More and more African-Americans wondering if they’d be safer if they left the U.S.

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zzombie;8499780 said:
Black people in America and worldwide will never be totally psychologically happy until at least one African nation is on it's feet and can match world powers

I agree. When they see a economically, socially, stable government, high science and technology revolutionizing the planet, and etc and the people black africans then I will believe it will cause a chain reaction like when Ghana freed themselves from colonialism. The world really is looking at either Ghana or Nigeria to ascend to that level, but it might not be them that do.
 
JokerzWyld;8495452 said:
2stepz_ahead;8494389 said:
JokerzWyld;8494264 said:
I wonder why everybodyhas so much faith that they can work on building a life here, but can't do so abroad in Africa or the Caribbean.

because we are here and already know the culture and the opportunities are there. that is why any place in africa you go the people will say their are opportunities here.... the black community just doesnt take advantage of them.

so if you dont take advantage here...why would you go to another part of the world and think it will be easier.

secondly... i have a question. why do people think africa needs help and like the people there are not capable of taking care of themselves?

thirdly, why are you talking about going to africa with africans that are here working at your job? there is something to be said about that.

im just saying.... leave because thats what you want to do.... build in africa because that what you want to do.

to look at white people and their actions being the motivating factor for you to relocate, says that you can be broken if i apply enough pressure.

Hmmm... I'm trying to decide if I should answer this question or not.

Anyway, the Africans at my job are working here so they can retire early and/or fund their businesses via remittances. They travel home frequently for at least a month at a time, and most have plans to go back home (for good) in the near future. The question about Africans needing help shows a lack of information. I will say this: America's self-proclaimed greatness/prosperity/opportunity have a direct correlation to the abject tyranny/poverty/corruption of the third world.

To your last point, fear or being "broken" aren't necessarily factors in many pan-africanists decisions to go to Africa. Ironically, fear is more of a factor for those who don't want to go. It's natural to fear what you don't know, however, it's weak to let fear stop you. Personally, I'm a realist, and I've done my research. Some think that going to Africa means living in a mud hut in the jungle, but places like Botswana are pretty comfortable. Parts of South Africa have western amenities. Same for Namibia. But I know that people don't believe what I say or type, that's why in my original post in this thread I included going to the Caribbean Islands. Dominica, Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago are all nice and westernized, but they are still culturally distinct and aware of their African ancestry.

But maybe I'm just a daredevil. I've been to many places that most people won't go. I've seen their villages, and I've spoken their languages. Kwaheri Rafiki.

Dominica is pretty poor and T&T is mad violent and now mostly East Indian
 
AggyAF;8500381 said:
JokerzWyld;8495452 said:
2stepz_ahead;8494389 said:
JokerzWyld;8494264 said:
I wonder why everybodyhas so much faith that they can work on building a life here, but can't do so abroad in Africa or the Caribbean.

because we are here and already know the culture and the opportunities are there. that is why any place in africa you go the people will say their are opportunities here.... the black community just doesnt take advantage of them.

so if you dont take advantage here...why would you go to another part of the world and think it will be easier.

secondly... i have a question. why do people think africa needs help and like the people there are not capable of taking care of themselves?

thirdly, why are you talking about going to africa with africans that are here working at your job? there is something to be said about that.

im just saying.... leave because thats what you want to do.... build in africa because that what you want to do.

to look at white people and their actions being the motivating factor for you to relocate, says that you can be broken if i apply enough pressure.

Hmmm... I'm trying to decide if I should answer this question or not.

Anyway, the Africans at my job are working here so they can retire early and/or fund their businesses via remittances. They travel home frequently for at least a month at a time, and most have plans to go back home (for good) in the near future. The question about Africans needing help shows a lack of information. I will say this: America's self-proclaimed greatness/prosperity/opportunity have a direct correlation to the abject tyranny/poverty/corruption of the third world.

To your last point, fear or being "broken" aren't necessarily factors in many pan-africanists decisions to go to Africa. Ironically, fear is more of a factor for those who don't want to go. It's natural to fear what you don't know, however, it's weak to let fear stop you. Personally, I'm a realist, and I've done my research. Some think that going to Africa means living in a mud hut in the jungle, but places like Botswana are pretty comfortable. Parts of South Africa have western amenities. Same for Namibia. But I know that people don't believe what I say or type, that's why in my original post in this thread I included going to the Caribbean Islands. Dominica, Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago are all nice and westernized, but they are still culturally distinct and aware of their African ancestry.

But maybe I'm just a daredevil. I've been to many places that most people won't go. I've seen their villages, and I've spoken their languages. Kwaheri Rafiki.

Dominica is pretty poor and T&T is mad violent and now mostly East Indian

I was just in t&t last month and the population is still about split equally between blacks and east indians, and there's a black prime minister again
 
zzombie;8500388 said:
AggyAF;8500381 said:
JokerzWyld;8495452 said:
2stepz_ahead;8494389 said:
JokerzWyld;8494264 said:
I wonder why everybodyhas so much faith that they can work on building a life here, but can't do so abroad in Africa or the Caribbean.

because we are here and already know the culture and the opportunities are there. that is why any place in africa you go the people will say their are opportunities here.... the black community just doesnt take advantage of them.

so if you dont take advantage here...why would you go to another part of the world and think it will be easier.

secondly... i have a question. why do people think africa needs help and like the people there are not capable of taking care of themselves?

thirdly, why are you talking about going to africa with africans that are here working at your job? there is something to be said about that.

im just saying.... leave because thats what you want to do.... build in africa because that what you want to do.

to look at white people and their actions being the motivating factor for you to relocate, says that you can be broken if i apply enough pressure.

