rapmastermind
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I'm sorry I got love for Lupe but if you are going to remake a Classic, you got to do better than this.
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rapmastermind;4470234 said:Exactly, why didn't Pete at least get a copy of the record 1st? Plus Lupe's producers didn't do much to the beat, he's just basically rapping over TROY.
lamontbdc;4470240 said:2 things i don't get
1. what the fuck makes lupe song a remake? using the same beat doesn't make a song a remake. the content on the songs are totally different.
2. so the label contacting for permission to use the beat is supposed to mean that you are gonna be in the studio working with lupe. while him and his team re do the beat. seems like a bit of a stretch.
kinda sound like PR changing stories he says he told them know then told them yes b/c they caught him at a weak ponit where he was dealing with the death of heavy, then it's i told them yes but with conditions.
just stay your ass off twitter next time call lupe up 1st
rapmastermind;4470268 said:lamontbdc;4470240 said:2 things i don't get
1. what the fuck makes lupe song a remake? using the same beat doesn't make a song a remake. the content on the songs are totally different.
2. so the label contacting for permission to use the beat is supposed to mean that you are gonna be in the studio working with lupe. while him and his team re do the beat. seems like a bit of a stretch.
kinda sound like PR changing stories he says he told them know then told them yes b/c they caught him at a weak ponit where he was dealing with the death of heavy, then it's i told them yes but with conditions.
just stay your ass off twitter next time call lupe up 1st
Well Lupe does start his song talking about "R.I.P." so the connection is obviously there. Sure it was probably label politics but Lupe of all people should of been able to reach out to Pete to get him the studio and if you aren't going use Pete even though that's what you agreed to the very least you do is send him the track before you release it. Lupe is wrong to me in this situation.
lamontbdc;4470322 said:Personally I don't get any connection with this song from Lupe to TROY. To me this is what i call a remake and really paying homage. Lupe just used the same beat.
I was originally on PR's side but as this keeps playing out to me it seems like it was blown out of proportion on both ends but that PR is more at fault. It sounds good that he would be involved and that Lupe would let him hear the song 1st but this isn't pre school and shit doens't always come off fairly, PR been in the game long enough to know that.
I'm still lost at PR releasing that statement saying him and Lupe talked it out and there is no beef. then Lupe calls and say they didn't talk it all out and he was heated. then PR just says that the phone call was confrontational.
ocelot;4470327 said:NY and their Gawd mentality...smh
Just get the check and let the people decide if its on par...
You can't get mad if your job is to take musicians songs that they made from scratch and flip it...
Pete Rock didn't invent the sound of Juicy so if a nigga like Lil Jon want to flip it then he shouldn't get mad...
That's the point though. He wanted to rap over the Troy beat but couldn't because of some sample that was never cleared back in '94 or whenever it originally dropped.rapmastermind;4470234 said:Exactly, why didn't Pete at least get a copy of the record 1st? Plus Lupe's producers didn't do much to the beat, he's just basically rapping over TROY.
Turfaholic;4470421 said:Lupe doesnt need to do shit. Troy is a classic no doubt. But just because its a NY classic doesnt make it unctouchable. Nobody complained when Jim Jones remade a Eazy-E track with "Certified Gangstas. Nobody said shit when The Diplomats remade "Im Bout It".
allparish12;4470695 said:Turfaholic;4470421 said:Lupe doesnt need to do shit. Troy is a classic no doubt. But just because its a NY classic doesnt make it unctouchable. Nobody complained when Jim Jones remade a Eazy-E track with "Certified Gangstas. Nobody said shit when The Diplomats remade "Im Bout It".
shiidd...i liked Dipset's "bout it" remix...it was cool to see some east coast cats rap on a down south track...
Turfaholic;4470750 said:allparish12;4470695 said:Turfaholic;4470421 said:Lupe doesnt need to do shit. Troy is a classic no doubt. But just because its a NY classic doesnt make it unctouchable. Nobody complained when Jim Jones remade a Eazy-E track with "Certified Gangstas. Nobody said shit when The Diplomats remade "Im Bout It".
shiidd...i liked Dipset's "bout it" remix...it was cool to see some east coast cats rap on a down south track...
yea, it was a good song. P showed love and hopped on it.
"Im Bout It" is arguably more "Iconic" than TROY. "Im Bout It" pretty much ushered in the southern dynasty in hip hop which still goes on today. But didnt nobody from Nawleans complain when the Dip barrowed it. But everybody up in arms when a respected artist from the Chi barrows one of the Meccas joint.