Marine goes in on CA senator over her proposed ban on assault weapons

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rage;5329663 said:
zombie;5329585 said:
rage;5329539 said:
zombie;5329511 said:
rage;5329495 said:
zombie;5329381 said:
rage;5329168 said:
zombie;5329154 said:
The american public should always have access to these kinds of weapons they are needed they give us the potential to form rebel movements should the government ever become a dictatorship.

BWAHAHHAHAHAHHA!!! How fucking delusional are you??? Honestly...what are these weapons going to do vs this?

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I swear you guys will swallow just about any stupid argument no matter how idiotic and how outdated it is.

Those things don't mean anything people win wars not machines. It is the willingness to fight and die that keeps freedom alive not drones. Cowards and fools give up there weapons a superior military force can be destroyed by an inferior one it has happened time and time again. Hell that's how america came into being in the first place. In guerrilla warfare those weapons would be much less effective look at iraq we did not really win that war and we are not really wining afganistan. America is not your friend your views on the world we live in are very naive and lack historical precedent the sad thing is you say these things with such conviction. What would you prefer dying with a ak in your hand or being lead to the slaughter or slavery by a government gone wrong. keep in mind it's not just about this generation but those yet to come. 50 years from now america may degenerate into a dictatorship, and our grandsons will need guns.

So then why do you need AR-15s?? Why can't you use Rifles and handguns??

We should have access to all of them all kinds of guns should be able to be bought by the public and a free people we will use rifles and handguns if needed.

Why??? You JUST said people win wars not machines. So WHY do you need machines of mass murder??

We may need to mass murder certain people, people who in the future may try and take away our freedom. Ultimately it is people who win wars but the struggle is made easier when you are armed correctly and

because we want them it's as simple as that.


With or with out these weapons in the scenerio i am talking about people will fight but they would be foolish to allow some their most powerful weapons to be taken away.

1) So while you're waiting for the plot of The Postman to take place you have no problem with the number of mass murders the likes of which NO OTHER CIVILIZED country experiences taking place. You have no problem living in a country where someone can walk into a walmart buy an assault rifle with 60-100 bullets then walk into a mall, school, university, daycare, cinema, library, condominium, stadium, arena and kill anywhere between 25 to 50 people? Right??

2) You also think that "It will be made easier if your armed correctly" against the most powerful army in the history of the world. You feel that having access to assault rifles will make it "easier" to take on

679 Drones

3000+ Fighter planes

9000+ Tanks

8000+ Artillery batteries

3500+ Cruise missiles

etc etc etc etc

I'm done responding to you...shit is dumb as fuck.

The simple answer to you is yes. I would rather have ten sandy hooks than let the government take away my right to own whatever I want. The most powerful military in the world has been beaten before and can be beaten again. A true civil war or rebellion in the modern usa would destroy it and in that case the rebels would win anyway. Real men are not scared of their government.
 
Black_Samson;5329694 said:
rage;5329674 said:
Black_Samson;5329620 said:
rage;5329537 said:
Black_Samson;5329498 said:
so if i have a .22 plinker that sorta looks like an ar-15 does that mean its an ar-15?

you think they gon take the time to look it over?

come on son...

Did you seriously just type this stupid shit out?? Do you seriously not know the difference between an assault rifle and a rifle??

you tell me the difference.

them vague ass graphs lol...

Assault rifles carry far more ammunition that a hunting rifle, assault rifles have a higher fire rate than a shotgun, assault rifles can be modified to go from semi-auto to full auto VERY EASILY.

"vague ass graphs" yeah I can see how math, stats, and numbers could be difficult for you to comprehend.

you are clueless just as i figured.

just reciting some other person's bullshit.

this shit is ridiculous.

none of you really have a clue do you?

just talking just to be talking...

ok...

i should have known you were clueless after you tried to disregard plinkers.

do some fucking research. attacking guns cause they fucking look scary.

So another post with nothing of value. No answers to my question...nothing. Attacking guns because they "look" scary? No dumbass attacking guns that have the CAPABILITY of KILLING 100s of people within a matter of minutes you fucking clown.
 
zombie;5329832 said:
rage;5329663 said:
zombie;5329585 said:
rage;5329539 said:
zombie;5329511 said:
rage;5329495 said:
zombie;5329381 said:
rage;5329168 said:
zombie;5329154 said:
The american public should always have access to these kinds of weapons they are needed they give us the potential to form rebel movements should the government ever become a dictatorship.