Hmmm... I'm trying to decide if I should answer this question or not.

Anyway, the Africans at my job are working here so they can retire early and/or fund their businesses via remittances. They travel home frequently for at least a month at a time, and most have plans to go back home (for good) in the near future. The question about Africans needing help shows a lack of information. I will say this: America's self-proclaimed greatness/prosperity/opportunity have a direct correlation to the abject tyranny/poverty/corruption of the third world.

To your last point, fear or being "broken" aren't necessarily factors in many pan-africanists decisions to go to Africa. Ironically, fear is more of a factor for those who don't want to go. It's natural to fear what you don't know, however, it's weak to let fear stop you. Personally, I'm a realist, and I've done my research. Some think that going to Africa means living in a mud hut in the jungle, but places like Botswana are pretty comfortable. Parts of South Africa have western amenities. Same for Namibia. But I know that people don't believe what I say or type, that's why in my original post in this thread I included going to the Caribbean Islands. Dominica, Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago are all nice and westernized, but they are still culturally distinct and aware of their African ancestry.

But maybe I'm just a daredevil. I've been to many places that most people won't go. I've seen their villages, and I've spoken their languages. Kwaheri Rafiki.

Dominica is pretty poor and T&T is mad violent and now mostly East Indian

I was just in t&t last month and the population is still about split equally between blacks and east indians, and there's a black prime minister again

I hear theres a gang war invovling Muslims out there
 
LPast;8494493 said:
I'll tell y'all this... There will be a class war in America BEFORE there will be a race war. The powers that be just have the 97% thinking our issues are racial, religious, etc...

The poorest white americans still fair better than the poorest blk Americans...and by a large margin

U think they are going to forfeit their white privilege any time soon for the greater good?

I hope ppl do wake up, but sorry but I have my doubts

 
AggyAF;8500431 said:
zzombie;8500388 said:
AggyAF;8500381 said:
JokerzWyld;8495452 said:
2stepz_ahead;8494389 said:
JokerzWyld;8494264 said:
I wonder why everybodyhas so much faith that they can work on building a life here, but can't do so abroad in Africa or the Caribbean.

because we are here and already know the culture and the opportunities are there. that is why any place in africa you go the people will say their are opportunities here.... the black community just doesnt take advantage of them.

so if you dont take advantage here...why would you go to another part of the world and think it will be easier.

secondly... i have a question. why do people think africa needs help and like the people there are not capable of taking care of themselves?

thirdly, why are you talking about going to africa with africans that are here working at your job? there is something to be said about that.

im just saying.... leave because thats what you want to do.... build in africa because that what you want to do.

to look at white people and their actions being the motivating factor for you to relocate, says that you can be broken if i apply enough pressure.

Hmmm... I'm trying to decide if I should answer this question or not.

Anyway, the Africans at my job are working here so they can retire early and/or fund their businesses via remittances. They travel home frequently for at least a month at a time, and most have plans to go back home (for good) in the near future. The question about Africans needing help shows a lack of information. I will say this: America's self-proclaimed greatness/prosperity/opportunity have a direct correlation to the abject tyranny/poverty/corruption of the third world.

To your last point, fear or being "broken" aren't necessarily factors in many pan-africanists decisions to go to Africa. Ironically, fear is more of a factor for those who don't want to go. It's natural to fear what you don't know, however, it's weak to let fear stop you. Personally, I'm a realist, and I've done my research. Some think that going to Africa means living in a mud hut in the jungle, but places like Botswana are pretty comfortable. Parts of South Africa have western amenities. Same for Namibia. But I know that people don't believe what I say or type, that's why in my original post in this thread I included going to the Caribbean Islands. Dominica, Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago are all nice and westernized, but they are still culturally distinct and aware of their African ancestry.

But maybe I'm just a daredevil. I've been to many places that most people won't go. I've seen their villages, and I've spoken their languages. Kwaheri Rafiki.

Dominica is pretty poor and T&T is mad violent and now mostly East Indian

I was just in t&t last month and the population is still about split equally between blacks and east indians, and there's a black prime minister again

I hear theres a gang war invovling Muslims out there

Yeah in port of Spain but these are mostly black Muslims
 
AggyAF;8500431 said:
zzombie;8500388 said:
AggyAF;8500381 said:
JokerzWyld;8495452 said:
2stepz_ahead;8494389 said:
JokerzWyld;8494264 said:
I wonder why everybodyhas so much faith that they can work on building a life here, but can't do so abroad in Africa or the Caribbean.

because we are here and already know the culture and the opportunities are there. that is why any place in africa you go the people will say their are opportunities here.... the black community just doesnt take advantage of them.

so if you dont take advantage here...why would you go to another part of the world and think it will be easier.

secondly... i have a question. why do people think africa needs help and like the people there are not capable of taking care of themselves?

thirdly, why are you talking about going to africa with africans that are here working at your job? there is something to be said about that.

im just saying.... leave because thats what you want to do.... build in africa because that what you want to do.

to look at white people and their actions being the motivating factor for you to relocate, says that you can be broken if i apply enough pressure.

