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Eh that's a huge reach for saying that one line can make him a fan when he basically attacked someone like bill in a previous verse on the same song
 
Stiff;7784814 said:
I think the problem is that while gang violence and black on black crime are things that should be addressed..why must they always be addressed in the same conversation as unequal protection under the law?

Whenever you put the two issues together it's like you're justifying one with the other. If the matter at hand is gang violence then let it be gang violence. If the matter at hand is the fucked up justice system then let it be that. You cloudy shit when you merge the issues like that because they have nothing to do with each other.

Nah, its more like you are damning them both.

Only the hypocrites are hurt by a true comparison. The mirror's truth hurts.

 
Kwan Dai;7784887 said:
EyeofAsaru;7784880 said:
Freeman......;7784723 said:
I don't believe in this herb ass nigga and he dont represent me all of sudden. Yall lemmings can get the fuck on with that. But I definitely fuck with the track sonically. It bumps and has a good msg even if the messenger is a fuck nigga.

That's what I'm saying...these niggas have a groupie gene thinking this nigga Kendrick Lamar is some sort of savior..gtfoh with that bullshit..

The track is fire but you're highly mistaken if you think lamar is a true activist..

Mostly nerds follow him...he doesn't have the streets...to start a true revolution you need to capture both elements...

He's a great emcee..just leave at that

I don't know. These new nig nogs think any rapper that rhymes like they just smoke a blunt while having a cold is great. There is so much singy songy bullshit out there anything with a hint of rasp sounds hardcore.

The Blackman in america has been watered down genetically therefore the natural tone and rhythms of black people have changed from the natural tones of previous generations..people dont like hearing that type of shit but its truth...

That being said Kendrick has enough natural rasp and melanin magic to ride beats impeccably and create good tracks..

Is he the next pac? No

Big? No

Nas? Hell no

Those emcees were from a golden era where black people generally still maintained a sense of racial pride and shunned gentrification pushed on them by outside forces

You can see the traces of that greatness in Kendrick but its not as potent as a "fight the power"

Kendrick is a reflection of today's internet driven society...where people passively speak against the injustices of society from behind their computers..

I give Cole more credit for actually getting out there in the trenches despite of him also being a generally passive speaker on these type of matters..

These new niggas like to play it safe..

Go listen to ice cube death certificate album..cube did not give two fucks about speaking out against the enemy..his album was the soundtrack to the la riots

 
EyeofAsaru;7784977 said:
Kwan Dai;7784887 said:
EyeofAsaru;7784880 said:
Freeman......;7784723 said:
I don't believe in this herb ass nigga and he dont represent me all of sudden. Yall lemmings can get the fuck on with that. But I definitely fuck with the track sonically. It bumps and has a good msg even if the messenger is a fuck nigga.

That's what I'm saying...these niggas have a groupie gene thinking this nigga Kendrick Lamar is some sort of savior..gtfoh with that bullshit..

The track is fire but you're highly mistaken if you think lamar is a true activist..

Mostly nerds follow him...he doesn't have the streets...to start a true revolution you need to capture both elements...

He's a great emcee..just leave at that

I don't know. These new nig nogs think any rapper that rhymes like they just smoke a blunt while having a cold is great. There is so much singy songy bullshit out there anything with a hint of rasp sounds hardcore.

The Blackman in america has been watered down genetically therefore the natural tone and rhythms of black people have changed from the natural tones of previous generations..people dont like hearing that type of shit but its truth...

That being said Kendrick has enough natural rasp and melanin magic to ride beats impeccably and create good tracks..

Is he the next pac? No

Big? No

Nas? Hell no

Those emcees were from a golden era where black people generally still maintained a sense of racial pride and shunned gentrification pushed on them by outside forces

You can see the traces of that greatness in Kendrick but its not as potent as a "fight the power"

Kendrick is a reflection of today's internet driven society...where people passively speak against the injustices of society from behind their computers..

I give Cole more credit for actually getting out there in the trenches despite of him also being a generally passive speaker on these type of matters..

