More and more African-Americans wondering if they’d be safer if they left the U.S.

[ghostdog56]

I'm not against the whole back to Africa shit, but let's keep it real alot of you niggas won't even live in a black community in America but you think you will be able to live in a black community in Africa?

 

[Peace_79]

We don't need coons, uncle toms, lost niggas, lazy/useless niggas coming to the motherland just to fuck everything up and make it worse. They need to stay here and die a proud slave.

In 2015, what makes a Black Person a slave?

 

[Shizlansky]

But y'all still here

 

[StillFaggyAF]

But y'all still here

We have an @ button

 

[Shizlansky]

But y'all still here

We have an @ button

We all grown on here probably in our late 20s.

We all should have the resources to move to Africa if you want to.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

But y'all still here

We have an @ button

We all grown on here probably in our late 20s.

We all should have the resources to move to Africa if you want to.

Lol

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

I live in Brazil and it´s chilled.

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

If Egypt(kmt) was in peace I would live out there.

 

[JokerzWyld]

I live in Brazil and it´s chilled.

That's dope. I'm goin out there in a few months to Rio and Igauça. Eu preciso de praticar meu portugeus brasileira.

 

[JokerzWyld]

I wonder why everybodyhas so much faith that they can work on building a life here, but can't do so abroad in Africa or the Caribbean.

because we are here and already know the culture and the opportunities are there. that is why any place in africa you go the people will say their are opportunities here.... the black community just doesnt take advantage of them.

so if you dont take advantage here...why would you go to another part of the world and think it will be easier.

secondly... i have a question. why do people think africa needs help and like the people there are not capable of taking care of themselves?

thirdly, why are you talking about going to africa with africans that are here working at your job? there is something to be said about that.

im just saying.... leave because thats what you want to do.... build in africa because that what you want to do.

to look at white people and their actions being the motivating factor for you to relocate, says that you can be broken if i apply enough pressure.

Hmmm... I'm trying to decide if I should answer this question or not.

Anyway, the Africans at my job are working here so they can retire early and/or fund their businesses via remittances. They travel home frequently for at least a month at a time, and most have plans to go back home (for good) in the near future. The question about Africans needing help shows a lack of information. I will say this: America's self-proclaimed greatness/prosperity/opportunity have a direct correlation to the abject tyranny/poverty/corruption of the third world.

To your last point, fear or being "broken" aren't necessarily factors in many pan-africanists decisions to go to Africa. Ironically, fear is more of a factor for those who don't want to go. It's natural to fear what you don't know, however, it's weak to let fear stop you. Personally, I'm a realist, and I've done my research. Some think that going to Africa means living in a mud hut in the jungle, but places like Botswana are pretty comfortable. Parts of South Africa have western amenities. Same for Namibia. But I know that people don't believe what I say or type, that's why in my original post in this thread I included going to the Caribbean Islands. Dominica, Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago are all nice and westernized, but they are still culturally distinct and aware of their African ancestry.

But maybe I'm just a daredevil. I've been to many places that most people won't go. I've seen their villages, and I've spoken their languages. Kwaheri Rafiki.

 

[_Goldie_]

I think it'll be better to leave this country and take your assets with you. If Blacks left this country en masse, the economy would contract instantly. The best way to hurt America is economically, and this tactic would do it. all of us don't have to go to the same place; some can go to the Caribbean, or some can go to the homeland. It's a good plan and a smart idea. Most coons will say no, and that's why the wiser of us should go. Just the plan alone separates the real from the fake among our community.

As for staying in America and acquiring land here for whatever purpose; I don't think it's a good idea. I've always felt this way. I know what the ancestors went through as slaves here. I know even my "free" family members gave their lives here. However, the fact remains that this land belongs to the Native Americans. It's not our place to take a piece of it just because. They deserve their homeland and we deserve ours.

why you gotta leave to do it...

stay here and do it.

i think its ok to go back to africa to help build or to do what you feel. but do not think it will be easier because of the skin color. you still have to work hard to make moves.

so if the civil rights movement gave us the power we was seeking...would you still leave?

if the police was in check would you still leave?

thing is we will have a hard time no matter where we go.

in white countries we are black

in african countries we are americans .

shit like i said earlier..... alot of africans are trying to come to america for the opportunity.

hearing shit like this, i see why alot of my african brothers call us lazy. they come here an become doctors, take advantage of education and so much more.