Hmmm... I'm trying to decide if I should answer this question or not.

Anyway, the Africans at my job are working here so they can retire early and/or fund their businesses via remittances. They travel home frequently for at least a month at a time, and most have plans to go back home (for good) in the near future. The question about Africans needing help shows a lack of information. I will say this: America's self-proclaimed greatness/prosperity/opportunity have a direct correlation to the abject tyranny/poverty/corruption of the third world.

To your last point, fear or being "broken" aren't necessarily factors in many pan-africanists decisions to go to Africa. Ironically, fear is more of a factor for those who don't want to go. It's natural to fear what you don't know, however, it's weak to let fear stop you. Personally, I'm a realist, and I've done my research. Some think that going to Africa means living in a mud hut in the jungle, but places like Botswana are pretty comfortable. Parts of South Africa have western amenities. Same for Namibia. But I know that people don't believe what I say or type, that's why in my original post in this thread I included going to the Caribbean Islands. Dominica, Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago are all nice and westernized, but they are still culturally distinct and aware of their African ancestry.

But maybe I'm just a daredevil. I've been to many places that most people won't go. I've seen their villages, and I've spoken their languages. Kwaheri Rafiki.

Dominica is pretty poor and T&T is mad violent and now mostly East Indian

I was just in t&t last month and the population is still about split equally between blacks and east indians, and there's a black prime minister again

I hear theres a gang war invovling Muslims out there

zzombie;8500548 said:
AggyAF;8500431 said:
zzombie;8500388 said:
AggyAF;8500381 said:
JokerzWyld;8495452 said:
2stepz_ahead;8494389 said:
JokerzWyld;8494264 said:
I wonder why everybodyhas so much faith that they can work on building a life here, but can't do so abroad in Africa or the Caribbean.

because we are here and already know the culture and the opportunities are there. that is why any place in africa you go the people will say their are opportunities here.... the black community just doesnt take advantage of them.

so if you dont take advantage here...why would you go to another part of the world and think it will be easier.

secondly... i have a question. why do people think africa needs help and like the people there are not capable of taking care of themselves?

thirdly, why are you talking about going to africa with africans that are here working at your job? there is something to be said about that.

im just saying.... leave because thats what you want to do.... build in africa because that what you want to do.

to look at white people and their actions being the motivating factor for you to relocate, says that you can be broken if i apply enough pressure.

Hmmm... I'm trying to decide if I should answer this question or not.

Anyway, the Africans at my job are working here so they can retire early and/or fund their businesses via remittances. They travel home frequently for at least a month at a time, and most have plans to go back home (for good) in the near future. The question about Africans needing help shows a lack of information. I will say this: America's self-proclaimed greatness/prosperity/opportunity have a direct correlation to the abject tyranny/poverty/corruption of the third world.

To your last point, fear or being "broken" aren't necessarily factors in many pan-africanists decisions to go to Africa. Ironically, fear is more of a factor for those who don't want to go. It's natural to fear what you don't know, however, it's weak to let fear stop you. Personally, I'm a realist, and I've done my research. Some think that going to Africa means living in a mud hut in the jungle, but places like Botswana are pretty comfortable. Parts of South Africa have western amenities. Same for Namibia. But I know that people don't believe what I say or type, that's why in my original post in this thread I included going to the Caribbean Islands. Dominica, Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago are all nice and westernized, but they are still culturally distinct and aware of their African ancestry.

But maybe I'm just a daredevil. I've been to many places that most people won't go. I've seen their villages, and I've spoken their languages. Kwaheri Rafiki.

Dominica is pretty poor and T&T is mad violent and now mostly East Indian

I was just in t&t last month and the population is still about split equally between blacks and east indians, and there's a black prime minister again

I hear theres a gang war invovling Muslims out there

Yeah in port of Spain but these are mostly black Muslims

Rasta City vs Abu Bakr muslimeen. Laventile and Beetham are dangerous like hell. Pretty much the East West corridor in the north.

My area is decent, deep south in the Borough called point fortin. Very livable. Peeps all work in the Oil Industry down there.
 
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Figo;8500557 said:
AggyAF;8500431 said:
zzombie;8500388 said:
AggyAF;8500381 said:
JokerzWyld;8495452 said:
2stepz_ahead;8494389 said:
JokerzWyld;8494264 said:
I wonder why everybodyhas so much faith that they can work on building a life here, but can't do so abroad in Africa or the Caribbean.

because we are here and already know the culture and the opportunities are there. that is why any place in africa you go the people will say their are opportunities here.... the black community just doesnt take advantage of them.

so if you dont take advantage here...why would you go to another part of the world and think it will be easier.

secondly... i have a question. why do people think africa needs help and like the people there are not capable of taking care of themselves?

thirdly, why are you talking about going to africa with africans that are here working at your job? there is something to be said about that.

im just saying.... leave because thats what you want to do.... build in africa because that what you want to do.

to look at white people and their actions being the motivating factor for you to relocate, says that you can be broken if i apply enough pressure.

Hmmm... I'm trying to decide if I should answer this question or not.

Anyway, the Africans at my job are working here so they can retire early and/or fund their businesses via remittances. They travel home frequently for at least a month at a time, and most have plans to go back home (for good) in the near future. The question about Africans needing help shows a lack of information. I will say this: America's self-proclaimed greatness/prosperity/opportunity have a direct correlation to the abject tyranny/poverty/corruption of the third world.