BWAHAHHAHAHAHHA!!! How fucking delusional are you??? Honestly...what are these weapons going to do vs this?

predator-firing-missile4.jpg


F-22%20Raptor%20test%20firing%20a%20sidewinder%20missile%20just%20out%20of%20its%20internal%20weapons%20bay.jpg


m777_6.jpg


I swear you guys will swallow just about any stupid argument no matter how idiotic and how outdated it is.

Those things don't mean anything people win wars not machines. It is the willingness to fight and die that keeps freedom alive not drones. Cowards and fools give up there weapons a superior military force can be destroyed by an inferior one it has happened time and time again. Hell that's how america came into being in the first place. In guerrilla warfare those weapons would be much less effective look at iraq we did not really win that war and we are not really wining afganistan. America is not your friend your views on the world we live in are very naive and lack historical precedent the sad thing is you say these things with such conviction. What would you prefer dying with a ak in your hand or being lead to the slaughter or slavery by a government gone wrong. keep in mind it's not just about this generation but those yet to come. 50 years from now america may degenerate into a dictatorship, and our grandsons will need guns.

So then why do you need AR-15s?? Why can't you use Rifles and handguns??

We should have access to all of them all kinds of guns should be able to be bought by the public and a free people we will use rifles and handguns if needed.

Why??? You JUST said people win wars not machines. So WHY do you need machines of mass murder??

We may need to mass murder certain people, people who in the future may try and take away our freedom. Ultimately it is people who win wars but the struggle is made easier when you are armed correctly and

because we want them it's as simple as that.


With or with out these weapons in the scenerio i am talking about people will fight but they would be foolish to allow some their most powerful weapons to be taken away.

1) So while you're waiting for the plot of The Postman to take place you have no problem with the number of mass murders the likes of which NO OTHER CIVILIZED country experiences taking place. You have no problem living in a country where someone can walk into a walmart buy an assault rifle with 60-100 bullets then walk into a mall, school, university, daycare, cinema, library, condominium, stadium, arena and kill anywhere between 25 to 50 people? Right??

2) You also think that "It will be made easier if your armed correctly" against the most powerful army in the history of the world. You feel that having access to assault rifles will make it "easier" to take on

679 Drones

3000+ Fighter planes

9000+ Tanks

8000+ Artillery batteries

3500+ Cruise missiles

etc etc etc etc

I'm done responding to you...shit is dumb as fuck.

The simple answer to you is yes. I would rather have ten sandy hooks than let the government take away my right to own whatever I want. The most powerful military in the world has been beaten before and can be beaten again. A true civil war or rebellion in the modern usa would destroy it and in that case the rebels would win anyway. Real men are not scared of their government.

You you are a psycho. You want to know the type of person that should never have access to any type of weapon...look in the mirror. You would rather see 260 kids killed (by someone exactly like you) than have the ability to accomplish something thats impossible and has never happened before. I hope your pschyotic murder mongering ass gets put on a watch list...I hope they dont let you around children.

Real men are not scared of their government

Dumbass every single post of yours has been about being shit scared of the government.
 
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rage;5329922 said:
zombie;5329832 said:
rage;5329663 said:
zombie;5329585 said:
rage;5329539 said:
zombie;5329511 said:
rage;5329495 said:
zombie;5329381 said:
rage;5329168 said:
zombie;5329154 said:
The american public should always have access to these kinds of weapons they are needed they give us the potential to form rebel movements should the government ever become a dictatorship.

BWAHAHHAHAHAHHA!!! How fucking delusional are you??? Honestly...what are these weapons going to do vs this?

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I swear you guys will swallow just about any stupid argument no matter how idiotic and how outdated it is.

Those things don't mean anything people win wars not machines. It is the willingness to fight and die that keeps freedom alive not drones. Cowards and fools give up there weapons a superior military force can be destroyed by an inferior one it has happened time and time again. Hell that's how america came into being in the first place. In guerrilla warfare those weapons would be much less effective look at iraq we did not really win that war and we are not really wining afganistan. America is not your friend your views on the world we live in are very naive and lack historical precedent the sad thing is you say these things with such conviction. What would you prefer dying with a ak in your hand or being lead to the slaughter or slavery by a government gone wrong. keep in mind it's not just about this generation but those yet to come. 50 years from now america may degenerate into a dictatorship, and our grandsons will need guns.

So then why do you need AR-15s?? Why can't you use Rifles and handguns??

