New Lupe Fiasco Single: Around My Way + Lupe's Response to Pete Rock

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rapmastermind;4470234 said:
Exactly, why didn't Pete at least get a copy of the record 1st? Plus Lupe's producers didn't do much to the beat, he's just basically rapping over TROY.

basically. This some shit you release ONLY with the Pete's blessing and even then why touch it>? Theres nothing dude could've done to equal the original.... NOTHING.

 
lamontbdc;4470240 said:
2 things i don't get

1. what the fuck makes lupe song a remake? using the same beat doesn't make a song a remake. the content on the songs are totally different.

2. so the label contacting for permission to use the beat is supposed to mean that you are gonna be in the studio working with lupe. while him and his team re do the beat. seems like a bit of a stretch.

kinda sound like PR changing stories he says he told them know then told them yes b/c they caught him at a weak ponit where he was dealing with the death of heavy, then it's i told them yes but with conditions.

just stay your ass off twitter next time call lupe up 1st

Well Lupe does start his song talking about "R.I.P." so the connection is obviously there. Sure it was probably label politics but Lupe of all people should of been able to reach out to Pete to get him the studio and if you aren't going use Pete even though that's what you agreed to the very least you do is send him the track before you release it. Lupe is wrong to me in this situation.

 
rapmastermind;4470268 said:
lamontbdc;4470240 said:
2 things i don't get

1. what the fuck makes lupe song a remake? using the same beat doesn't make a song a remake. the content on the songs are totally different.

2. so the label contacting for permission to use the beat is supposed to mean that you are gonna be in the studio working with lupe. while him and his team re do the beat. seems like a bit of a stretch.

kinda sound like PR changing stories he says he told them know then told them yes b/c they caught him at a weak ponit where he was dealing with the death of heavy, then it's i told them yes but with conditions.

just stay your ass off twitter next time call lupe up 1st

Well Lupe does start his song talking about "R.I.P." so the connection is obviously there. Sure it was probably label politics but Lupe of all people should of been able to reach out to Pete to get him the studio and if you aren't going use Pete even though that's what you agreed to the very least you do is send him the track before you release it. Lupe is wrong to me in this situation.

Personally I don't get any connection with this song from Lupe to TROY. To me this is what i call a remake and really paying homage. Lupe just used the same beat.


I was originally on PR's side but as this keeps playing out to me it seems like it was blown out of proportion on both ends but that PR is more at fault. It sounds good that he would be involved and that Lupe would let him hear the song 1st but this isn't pre school and shit doens't always come off fairly, PR been in the game long enough to know that.

I'm still lost at PR releasing that statement saying him and Lupe talked it out and there is no beef. then Lupe calls and say they didn't talk it all out and he was heated. then PR just says that the phone call was confrontational.
 
NY and their Gawd mentality...smh

Just get the check and let the people decide if its on par...

You can't get mad if your job is to take musicians songs that they made from scratch and flip it...

Pete Rock didn't invent the sound of Juicy so if a nigga like Lil Jon want to flip it then he shouldn't get mad...

 
lamontbdc;4470322 said:
Personally I don't get any connection with this song from Lupe to TROY. To me this is what i call a remake and really paying homage. Lupe just used the same beat.


I was originally on PR's side but as this keeps playing out to me it seems like it was blown out of proportion on both ends but that PR is more at fault. It sounds good that he would be involved and that Lupe would let him hear the song 1st but this isn't pre school and shit doens't always come off fairly, PR been in the game long enough to know that.

I'm still lost at PR releasing that statement saying him and Lupe talked it out and there is no beef. then Lupe calls and say they didn't talk it all out and he was heated. then PR just says that the phone call was confrontational.


It's a remake in the vien of Diddy and Ma$e "Can't Hold Me Down" remaking "The Message". Same Beat, nothing is changed but the lyrics are slightly different.
 
ocelot;4470327 said:
NY and their Gawd mentality...smh



Just get the check and let the people decide if its on par...