These new niggas like to play it safe..

Go listen to ice cube death certificate album..cube did not give two fucks about speaking out against the enemy..his album was the soundtrack to the la riots

again, stop using words if you don't know what they mean
 
StoneColdMikey;7784971 said:
Eh that's a huge reach for saying that one line can make him a fan when he basically attacked someone like bill in a previous verse on the same song

Every verse of the song was speaking from the perspective of a Black man. The 2nd verse was from the perspective of a "sell-out" Black man.

2nd verse:

I'm the biggest hypocrite of 2015

Once I finish this, witnesses will convey just what I mean

I mean, it's evident that I'm irrelevant to society

That's what you're telling me, penitentiary would only hire me

Curse me till I'm dead

Church me with your fake prophesizing that I'mma be just another slave in my head

Institutionalize manipulation and lies

Reciprocation of freedom only live in your eyes

You hate me don't you?

I know you hate me just as much as you hate yourself

Jealous of my wisdom and cards I dealt

Watchin' me as I pull up, fill up my tank, then peel out

Muscle cars like pull ups, show you what these big wheels 'bout, ah

Black and successful, this black man meant to be special

CAT scans on my radar bitch, how can I help you?

How can I tell you I'm making a killin'?

You made me a killer, emancipation of a real nigga


In the 2nd verse he's talking from the perspective of a Black man who "made it" who looks down on other Black people
 
blacktux;7784976 said:
Stiff;7784814 said:
I think the problem is that while gang violence and black on black crime are things that should be addressed..why must they always be addressed in the same conversation as unequal protection under the law?

Whenever you put the two issues together it's like you're justifying one with the other. If the matter at hand is gang violence then let it be gang violence. If the matter at hand is the fucked up justice system then let it be that. You cloudy shit when you merge the issues like that because they have nothing to do with each other.

Nah, its more like you are damning them both.

Only the hypocrites are hurt by a true comparison. The mirror's truth hurts.

Killing an unarmed Black Man and being set free after racially profiling them isn't a true comparison when compared to gang violence. It's not even close. To attempt to compare them is appalling.

 
EyeofAsaru;7784977 said:
Kwan Dai;7784887 said:
EyeofAsaru;7784880 said:
Freeman......;7784723 said:
I don't believe in this herb ass nigga and he dont represent me all of sudden. Yall lemmings can get the fuck on with that. But I definitely fuck with the track sonically. It bumps and has a good msg even if the messenger is a fuck nigga.

That's what I'm saying...these niggas have a groupie gene thinking this nigga Kendrick Lamar is some sort of savior..gtfoh with that bullshit..

The track is fire but you're highly mistaken if you think lamar is a true activist..

Mostly nerds follow him...he doesn't have the streets...to start a true revolution you need to capture both elements...

He's a great emcee..just leave at that

I don't know. These new nig nogs think any rapper that rhymes like they just smoke a blunt while having a cold is great. There is so much singy songy bullshit out there anything with a hint of rasp sounds hardcore.

The Blackman in america has been watered down genetically therefore the natural tone and rhythms of black people have changed from the natural tones of previous generations..people dont like hearing that type of shit but its truth...

That being said Kendrick has enough natural rasp and melanin magic to ride beats impeccably and create good tracks..

Is he the next pac? No

Big? No

Nas? Hell no

Those emcees were from a golden era where black people generally still maintained a sense of racial pride and shunned gentrification pushed on them by outside forces

You can see the traces of that greatness in Kendrick but its not as potent as a "fight the power"

Kendrick is a reflection of today's internet driven society...where people passively speak against the injustices of society from behind their computers..

I give Cole more credit for actually getting out there in the trenches despite of him also being a generally passive speaker on these type of matters..

These new niggas like to play it safe..

Go listen to ice cube death certificate album..cube did not give two fucks about speaking out against the enemy..his album was the soundtrack to the la riots

I'm not impressed with Kendrick. I prefer Bashir Jones for any real social commentary from our younger generation of MC's. But the rest of your commentary I agree with 100%.