We should have access to all of them all kinds of guns should be able to be bought by the public and a free people we will use rifles and handguns if needed.

Why??? You JUST said people win wars not machines. So WHY do you need machines of mass murder??

We may need to mass murder certain people, people who in the future may try and take away our freedom. Ultimately it is people who win wars but the struggle is made easier when you are armed correctly and

because we want them it's as simple as that.


With or with out these weapons in the scenerio i am talking about people will fight but they would be foolish to allow some their most powerful weapons to be taken away.

1) So while you're waiting for the plot of The Postman to take place you have no problem with the number of mass murders the likes of which NO OTHER CIVILIZED country experiences taking place. You have no problem living in a country where someone can walk into a walmart buy an assault rifle with 60-100 bullets then walk into a mall, school, university, daycare, cinema, library, condominium, stadium, arena and kill anywhere between 25 to 50 people? Right??

2) You also think that "It will be made easier if your armed correctly" against the most powerful army in the history of the world. You feel that having access to assault rifles will make it "easier" to take on

679 Drones

3000+ Fighter planes

9000+ Tanks

8000+ Artillery batteries

3500+ Cruise missiles

etc etc etc etc

I'm done responding to you...shit is dumb as fuck.

The simple answer to you is yes. I would rather have ten sandy hooks than let the government take away my right to own whatever I want. The most powerful military in the world has been beaten before and can be beaten again. A true civil war or rebellion in the modern usa would destroy it and in that case the rebels would win anyway. Real men are not scared of their government.

You you are a psycho. You want to know the type of person that should never have access to any type of weapon...look in the mirror. You would rather see 260 kids killed (by someone exactly like you) than have the ability to accomplish something thats impossible and has never happened before. I hope your pschyotic murder mongering ass gets put on a watch list...I hope they dont let you around children.

Real men are not scared of their government

Dumbass every single post of yours has been about being shit scared of the government.

Real men are not scared to fight the governement. If you are scared stay in the house. The death of kids is a sad thing but it is a risk I am willing to take. I don't even own a gun but I support the right to get anyone you want for any reason the overthrow of governments by their people using violence has happened before and can again. I may be a psycho to you but you are a fool and a coward to me
 
"You will not tell me that I must register my semi-automatic AR-15 because of the actions of some evil man.

I will not be disarmed to suit the fear that has

been established by the media and your

misinformation campaign against the American

public."

Confused man, man is confused. Registration and disarmament are not the same thing.
 
zombie;5329832 said:
rage;5329663 said:
zombie;5329585 said:
rage;5329539 said:
zombie;5329511 said:
rage;5329495 said:
zombie;5329381 said:
rage;5329168 said:
zombie;5329154 said:
The american public should always have access to these kinds of weapons they are needed they give us the potential to form rebel movements should the government ever become a dictatorship.

BWAHAHHAHAHAHHA!!! How fucking delusional are you??? Honestly...what are these weapons going to do vs this?

predator-firing-missile4.jpg


F-22%20Raptor%20test%20firing%20a%20sidewinder%20missile%20just%20out%20of%20its%20internal%20weapons%20bay.jpg


m777_6.jpg


I swear you guys will swallow just about any stupid argument no matter how idiotic and how outdated it is.

Those things don't mean anything people win wars not machines. It is the willingness to fight and die that keeps freedom alive not drones. Cowards and fools give up there weapons a superior military force can be destroyed by an inferior one it has happened time and time again. Hell that's how america came into being in the first place. In guerrilla warfare those weapons would be much less effective look at iraq we did not really win that war and we are not really wining afganistan. America is not your friend your views on the world we live in are very naive and lack historical precedent the sad thing is you say these things with such conviction. What would you prefer dying with a ak in your hand or being lead to the slaughter or slavery by a government gone wrong. keep in mind it's not just about this generation but those yet to come. 50 years from now america may degenerate into a dictatorship, and our grandsons will need guns.

So then why do you need AR-15s?? Why can't you use Rifles and handguns??

We should have access to all of them all kinds of guns should be able to be bought by the public and a free people we will use rifles and handguns if needed.

Why??? You JUST said people win wars not machines. So WHY do you need machines of mass murder??

We may need to mass murder certain people, people who in the future may try and take away our freedom. Ultimately it is people who win wars but the struggle is made easier when you are armed correctly and

because we want them it's as simple as that.


With or with out these weapons in the scenerio i am talking about people will fight but they would be foolish to allow some their most powerful weapons to be taken away.

