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jazzybella;6054754 said:
numbaz...80's baby;6054115 said:
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Here's also a blueprint of all of the positions on both Offense and Defense that the homie Allday posted earlier. That's also the names of all the starting players on the Falcons. That's your team right there. Get familiar with those guys. The offense is on the left side of the picture(All of the circles). The Offensive Line is the five circles at the very front that's bunched together with no separation between them.

allday1992;6050332 said:
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I read that the center has to be the best because he calls out plays to the other ppl on the ol and he has to get the ball to the qb mistake free so why is he rated poor?

@jazzybella

Not a bad question & yea the Center's role is very important like you said.

Our former Center retired last season. He played Center for the Falcons for 14 years. The new Center, Peter Konz, is replacing him this year and is rated so poor because this is only his 2nd year in the NFL & this is his 1st year playing Center.

It is a concern but I think he'll be alright. He was the best Center in College football ball two years ago.

SN: Let me know if you got anymore questions and/or going to fast for ya. I'll break down the Tightend(TE) & Wide Receiver(WR) positions before the end of the week.

Cool because the chart says 3 wrs that seem like too many on the field trying to get the ball dnt you think?

That chart you seen is the offense that our team runs most of the time. And no, its not uncommon for 3 WRs to be on the field. The more weapons you have to score a touchdown the better. Its like clothes, you dont want to have just one or two outfits. You want to have as many as you can.

If you feel that you got the O-line down & understand those positions pretty well I can break down the WRs & TEs to you later on today and explain why 3 Wide receivers on the field isnt too many.

Yep, I'm ready.

*Jalen Rose voice*

She might be young but she RED-AAAAAY!
 
numbaz...80's baby;6055885 said:
@jazzybella

Aii, here's a run through of the Tightends(TE) & Wide Receivers(WR).

Take another look at these two pictures and see where the Tightend labeled(TE) & Wide Receivers(WR) are lined up on the field.

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If you take another look at this photo you'll see the Tightend lined up at the very bottom of the picture right next to the O-Line.

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The job of the Tightend is to help the Offensive Line block the defense for literally a second or two and then go on a passing route to catch a pass from the Quarterback. Thats why he's lined up with the O-line. Now if the coach calls a running play, he doesnt leave to catch a pass. He stays there and keep blocking until the play is over. Our Tightend, Tony Gonzalez, is arguably the greatest Tightend of all time.

Here's a video of the responsibilities and actions of a Tightend.

1st video is Tony Gonzalez catching passes as a Tightend


2nd video is a college Tightend blocking for running plays


As you seen from the 1st picture, the Wide Receivers(WR) are lined up on the outside on opposite sides of the field on offense. They do a little bit of blocking as well but thats only when its a running play or for screen passes. They block the Cornerback(CB) who's on defense trying to tackle one of our players with the ball on offense. Their man responsibility is to catch passes thrown to them from the Quarterback(QB). Our two Wide Receivers, Roddy White & Julio Jones, are also arguably the best WR tandem in the NFL right now.

Here's also a video of what they do. You don't have to watch the whole video. Just some highlights here as well.

1st video is them two catches passes


2nd video is college Wide Receivers blocking on running plays


Now to explain the question you had earlier about too many WRs on the field......

The more receivers & Tightends on the field, the harder it is for the defense to stop us from scoring a touchdown. Thats more options for the Quarterback(QB) to pass to. Thats more threats and a nightmare for the defense.


What are running plays? Screen passes? And then tell me where I can go find somewhere to practice what I've learned thus far. Maybe some videos or pics of plays
 
On one hand, I want the Falcons to lock up that deal now so he won't ask for the world if we win the SB like Flacco did.

On the other hand, starting off the season without a deal would be extra motivation for Ryan to ball out. But shit, he was one of the last top pick QBs to get a big rookie contract so it ain't like he eatin' Ramen noodles out chea.
 
numbaz...80's baby;6061134 said:
@jazzybella

The only position on the offense that we haven't talked about is the Quarterback(QB). I'm pretty sure you know where he is on the field by now. The Falcons' QB is #2 Matt Ryan. This is the most important position on every team imo. Everything on the offense revolves around him. He's who the offensive line is blocking for. He's the guy who passes the ball to the receivers & tightends. He's the guy who hands the ball off the running back.

