Kendrick Lamar's full Cypher verse Video w/words-2013 B.E.T

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blackamerica;6385489 said:
It was a solid verse. I'm in the middle on Kendrick. Don't hate him or love him. It was a good verse. Slaughter House had a better cypher and Crooked I's verse was better than Kendrick's.

Conclusion: Kendrick's being over hyped and given a title as the "best" that he doesn't really deserve. You can tell he's feeling himself a lil too much. Whenever that wave go away he's gonna regret calling out so many ppl

well put. i wouldnt call it solid tho. i hate that repeating lines/rhyming fuck with fuck type shit tho.. major points lost

 
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judahxulu;6385725 said:
what the fuck is "hate" tho? thats a general ass term used to gloss over specifics... like HOW is the nigga so swiftly succesful? who are his benefactors and what are their interests? their track record? that "hate" shit need to rest... imo its just some shit buffoons say to make suckiling the teat of status quo seem "cool"

judahxulu;6385733 said:
well put. i wouldnt call it solid tho. i hate that repeating lines/rhyming fuck with fuck type shit tho.. major points lost

judahxulu;6385695 said:
no nigga. i know what i know and i stand on it. i know that verse was borderline wack if it werent for those sparse zingers and not worth the hype at all. thats the subject at hand.

judahxulu;6385718 said:
im not talking about revolution nigga. its as simple as survival and social responsibility. niggas is sleeping with the enemy and that aint no conspiracy shit. anyway...

CRITICAL QUESTIONS

1) explain WHY it was needed?

2) is the industry and those in it the end all be all of what is hip-hop?

3) Define being true to the craft

preach brother
 
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judahxulu;6385725 said:
mike06;6385415 said:
judahxulu;6385166 said:
mike06;6385114 said:
SheerExcellence;6385034 said:
gemini86;6385016 said:
I don't know if niggas is caping for the favorite rapper because they feel threatened by Kendrick or if yall just have bad taste. that cypher was great.

or it could be those south country bumpkins that just want to have a good dance tune or imagine themselves in "the trap"

"what he say bruh? i couldn't understand it bruh. I think he dissin ross. fuck that nigga bruh."

most of the ppl that hate kendrick. i dont mean DISLIKE, i mean the ppl that can't go five minutes without saying how much he is "trash" or "piece of shit" etc

those ppl they dont even hate kendrick, per se, they just hate the fact that ppl like him so much. the mere fact some people out there saying he is great, they have to go way to the other extreme.

what i don't understand is why they can't just let it be.

in this day in age, anyone that obtains success as fast as he did gets hate 3x faster....if GKMC went gold or worse and he was still doin what he does niggas wouldn't even give him the time of day to "hate"

thats the fallacy. thats what fucks up rap. periphery shit. maybe niggas just dont like his MUSIC or notice a difference once his success was GIVEN by getting in where he fit with the folks that make and break artists in the industry.

that "hate" word is some hdeous shit in modern context. any mufucka analyzing and using critical thought past and often at odds with popular hive mind thought is "hating". FOH.

you know how can tell the verse was wack and the niggas overrated?

fanboys preaching about periphery shit.

but none of u even acknowledging the wack sauce written out in the o/p. hypocrite ass niggas. i remember yall was on here dogging rick ross for repeating himself in bars.

just the fact the game is at the point where a bet awards show gets this "unofficial official" hip hop seal of approval is macabre

hating.. LMBAO

nigga the people paying these niggas hated us from the jump. only thru THEM do most in the mainstream "obtain success". thats a fucking fact! THAT MEANS the boundaries of their content is determined by people who hate their core audience. FACT

all that aside.

THAT VERSE WAS ASS

calm down homie....wasnt talkin about you and your opinion but dont act like niggas dont hate on Kendrick for anything other than he's got succesful quicker than expected....he's not wack lyrically and makes good music IN MY OPINION....you are right the word hate gets thrown out there for any dislike of an artist and there are people out there who form valid opinions of not liking dude but there are also others who just flat out dont like the kid which = hate for me but again i dont see him getting any of this hate or flack for anything he does if he didn't do so well his first time out

what the fuck is "hate" tho? thats a general ass term used to gloss over specifics... like HOW is the nigga so swiftly succesful? who are his benefactors and what are their interests? their track record? that "hate" shit need to rest... imo its just some shit buffoons say to make suckiling the teat of status quo seem "cool"

lmaoooo....ok

keep tellin em why you mad bro...they still dont hear you
 
@ Juda

Yeah you are right, absolutely right

From all rappers out nowadays, you picked the right guy (and criticise his lyrial content)

What is wrong with you?, lmao
 
judahxulu;6384851 said:
meh...yeah hes a fucking prodigy.. the savior of rap with bars like these: " So what the [fuck]?

