Lil Keke Says Lil' Flip Was "Outside Of His Character" During T.I. Beef

[MR.CJ]

Flip fell off hard musically after he dropped Underground Legend, him and Hump stopped messing with each other and he switched his whole style up. He got more into that gun/trap/hustle talk and kind of got away from what made people like his music. I Need Mine is an underrated double album imo though.

I feel what Keke was saying but like what T. Sanford said what was he supposed to do?

Texas was already in the process of whoring out our culture and T.I. came along and hopped on the wave by aligning with Slim Thug and Paul Wall(two of the faces of Texas music at the time) as well as Trae, Lil 3rd and Hump. Scarface is top 5 d.o.a but he definitely pulled a hoe move acting like he didn't know Flip when he tried to sign him when became president of Def Jam South.UGK was neutral for the most part and were doing songs with both artist but they appeared with T.I. a lot during this time too. So it looked the entire state was riding with the outsider and T.I. was going at Flips neck while he sat back and let it happen for the most part. He dropped some freestyle disses/mixtape but he didnt respond like he should have and like how people expected because of how he broke off 3rd, Lil Flex and ESG.

The only people that were really holding down Flip were Z-Ro, Chamillion and The Botany Boyz. Everybody else turned that back on him or kind of gave him the Mike Jones treatment even though if you look at his first album you see ESG on it, you see Slim Thug on it as well as a lot of other dudes he gave a good look to by putting them on his album.

Who side mike jones was on?

 

[Trollio]

Flip fell off hard musically after he dropped Underground Legend, him and Hump stopped messing with each other and he switched his whole style up. He got more into that gun/trap/hustle talk and kind of got away from what made people like his music. I Need Mine is an underrated double album imo though.

I feel what Keke was saying but like what T. Sanford said what was he supposed to do?

Texas was already in the process of whoring out our culture and T.I. came along and hopped on the wave by aligning with Slim Thug and Paul Wall(two of the faces of Texas music at the time) as well as Trae, Lil 3rd and Hump. Scarface is top 5 d.o.a but he definitely pulled a hoe move acting like he didn't know Flip when he tried to sign him when became president of Def Jam South.UGK was neutral for the most part and were doing songs with both artist but they appeared with T.I. a lot during this time too. So it looked the entire state was riding with the outsider and T.I. was going at Flips neck while he sat back and let it happen for the most part. He dropped some freestyle disses/mixtape but he didnt respond like he should have and like how people expected because of how he broke off 3rd, Lil Flex and ESG.

The only people that were really holding down Flip were Z-Ro, Chamillion and The Botany Boyz. Everybody else turned that back on him or kind of gave him the Mike Jones treatment even though if you look at his first album you see ESG on it, you see Slim Thug on it as well as a lot of other dudes he gave a good look to by putting them on his album.

Who side mike jones was on?

Mike was on the cement side

 

[Trollio]

The gayest shit was paul wall calling t.i. the king of the south and that flip tattoo he got.

p wall got a memorial tattoo for the day flip got shot

scust

 

[trilladelic]

But TI started the beef, how was Flip supposed to respond? If he wouldn't of responded then people would've been calling him a hoe & then TI got caught looking like a raccoon in that 3 kingz video with that black eye.

Face didn't help neither by jumping in their beef

tip said flip kinda started that shit. flip was tryna holla at tiny or some shit which lead flip to speak ill of ti. word gets back to tip (who was in jail at the time) & u know the rest..

so apparently mayweather isnt the 1st beef tip has been in behind tiny..

no gossip girl..

dude its in print. i wish i could remember what mag i read it in but thats what i can recall from reading it

when i look it up on the google all they say about is it started from flip talkin shit about tip in an interview while he was in jail..

i wish is still had that magazine. ti was was something about how he some other up and coming rappers at the time flip included were having a photo shoot. while the other rapper were in chill mode flip wanted to mug up for the camera.

 

[MR.CJ]

But TI started the beef, how was Flip supposed to respond? If he wouldn't of responded then people would've been calling him a hoe & then TI got caught looking like a raccoon in that 3 kingz video with that black eye.

Face didn't help neither by jumping in their beef

@T.Sanford There were some bad chicks in that video

 

[P. Town]

I remember a lil Z-Ro interview where he said if he wasn't such a real nigga he would have lost his street credibility when he started fuckin with Flip

was this after the beef, or b4 and no one gave flip any credibility from the jump?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFZkhIfU9TM

 

[prop joe]

The whole recent Floyd Mayweather thing just show how T.I. would start beef with no proof. Which goes back to the he say/she say on what started his beef with Flip.