The interesting thing about this post is that you brought up the civil rights movement. We're still fighting for the same things the civil rights movement fought for 50 to 60 years ago. Black people in America are in a state of arrested development. The only way to move up is to leave. We've been mind-fucked for over 400 years and we've discarded so much of ourselves culturally for them that we have almost nothing left, and they still treat you the same. They still aren't satisfied.

I don't need any info on Africa, I've studied it. I've made friends with Africans at my job, and we talk often. Above all of that: I'm one of the few people on this forum and in my circle of friends who have gone to Africa and seen it first hand. I'm not afraid of work. I don't want to go for me, I want to go for our future. But like I already posted, this plan will separate the real from the fake.

I don't want power, I want peace for my progeny.

Dope. I'm definitely looking to travel to Ghana next year. What countries did you visited?

So far Tanzania. I'm going to Senegal in the next few months though. Then I'm going on an excursion to southern Africa later next year, or early 2017.

One other thing: People keep talking about how Africans don't like or respect us which is a misunderstanding to say the least. The problem with many black people here is that they have no knowledge of Africa at all. I know people from Togo, Senegal, Kenya, Cote d'Ivoire, etc. I can name many of the tribes there and I can tell you who colonized those areas.



When I was younger I used to ask random black people to name 5 countries in Africa, and most of them couldn't name one. How can they relate to people so ignorant of their origins? How would talking to such people benefit them? It's funny how people will complain about the attitudes of Africans but still give money to Asian businesses that treat you like dangerous thugs & ignorant hooligans. You can easily start a convo with someone from Africa by asking where they're from. But too many act like that's too hard.



Many are too Europeanized, and that's why we are so ignorant. Study the European "age of discovery," the colonial age, see how they never tried to understand any of the people they came in contact with. They didn't try to learn the language, or the culture; they didn't try to empathize with those they slaughtered either. so many of you act just like them.

This post Is more ignorant than the people you're accusing to be, and is why black americans have a distaste for Africans. The audacity Africans have to come into this country speak down on black americans on how lazy, ignorant, thuggish,etc we are is disgusting. Do they know that we were stripped from our history and the furthest back they'll teach you is Fredrick Douglas. We're just now becoming more accessible to information , before all we had was school.

So yall want to come here after slavery ,after the civil rights movement, and reap all the benefits while speaking down to the mothafuckas who made that possible? Man fuck you and your tribe.

@_Goldie_ you my nigga and all but stop with the weak generalisations. Not every African immigrant that moves to the Western hemisphere looks down on Western Blacks.

Every time this topic comes up someone always say this shit.

Africa has enormous problems mostly initiated by Europeans from colonialism till the present era but it is the origin of every Black person on Earth . ..

If an Afro-American wanna up and leave how is that weak or cowardly?

Y'all should read up on the late legendary co-founder of the Black Panthers Stokeley Carmichael who made the ultimate exodus after getting fed up with how his own adopted country treated him.

Wasn't saying every African felt that way, my fault if it seemed like I was generalizing, but there is a large amount of Africans who share those sentiments.

I never said AA's are weak if they leave, shit I already left lol. All I'm saying is if that's our plan then it should be planned properly and I don't think niggas are fully aware of the customs and culture in Africa, and how much influence Europe still has in Africa.

 

[Ajackson17]

When you have lived in a foreign nation for a few years and can adapt to it. Then I definitely know I can adapt living in Ghana or Nigeria or Benin. It shouldn't be done out of fear and definitely not handle it in ignorance, but you have to have an open mind to be willingly to learn and understand the situation. Learn about the area and how things are practiced over there, cause some things go down in America, doesn't mean it's going to go down there.

Plus, the continent of Africa is still fixing after their colonial rule, some places are moving faster than others and some are haven't budged much. But Africans are really fixing their situation over there, so you have to be considerate of that. I still say all African Americans at least need to visit one of the many nations there to see their land of origin.