To your last point, fear or being "broken" aren't necessarily factors in many pan-africanists decisions to go to Africa. Ironically, fear is more of a factor for those who don't want to go. It's natural to fear what you don't know, however, it's weak to let fear stop you. Personally, I'm a realist, and I've done my research. Some think that going to Africa means living in a mud hut in the jungle, but places like Botswana are pretty comfortable. Parts of South Africa have western amenities. Same for Namibia. But I know that people don't believe what I say or type, that's why in my original post in this thread I included going to the Caribbean Islands. Dominica, Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago are all nice and westernized, but they are still culturally distinct and aware of their African ancestry.

But maybe I'm just a daredevil. I've been to many places that most people won't go. I've seen their villages, and I've spoken their languages. Kwaheri Rafiki.

Dominica is pretty poor and T&T is mad violent and now mostly East Indian

I was just in t&t last month and the population is still about split equally between blacks and east indians, and there's a black prime minister again

I hear theres a gang war invovling Muslims out there

zzombie;8500548 said:
AggyAF;8500431 said:
zzombie;8500388 said:
AggyAF;8500381 said:
JokerzWyld;8495452 said:
2stepz_ahead;8494389 said:
JokerzWyld;8494264 said:
I wonder why everybodyhas so much faith that they can work on building a life here, but can't do so abroad in Africa or the Caribbean.

because we are here and already know the culture and the opportunities are there. that is why any place in africa you go the people will say their are opportunities here.... the black community just doesnt take advantage of them.

so if you dont take advantage here...why would you go to another part of the world and think it will be easier.

secondly... i have a question. why do people think africa needs help and like the people there are not capable of taking care of themselves?

thirdly, why are you talking about going to africa with africans that are here working at your job? there is something to be said about that.

im just saying.... leave because thats what you want to do.... build in africa because that what you want to do.

to look at white people and their actions being the motivating factor for you to relocate, says that you can be broken if i apply enough pressure.

Hmmm... I'm trying to decide if I should answer this question or not.

Anyway, the Africans at my job are working here so they can retire early and/or fund their businesses via remittances. They travel home frequently for at least a month at a time, and most have plans to go back home (for good) in the near future. The question about Africans needing help shows a lack of information. I will say this: America's self-proclaimed greatness/prosperity/opportunity have a direct correlation to the abject tyranny/poverty/corruption of the third world.

To your last point, fear or being "broken" aren't necessarily factors in many pan-africanists decisions to go to Africa. Ironically, fear is more of a factor for those who don't want to go. It's natural to fear what you don't know, however, it's weak to let fear stop you. Personally, I'm a realist, and I've done my research. Some think that going to Africa means living in a mud hut in the jungle, but places like Botswana are pretty comfortable. Parts of South Africa have western amenities. Same for Namibia. But I know that people don't believe what I say or type, that's why in my original post in this thread I included going to the Caribbean Islands. Dominica, Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago are all nice and westernized, but they are still culturally distinct and aware of their African ancestry.

But maybe I'm just a daredevil. I've been to many places that most people won't go. I've seen their villages, and I've spoken their languages. Kwaheri Rafiki.

Dominica is pretty poor and T&T is mad violent and now mostly East Indian

I was just in t&t last month and the population is still about split equally between blacks and east indians, and there's a black prime minister again

I hear theres a gang war invovling Muslims out there

Yeah in port of Spain but these are mostly black Muslims

Rasta City vs Abu Bakr muslimeen. Laventile and Beetham are dangerous like hell. Pretty much the East West corridor in the north.

My area is decent, deep south in the Borough called point fortin. Very livable. Peeps all work in the Oil Industry down there.

my cousin is half Trini she was down there this summer with her moms . she said some parts of port of spain were off limits
 
AggyAF;8500854 said:
Figo;8500557 said:
AggyAF;8500431 said:
zzombie;8500388 said:
AggyAF;8500381 said:
JokerzWyld;8495452 said:
2stepz_ahead;8494389 said:
JokerzWyld;8494264 said:
I wonder why everybodyhas so much faith that they can work on building a life here, but can't do so abroad in Africa or the Caribbean.

because we are here and already know the culture and the opportunities are there. that is why any place in africa you go the people will say their are opportunities here.... the black community just doesnt take advantage of them.

so if you dont take advantage here...why would you go to another part of the world and think it will be easier.

secondly... i have a question. why do people think africa needs help and like the people there are not capable of taking care of themselves?

thirdly, why are you talking about going to africa with africans that are here working at your job? there is something to be said about that.

im just saying.... leave because thats what you want to do.... build in africa because that what you want to do.

to look at white people and their actions being the motivating factor for you to relocate, says that you can be broken if i apply enough pressure.

Hmmm... I'm trying to decide if I should answer this question or not.

Anyway, the Africans at my job are working here so they can retire early and/or fund their businesses via remittances. They travel home frequently for at least a month at a time, and most have plans to go back home (for good) in the near future. The question about Africans needing help shows a lack of information. I will say this: America's self-proclaimed greatness/prosperity/opportunity have a direct correlation to the abject tyranny/poverty/corruption of the third world.

