Marine goes in on CA senator over her proposed ban on assault weapons

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[bbwthick23]

@Black_Samson... Speaking of facts, why does everyone equate gun control with the government taking away every gun in every American household?

 

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[MrSoutCity]

@Black_samson

you and other vets and gun enthusiasts on the IC should create a sticky

educating people about firearms....

Ignorance is regularly used as a weapon against the peoples.

I second this...

@Black_samson

you and other vets and gun enthusiasts on the IC should create a sticky

educating people about firearms....

Ignorance is regularly used as a weapon against the peoples.

man. last thing i wanna do is have my knowledge attached to these damn fatherless dickheads...

Jamel why you gotta be a stingy nigga...

 

[MrSoutCity]

@rage Should the government take away our so called first amendment right too?? What about the 4th 5th 6th and 7th??

 

[rage]

Absofuckinglutely...every single assault rifle, every single extended clip, drums, armor piercing bullet should be taken away. Nobody aside from the military and law enforcement should have access to WEAPONS OF MASS MURDER. That's is all an assault rifle is....a weapon of mass murder.

i've got a safe full of them myself that have never killed anyone. so how exactly are they weapons of mass murder? not to mention the millions of them out there that aren't being used for any sorts of crime?

also, there's the whole debate over this terminology: you're most assuredly calling a lot of normal magazines "extended clips," i can't even begin to imagine what you think "armor piercing bullets" actually are, and hell, the definition of "assault weapon" remains oh so fluid as is convenient.

He is a psycho because he feels no need for even registering a weapon of mass murder, he is a psycho because he feels he has some innate right to have access to weapons of mass murder.

no, he's a psycho because you disagree with him. you clearly think that a civilian such as a police officer can handle these firearms without committing MASS MURDERS, yet someone who's not issued a fancy uniform cannot?

but hey, i can't imagine why a guy who legally owns a firearm would take issue with being told he needs to register it when he's done nothing wrong, but instead, finds himself labeled a psycho. and we can leave the property rights and privacy issues inherent in many of these aside, i suppose; but remember, kids: Feinstein's proposed registration would not simply make this man register a rifle, but would make him submit fingerprints, a photograph and $200 tax per rifle, and would mandate confiscation of said rifle were he to die.

1) I love how you completely ignored all the stats a I put up. In Sandy Hook, the VERY FIRST person that got killed was the LEGAL OWNER OF THE GUN. Secondly the vast majority of mass murders are done by legal guns. 35 assault rifles were used to commit mass murders in the US versus 19 rifles.

2) Your absolutley right I dont think a person who has had a background check and a psychological evaluation should own a gun. AGAIN the VAST MAJORITY OF MASS MURDERS ARE DONE BY LEGALLY PURCHASED GUNS.

3) Are you seriously trying to tell me a person who wants to own a weapon of mass murder shouldnt be registered? Vehicles are registered...but weapons of mass murder are not? What kind of logic is this??

 

[rage]

So you think its cool for someone to walk into a Walmart buy a semi-automatic assault rifle like this

well, i would not recommend they shop at Wal-Mart, but who cares?

100 clip magazine

100 clip magazine?

Can anyone of you gun lovers give one good reason as to why you need an assault rifle?....A hand gun will do just fine to protect your home

why should i have to explain why i need it?

instead of talking shit... folk should be posting stats.

stats that say yes, this many mass killing happened with AR's.

stats that say most gun violence is done with AR's.

well, considering that they don't have stats that say these things... hmmm

1) Way to ignore the salient point....but I see that thats the theme of all your responses.

2) Again side stepping the actual point....and focusing on minutia.

3) You need to explain it because you want to own something that has the express purpose of killing lots of people quickly.

 

[rage]

@rage Should the government take away our so called first amendment right too?? What about the 4th 5th 6th and 7th??

Another dumbass post..

1) The 2nd amendment was written at the same time when people thought black people would make great low cost labour, weren't real whole human beings and electricity wasnt around.

2) The 2nd amendment says the right to bear arms....it doesnt specify WHAT arms your allowed to bear.

 

[rage]

instead of talking shit... folk should be posting stats.

stats that say yes, this many mass killing happened with AR's.

stats that say most gun violence is done with AR's.

but yall aint gon do that are you?

yall just gon keep repeating what ever charlie sheen and beyonce tell you to repeat.

fucking sheep.

yall acting like 9/11 all over again... we get attacked by saudi's and jews but go after saddam.

why are we going after AR's again?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data

From 1982 to 2012 close to 62 mass/spree killings have taken place in america

68 semi-automatic weapons, 35 assault rifles, 20 Handguns and 19 rifles.

Now will you dummies stop and look what is happening or will you continue to stick your head in the sand and act like owning weapons of mass murder still have a place in a civilized society.

I guess @janklow missed this post....

Exactly....