 
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AggyAF;7784982 said:
EyeofAsaru;7784977 said:
Kwan Dai;7784887 said:
EyeofAsaru;7784880 said:
Freeman......;7784723 said:
I don't believe in this herb ass nigga and he dont represent me all of sudden. Yall lemmings can get the fuck on with that. But I definitely fuck with the track sonically. It bumps and has a good msg even if the messenger is a fuck nigga.

That's what I'm saying...these niggas have a groupie gene thinking this nigga Kendrick Lamar is some sort of savior..gtfoh with that bullshit..

The track is fire but you're highly mistaken if you think lamar is a true activist..

Mostly nerds follow him...he doesn't have the streets...to start a true revolution you need to capture both elements...

He's a great emcee..just leave at that

I don't know. These new nig nogs think any rapper that rhymes like they just smoke a blunt while having a cold is great. There is so much singy songy bullshit out there anything with a hint of rasp sounds hardcore.

The Blackman in america has been watered down genetically therefore the natural tone and rhythms of black people have changed from the natural tones of previous generations..people dont like hearing that type of shit but its truth...

That being said Kendrick has enough natural rasp and melanin magic to ride beats impeccably and create good tracks..

Is he the next pac? No

Big? No

Nas? Hell no

Those emcees were from a golden era where black people generally still maintained a sense of racial pride and shunned gentrification pushed on them by outside forces

You can see the traces of that greatness in Kendrick but its not as potent as a "fight the power"

Kendrick is a reflection of today's internet driven society...where people passively speak against the injustices of society from behind their computers..

I give Cole more credit for actually getting out there in the trenches despite of him also being a generally passive speaker on these type of matters..

These new niggas like to play it safe..

Go listen to ice cube death certificate album..cube did not give two fucks about speaking out against the enemy..his album was the soundtrack to the la riots

again, stop using words if you don't know what they mean
http://i.word.com/idictionary/gentrification

Nigga u love trying to pick apart my message...just like a FBI agent...and no I didn't misuse that word..people from that era did shun white rich people coming in and restructuring what they felt were their neighborhoods..

It's the devils language anyways..so whether you saying blood clot or gentrification you still speaking the cacasu language so stfu and pay attention to the message fool...

 
blacktux;7784976 said:
Stiff;7784814 said:
I think the problem is that while gang violence and black on black crime are things that should be addressed..why must they always be addressed in the same conversation as unequal protection under the law?

Whenever you put the two issues together it's like you're justifying one with the other. If the matter at hand is gang violence then let it be gang violence. If the matter at hand is the fucked up justice system then let it be that. You cloudy shit when you merge the issues like that because they have nothing to do with each other.

Nah, its more like you are damning them both.

Only the hypocrites are hurt by a true comparison. The mirror's truth hurts.

It's not a valid comparison tho.

In one scenario you end with a dead black man and another black man in prison , or ultimately dead himself.

In the other scenario you have a dead black man and a white man who is made into a millionaire(Darren Wilson and George Zimmerman both received over a million dollars in compensation for their actions).

or at least exonerated. You also can't ignore the historical context that this scenario falls under.
 
Stiff;7784957 said:
Already Home_17;7784923 said:
Stiff;7784814 said:
I think the problem is that while gang violence and black on black crime are things that should be addressed..why must they always be addressed in the same conversation as unequal protection under the law?

Whenever you put the two issues together it's like you're justifying one with the other. If the matter at hand is gang violence then let it be gang violence. If the matter at hand is the fucked up justice system then let it be that. You cloudy shit when you merge the issues like that because they have nothing to do with each other.

i dont think kendrick mentioned anything about unequal protection under the law in his last verse. he's talking about senseless killings in the black community

gang on gang violence that results in prison sentencing isnt the same as the police killing unarmed black people that results in on paid suspension and zero indictments. this argument is used when people say stupid shit like "why dont blacks riot and protest when they kill eachother". i kept hearing and i said myself the black on black violence shit was irrelavent at the time and was a topic for another day. like.....i dont know....today?