To your last point, fear or being "broken" aren't necessarily factors in many pan-africanists decisions to go to Africa. Ironically, fear is more of a factor for those who don't want to go. It's natural to fear what you don't know, however, it's weak to let fear stop you. Personally, I'm a realist, and I've done my research. Some think that going to Africa means living in a mud hut in the jungle, but places like Botswana are pretty comfortable. Parts of South Africa have western amenities. Same for Namibia. But I know that people don't believe what I say or type, that's why in my original post in this thread I included going to the Caribbean Islands. Dominica, Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago are all nice and westernized, but they are still culturally distinct and aware of their African ancestry.

But maybe I'm just a daredevil. I've been to many places that most people won't go. I've seen their villages, and I've spoken their languages. Kwaheri Rafiki.

Dominica is pretty poor and T&T is mad violent and now mostly East Indian

I was just in t&t last month and the population is still about split equally between blacks and east indians, and there's a black prime minister again

I hear theres a gang war invovling Muslims out there

zzombie;8500548 said:
AggyAF;8500431 said:
zzombie;8500388 said:
AggyAF;8500381 said:
JokerzWyld;8495452 said:
2stepz_ahead;8494389 said:
JokerzWyld;8494264 said:
I wonder why everybodyhas so much faith that they can work on building a life here, but can't do so abroad in Africa or the Caribbean.

because we are here and already know the culture and the opportunities are there. that is why any place in africa you go the people will say their are opportunities here.... the black community just doesnt take advantage of them.

so if you dont take advantage here...why would you go to another part of the world and think it will be easier.

secondly... i have a question. why do people think africa needs help and like the people there are not capable of taking care of themselves?

thirdly, why are you talking about going to africa with africans that are here working at your job? there is something to be said about that.

im just saying.... leave because thats what you want to do.... build in africa because that what you want to do.

to look at white people and their actions being the motivating factor for you to relocate, says that you can be broken if i apply enough pressure.

Hmmm... I'm trying to decide if I should answer this question or not.

Anyway, the Africans at my job are working here so they can retire early and/or fund their businesses via remittances. They travel home frequently for at least a month at a time, and most have plans to go back home (for good) in the near future. The question about Africans needing help shows a lack of information. I will say this: America's self-proclaimed greatness/prosperity/opportunity have a direct correlation to the abject tyranny/poverty/corruption of the third world.

To your last point, fear or being "broken" aren't necessarily factors in many pan-africanists decisions to go to Africa. Ironically, fear is more of a factor for those who don't want to go. It's natural to fear what you don't know, however, it's weak to let fear stop you. Personally, I'm a realist, and I've done my research. Some think that going to Africa means living in a mud hut in the jungle, but places like Botswana are pretty comfortable. Parts of South Africa have western amenities. Same for Namibia. But I know that people don't believe what I say or type, that's why in my original post in this thread I included going to the Caribbean Islands. Dominica, Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago are all nice and westernized, but they are still culturally distinct and aware of their African ancestry.

But maybe I'm just a daredevil. I've been to many places that most people won't go. I've seen their villages, and I've spoken their languages. Kwaheri Rafiki.

Dominica is pretty poor and T&T is mad violent and now mostly East Indian

I was just in t&t last month and the population is still about split equally between blacks and east indians, and there's a black prime minister again

I hear theres a gang war invovling Muslims out there

Yeah in port of Spain but these are mostly black Muslims

Rasta City vs Abu Bakr muslimeen. Laventile and Beetham are dangerous like hell. Pretty much the East West corridor in the north.

My area is decent, deep south in the Borough called point fortin. Very livable. Peeps all work in the Oil Industry down there.

my cousin is half Trini she was down there this summer with her moms . she said some parts of port of spain were off limits

Port of Spain is pretty nice. I went there a two years ago. Maybe it's just me.
 
JokerzWyld;8501005 said:
AggyAF;8500854 said:
Figo;8500557 said:
AggyAF;8500431 said:
zzombie;8500388 said:
AggyAF;8500381 said:
JokerzWyld;8495452 said:
2stepz_ahead;8494389 said:
JokerzWyld;8494264 said:
I wonder why everybodyhas so much faith that they can work on building a life here, but can't do so abroad in Africa or the Caribbean.

because we are here and already know the culture and the opportunities are there. that is why any place in africa you go the people will say their are opportunities here.... the black community just doesnt take advantage of them.

so if you dont take advantage here...why would you go to another part of the world and think it will be easier.

secondly... i have a question. why do people think africa needs help and like the people there are not capable of taking care of themselves?

thirdly, why are you talking about going to africa with africans that are here working at your job? there is something to be said about that.

im just saying.... leave because thats what you want to do.... build in africa because that what you want to do.

to look at white people and their actions being the motivating factor for you to relocate, says that you can be broken if i apply enough pressure.

Hmmm... I'm trying to decide if I should answer this question or not.

Anyway, the Africans at my job are working here so they can retire early and/or fund their businesses via remittances. They travel home frequently for at least a month at a time, and most have plans to go back home (for good) in the near future. The question about Africans needing help shows a lack of information. I will say this: America's self-proclaimed greatness/prosperity/opportunity have a direct correlation to the abject tyranny/poverty/corruption of the third world.

To your last point, fear or being "broken" aren't necessarily factors in many pan-africanists decisions to go to Africa. Ironically, fear is more of a factor for those who don't want to go. It's natural to fear what you don't know, however, it's weak to let fear stop you. Personally, I'm a realist, and I've done my research. Some think that going to Africa means living in a mud hut in the jungle, but places like Botswana are pretty comfortable. Parts of South Africa have western amenities. Same for Namibia. But I know that people don't believe what I say or type, that's why in my original post in this thread I included going to the Caribbean Islands. Dominica, Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago are all nice and westernized, but they are still culturally distinct and aware of their African ancestry.