62 Mass/Spree killings in America since 1982

68 semi-automatics, 35 assault rifles, 20 by handguns and 19 by rifles. 49 of them were obtained legally

I wish you niggas would just be straight up about guns....you guys think they are cool. I get that, shit I think guns are cool, the bigger the badder, the more bullets the fire and the more shit they can blow up the cooler it is. But reality has to step in when 13,000 people a year are being murdered by guns, gun murders per 100,000 in america are higher by a HUGE margin over any other first world and some 2nd world countries. To keep going along with the status quo is INSANITY.

 

[rage]

Whats also hilarious is this argument about categorization. Like you guys dont know EXACTLY what guns people want banned, and WHY they want them banned. Its the same shell game that gun lovers and the NRA have been playing forever. Oh because of this stock it isnt an assault rifle, and because it doesnt have selective fire rates whatever other syntax thats played on. Everybody else isnt dumb, there is a reason the military use assault rifles such as M-16s, AR-15s, AK-47s etc....and its not because the "look scary".

 

[MrSoutCity]

@rage Should the government take away our so called first amendment right too?? What about the 4th 5th 6th and 7th??

Another dumbass post..

1) The 2nd amendment was written at the same time when people thought black people would make great low cost labour, weren't real whole human beings and electricity wasnt around.

2) The 2nd amendment says the right to bear arms....it doesnt specify WHAT arms your allowed to bear.

I asked you a simple question you stupid fuck. And wasn't the second and first amendment written the same time? So what the fuck is your point.

 

[rage]

@rage Should the government take away our so called first amendment right too?? What about the 4th 5th 6th and 7th??

Another dumbass post..

1) The 2nd amendment was written at the same time when people thought black people would make great low cost labour, weren't real whole human beings and electricity wasnt around.

2) The 2nd amendment says the right to bear arms....it doesnt specify WHAT arms your allowed to bear.

I asked you a simple question you stupid fuck. And wasn't the second and first amendment written the same time? So what the fuck is your point.

It wasn't a question it was some sanctimonious irrelevant bullshit strawman tactic. So what if they were written at the same time?? One is irrelevant in 2013 and one isnt....again what is your point?

 

[zombie]

I say every sane american man who wants a gun should be able to get one

 

[zombie]

instead of talking shit... folk should be posting stats.

stats that say yes, this many mass killing happened with AR's.

stats that say most gun violence is done with AR's.

but yall aint gon do that are you?

yall just gon keep repeating what ever charlie sheen and beyonce tell you to repeat.

fucking sheep.

yall acting like 9/11 all over again... we get attacked by saudi's and jews but go after saddam.

why are we going after AR's again?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data

From 1982 to 2012 close to 62 mass/spree killings have taken place in america

68 semi-automatic weapons, 35 assault rifles, 20 Handguns and 19 rifles.

Now will you dummies stop and look what is happening or will you continue to stick your head in the sand and act like owning weapons of mass murder still have a place in a civilized society.

I guess @janklow missed this post....

Exactly....

62 Mass/Spree killings in America since 1982

68 semi-automatics, 35 assault rifles, 20 by handguns and 19 by rifles. 49 of them were obtained legally

I wish you niggas would just be straight up about guns....you guys think they are cool. I get that, shit I think guns are cool, the bigger the badder, the more bullets the fire and the more shit they can blow up the cooler it is. But reality has to step in when 13,000 people a year are being murdered by guns, gun murders per 100,000 in america are higher by a HUGE margin over any other first world and some 2nd world countries. To keep going along with the status quo is INSANITY.

Fuck the other first world nations. America is america and Americans want their motherfucking guns we don't need to conform to fucking western europe.

 

[zombie]

The american public should always have access to these kinds of weapons they are needed they give us the potential to form rebel movements should the government ever become a dictatorship.

BWAHAHHAHAHAHHA!!! How fucking delusional are you??? Honestly...what are these weapons going to do vs this?

I swear you guys will swallow just about any stupid argument no matter how idiotic and how outdated it is.

Those things don't mean anything people win wars not machines. It is the willingness to fight and die that keeps freedom alive not drones. Cowards and fools give up there weapons a superior military force can be destroyed by an inferior one it has happened time and time again. Hell that's how america came into being in the first place. In guerrilla warfare those weapons would be much less effective look at iraq we did not really win that war and we are not really wining afganistan. America is not your friend your views on the world we live in are very naive and lack historical precedent the sad thing is you say these things with such conviction. What would you prefer dying with a ak in your hand or being lead to the slaughter or slavery by a government gone wrong. keep in mind it's not just about this generation but those yet to come. 50 years from now america may degenerate into a dictatorship, and our grandsons will need guns.

So then why do you need AR-15s?? Why can't you use Rifles and handguns??

We should have access to all of them all kinds of guns should be able to be bought by the public and a free people we will use rifles and handguns if needed.