Here's a video of Matt Ryan's highlights. Watching the whole thing isn't necessary. Just watch a lil bit and get an idea of what he does.


The coaches are the ppl who call the plays and decides if the team is going to run the ball or pass it. The Quarterback has the option to change the play if he sees a weakness in the defense that he can take advantage of. That's what you call an "audible". He can change a running play into a passing play or vice versa. Watch the video below at the 10:37 second mark you'll see the Quarterback changing the play at the last minute. That right there is a specific audible that I am talking about.


If you watch at the 1:44 second mark of this same video below, you'll see the Quarterback directing where he wants his Receiver(#11 Julio Jones) to move to on the field. You'll also see him talking to the Offensive Line to make sure they block a specific person on the defense. The Center is also talking to the rest of the O-Line as well to make sure they got the message.


The Quarterback is the leader of the team. He has to be poise, he has to be accurate and he has to make quick decisions as well as smart ones. He also doesn't have that much time to make those decisions because the defense is coming to tackle him. He has to get rid of the ball by passing as soon as possible because on average Quarterbacks only have about 3, maybe 4 seconds to pass the ball.


You're late :!! Hopefully you have better timing when we talk defense
 
Kutty got the best job in sports right now.

It doesn't make it "easy" but it should be fun. No such thing as easy in pro-sports -- especially not football.

The person who should *really* eat this year is Harry Douglas.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Roddy had his biggest year. All the attention and love Julio is gettin' might make people sleep on him and he's still arguably the best possession receiver in the league.

Only question mark is the O-line. They hold up their end of the bargain then we're averaging 30 a game.
 
numbaz...80's baby;6061501 said:
jazzybella;6061396 said:
Was it tilapia with mango sauce over seasoned rice and steamed broccoli?

[-O< =P~

Baked tilapia with mozzarella cheese, white rice & broccoli.

Any questions about the QB tho?

So the QB passes to the wr and then what does he do next? Why does he wear a diff color jersey in practice or is that just tv?
 
numbaz...80's baby;6062725 said:
@jazzybella

Now we're going to run through the defense, specifically the defensive line. Those are the ppl who do the tackling like you asked not too long ago. I reposted the picture below so you can see where they're lined up as well. On this photo the defensive line(D-line) are the 4 ppl lined up at the front of the defense.

They line up by position as:

Right End(RE) Defensive Tackle(DT) Defensive Tackle(DT) Left End(LE)

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Their job is to try and sack the Quarterback to prevent him from passing the ball or try to sack him to make him nervous and mess up and throw a bad pass. Another responsibility of the D-line is to tackle the running back before he gains too many yards while running the ball.

Here's a video showing an example of that....


Ok. Lets talk the logistics of yards. Why are they so important? How do they impact the game?
 
numbaz...80's baby;6062818 said:
jazzybella;6062777 said:
numbaz...80's baby;6062725 said:
@jazzybella

Now we're going to run through the defense, specifically the defensive line. Those are the ppl who do the tackling like you asked not too long ago. I reposted the picture below so you can see where they're lined up as well. On this photo the defensive line(D-line) are the 4 ppl lined up at the front of the defense.

They line up by position as:

Right End(RE) Defensive Tackle(DT) Defensive Tackle(DT) Left End(LE)

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Their job is to try and sack the Quarterback to prevent him from passing the ball or try to sack him to make him nervous and mess up and throw a bad pass. Another responsibility of the D-line is to tackle the running back before he gains too many yards while running the ball.

Here's a video showing an example of that....


Ok. Lets talk the logistics of yards. Why are they so important? How do they impact the game?


There's 100 yards on a football field. You have four plays(also called "Downs") to gain 10 yards or you have to give the ball back to the other team. Thats called "a turnover on downs".

1st down & 10

2nd down & 10

3rd down & 10

4th down & 10

We talked about this a while back explaining the meaning of 1st and ten. In order to keep the ball & eventually score a touchdown(7 points) or a field goal(3 points) the team has to keep gaining at least ten yards every four downs. That averages out to at least 3 or 4 yards every play(down) right?