But maybe I'm just a daredevil. I've been to many places that most people won't go. I've seen their villages, and I've spoken their languages. Kwaheri Rafiki.

Dominica is pretty poor and T&T is mad violent and now mostly East Indian

I was just in t&t last month and the population is still about split equally between blacks and east indians, and there's a black prime minister again

I hear theres a gang war invovling Muslims out there

zzombie;8500548 said:
AggyAF;8500431 said:
zzombie;8500388 said:
AggyAF;8500381 said:
JokerzWyld;8495452 said:
2stepz_ahead;8494389 said:
JokerzWyld;8494264 said:
I wonder why everybodyhas so much faith that they can work on building a life here, but can't do so abroad in Africa or the Caribbean.

because we are here and already know the culture and the opportunities are there. that is why any place in africa you go the people will say their are opportunities here.... the black community just doesnt take advantage of them.

so if you dont take advantage here...why would you go to another part of the world and think it will be easier.

secondly... i have a question. why do people think africa needs help and like the people there are not capable of taking care of themselves?

thirdly, why are you talking about going to africa with africans that are here working at your job? there is something to be said about that.

im just saying.... leave because thats what you want to do.... build in africa because that what you want to do.

to look at white people and their actions being the motivating factor for you to relocate, says that you can be broken if i apply enough pressure.

Hmmm... I'm trying to decide if I should answer this question or not.

Anyway, the Africans at my job are working here so they can retire early and/or fund their businesses via remittances. They travel home frequently for at least a month at a time, and most have plans to go back home (for good) in the near future. The question about Africans needing help shows a lack of information. I will say this: America's self-proclaimed greatness/prosperity/opportunity have a direct correlation to the abject tyranny/poverty/corruption of the third world.

To your last point, fear or being "broken" aren't necessarily factors in many pan-africanists decisions to go to Africa. Ironically, fear is more of a factor for those who don't want to go. It's natural to fear what you don't know, however, it's weak to let fear stop you. Personally, I'm a realist, and I've done my research. Some think that going to Africa means living in a mud hut in the jungle, but places like Botswana are pretty comfortable. Parts of South Africa have western amenities. Same for Namibia. But I know that people don't believe what I say or type, that's why in my original post in this thread I included going to the Caribbean Islands. Dominica, Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago are all nice and westernized, but they are still culturally distinct and aware of their African ancestry.

But maybe I'm just a daredevil. I've been to many places that most people won't go. I've seen their villages, and I've spoken their languages. Kwaheri Rafiki.

Dominica is pretty poor and T&T is mad violent and now mostly East Indian

I was just in t&t last month and the population is still about split equally between blacks and east indians, and there's a black prime minister again

I hear theres a gang war invovling Muslims out there

Yeah in port of Spain but these are mostly black Muslims

Rasta City vs Abu Bakr muslimeen. Laventile and Beetham are dangerous like hell. Pretty much the East West corridor in the north.

My area is decent, deep south in the Borough called point fortin. Very livable. Peeps all work in the Oil Industry down there.

my cousin is half Trini she was down there this summer with her moms . she said some parts of port of spain were off limits

Port of Spain is pretty nice. I went there a two years ago. Maybe it's just me.

are u Trini? it might be different for Trini vs foreigners
 
AggyAF;8500854 said:
Figo;8500557 said:
AggyAF;8500431 said:
zzombie;8500388 said:
AggyAF;8500381 said:
JokerzWyld;8495452 said:
2stepz_ahead;8494389 said:
JokerzWyld;8494264 said:
I wonder why everybodyhas so much faith that they can work on building a life here, but can't do so abroad in Africa or the Caribbean.

because we are here and already know the culture and the opportunities are there. that is why any place in africa you go the people will say their are opportunities here.... the black community just doesnt take advantage of them.

so if you dont take advantage here...why would you go to another part of the world and think it will be easier.

secondly... i have a question. why do people think africa needs help and like the people there are not capable of taking care of themselves?

thirdly, why are you talking about going to africa with africans that are here working at your job? there is something to be said about that.

im just saying.... leave because thats what you want to do.... build in africa because that what you want to do.

to look at white people and their actions being the motivating factor for you to relocate, says that you can be broken if i apply enough pressure.

Hmmm... I'm trying to decide if I should answer this question or not.

Anyway, the Africans at my job are working here so they can retire early and/or fund their businesses via remittances. They travel home frequently for at least a month at a time, and most have plans to go back home (for good) in the near future. The question about Africans needing help shows a lack of information. I will say this: America's self-proclaimed greatness/prosperity/opportunity have a direct correlation to the abject tyranny/poverty/corruption of the third world.

To your last point, fear or being "broken" aren't necessarily factors in many pan-africanists decisions to go to Africa. Ironically, fear is more of a factor for those who don't want to go. It's natural to fear what you don't know, however, it's weak to let fear stop you. Personally, I'm a realist, and I've done my research. Some think that going to Africa means living in a mud hut in the jungle, but places like Botswana are pretty comfortable. Parts of South Africa have western amenities. Same for Namibia. But I know that people don't believe what I say or type, that's why in my original post in this thread I included going to the Caribbean Islands. Dominica, Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago are all nice and westernized, but they are still culturally distinct and aware of their African ancestry.