Why??? You JUST said people win wars not machines. So WHY do you need machines of mass murder??

We may need to mass murder certain people, people who in the future may try and take away our freedom. Ultimately it is people who win wars but the struggle is made easier when you are armed correctly and

because we want them it's as simple as that.

With or with out these weapons in the scenerio i am talking about people will fight but they would be foolish to allow some their most powerful weapons to be taken away.

1) So while you're waiting for the plot of The Postman to take place you have no problem with the number of mass murders the likes of which NO OTHER CIVILIZED country experiences taking place. You have no problem living in a country where someone can walk into a walmart buy an assault rifle with 60-100 bullets then walk into a mall, school, university, daycare, cinema, library, condominium, stadium, arena and kill anywhere between 25 to 50 people? Right??

2) You also think that "It will be made easier if your armed correctly" against the most powerful army in the history of the world. You feel that having access to assault rifles will make it "easier" to take on

679 Drones

3000+ Fighter planes

9000+ Tanks

8000+ Artillery batteries

3500+ Cruise missiles

etc etc etc etc

I'm done responding to you...shit is dumb as fuck.

The simple answer to you is yes. I would rather have ten sandy hooks than let the government take away my right to own whatever I want. The most powerful military in the world has been beaten before and can be beaten again. A true civil war or rebellion in the modern usa would destroy it and in that case the rebels would win anyway. Real men are not scared of their government.

That doesn't really help your argument. In fact I say it hurts it.

I don't see how, my rights exist no matter how many people die, as long as i don't cause their death the state should not take away my property. Laws are to balance the common good with the individuals rights. Me owning a machine gun is not endangering your life so therefore i should be able to keep and buy any gun that i want.

 

[MrSoutCity]

@rage Should the government take away our so called first amendment right too?? What about the 4th 5th 6th and 7th??

Another dumbass post..

1) The 2nd amendment was written at the same time when people thought black people would make great low cost labour, weren't real whole human beings and electricity wasnt around.

2) The 2nd amendment says the right to bear arms....it doesnt specify WHAT arms your allowed to bear.

I asked you a simple question you stupid fuck. And wasn't the second and first amendment written the same time? So what the fuck is your point.

It wasn't a question it was some sanctimonious irrelevant bullshit strawman tactic. So what if they were written at the same time?? One is irrelevant in 2013 and one isnt....again what is your point?

What makes is irrelevant? Because your dumb ass says so?? foh..

 

[soulbrother]

Can anyone of you gun lovers give one good reason as to why you need an assault rifle?....A hand gun will do just fine to protect your home

why should i have to explain why i need it?

In other words....I don't have a reason..therefore....there is no reason to own assault rifles

 

[soulbrother]

instead of talking shit... folk should be posting stats.

stats that say yes, this many mass killing happened with AR's.

stats that say most gun violence is done with AR's.

but yall aint gon do that are you?

yall just gon keep repeating what ever charlie sheen and beyonce tell you to repeat.

fucking sheep.

yall acting like 9/11 all over again... we get attacked by saudi's and jews but go after saddam.

why are we going after AR's again?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data

From 1982 to 2012 close to 62 mass/spree killings have taken place in america

68 semi-automatic weapons, 35 assault rifles, 20 Handguns and 19 rifles.

Now will you dummies stop and look what is happening or will you continue to stick your head in the sand and act like owning weapons of mass murder still have a place in a civilized society.

I guess @janklow missed this post....

Exactly....

62 Mass/Spree killings in America since 1982

68 semi-automatics, 35 assault rifles, 20 by handguns and 19 by rifles. 49 of them were obtained legally

I wish you niggas would just be straight up about guns....you guys think they are cool. I get that, shit I think guns are cool, the bigger the badder, the more bullets the fire and the more shit they can blow up the cooler it is. But reality has to step in when 13,000 people a year are being murdered by guns, gun murders per 100,000 in america are higher by a HUGE margin over any other first world and some 2nd world countries. To keep going along with the status quo is INSANITY.

Fuck the other first world nations. America is america and Americans want their motherfucking guns we don't need to conform to fucking western europe.

Its not about conforming to western europe.....its about stopping the guns violence and gun deaths....it's not that hard to understand...

 

[zombie]

Can anyone of you gun lovers give one good reason as to why you need an assault rifle?....A hand gun will do just fine to protect your home

why should i have to explain why i need it?

In other words....I don't have a reason..therefore....there is no reason to own assault rifles

There are reason but we don't have to have a reason, we just like them end of story. i should not have to explain why i own anything to anyone.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

@rage Should the government take away our so called first amendment right too?? What about the 4th 5th 6th and 7th??

Another dumbass post..

1) The 2nd amendment was written at the same time when people thought black people would make great low cost labour, weren't real whole human beings and electricity wasnt around.

what does that have to do with anything? shall we discount all things from this period of history?