1) So while you're waiting for the plot of The Postman to take place you have no problem with the number of mass murders the likes of which NO OTHER CIVILIZED country experiences taking place. You have no problem living in a country where someone can walk into a walmart buy an assault rifle with 60-100 bullets then walk into a mall, school, university, daycare, cinema, library, condominium, stadium, arena and kill anywhere between 25 to 50 people? Right??

2) You also think that "It will be made easier if your armed correctly" against the most powerful army in the history of the world. You feel that having access to assault rifles will make it "easier" to take on

679 Drones

3000+ Fighter planes

9000+ Tanks

8000+ Artillery batteries

3500+ Cruise missiles

etc etc etc etc

I'm done responding to you...shit is dumb as fuck.

The simple answer to you is yes. I would rather have ten sandy hooks than let the government take away my right to own whatever I want. The most powerful military in the world has been beaten before and can be beaten again. A true civil war or rebellion in the modern usa would destroy it and in that case the rebels would win anyway. Real men are not scared of their government.

That doesn't really help your argument. In fact I say it hurts it.
 
zombie;5329381 said:
rage;5329168 said:
zombie;5329154 said:
The american public should always have access to these kinds of weapons they are needed they give us the potential to form rebel movements should the government ever become a dictatorship.

BWAHAHHAHAHAHHA!!! How fucking delusional are you??? Honestly...what are these weapons going to do vs this?

predator-firing-missile4.jpg


F-22%20Raptor%20test%20firing%20a%20sidewinder%20missile%20just%20out%20of%20its%20internal%20weapons%20bay.jpg


m777_6.jpg


I swear you guys will swallow just about any stupid argument no matter how idiotic and how outdated it is.

Those things don't mean anything people win wars not machines. It is the willingness to fight and die that keeps freedom alive not drones. Cowards and fools give up there weapons a superior military force can be destroyed by an inferior one it has happened time and time again. Hell that's how america came into being in the first place. In guerrilla warfare those weapons would be much less effective look at iraq we did not really win that war and we are not really wining afganistan. America is not your friend your views on the world we live in are very naive and lack historical precedent the sad thing is you say these things with such conviction. What would you prefer dying with a ak in your hand or being lead to the slaughter or slavery by a government gone wrong. keep in mind it's not just about this generation but those yet to come. 50 years from now america may degenerate into a dictatorship, and our grandsons will need guns.

Co-sign 100%, except we already have lost the war in Afghanistan. We control only about 30% of the country, if not much less. Rage seems a little naive in how powerful America's military is, it's not as invincible as he thinks it is....
 
rage;5328916 said:
Absofuckinglutely...every single assault rifle, every single extended clip, drums, armor piercing bullet should be taken away. Nobody aside from the military and law enforcement should have access to WEAPONS OF MASS MURDER. That's is all an assault rifle is....a weapon of mass murder.
i've got a safe full of them myself that have never killed anyone. so how exactly are they weapons of mass murder? not to mention the millions of them out there that aren't being used for any sorts of crime?

also, there's the whole debate over this terminology: you're most assuredly calling a lot of normal magazines "extended clips," i can't even begin to imagine what you think "armor piercing bullets" actually are, and hell, the definition of "assault weapon" remains oh so fluid as is convenient.

rage;5328916 said:
He is a psycho because he feels no need for even registering a weapon of mass murder, he is a psycho because he feels he has some innate right to have access to weapons of mass murder.
no, he's a psycho because you disagree with him. you clearly think that a civilian such as a police officer can handle these firearms without committing MASS MURDERS, yet someone who's not issued a fancy uniform cannot?

but hey, i can't imagine why a guy who legally owns a firearm would take issue with being told he needs to register it when he's done nothing wrong, but instead, finds himself labeled a psycho. and we can leave the property rights and privacy issues inherent in many of these aside, i suppose; but remember, kids: Feinstein's proposed registration would not simply make this man register a rifle, but would make him submit fingerprints, a photograph and $200 tax per rifle, and would mandate confiscation of said rifle were he to die.
 
rage;5329034 said:
So you think its cool for someone to walk into a Walmart buy a semi-automatic assault rifle like this
well, i would not recommend they shop at Wal-Mart, but who cares?

rage;5329034 said:
100 clip magazine
100 clip magazine?

soulbrother;5329262 said:
Can anyone of you gun lovers give one good reason as to why you need an assault rifle?....A hand gun will do just fine to protect your home
why should i have to explain why i need it?

