Snoke was asking him about his whereabouts. I'm usually never wrong at guessing this stuff. Ok now back to trolling...
I don't know shit about a Sith. Good point about the light saber not going to Han, though. I also found it strange that he was out for so long after fighting Kylo. And the whole "awakening" thing could still be about him and the force. Whatever it is, it better make him a big deal for real in the next one.
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kzzl;8612093 said:BangEm_Bart ;8611793 said:kzzl;8611665 said:BangEm_Bart ;8610372 said:Finn should be in the Guinness book of world records for the most Ls taken.
I try to tell these cats but they don't wanna hear it. They over hyping, giving shit a pass just cause hollywood accepted a brother for the role. Truth is, the character as of now is lame regardless of his race.
The nigga got handled by Rey, the B22, Kylo, the storm trooper, chewbacca, the monsters Hans was transporting. They got Rey flying the MF like she was born to do it and Fin can't even sit down in his seat right to shoot shit? C'mon, now. This nigga was the equivalent of a Star Wars Krillin. I don't even need to make it racial. As the male lead of an action movie, that character was too weak in this. If they introduce another potential love interest for Rey, it's over for dude I bet.
Aight so check it. About Finn's character. I think he is a very very powerful underrated character on the low that will be revealed by episode 9. I dunno what he is yet but Mas looked at him with suspicion but couldn't pin point it. Not like he's a retired stormtrooper but like there's something really different about him. She sensed the force in him and gave him the light saber when she could've given it to Han. Remember Han Solo kept calling him "a big deal", that's not to be taken lightly. He did pick up on everything rather quickly. I think he will be a key element to unlocking the true secrets behind the sith and jedi in the future when we find out about his past. My guess is that he's lowkey one of thee most powerful sith lords given free will but a good guy and Rey is thee most powerful jedi. They will be like the star wars romeo and juliet from opposite sides teaming together and showing that not all sith are bad but where did the rivalry come from. I also think that Ben knew this and Snoke was asking him about his whereabouts. I'm usually never wrong at guessing this stuff. Ok now back to trolling...
I don't know shit about a Sith. Good point about the light saber not going to Han, though. I also found it strange that he was out for so long after fighting Kylo. And the whole "awakening" thing could still be about him and the force. Whatever it is, it better make him a big deal for real in the next one.
My other theory is that his father or someone was destined to be a powerful sith lord but rebelled against them. In turn, they killed his whole family and kidnapped him then made him a storm trooper. They tried to brainwash him to be evil and his only friend that kept him centered was killed which opened his eyes and made him realize that being part of the dark side was not for him. They should have a back story to his friend getting killed as a stormtrooper. Like in the beginning of episode 8 while he's out cold, he's having flashbacks to his boy getting murked and their friendship and then his family royalty. Perhaps, Mace Windu was his grandfather and his son almost turned sith or something. Just throwing ideas out there, I hope JJ Abrams reads this spoiler.
Also in reading this link, Poe Dameron is not a main character. His character was meant to get killed off in the original script. The main characters are Rey, Finn and Ben/Kylo. So I don't think Finn's character is a filler character and I think these 3 share a similar history tied together like Han, Luke and Leia.
Also in reading this link, Poe Dameron is not a main character. His character was meant to get killed off in the original script. The main characters are Rey, Finn and Ben/Kylo. So I don't think Finn's character is a filler character and I think these 3 share a similar history tied together like Han, Luke and Leia.
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Saw it yesterday. I had high hopes based on the reviews, but was disappointed. It definitely fit in with the franchise, but doesnt seem like it's gonna be very memorable. Just too much bunched in and not enough character development. I give JJ props for not making the movie on one big CGI screen like the prequels as well as bringing back the OGs, but Finn and Kylo Ren (unmasked) ruined it for me.
Finn was just too much of a cornball for me. He spent 90% of the movie dodging conflict and even when he manned up, he was getting his ass beat. He was like the human C-3P0. Im sure they'll build him up in the sequels, but as the male lead, he left much to be desired. And all the people in here bitching about him not being black enough need to stop backing black characters into a corner. His character was colorless and that's a good thing. Not every black/brown/asian, etc person in cinema needs to be a living stereotype.
Kylo Ren has been trained by Luke Skywalker and idolizes Darth Vader, yet some girl who's barely learning her powers and has no prior fight training took it to his ass. Wounded or not. Adam Driver was just wrong for the role. Something about his face that annoys me. Rey and Poe on the other hand were well casted. Hopefully Poe will have more screen time in the sequels. lol @ Luke looking like an Obi-Wan impersonator.
The sequels need more Poe, and like ironman said, more Poe/Finn. They had good on screen chemistry.
6.5/10. Hopefully the sequels will be better, particularly with the character development.
Finn was just too much of a cornball for me. He spent 90% of the movie dodging conflict and even when he manned up, he was getting his ass beat. He was like the human C-3P0. Im sure they'll build him up in the sequels, but as the male lead, he left much to be desired. And all the people in here bitching about him not being black enough need to stop backing black characters into a corner. His character was colorless and that's a good thing. Not every black/brown/asian, etc person in cinema needs to be a living stereotype.
Kylo Ren has been trained by Luke Skywalker and idolizes Darth Vader, yet some girl who's barely learning her powers and has no prior fight training took it to his ass. Wounded or not. Adam Driver was just wrong for the role. Something about his face that annoys me. Rey and Poe on the other hand were well casted. Hopefully Poe will have more screen time in the sequels. lol @ Luke looking like an Obi-Wan impersonator.
The sequels need more Poe, and like ironman said, more Poe/Finn. They had good on screen chemistry.
6.5/10. Hopefully the sequels will be better, particularly with the character development.
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