Once the offense gets that ten yards, they get another 4 downs to get ten yards again until they get a touchdown which is at the end of a 100 yard football field.

Now if someone from the defense sacks the Quarterback, the offense will lose some yards. Sometimes its 1 yard, 2/3 yards and sometimes its 5-10 yards.

So lets just say the QB gets sacked fir a 5 yard loss. The offense will go from 1st down & 10 to 2nd down & 15. Thats very bad for the offense. Now the have to get 15 yards in 3 plays(downs).


Yea that was a lot to take in...its still a lil confusing but I'll reread it
 
numbaz...80's baby;6063311 said:
jazzybella;6063121 said:
numbaz...80's baby;6062818 said:
jazzybella;6062777 said:
numbaz...80's baby;6062725 said:
@jazzybella

Now we're going to run through the defense, specifically the defensive line. Those are the ppl who do the tackling like you asked not too long ago. I reposted the picture below so you can see where they're lined up as well. On this photo the defensive line(D-line) are the 4 ppl lined up at the front of the defense.

They line up by position as:

Right End(RE) Defensive Tackle(DT) Defensive Tackle(DT) Left End(LE)

depth-ATL-2.png


Their job is to try and sack the Quarterback to prevent him from passing the ball or try to sack him to make him nervous and mess up and throw a bad pass. Another responsibility of the D-line is to tackle the running back before he gains too many yards while running the ball.

Here's a video showing an example of that....


Ok. Lets talk the logistics of yards. Why are they so important? How do they impact the game?


There's 100 yards on a football field. You have four plays(also called "Downs") to gain 10 yards or you have to give the ball back to the other team. Thats called "a turnover on downs".

1st down & 10

2nd down & 10

3rd down & 10

4th down & 10

We talked about this a while back explaining the meaning of 1st and ten. In order to keep the ball & eventually score a touchdown(7 points) or a field goal(3 points) the team has to keep gaining at least ten yards every four downs. That averages out to at least 3 or 4 yards every play(down) right?

Once the offense gets that ten yards, they get another 4 downs to get ten yards again until they get a touchdown which is at the end of a 100 yard football field.

Now if someone from the defense sacks the Quarterback, the offense will lose some yards. Sometimes its 1 yard, 2/3 yards and sometimes its 5-10 yards.

So lets just say the QB gets sacked fir a 5 yard loss. The offense will go from 1st down & 10 to 2nd down & 15. Thats very bad for the offense. Now the have to get 15 yards in 3 plays(downs).


Yea that was a lot to take in...its still a lil confusing but I'll reread it


@jazzybella

its simple shawty

The first play it is 1st and 10.

Now on the first play on 1st and 10, lets say the running back runs the ball for 3 yards.

Now on the second play its 2nd and 7. That makes sense?

Now the offense needs 7 yards to get a first down.

On 2nd and 7, lets say the offense passes the ball and gets 5 yards.

Now its 3rd and 2 & the offense only needs 2 yards for a first down. Simple math.....

On the 3rd play which is 3rd and 2, lets say the QB tries to pass the ball and gets sacked by the defensive line for a loss of 4 yards.

Now its 4th and 6.


Ok...ok. its just simple math with the yards. I get it now. Aight I'm ready to debate this season. That's everybody, right?
 
jazzybella;6063487 said:
numbaz...80's baby;6063311 said:
jazzybella;6063121 said:
numbaz...80's baby;6062818 said:
jazzybella;6062777 said:
numbaz...80's baby;6062725 said:
@jazzybella

Now we're going to run through the defense, specifically the defensive line. Those are the ppl who do the tackling like you asked not too long ago. I reposted the picture below so you can see where they're lined up as well. On this photo the defensive line(D-line) are the 4 ppl lined up at the front of the defense.

They line up by position as:

Right End(RE) Defensive Tackle(DT) Defensive Tackle(DT) Left End(LE)

depth-ATL-2.png


Their job is to try and sack the Quarterback to prevent him from passing the ball or try to sack him to make him nervous and mess up and throw a bad pass. Another responsibility of the D-line is to tackle the running back before he gains too many yards while running the ball.

Here's a video showing an example of that....