The whole song was actually an attack on 3 black mindstates that he perceives as hypocritical. His last line in the 3rd verse

"Why did I weep when Trayvon Martin was in the street/ When gang banging make me kill a nigga blacker than me"

That line could turn Bill O'Reilly into a Kendrick Lamar fan.

so rappers should be cautious of what they say because, of all people, bill o'reilly may agree with it?

we already know what his agenda is so fuck what he thinks
 
Already Home_17;7785021 said:
Stiff;7784957 said:
Already Home_17;7784923 said:
Stiff;7784814 said:
I think the problem is that while gang violence and black on black crime are things that should be addressed..why must they always be addressed in the same conversation as unequal protection under the law?

Whenever you put the two issues together it's like you're justifying one with the other. If the matter at hand is gang violence then let it be gang violence. If the matter at hand is the fucked up justice system then let it be that. You cloudy shit when you merge the issues like that because they have nothing to do with each other.

i dont think kendrick mentioned anything about unequal protection under the law in his last verse. he's talking about senseless killings in the black community

gang on gang violence that results in prison sentencing isnt the same as the police killing unarmed black people that results in on paid suspension and zero indictments. this argument is used when people say stupid shit like "why dont blacks riot and protest when they kill eachother". i kept hearing and i said myself the black on black violence shit was irrelavent at the time and was a topic for another day. like.....i dont know....today?

The whole song was actually an attack on 3 black mindstates that he perceives as hypocritical. His last line in the 3rd verse

"Why did I weep when Trayvon Martin was in the street/ When gang banging make me kill a nigga blacker than me"

That line could turn Bill O'Reilly into a Kendrick Lamar fan.

so rappers should be cautious of what they say because, of all people, bill o'reilly may agree with it?

we already know what his agenda is so fuck what he thinks

They should be careful not to undo the good work of people out here attempting to shed light on the killing of unarmed American citizens who happen to be mostly Blacks.

Bill Orielly works to do this every time he opens his mouth. He doesn't need rappers giving him more fuel to spread lies and deceit.

 
Kwan Dai;7785004 said:
blacktux;7784976 said:
Stiff;7784814 said:
I think the problem is that while gang violence and black on black crime are things that should be addressed..why must they always be addressed in the same conversation as unequal protection under the law?

Whenever you put the two issues together it's like you're justifying one with the other. If the matter at hand is gang violence then let it be gang violence. If the matter at hand is the fucked up justice system then let it be that. You cloudy shit when you merge the issues like that because they have nothing to do with each other.

Nah, its more like you are damning them both.

Only the hypocrites are hurt by a true comparison. The mirror's truth hurts.

Killing an unarmed Black Man and being set free after racially profiling them isn't a true comparison when compared to gang violence. It's not even close. To attempt to compare them is appalling.

When the subject is how the justice system treats both situations, id agree.

When the subject is how both entities value a black life, i would say there is a definite comparison.

Because whether the guy is guilty or innocent by court of law that black life is gone.
 
Stiff;7785020 said:
blacktux;7784976 said:
Stiff;7784814 said:
I think the problem is that while gang violence and black on black crime are things that should be addressed..why must they always be addressed in the same conversation as unequal protection under the law?

Whenever you put the two issues together it's like you're justifying one with the other. If the matter at hand is gang violence then let it be gang violence. If the matter at hand is the fucked up justice system then let it be that. You cloudy shit when you merge the issues like that because they have nothing to do with each other.

Nah, its more like you are damning them both.

Only the hypocrites are hurt by a true comparison. The mirror's truth hurts.

It's not a valid comparison tho.

In one scenario you end with a dead black man and another black man in prison , or ultimately dead himself.

In the other scenario you have a dead black man and a white man who is made into a millionaire(Darren Wilson and George Zimmerman both received over a million dollars in compensation for their actions).

or at least exonerated. You also can't ignore the historical context that this scenario falls under.

I mean are we really going to act like in "street" situations the perpetrator is always caught and bought to justice?