T.I. always jump into the fire without finding the truth on what someone tell him.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

idk, im not really buyin that tip started this over flip tryna get at tiny, and who knows how either one of em throw hands, but size aint really as big of a difference as some might think

 

[h8rhurta]

Texas lost

How?

Sidenote: Your sig is EPIC!

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

I remember a lil Z-Ro interview where he said if he wasn't such a real nigga he would have lost his street credibility when he started fuckin with Flip

was this after the beef, or b4 and no one gave flip any credibility from the jump?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cFZkhIfU9TM

damn, these niggas really be goin thru some friends one day enemies the next type shit

 

[Ear2DaSt]

I never even hear street n*ggaz use terms like win and lost.

We can't lose if we don't play your game!

 

[southsil4lil]

I don't think Z-Ro himself was calling Flip a bitch, he was saying if he wasn't official he wouldn't fuck with somebody perceived to be a so called bitch by others.Flip and Ro always been straight though.

I think Hawk being killed around this time hurt the moment as well

 

[Rampage12]

idk, im not really buyin that tip started this over flip tryna get at tiny, and who knows how either one of em throw hands, but size aint really as big of a difference as some might think

All I'm saying is if two dudes get into a fight and neither have any real combat background (boxing, kickboxing, jiu jitsu, wrestling, judo) the dude with the 8 inch height and 80 pound weight advantage is going to win the majority of the time.

 

[Rampage12]

The gayest shit was paul wall calling t.i. the king of the south and that flip tattoo he got.

p wall got a memorial tattoo for the day flip got shot

scust

Paul Wall a hoe, he also said "I'm rolling wit T.I., the King of the South" on the same track where Chamillionaire said "I officially proclaim myself the King of the South" But I believe he was Grand Hustle's DJ wasn't he???

 

[Turfaholic]

But TI started the beef, how was Flip supposed to respond? If he wouldn't of responded then people would've been calling him a hoe & then TI got caught looking like a raccoon in that 3 kingz video with that black eye.

Face didn't help neither by jumping in their beef

@T.Sanford There were some bad chicks in that video

T.I. prime was Trap Muzik til Urban Legend. I can't stand the soft shit he been on lately.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

drama was/is tip's dj, but i believe i read about paul wall goin on tour with tip a couple times in some texas beef thread i read on another forum, when i look back it do look like tip used them, i woulda thought paul and slim would have a lot more collabs with tip

 

[h8rhurta]

Texas lost

How?

Sidenote: Your sig is EPIC!

I remember a lil Z-Ro interview where he said if he wasn't such a real nigga he would have lost his street credibility when he started fuckin with Flip

was this after the beef, or b4 and no one gave flip any credibility from the jump?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cFZkhIfU9TM

damn, these niggas really be goin thru some friends one day enemies the next type shit

Same could be said about Dipset, Wu-Tang, Mobb Deep.....is it that NY lost or people just don't see eye-to-eye anymore? If you said Texas lost because of Mike Jones, I could agree with that one more than rappers falling out.

 

[h8rhurta]

The gayest shit was paul wall calling t.i. the king of the south and that flip tattoo he got.

p wall got a memorial tattoo for the day flip got shot

scust

Paul Wall a hoe, he also said "I'm rolling wit T.I., the King of the South" on the same track where Chamillionaire said "I officially proclaim myself the King of the South" But I believe he was Grand Hustle's DJ wasn't he???

Yeah he was DJ'ing for TI for a little minute. Hence the shoutout in 3 Kingz. Paul Wall good people and does real shit. Flip was fucking with him and Chamill back in the Swishahouse/CCC days. But during that time you see Flip had Cham on his record so of course Paul was biased based on a few things.....including getting a check.

 

[P. Town]

I remember hearing a song where Slim Thug dissed Sqad Up for wearin them Clover G's chains

 

[T. Sanford]

drama was/is tip's dj, but i believe i read about paul wall goin on tour with tip a couple times in some texas beef thread i read on another forum, when i look back it do look like tip used them, i woulda thought paul and slim would have a lot more collabs with tip

I agree, it do look like he used them & their movement. TI was calling Paul Wall an Grand Hustle affiliate & shit.

I bet he haven't holla at them niggas since 05'