Official ATHEIST/AGNOSTIC THREAD

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So, I guess as long as we're here we can gripe about our observations of religious folk and share experiences.

Now, why is it that these days, it seems the Christians are always insisting to have concrete proof that God exists and Jesus is God, etc, etc.? I'm not from the South, but up here in the Northeast, it seems like most Christians used to acknowledge the fact that they call it "faith" because they don't have definitive proof. And then when I ask what their proof is, they just quote the Bible. Like that's some new shit I never heard of before. WHAT THE FUCK.
 
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its over: 2012!;1726554 said:
LOL...

Atheism is...the belief that there was nothing, and that nothing happened to nothing...and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything!

And then, a bunch of everything just magically rearranged itself for no reason, whatsoever, into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs and Homo-Erectus...

If that's your working definition of Atheism, I admit it sounds silly, but so does Christianity if we define it as "A zombie who was his own father died so we would all know to persecute gay people".

Oh wait, Christianity sounds silly no matter how you word it.
 
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I think it's getting impossible to make a decent thread about anything 2012 is interested in.

He's just a concrete mixer truck full of shit, and the driver backs it up onto your thread and says "Where do you want this?" and the foreman goes "Right here, right in this thread." And then you've got a shitty thread.
 
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KTULU IS BACK;1726595 said:
I think it's getting impossible to make a decent thread about anything 2012 is interested in.

He's just a concrete mixer truck full of shit, and the driver backs it up onto your thread and says "Where do you want this?" and the foreman goes "Right here, right in this thread." And then you've got a shitty thread.

lol .
 
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No such thing as a true atheist. A true atheist would have to have total knowledge of the whole universe from the beginning. So calling oneself an atheist is one of the most illogical things somebody can do. No wonder God calls them fools.
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;1726672 said:
No such thing as a true atheist. A true atheist would have to have total knowledge of the whole universe from the beginning.

This is like saying there are no true Christians because a true Christian would have to have actually watched God create the world.

An atheist is a person who does not believe in God. Atheists never claimed to have perfect knowledge of the universe. Most religious people don't claim to have such knowledge either.
 
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No such thing as a true theist. A true theist would have to have total knowledge of the whole universe from the beginning. So calling oneself a theist is one of the most illogical things somebody can do. No wonder people call them fools.
 
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KTULU IS BACK;1726680 said:
This is like saying there are no true Christians because a true Christian would have to have actually watched God create the world.

An atheist is a person who does not believe in God. Atheists never claimed to have perfect knowledge of the universe. Most religious people don't claim to have such knowledge either.

How can you say there is no God when you don't know that?
 
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BiblicalAtheist;1726685 said:
No such thing as a true theist. A true theist would have to have total knowledge of the whole universe from the beginning. So calling oneself a theist is one of the most illogical things somebody can do. No wonder people call them fools.

In your mind ok. But not in Gods:-)

"The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”
Psalm 14:1

Yeah, let God be true and all men liars:-)
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;1726692 said:
How can you say there is no God when you don't know that?

I say I don't believe there is a God. I do not claim, like I said, to have perfect certainty of this. I don't know why you're expecting me to make that claim, either.

Sometimes I will facetiously say "THERE IS DEFINITELY NO GOD" but that's facetiousness, of course. But I have as much of a right to make that statement as anyone.

And it's not really a far-fetched idea, either. As this thread continues, we will discuss the reasons why so many people don't believe in God or gods.
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;1726697 said:
In your mind ok. But not in Gods:-)

"The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”
Psalm 14:1

Yeah, let God be true and all men liars:-)

Since you're gonna quote Bible verses at us, I think it's timely to remind everybody that you had a child out of wedlock because your faith in a God that is constantly watching everything you do is not really as strong as you make it sound.
 
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KTULU IS BACK;1726702 said:
I say I don't believe there is a God. I do not claim, like I said, to have perfect certainty of this. I don't know why you're expecting me to make that claim, either.

Sometimes I will facetiously say "THERE IS DEFINITELY NO GOD" but that's facetiousness, of course. But I have as much of a right to make that statement as anyone.

And it's not really a far-fetched idea, either. As this thread continues, we will discuss the reasons why so many people don't believe in God or gods.

I don't understand how you can say what you just said and still continue to deny the existence of God. Your whole statement just confirms what the word of God says about people like you.

"18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures." Romans 1:18-23

This is exatcly what your doing KTULU. I mean God makes it plain as day. Clear as can be. You are without excuse my brother, because even you talking about God right now is evidence that you know He exists. I just honestly pray for your soul. You need Jesus my friend.
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;1726729 said:
bible bible bible

Tell us what your thought process was when you were fornicating with that Latin chick, creating your illegitimate baby. Did you believe God was watching you at that moment or did you temporarily and conveniently forget?
 
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KTULU IS BACK;1726733 said:
Tell us what your thought process was when you were fornicating with that Latin chick, creating your illegitimate baby. Did you believe God was watching you at that moment or did you temporarily and conveniently forget?

I'm a sinner. The chief of sinners. But Thank the Lord that He provided me a way to be redeemed and cleansed from my sin by sending His Son to die on a rugged cross at calvary almost 2,000 years ago. Glory to God that I have been washed in the blood of the lamb and eternally forgiven for all my sins; past, present, and future!

Now what hope does atheism provide you? Are you going to scream for darwin on your death bed to come and save you before you meet your maker?
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;1726754 said:
I'm a sinner. The chief of sinners.
Useless bragging.

Clearly, there are worse people than yourself.

Now what hope does atheism provide you?
It relieves me that there is no cosmic dictator threatening me with eternal torture while hypocritically declaring that he loves me.

I am glad that the Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, and even Buddhists are wrong in their interpretation of the way the world works, because their ideas are ridiculous and irrational.

I am happy to live in an elegant and beautiful reality that exists without being dependent on supernatural characters.

Atheism is easily the best thing that ever happened to me.
 
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HAHAHA @ the past few posts made in here

gotta love Atheists though...they actually not that bad
 
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KTULU IS BACK;1726771 said:
Useless bragging.

Clearly, there are worse people than yourself.

It relieves me that there is no cosmic dictator threatening me with eternal torture while hypocritically declaring that he loves me.

I am glad that the Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, and even Buddhists are wrong in their interpretation of the way the world works, because their ideas are ridiculous and irrational.

I am happy to live in an elegant and beautiful reality that exists without being dependent on supernatural characters.

Atheism is easily the best thing that ever happened to me.

Far from bragging. Sin is a despicable thing. Im just confessing how sinful and wretched I am. It's nothing to be proud of. I just thank the Lord that I am now accepted by Him through faith in His Son. Hallelujah!

How is atheism the best thing that ever happened to you when your constantly trying to war with God?
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;1726801 said:
Far from bragging. Sin is a despicable thing. Im just confessing how sinful and wretched I am. It's nothing to be proud of.
There's a distinct tone of braggery in these sentiments.

How is atheism the best thing that ever happened to you when your constantly trying to war with God?
Well, since I don't think God exists, I'm obviously not deliberately "warring" with him.

And if I die and find out your specific deity exists, I'll say I don't recognize his right to rule me, and I won't repent for my stance. Any god that could create Hell is not a god worthy of devotion.

But it is equally likely that I would find out some other god exists, like Odin or Ahura Mazda or Ra. There's very few gods that would actually be cool to chill with for an eternity. Most of them seem to want human suffering, including Jesus/Jehovah, of course.
 
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