You can't get mad if your job is to take musicians songs that they made from scratch and flip it...


Pete Rock didn't invent the sound of Juicy so if a nigga like Lil Jon want to flip it then he shouldn't get mad...

On some real shit tho, if you were a rapper with some classic shit you wouldn't allow niggas to do whatever they wanted to something you put blood, sweat, and tears into.
 
rapmastermind;4470234 said:
Exactly, why didn't Pete at least get a copy of the record 1st? Plus Lupe's producers didn't do much to the beat, he's just basically rapping over TROY.
That's the point though. He wanted to rap over the Troy beat but couldn't because of some sample that was never cleared back in '94 or whenever it originally dropped.

 
Lupe doesnt need to do shit. Troy is a classic no doubt. But just because its a NY classic doesnt make it unctouchable. Nobody complained when Jim Jones remade a Eazy-E track with "Certified Gangstas. Nobody said shit when The Diplomats remade "Im Bout It".
 
smh niggas all sensitive, i figured this story was gon be about Lupe actin like he aint never heard it before or it was wack or somethin

Remake wtf you want, aint like niggas gotta like it or listen it to it for that matter. I know i didnt *shrugs* Long as a nigga pay homage, who really cares besides homie himself? I bet the bank none of yall even got the vinyl record, stop actin like yall really that real about this shyt
 
Turfaholic;4470421 said:
Lupe doesnt need to do shit. Troy is a classic no doubt. But just because its a NY classic doesnt make it unctouchable. Nobody complained when Jim Jones remade a Eazy-E track with "Certified Gangstas. Nobody said shit when The Diplomats remade "Im Bout It".

didn't cam rhyme over the ambitionz as a ridah instrumental on one album as well?
 
Shits sad that they gotta argue in public like that...and smh and Lupe gettin mad on the radio...that's some Bitch ass nigga shit to do....Sounds like the Record label folks is the most to blame
 
@SpremeXXV

Tell that to Quincy Jones who is a real Producer and put his real blood sweat and tears... Not a nigga who took his shit and made it sound something else... Pete should be the last nigga hating on niggas for taking something and flipping it... Don't knock the hustle now...lol
 
allparish12;4470695 said:
Turfaholic;4470421 said:
Lupe doesnt need to do shit. Troy is a classic no doubt. But just because its a NY classic doesnt make it unctouchable. Nobody complained when Jim Jones remade a Eazy-E track with "Certified Gangstas. Nobody said shit when The Diplomats remade "Im Bout It".

shiidd...i liked Dipset's "bout it" remix...it was cool to see some east coast cats rap on a down south track...

yea, it was a good song. P showed love and hopped on it.

"Im Bout It" is arguably more "Iconic" than TROY. "Im Bout It" pretty much ushered in the southern dynasty in hip hop which still goes on today. But didnt nobody from Nawleans complain when the Dip barrowed it. But everybody up in arms when a respected artist from the Chi barrows one of the Meccas joint.
 
Turfaholic;4470750 said:
allparish12;4470695 said:
Turfaholic;4470421 said:
Lupe doesnt need to do shit. Troy is a classic no doubt. But just because its a NY classic doesnt make it unctouchable. Nobody complained when Jim Jones remade a Eazy-E track with "Certified Gangstas. Nobody said shit when The Diplomats remade "Im Bout It".

shiidd...i liked Dipset's "bout it" remix...it was cool to see some east coast cats rap on a down south track...

yea, it was a good song. P showed love and hopped on it.

"Im Bout It" is arguably more "Iconic" than TROY. "Im Bout It" pretty much ushered in the southern dynasty in hip hop which still goes on today. But didnt nobody from Nawleans complain when the Dip barrowed it. But everybody up in arms when a respected artist from the Chi barrows one of the Meccas joint.

Come on man.

"Troy" is a dedication to a deceased friend, "I'm bout it" was an anthem.

 

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