Kobe Bryant in the finals : Where do you rank him ?

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The Entrepreneur;2780261 said:
What are Kobe's great finals performances ? I really can't think of one so I decided to do some research

I believe he only scored 40 once in a loss while Magic scored 42 as a rookie in a series ending win with out Kareem

Had to do it cause people was on here crying about Kobe getting slack for his game seven last year ? So for a guy with five rings and the guy who is suppose to be better, next to, or just a little behind MJ never had a great finals performance and he gets too much hate. If anything Kobe has been given more than anybody in history. You don't want Kobe under the microscope like Bron is right now cause it can get ugly. I see what you Kobe stans did you tried to only bring up the argument after he started winning rings again like people would forget two historically bad finals. I wish you guys were around before 09 saying Kobe was going to be better than Jordan cause it would have been bad but you guys change history in your mind. Let's put Kobe's finals against Bird, Magic, and the other greats. Kobe's best final was against Orlando and he shot under 50% in every game.

Magic avg 26 pts 8 reb and 13 ast vs. Bos

Isiah avg 28 pts 5 reb 7 ast vs. Port

Bird avg 24 pts 9.7 reb 9.5 ast vs. Hou

All these guys shot 50% or better as well for the series

Magic, Bird, Tim, Hakeem, Shaq, Wade, Isiah > Kobe in the finals on the big stage

I thought he scored 40 against Boston my bad he scored his only 40 point game against Orlando in a win, don't want you Kobe stans getting side tracked
 
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The Entrepreneur;2780261 said:
What are Kobe's great finals performances ? I really can't think of one so I decided to do some research

I believe he only scored 40 once in a loss while Magic scored 42 as a rookie in a series ending win with out Kareem

Had to do it cause people was on here crying about Kobe getting slack for his game seven last year ? So for a guy with five rings and the guy who is suppose to be better, next to, or just a little behind MJ never had a great finals performance and he gets too much hate. If anything Kobe has been given more than anybody in history. You don't want Kobe under the microscope like Bron is right now cause it can get ugly. I see what you Kobe stans did you tried to only bring up the argument after he started winning rings again like people would forget two historically bad finals. I wish you guys were around before 09 saying Kobe was going to be better than Jordan cause it would have been bad but you guys change history in your mind. Let's put Kobe's finals against Bird, Magic, and the other greats. Kobe's best final was against Orlando and he shot under 50% in every game.

Magic avg 26 pts 8 reb and 13 ast vs. Bos
Isiah avg 28 pts 5 reb 7 ast vs. Port
Bird avg 24 pts 9.7 reb 9.5 ast vs. Hou

All these guys shot 50% or better as well for the series

Magic, Bird, Tim, Hakeem, Shaq, Wade, Isiah > Kobe in the finals on the big stage

is the bolded something to be ashamed of?

what's your angle, here?
 
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Kobe is forever marginalized.. if its not saying so and so better.. its hes no jordan.. or its this that and something else.. Smh @ niggas not appreciating hsi contributions to the sport till he retires..
 
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if this is a "lebron is under the microscope, so lets deflect to kobe" thread then post lefold's finals stats vs kobe's and lets just be done with it
 
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3, behind Jordan and Russell only.

He got their 7 times, won 5. Had less help than Magic in 3 in played in without shaq. All magics titles came with Kareem.

At the end of the day, only thing matter is winning. 7 finals, off the charts.
 
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b*braze;2780320 said:
if this is a "lebron is under the microscope, so lets deflect to kobe" thread then post lefold's finals stats vs kobe's and lets just be done with it

Bro this is a we are killing Lebron cause he came up short in the finals and is laughable in comparison to Jordan but we can act like Kobe never did and still put him on Jordan level kind of thread

Kobe > Bron
 
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playmaker88;2780307 said:
Kobe is forever marginalized.. if its not saying so and so better.. its hes no jordan.. or its this that and something else.. Smh @ niggas not appreciating hsi contributions to the sport till he retires..

Kobe top 10 but there are people between Jordan at 1 and Kobe

I already here people on here making excuses for his bad finals performances just wandering why he gets a pass ? I don't care if Bron come back and get not 6 not 7 or whatever the goat talk is done.
 
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woah316;2780340 said:
3, behind Jordan and Russell only.

He got their 7 times, won 5. Had less help than Magic in 3 in played in without shaq. All magics titles came with Kareem.