Ok. Lets talk the logistics of yards. Why are they so important? How do they impact the game?


There's 100 yards on a football field. You have four plays(also called "Downs") to gain 10 yards or you have to give the ball back to the other team. Thats called "a turnover on downs".

1st down & 10

2nd down & 10

3rd down & 10

4th down & 10

We talked about this a while back explaining the meaning of 1st and ten. In order to keep the ball & eventually score a touchdown(7 points) or a field goal(3 points) the team has to keep gaining at least ten yards every four downs. That averages out to at least 3 or 4 yards every play(down) right?

Once the offense gets that ten yards, they get another 4 downs to get ten yards again until they get a touchdown which is at the end of a 100 yard football field.

Now if someone from the defense sacks the Quarterback, the offense will lose some yards. Sometimes its 1 yard, 2/3 yards and sometimes its 5-10 yards.

So lets just say the QB gets sacked fir a 5 yard loss. The offense will go from 1st down & 10 to 2nd down & 15. Thats very bad for the offense. Now the have to get 15 yards in 3 plays(downs).


Yea that was a lot to take in...its still a lil confusing but I'll reread it


@jazzybella

its simple shawty

The first play it is 1st and 10.

Now on the first play on 1st and 10, lets say the running back runs the ball for 3 yards.

Now on the second play its 2nd and 7. That makes sense?

Now the offense needs 7 yards to get a first down.

On 2nd and 7, lets say the offense passes the ball and gets 5 yards.

Now its 3rd and 2 & the offense only needs 2 yards for a first down. Simple math.....

On the 3rd play which is 3rd and 2, lets say the QB tries to pass the ball and gets sacked by the defensive line for a loss of 4 yards.

Now its 4th and 6.


Ok...ok. its just simple math with the yards. I get it now. Aight I'm ready to debate this season. That's everybody, right?


Yep. You officially pretty much have the same level of football knowledge as the average CS poster.

Congrats.

You'll be dry-hating on QB's and random teams that have no affiliation with you or "your team" in NO time.
 
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greenwood1921;6063520 said:
jazzybella;6063487 said:
numbaz...80's baby;6063311 said:
jazzybella;6063121 said:
numbaz...80's baby;6062818 said:
jazzybella;6062777 said:
numbaz...80's baby;6062725 said:
@jazzybella

Now we're going to run through the defense, specifically the defensive line. Those are the ppl who do the tackling like you asked not too long ago. I reposted the picture below so you can see where they're lined up as well. On this photo the defensive line(D-line) are the 4 ppl lined up at the front of the defense.

They line up by position as:

Right End(RE) Defensive Tackle(DT) Defensive Tackle(DT) Left End(LE)

depth-ATL-2.png


Their job is to try and sack the Quarterback to prevent him from passing the ball or try to sack him to make him nervous and mess up and throw a bad pass. Another responsibility of the D-line is to tackle the running back before he gains too many yards while running the ball.

Here's a video showing an example of that....


Ok. Lets talk the logistics of yards. Why are they so important? How do they impact the game?


There's 100 yards on a football field. You have four plays(also called "Downs") to gain 10 yards or you have to give the ball back to the other team. Thats called "a turnover on downs".

1st down & 10

2nd down & 10

3rd down & 10

4th down & 10

We talked about this a while back explaining the meaning of 1st and ten. In order to keep the ball & eventually score a touchdown(7 points) or a field goal(3 points) the team has to keep gaining at least ten yards every four downs. That averages out to at least 3 or 4 yards every play(down) right?

Once the offense gets that ten yards, they get another 4 downs to get ten yards again until they get a touchdown which is at the end of a 100 yard football field.

Now if someone from the defense sacks the Quarterback, the offense will lose some yards. Sometimes its 1 yard, 2/3 yards and sometimes its 5-10 yards.

So lets just say the QB gets sacked fir a 5 yard loss. The offense will go from 1st down & 10 to 2nd down & 15. Thats very bad for the offense. Now the have to get 15 yards in 3 plays(downs).


Yea that was a lot to take in...its still a lil confusing but I'll reread it


@jazzybella

its simple shawty

The first play it is 1st and 10.

Now on the first play on 1st and 10, lets say the running back runs the ball for 3 yards.