But maybe I'm just a daredevil. I've been to many places that most people won't go. I've seen their villages, and I've spoken their languages. Kwaheri Rafiki.

Dominica is pretty poor and T&T is mad violent and now mostly East Indian

I was just in t&t last month and the population is still about split equally between blacks and east indians, and there's a black prime minister again

I hear theres a gang war invovling Muslims out there

zzombie;8500548 said:
AggyAF;8500431 said:
zzombie;8500388 said:
AggyAF;8500381 said:
JokerzWyld;8495452 said:
2stepz_ahead;8494389 said:
JokerzWyld;8494264 said:
I wonder why everybodyhas so much faith that they can work on building a life here, but can't do so abroad in Africa or the Caribbean.

because we are here and already know the culture and the opportunities are there. that is why any place in africa you go the people will say their are opportunities here.... the black community just doesnt take advantage of them.

so if you dont take advantage here...why would you go to another part of the world and think it will be easier.

secondly... i have a question. why do people think africa needs help and like the people there are not capable of taking care of themselves?

thirdly, why are you talking about going to africa with africans that are here working at your job? there is something to be said about that.

im just saying.... leave because thats what you want to do.... build in africa because that what you want to do.

to look at white people and their actions being the motivating factor for you to relocate, says that you can be broken if i apply enough pressure.

Hmmm... I'm trying to decide if I should answer this question or not.

Anyway, the Africans at my job are working here so they can retire early and/or fund their businesses via remittances. They travel home frequently for at least a month at a time, and most have plans to go back home (for good) in the near future. The question about Africans needing help shows a lack of information. I will say this: America's self-proclaimed greatness/prosperity/opportunity have a direct correlation to the abject tyranny/poverty/corruption of the third world.

To your last point, fear or being "broken" aren't necessarily factors in many pan-africanists decisions to go to Africa. Ironically, fear is more of a factor for those who don't want to go. It's natural to fear what you don't know, however, it's weak to let fear stop you. Personally, I'm a realist, and I've done my research. Some think that going to Africa means living in a mud hut in the jungle, but places like Botswana are pretty comfortable. Parts of South Africa have western amenities. Same for Namibia. But I know that people don't believe what I say or type, that's why in my original post in this thread I included going to the Caribbean Islands. Dominica, Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago are all nice and westernized, but they are still culturally distinct and aware of their African ancestry.

But maybe I'm just a daredevil. I've been to many places that most people won't go. I've seen their villages, and I've spoken their languages. Kwaheri Rafiki.

Dominica is pretty poor and T&T is mad violent and now mostly East Indian

I was just in t&t last month and the population is still about split equally between blacks and east indians, and there's a black prime minister again

I hear theres a gang war invovling Muslims out there

Yeah in port of Spain but these are mostly black Muslims

Rasta City vs Abu Bakr muslimeen. Laventile and Beetham are dangerous like hell. Pretty much the East West corridor in the north.

My area is decent, deep south in the Borough called point fortin. Very livable. Peeps all work in the Oil Industry down there.

my cousin is half Trini she was down there this summer with her moms . she said some parts of port of spain were off limits

I use to visit port of spain regularly, go to football games at the Hasley Crawford stadium for Inter Col Football games for secondary schools every year. Before i finish senior school there, Port of Spain was normal.

Your cousin right tho. Its more-so the gangs from laventile/morvant/belmont/diego martin/cocorite area, and the drug game is rampant, coming through the port.

The Syrians run trini @the top. A top lawyer got assassinate earlier this year. But Trinidad is not only about Port of Spain. A lot of fresh water Yankees think we from the south don't have resources.

You visit my area an you will witness all the Oil and Gas companies and a Liquefied Natural Gas plant, a Asphalt Lake, Mud Volcanoes etc etc. And then there is still San Fernando, Penal, Fyzabad, Point a Pierre.

I am going home in May for borough day. Anyone of alyuh that aint crazy can come an experience the real trini vibes. Its actually a blessings when northerners stay the fuck away from us in the south because trouble follows them.

 
AggyAF;8501053 said:
JokerzWyld;8501005 said:
AggyAF;8500854 said:
Figo;8500557 said:
AggyAF;8500431 said:
zzombie;8500388 said:
AggyAF;8500381 said:
JokerzWyld;8495452 said:
2stepz_ahead;8494389 said:
JokerzWyld;8494264 said:
I wonder why everybodyhas so much faith that they can work on building a life here, but can't do so abroad in Africa or the Caribbean.

because we are here and already know the culture and the opportunities are there. that is why any place in africa you go the people will say their are opportunities here.... the black community just doesnt take advantage of them.

so if you dont take advantage here...why would you go to another part of the world and think it will be easier.

secondly... i have a question. why do people think africa needs help and like the people there are not capable of taking care of themselves?

thirdly, why are you talking about going to africa with africans that are here working at your job? there is something to be said about that.

im just saying.... leave because thats what you want to do.... build in africa because that what you want to do.

to look at white people and their actions being the motivating factor for you to relocate, says that you can be broken if i apply enough pressure.

Hmmm... I'm trying to decide if I should answer this question or not.

