Legend, Overrated, or GOAT Vol. 2: Jay-Z

[Lebong James]

FACT: you can't sit through any of Jay Z's albums without skipping a song or two at the very least

therefore=Not GOAT

Every artist albums for the most part has skippable songs, and that's including Pac, Nas, Face, and Cube (who make up my top 5). The fact that you think any artist has all flawless albums is stupid.

im being kind for jigga stans, let me rephrase that

Jay has 2 or 3 terrible albums and even his best albums have 2 or 3 songs that are skippable

So does Nas, Nastradamus, Street Disciple, etc aren't good albums.

Ice Cube got bad albums with War and Piece vol 1 and War and Peace Vol 2

KRS got wack albums

So does Face

So does everyone

When i say wack, i mean for their standards, not Soulja Boy standards. lol

I mean how many albums out there in hiphop, much less music are considered pure classic with no so so songs. What, Thriller, Off the Wall, Songs in the key of life,etc. Every album has that 1 or 2 songs that are so so.

The worst songs on Jay-z albums that people might consider classic are Ain't no nigga, That nigga jigga, and Justify my thug. Those songs aren't even wack to me.

Kanye and Dre albums ain't got skippable songs on their classics, just to use an example imo

 

[usmarin3]

FACT: you can't sit through any of Jay Z's albums without skipping a song or two at the very least

therefore=Not GOAT

Every artist albums for the most part has skippable songs, and that's including Pac, Nas, Face, and Cube (who make up my top 5). The fact that you think any artist has all flawless albums is stupid.

im being kind for jigga stans, let me rephrase that

Jay has 2 or 3 terrible albums and even his best albums have 2 or 3 songs that are skippable

So does Nas, Nastradamus, Street Disciple, etc aren't good albums.

Ice Cube got bad albums with War and Piece vol 1 and War and Peace Vol 2

KRS got wack albums

So does Face

So does everyone

When i say wack, i mean for their standards, not Soulja Boy standards. lol

I mean how many albums out there in hiphop, much less music are considered pure classic with no so so songs. What, Thriller, Off the Wall, Songs in the key of life,etc. Every album has that 1 or 2 songs that are so so.

The worst songs on Jay-z albums that people might consider classic are Ain't no nigga, That nigga jigga, and Justify my thug. Those songs aren't even wack to me.

Kanye and Dre albums ain't got skippable songs on their classics, just to use an example imo

SMH at this fuck shit!

Work out plan is grade A garbage, so is Drunk and Hot girls, etc

Dr. Dre got some wack tracks too.

 

[Lebong James]

FACT: you can't sit through any of Jay Z's albums without skipping a song or two at the very least

therefore=Not GOAT

Every artist albums for the most part has skippable songs, and that's including Pac, Nas, Face, and Cube (who make up my top 5). The fact that you think any artist has all flawless albums is stupid.

im being kind for jigga stans, let me rephrase that

Jay has 2 or 3 terrible albums and even his best albums have 2 or 3 songs that are skippable

So does Nas, Nastradamus, Street Disciple, etc aren't good albums.

Ice Cube got bad albums with War and Piece vol 1 and War and Peace Vol 2

KRS got wack albums

So does Face

So does everyone

When i say wack, i mean for their standards, not Soulja Boy standards. lol

I mean how many albums out there in hiphop, much less music are considered pure classic with no so so songs. What, Thriller, Off the Wall, Songs in the key of life,etc. Every album has that 1 or 2 songs that are so so.

The worst songs on Jay-z albums that people might consider classic are Ain't no nigga, That nigga jigga, and Justify my thug. Those songs aren't even wack to me.

Kanye and Dre albums ain't got skippable songs on their classics, just to use an example imo

SMH at this fuck shit!

Work out plan is grade A garbage, so is Drunk and Hot girls, etc

Dr. Dre got some wack tracks too.

u ain't relate to Drunk and hot girls u ain't a real nigga

 

[soul rattler]

Like others have stated a big part of the acclaim he gets is for non-music related stuff like the powermoves he makes, his wife etc. It's hard to seperate these...

No it's not. 50 Cent [attempts to] attach himself to affluent people and his earnings are common knowledge. Yet nobody outside of a few wierdos consider him one of the greatest.

 

[1of1]

In this manila envelope the results of my insanity

Quack said I've crossed the line 'tween real life and fantasy

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This is probably my favorite Jay verse of recent times.

 

[DMTxTHC]

In this manila envelope the results of my insanity

Quack said I've crossed the line 'tween real life and fantasy

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This is probably my favorite Jay verse of recent times.

His verses on Shiny Suit Theory and Murder to Excellence give me hope for his next album..