Now on the second play its 2nd and 7. That makes sense?

Now the offense needs 7 yards to get a first down.

On 2nd and 7, lets say the offense passes the ball and gets 5 yards.

Now its 3rd and 2 & the offense only needs 2 yards for a first down. Simple math.....

On the 3rd play which is 3rd and 2, lets say the QB tries to pass the ball and gets sacked by the defensive line for a loss of 4 yards.

Now its 4th and 6.


Ok...ok. its just simple math with the yards. I get it now. Aight I'm ready to debate this season. That's everybody, right?


Yep. You officially pretty much have the same level of football knowledge as the average CS poster.

Congrats.

You'll be dry-hating on QB's and random teams that have no affiliation with you or "your team" in NO time.


Your sarcasm is dutifully noted =D>
 
Ay @jazzybella

It's 1 & 10 and the runningback runs for 6 yards. The next play the quarterback is sacked for a 10 yard loss. The next play the QB completes a 13 yard pass. Whats the down situation? Did they get another first down?
 
coop9889;6067591 said:
Ay @jazzybella

It's 1 & 10 and the runningback runs for 6 yards. The next play the quarterback is sacked for a 10 yard loss. The next play the QB completes a 13 yard pass. Whats the down situation? Did they get another first down?

1& 10 w/ rb running 6yds, the next play would be 2 down & 4 so we need 4 yards to get a down

Then we lose 10 more yds so that makes 3 & 14 yds to get a down

But the QB passes 13 yds so that makes 4 down and 1 yard left. Right [-O<
 
jazzybella;6068121 said:
coop9889;6067591 said:
Ay @jazzybella

It's 1 & 10 and the runningback runs for 6 yards. The next play the quarterback is sacked for a 10 yard loss. The next play the QB completes a 13 yard pass. Whats the down situation? Did they get another first down?

1& 10 w/ rb running 6yds, the next play would be 2 down & 4 so we need 4 yards to get a down

Then we lose 10 more yds so that makes 3 & 14 yds to get a down

But the QB passes 13 yds so that makes 4 down and 1 yard left. Right [-O<

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numbaz...80's baby;6068245 said:
@jazzybella

Here are some common penalties called in the NFL. These penalties will give the offense free yard gains if it's done by the defense. The offense will lose yards if they commit the penalties themselves.

Facemask Penalty: It's when a player grabs the face mask part of the opponents' facemask. Its a five yard loss if it's done by accident and a 15 yard penalty if it's done on purpose.

Here's a video example.


Encroachment: When a defensive player crosses the line of scrimmage and makes contact with an opponent before the ball is snapped. Encroachment is a 5-yard penalty.


False start: When an interior lineman on the offensive team moves prior to the snap of the ball, or when any offensive player makes a quick, abrupt movement prior to the snap of the ball. This is a 5-yard penalty.

The Tightend does a False start at the 6 second mark.


Holding (defensive): When a defensive player tackles or holds an offensive player other than the ball carrier. The penalty is 5 yards and an automatic first down.

Holding (offensive): When an offensive player uses his hands, arms, or other parts of his body to prevent a defensive player from tackling the ball carrier. The penalty is 10 yards.

1st 2 minutes and 45 seconds explains it.


Offside: When any part of a player’s body is beyond the line of scrimmage or free kick line when the ball is put into play. Offside is a 5-yard penalty.


Pass interference: A judgment call made by an official who sees a defensive player make contact with the intended receiver before the ball arrives, thus restricting his opportunity to catch the forward pass. In the NFL, this penalty awards the offensive team the ball at the spot of the foul with an automatic first down. In college, pass interference is a 15-yard penalty and an automatic first down.


Personal foul: An illegal, flagrant foul considered risky to the health of another player. A personal foul is a 15-yard penalty.


Roughing the kicker: When a defensive player makes any contact with the punter, provided the defensive player hasn’t touched the kicked ball before contact. This is a 15-yard penalty and an automatic first down.


Roughing the passer: When a defensive player makes direct contact with the quarterback after the quarterback has released the ball. This is a 15-yard penalty and an automatic first down.

30 second mark


Are there diff color flags for each penalty?
 

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