Anyway, the Africans at my job are working here so they can retire early and/or fund their businesses via remittances. They travel home frequently for at least a month at a time, and most have plans to go back home (for good) in the near future. The question about Africans needing help shows a lack of information. I will say this: America's self-proclaimed greatness/prosperity/opportunity have a direct correlation to the abject tyranny/poverty/corruption of the third world.

To your last point, fear or being "broken" aren't necessarily factors in many pan-africanists decisions to go to Africa. Ironically, fear is more of a factor for those who don't want to go. It's natural to fear what you don't know, however, it's weak to let fear stop you. Personally, I'm a realist, and I've done my research. Some think that going to Africa means living in a mud hut in the jungle, but places like Botswana are pretty comfortable. Parts of South Africa have western amenities. Same for Namibia. But I know that people don't believe what I say or type, that's why in my original post in this thread I included going to the Caribbean Islands. Dominica, Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago are all nice and westernized, but they are still culturally distinct and aware of their African ancestry.

But maybe I'm just a daredevil. I've been to many places that most people won't go. I've seen their villages, and I've spoken their languages. Kwaheri Rafiki.

Dominica is pretty poor and T&T is mad violent and now mostly East Indian

I was just in t&t last month and the population is still about split equally between blacks and east indians, and there's a black prime minister again

I hear theres a gang war invovling Muslims out there

zzombie;8500548 said:
AggyAF;8500431 said:
zzombie;8500388 said:
AggyAF;8500381 said:
JokerzWyld;8495452 said:
2stepz_ahead;8494389 said:
JokerzWyld;8494264 said:
I wonder why everybodyhas so much faith that they can work on building a life here, but can't do so abroad in Africa or the Caribbean.

because we are here and already know the culture and the opportunities are there. that is why any place in africa you go the people will say their are opportunities here.... the black community just doesnt take advantage of them.

so if you dont take advantage here...why would you go to another part of the world and think it will be easier.

secondly... i have a question. why do people think africa needs help and like the people there are not capable of taking care of themselves?

thirdly, why are you talking about going to africa with africans that are here working at your job? there is something to be said about that.

im just saying.... leave because thats what you want to do.... build in africa because that what you want to do.

to look at white people and their actions being the motivating factor for you to relocate, says that you can be broken if i apply enough pressure.

Hmmm... I'm trying to decide if I should answer this question or not.

Anyway, the Africans at my job are working here so they can retire early and/or fund their businesses via remittances. They travel home frequently for at least a month at a time, and most have plans to go back home (for good) in the near future. The question about Africans needing help shows a lack of information. I will say this: America's self-proclaimed greatness/prosperity/opportunity have a direct correlation to the abject tyranny/poverty/corruption of the third world.

To your last point, fear or being "broken" aren't necessarily factors in many pan-africanists decisions to go to Africa. Ironically, fear is more of a factor for those who don't want to go. It's natural to fear what you don't know, however, it's weak to let fear stop you. Personally, I'm a realist, and I've done my research. Some think that going to Africa means living in a mud hut in the jungle, but places like Botswana are pretty comfortable. Parts of South Africa have western amenities. Same for Namibia. But I know that people don't believe what I say or type, that's why in my original post in this thread I included going to the Caribbean Islands. Dominica, Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago are all nice and westernized, but they are still culturally distinct and aware of their African ancestry.

But maybe I'm just a daredevil. I've been to many places that most people won't go. I've seen their villages, and I've spoken their languages. Kwaheri Rafiki.

Dominica is pretty poor and T&T is mad violent and now mostly East Indian

I was just in t&t last month and the population is still about split equally between blacks and east indians, and there's a black prime minister again

I hear theres a gang war invovling Muslims out there

Yeah in port of Spain but these are mostly black Muslims

Rasta City vs Abu Bakr muslimeen. Laventile and Beetham are dangerous like hell. Pretty much the East West corridor in the north.

My area is decent, deep south in the Borough called point fortin. Very livable. Peeps all work in the Oil Industry down there.

my cousin is half Trini she was down there this summer with her moms . she said some parts of port of spain were off limits

Port of Spain is pretty nice. I went there a two years ago. Maybe it's just me.

are u Trini? it might be different for Trini vs foreigners

I'm from the states. I just do shit though. I walked through some rough parts of Port Au Prince as well. IDK people are people to me, most don't want trouble and neither do I. blending in >>>> standing out, that's rule no. 1 to safe travel.
 
Ajackson17;8499463 said:
I still say all African Americans at least need to visit one of the many nations there to see their land of origin.

359025-obama-and-grandma-twitter.jpg


SarahBarack.jpg


Well we all know how he turned out..

I'm spending my Christmas holidays in Nigeria anyways
 
rip.dilla;8502626 said:
Ajackson17;8499463 said:
I still say all African Americans at least need to visit one of the many nations there to see their land of origin.

359025-obama-and-grandma-twitter.jpg


SarahBarack.jpg


Well we all know how he turned out..

I'm spending my Christmas holidays in Nigeria anyways

Many don't know their land of origin.
 
Shizlansky;8502637 said:
rip.dilla;8502626 said:
Ajackson17;8499463 said:
I still say all African Americans at least need to visit one of the many nations there to see their land of origin.

359025-obama-and-grandma-twitter.jpg


SarahBarack.jpg


Well we all know how he turned out..

I'm spending my Christmas holidays in Nigeria anyways

Many don't know their land of origin.

If American Whites can trace their European ancestry (I read about it all the time) why can't American Blacks?
 

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