Lot of violence goes on in the streets where no one snitches for fear of their own life.

Or their families well being.

 
I'm surprised people haven't taken into account that Kendrick is a slave to the mainstream machine..

The "kool aid" he drinks has been contaminated

Yall better be happy yall getting some "diet real shit" from Kendrick and Cole lol...

Even ab soul was forced to put out that diet ass album after he hit niggas over the heads with that super trill shit called terrorist threats

Ab soul was dropping jewels every race needs to get in tuned with..

The new revolution is one of spiritual science..

To be honest, if black ppl talking that lets fight whitey in some sloppy buck the system crap then you can forget it..

Niggas in the hood dont have tanks,hi tech weaponry to fight that kind of war at the moment..

 
blacktux;7785063 said:
Kwan Dai;7785004 said:
blacktux;7784976 said:
Stiff;7784814 said:
I think the problem is that while gang violence and black on black crime are things that should be addressed..why must they always be addressed in the same conversation as unequal protection under the law?

Whenever you put the two issues together it's like you're justifying one with the other. If the matter at hand is gang violence then let it be gang violence. If the matter at hand is the fucked up justice system then let it be that. You cloudy shit when you merge the issues like that because they have nothing to do with each other.

Nah, its more like you are damning them both.

Only the hypocrites are hurt by a true comparison. The mirror's truth hurts.

Killing an unarmed Black Man and being set free after racially profiling them isn't a true comparison when compared to gang violence. It's not even close. To attempt to compare them is appalling.

When the subject is how the justice system treats both situations, id agree.

When the subject is how both entities value a black life, i would say there is a definite comparison.

Because whether the guy is guilty or innocent by court of law that black life is gone.

The value of Black life as perceived by both entities cannot be compared either. In one case the value of Black life is measured by skin color and a history of racism, in another the value of Black life is largely measured by survival and years of socialization.

Yes a life is taken. However, the circumstances aren't remotely close and clouding the issue doesn't help.

It's utterly ridiculous and outright condescending to imply that a gangbanger who may or may not have taken a life is a hypocrite if they choose to mourn, or weep over the deaths of unarmed innocent Blackmen walking the streets. As I said, earlier such an even might turn a brother\sister away from a life ignorance.

 
blacktux;7785089 said:
Stiff;7785020 said:
blacktux;7784976 said:
Stiff;7784814 said:
I think the problem is that while gang violence and black on black crime are things that should be addressed..why must they always be addressed in the same conversation as unequal protection under the law?

Whenever you put the two issues together it's like you're justifying one with the other. If the matter at hand is gang violence then let it be gang violence. If the matter at hand is the fucked up justice system then let it be that. You cloudy shit when you merge the issues like that because they have nothing to do with each other.

Nah, its more like you are damning them both.

Only the hypocrites are hurt by a true comparison. The mirror's truth hurts.

It's not a valid comparison tho.

In one scenario you end with a dead black man and another black man in prison , or ultimately dead himself.

In the other scenario you have a dead black man and a white man who is made into a millionaire(Darren Wilson and George Zimmerman both received over a million dollars in compensation for their actions).

or at least exonerated. You also can't ignore the historical context that this scenario falls under.

I mean are we really going to act like in "street" situations the perpetrator is always caught and bought to justice?

Lot of violence goes on in the streets where no one snitches for fear of their own life.

Or their families well being.

Seriously? Come on. There is no need to stoop to strawman arguments. Of course all perps aren't caught. However, when they are, they are arrested, charged, and sentenced.

Let's not act like their crimes are just forgotten. There are task forces, gang units etc that break in and kill innocents looking for "gang members" a.k.a Black Males that have as little as a bench warrant. Law enforcement will go as far as locking up any nigga in an attempt at "justice".

There is a reason prisons are filled to the brim with Black Males. So, there is no need to do any acting here the truth is quite evident.

 
I won't even attempt to trivialize gangbanging as mere bullshit. Shooting a nigga because, he is Black, that's cut and dry.
 

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