 

[Ajackson17]

America is Evil

ALL white people are evil

There is Nothing good or enjoyable about American culture

Nothing good has ever come from the white man

You hate ALL luxuries and material things America affords you

Every moment of your life is miserable

White people have never fought for the Black cause

White women, white men have never been brothers... Financial partners... Loving Wives and husbands to black people

Millions of good hearted, beautiful mixed Americans (part Latino, part White, part Native American etc) are not integral parts of families within the black community

Millions of good hearted, beatiful White, Latin, and Native Americans are not integral parts of families within the black community

NFL,NBA, Baseball, Hip hop, Jazz, Other Great Amercian Music, Great Ass Television, Excellent Movies, Caddilacs, a plethora of Theme Parks, Amazing Locations, Fantastic Cultures, Pervasiveness of cutting edge American Technology, Individuality, Freesom of Religion, Freedom of Speeh, Thousands of Black owned businesses (big and small), Millions of happy, successful Black people, The Arts, word class higher educational opportunities, New York, Chi Town, ATL, Cali, Hot Dogs, Hamburgers, Gorgeous women of all shapes, sizes, colors, and creeds, the inspiration and ability to financially be anything you want to be...

Do not exist

If you enjoy or have benefited from any of the above... You are a coon

Moving to Africa will unequivocally be better for me, my family, and my "race" for now, the foreseeable future, and the future of "my people" ... Whoever that is... Clearly it doesn't include the millions of those that don't fit the spectrum of sub-Saharan phenotypes.

Because family is defined by skin color and all

Um, that is out of hard work, some black americans do need to go to Africa and represent us and bridge a gap there. And again those concepts were already in Africa and in many instances is the birthplace of all that ability to even exist.

 

[Ajackson17]

We don't need coons, uncle toms, lost niggas, lazy/useless niggas coming to the motherland just to fuck everything up and make it worse. They need to stay here and die a proud slave.

In 2015, what makes a Black Person a slave?

Mindset. The mind has always been the birthplace for a slave, never the physical, because if you have to constantly watch someone 24 hours then its best to get rid of them. The best slave is a slave that thinks he is free and has free will to do the will of their master.

 

[Ajackson17]

If Egypt(kmt) was in peace I would live out there.

My uncle lives there and is there now.

 

[Ajackson17]

This is pretty dope right here

 

[Peace_79]

We don't need coons, uncle toms, lost niggas, lazy/useless niggas coming to the motherland just to fuck everything up and make it worse. They need to stay here and die a proud slave.

In 2015, what makes a Black Person a slave?

Mindset. The mind has always been the birthplace for a slave, never the physical, because if you have to constantly watch someone 24 hours then its best to get rid of them. The best slave is a slave that thinks he is free and has free will to do the will of their master.

Exactly.

Can you not liberate your own mind while residing wherever you like?

Perhaps liberate the minds of others and help affect change in a nation where you currently live ... A nation that has afforded you and your family a great many benefits that other nations do not.

Or does the simple act of staying also constitute being a "slave", as another poster so eloquently implied?

 

[Ajackson17]

We don't need coons, uncle toms, lost niggas, lazy/useless niggas coming to the motherland just to fuck everything up and make it worse. They need to stay here and die a proud slave.

In 2015, what makes a Black Person a slave?

Mindset. The mind has always been the birthplace for a slave, never the physical, because if you have to constantly watch someone 24 hours then its best to get rid of them. The best slave is a slave that thinks he is free and has free will to do the will of their master.

Exactly.

Can you not liberate your own mind while residing wherever you like?

Perhaps liberate the minds of others and help affect change in a nation where you currently live ... A nation that has afforded you and your family a great many benefits that other nations don't.

Or does the simple act of staying also constitute being a "slave", as another poster so eloquently implied?

You can stay here and be liberated in the mind, but there is nothing like going over to your ancient homeland to see yourself. You have to go back to the ancestors to realize who you are.

Watch the clip, it may not be west Africa, but it's pretty powerful piece of video.

 

[Shizlansky]

Y'all really underestimating the European presence in west Africa.

And it's a reason why west Africans come here instead of staying. And it's not the dumb ones that's coming here

 

[zzombie]

Black people in America and worldwide will never be totally psychologically happy until at least one African nation is on it's feet and can match world powers