Black_Samson;5329416 said:
instead of talking shit... folk should be posting stats.

stats that say yes, this many mass killing happened with AR's.

stats that say most gun violence is done with AR's.
well, considering that they don't have stats that say these things... hmmm

 
nujerz84;5329439 said:
No vaild reason why anyone not in the miltary or law enforcement (even they should be restricted) to have an AR-15 or M-16 in there house...
well, i'd say there's no valid reason to act like an AR-15 and an M-16 are the same thing.

Black_Samson;5329474 said:
you wanna talk a magazine ban, fine... but come on, guy...
nah, a magazine ban is equally bullshit.

rage;5329537 said:
Did you seriously just type this stupid shit out?? Do you seriously not know the difference between an assault rifle and a rifle??
your rhetoric is actually giving me the impression YOU have no idea what the difference is. especially in light of the topic of this thread, which was spawned by legislation that would make any rifle with ONE "assault feature" qualify as an "assault weapon"

nujerz84;5329637 said:
I'm come from family in law enforcement and military not a single one have a M16 or Ar 15. Again no valid reason for anyone to have them in your home.
so because your family members don't own an AR-15, my family members shouldn't? what kind of sense does that make?

 
rage;5329663 said:
1) So while you're waiting for the plot of The Postman to take place you have no problem with the number of mass murders the likes of which NO OTHER CIVILIZED country experiences taking place
false. remember, if nothing else, that whole thing in Norway? or is this some kind of "no other country is civilized" rant?

rage;5329663 said:
2) You also think that "It will be made easier if your armed correctly" against the most powerful army in the history of the world. You feel that having access to assault rifles will make it "easier" to take on
yes, clearly a disarmed populace would be better suited to the task.

rage;5329674 said:
Does a hunting rifle have the capacity to accept 60 - 100 round mags?
yes, they do. how well versed are you with hunting?

rage;5329674 said:
Does a shot gun have the ability to go from single fire to semi-auto to full auto EASILY?
please tell me what firearms you're talking about here. because fully-automatic firearms are NOT what's being discussed here, and if you think they are, you're showing your ignorance of firearms.

jono;5330387 said:
Confused man, man is confused. Registration and disarmament are not the same thing.
it might be if we're looking at this legislation as a whole...
 
Black_Samson;5330699 said:
dude rage is all over the damn place.

he dont know if he wanna ban ar's or high cap mags.
not even to talk trash, but at this point i am assuming he is just SO ANGRY that he would rather just yell emotional statements than debate the point. also telling is that there's no discussion of any gun control method OTHER than bans/confiscation being discussed (although in fairness, i do not think Feinstein promotes any others)

Black_Samson;5330699 said:
he thinks that there is a fundamental difference between a rifle and a AR.

it's the same fucking guts, one just look scarier.
now please don't tell him to consider the range and wounding comparisons between those rifles and OMG AR-15s

Black_Samson;5330699 said:
by this nigga standard, the M1 Garand is an AR...
i think many people do not think a Garand is semi-automatic. but hell, Feinstein wants to make M1 carbines assault weapons, so we're also there.
 
@Black_samson

you and other vets and gun enthusiasts on the IC should create a sticky

educating people about firearms....

Ignorance is regularly used as a weapon against the peoples.
 
Black_Samson;5330876 said:
Amotekun;5330866 said:
@Black_samson

you and other vets and gun enthusiasts on the IC should create a sticky

educating people about firearms....

Ignorance is regularly used as a weapon against the peoples.

man. last thing i wanna do is have my knowledge attached to these damn fatherless dickheads...

Hey nigga stop bein stingy

 
rage;5329531 said:
Black_Samson;5329416 said:
instead of talking shit... folk should be posting stats.

stats that say yes, this many mass killing happened with AR's.

stats that say most gun violence is done with AR's.

but yall aint gon do that are you?

yall just gon keep repeating what ever charlie sheen and beyonce tell you to repeat.

fucking sheep.

yall acting like 9/11 all over again... we get attacked by saudi's and jews but go after saddam.

why are we going after AR's again?

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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data

From 1982 to 2012 close to 62 mass/spree killings have taken place in america

68 semi-automatic weapons, 35 assault rifles, 20 Handguns and 19 rifles.

Now will you dummies stop and look what is happening or will you continue to stick your head in the sand and act like owning weapons of mass murder still have a place in a civilized society.

I guess @janklow missed this post....
 

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