 

[nickyb23]

One of the greatest but I have PAC & big ahead of him maybe nas too

 

[1of1]

In this manila envelope the results of my insanity

Quack said I've crossed the line 'tween real life and fantasy

=youtube_gdata_player

This is probably my favorite Jay verse of recent times.

His verses on Shiny Suit Theory and Murder to Excellence give me hope for his next album..

No doubt. I can't lie I'm a fan of his approach to No Church In the Wild too. I love how he finds a new flow/pace for every song. The shit is masterful.

Man I really hope Jay will dig deep and do an album with minimal features again (a la Blueprint and Black Album)...maybe a couple features from the Nas' and Jay Elects of the world to help him raise the bar on a few tracks but I just wanna hear a no frills Jay album with him just goin in.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

FACT: you can't sit through any of Jay Z's albums without skipping a song or two at the very least

therefore=Not GOAT

Every artist albums for the most part has skippable songs, and that's including Pac, Nas, Face, and Cube (who make up my top 5). The fact that you think any artist has all flawless albums is stupid.

im being kind for jigga stans, let me rephrase that

Jay has 2 or 3 terrible albums and even his best albums have 2 or 3 songs that are skippable

So does Nas, Nastradamus, Street Disciple, etc aren't good albums.

Ice Cube got bad albums with War and Piece vol 1 and War and Peace Vol 2

KRS got wack albums

So does Face

So does everyone

When i say wack, i mean for their standards, not Soulja Boy standards. lol

I mean how many albums out there in hiphop, much less music are considered pure classic with no so so songs. What, Thriller, Off the Wall, Songs in the key of life,etc. Every album has that 1 or 2 songs that are so so.

The worst songs on Jay-z albums that people might consider classic are Ain't no nigga, That nigga jigga, and Justify my thug. Those songs aren't even wack to me.

So basically you're saying that Jay's catalog is no different than every other great solo artist's. So guess what? That still supports the idea that he's overrated given that so many people try to argue that he is far and away the best or that his catalog is flawless. That's overrating, period.

 

[usmarin3]

Your logic is retarded because catalog alone does not determine your legacy and no considered great has a flawless catalog. Jay is goat for his skillset, longevity, influence, and his catalog.

Basing goatness on catalog alone is like saying rings are all that matters when judging athletes.

 

[Lebong James]

Your logic is retarded because catalog alone does not determine your legacy and no considered great has a flawless catalog. Jay is goat for his skillset, longevity, influence, and his catalog.

Basing goatness on catalog alone is like saying rings are all that matters when judging athletes.

in sports rings are what matters when determining GOATs bruh

 

[Lebong James]

whether your albums are great or not are the biggest criteria for GOAT imo...anybody can have a couple hot songs

 

[usmarin3]

Then why isn't Russell and Kareem viewed the same as MJ then. You can't factor out skillset, and other stuff.

 

[Lebong James]

Then why isn't Russell and Kareem viewed the same as MJ then. You can't factor out skillset, and other stuff.

russell really should be up with MJ but the nigga is so dusty nobody saw him play

Kareem cause he had Magic

 

[R.D.]

Then why isn't Russell and Kareem viewed the same as MJ then. You can't factor out skillset, and other stuff.

russell really should be up with MJ but the nigga is so dusty nobody saw him play

Kareem cause he had Magic

What about Robert Horry ?

 

[Lebong James]

Then why isn't Russell and Kareem viewed the same as MJ then. You can't factor out skillset, and other stuff.

russell really should be up with MJ but the nigga is so dusty nobody saw him play

Kareem cause he had Magic

What about Robert Horry ?

horry was a role player, it aint the same...unless you are sayin Jay is Robert Horry status

 

[ohhhla]

Then why isn't Russell and Kareem viewed the same as MJ then. You can't factor out skillset, and other stuff.

russell really should be up with MJ but the nigga is so dusty nobody saw him play

Kareem cause he had Magic

What about Robert Horry ?

horry was a role player, it aint the same...unless you are sayin Jay is Robert Horry status

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LMAO, log off, nigga.

 

[mackadamon]

I've never been a big fan of his but anyone giving him anything less than legendary status is just out right hating.

 

[R.D.]

Then why isn't Russell and Kareem viewed the same as MJ then. You can't factor out skillset, and other stuff.

russell really should be up with MJ but the nigga is so dusty nobody saw him play

Kareem cause he had Magic

What about Robert Horry ?

horry was a role player, it aint the same...unless you are sayin Jay is Robert Horry status

nahhhh just killed your ring argument though

 

[unspoken_respect]

He's still making dope music.

Heartbeat props