At the end of the day, only thing matter is winning. 7 finals, off the charts.

Yeah and Magic beat Boston and Detroit all time great teams Kobe beat Orlando in his best finals, not a good argument teams had multiple hall of famers in those days not just on Magic team not to mention Kareem was like 40 at the end any way
 
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Kobe never really had a Great Finals appearance but his contributions should never be discounted and was usually the best player on the court when he was in the Finals
 
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The Entrepreneur;2780374 said:
Bro this is a we are killing Lebron cause he came up short in the finals and is laughable in comparison to Jordan but we can act like Kobe never did and still put him on Jordan level kind of thread

Kobe > Bron

well so far... kobe's worst finals series is = to or > lebron's best finals series.

so what are you really saying?
 
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The Entrepreneur;2780404 said:
Kobe top 10 but there are people between Jordan at 1 and Kobe

I already here people on here making excuses for his bad finals performances just wandering why he gets a pass ? I don't care if Bron come back and get not 6 not 7 or whatever the goat talk is done.

for now anyway. jordan didnt get his first until what 27-28? lebron's still got time. ... but he couldnt even prove he was the best player on his own team. he's got a lot to prove. whereas kobe has already proven himself
 
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The Entrepreneur;2780429 said:
Yeah and Magic beat Boston and Detroit all time great teams Kobe beat Orlando in his best finals, not a good argument teams had multiple hall of famers in those days not just on Magic team not to mention Kareem was like 40 at the end any way

the reason why those celtics and pistons where all time greats was because they won championships. now ask yourself why kobe hasnt had to face multiple championship winning teams...
 
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2000 NBA Finals: L.A. Lakers defeat Indiana Pacers, 4-2

Bryant's numbers: 15.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 4.2 apg

2001 NBA Finals: L.A. Lakers defeat Philadelphia 76ers, 4-1

Bryant's numbers: 24.6 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 5.8 apg;

2002 NBA Finals: L.A. Lakers defeat New Jersey Nets, 4-0

Bryant's numbers: 26.8 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 5.3 apg

2004 NBA Finals: Detroit Pistons defeat L.A. Lakers, 4-1

Bryant's numbers: 22.6 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 4.4 apg

2008 NBA Finals: Boston Celtics defeat L.A. Lakers, 4-2

Bryant's numbers: 25.7 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 5.0 apg

The numbers speak for themselves.
 
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b*braze;2780531 said:
the reason why those celtics and pistons where all time greats was because they won championships. now ask yourself why kobe hasnt had to face multiple championship winning teams...

The Spurs got 4, the Pistons could have beaten the Spurs for back to back and still wouldn't have been better than the bad boys with the same two

I am just saying you saw the numbers that Bird, Isiah, Magic put up Kobe didn't against less comp

Kobe is a great scorer and he has five rings and that is why you have him ahead of Bird and Magic but ask yourself if you take out the rings how is Kobe better

Bird avg a triple dub for a series on 50% shooting > Kobe in the finals, like I said his best finals he shot 45%
 
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idk what point yall trynna make,heres a lil chart to answer these gay arguments. jordan>>kobe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lebron.
 
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The Entrepreneur;2781753 said:
The Spurs got 4, the Pistons could have beaten the Spurs for back to back and still wouldn't have been better than the bad boys with the same two

I am just saying you saw the numbers that Bird, Isiah, Magic put up Kobe didn't against less comp

Kobe is a great scorer and he has five rings and that is why you have him ahead of Bird and Magic but ask yourself if you take out the rings how is Kobe better

Bird avg a triple dub for a series on 50% shooting > Kobe in the finals, like I said his best finals he shot 45%

1. do you consider 4x champions tim duncan's spurs an all time great team?

2. i absolutely have NEVER put kobe above bird or magic. i dont know where the fuck you even got that from.

3. again... saying a top 5 player in the history of the game had better finals than kobe is supposed to be some kinda indictment against him? what is your point, really?

wade was considered a better finals performer based off his one trip. taking his last trip into consideration, that is no longer accurate.

but the fact that your comparisons had to come down to magic, bird and isiah's performances are really a compliment no matter how hard you try to make it a diss. lol
 
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mdizzle9000;2781766 said:
idk what point yall trynna make,heres a lil chart to answer these gay arguments. jordan>>kobe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lebron.

i dont either
 
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