I [fuck] you [niggas] up

I [fuck] you [niggas] up

She suck and [fuck]

I [fuckin’ duck you [fuckin]’ [niggas] like when I want

You going dutch

You going [fuckin’] nuts"

yeah

pure lyrical fucking genius lolololol

What this bar

I feel like some of y’all is hating

That was some right there don't you agree?
 
CC_Poncho;6385508 said:
Kendrick feelin himself, verse was just above average. Jay Rock killed that shit though. Drake was right though, that Control shit was fleeting, now he's gonna start gettin graded hard as fuck. And that ain't even fair cause Control wasn't even THAT good lyrically

In this day and age what's not fleeting? It's always on to the next. One week Drakes the man, next Pusha T drop and it's his moment, and here we are commenting on another Kendrick verse.

 
IamMonster;6385861 said:
CC_Poncho;6385508 said:
Kendrick feelin himself, verse was just above average. Jay Rock killed that shit though. Drake was right though, that Control shit was fleeting, now he's gonna start gettin graded hard as fuck. And that ain't even fair cause Control wasn't even THAT good lyrically

In this day and age what's not fleeting? It's always on to the next. One week Drakes the man, next Pusha T drop and it's his moment, and here we are commenting on another Kendrick verse.

There's still such thing as an iconic moment in Hip-Hop, people thought the Control verse was one of em but it was far from that...

 
judahxulu;6384920 said:
I serve [niggas] like Master Geoffrey

Jump on this curb

Turn a shottie to a verb if you let me

You know I’m a killer

I’m on your head

You know I’m a killer... LMBAO!!! this trash speaks for itself and niggas still out here distorting reality blinded by boycrushes lolololol

i'll be the first to admit some of that ish was def light .... not to mention school boy with his light ass verse .. in all seriousness we need to be talking about SOULO !!!!! cause that boy killed it !!
 
CC_Poncho;6385911 said:
IamMonster;6385861 said:
CC_Poncho;6385508 said:
Kendrick feelin himself, verse was just above average. Jay Rock killed that shit though. Drake was right though, that Control shit was fleeting, now he's gonna start gettin graded hard as fuck. And that ain't even fair cause Control wasn't even THAT good lyrically

In this day and age what's not fleeting? It's always on to the next. One week Drakes the man, next Pusha T drop and it's his moment, and here we are commenting on another Kendrick verse.

There's still such thing as an iconic moment in Hip-Hop, people thought the Control verse was one of em but it was far from that...

Yea but when you drop a song no wait a verse and have everybody in and out of hip hop talking about it that is iconic. Rappers were coming out of the wood works to respond and as fleeting as it may have been it made a huge impact that can't be down played.

 
IamMonster;6386192 said:
Yea but when you drop a song no wait a verse and have everybody in and out of hip hop talking about it that is iconic. Rappers were coming out of the wood works to respond and as fleeting as it may have been it made a huge impact that can't be down played.

I agree. Also, let's not get it fucked up. Kendrick Lamar had mainstream white dudes at my job talking about "lyrics." not a song about shaking the ass or twerking or about how they sell drugs in columbia, he had them talking about lyrics, in the same way my boys and I would decipher a ghostface album.

I have criticized kendrick a lot over his Control verse, for various reasons. But people are checking for lyrics and rhymes now, at just the time when everyone thought it was a lost art. The credit is not solely on kendrick. battle rap and the oversaturation of a-b-c rap also helped usher this moment, but let's not fail to give kendrick his credit for shifting mainstream hip-hop into a direction that at least for the moment leads to more people focusing on the art of rhyming.

 
IamMonster;6386192 said:
CC_Poncho;6385911 said:
IamMonster;6385861 said:
CC_Poncho;6385508 said:
Kendrick feelin himself, verse was just above average. Jay Rock killed that shit though. Drake was right though, that Control shit was fleeting, now he's gonna start gettin graded hard as fuck. And that ain't even fair cause Control wasn't even THAT good lyrically

In this day and age what's not fleeting? It's always on to the next. One week Drakes the man, next Pusha T drop and it's his moment, and here we are commenting on another Kendrick verse.

There's still such thing as an iconic moment in Hip-Hop, people thought the Control verse was one of em but it was far from that...

Yea but when you drop a song no wait a verse and have everybody in and out of hip hop talking about it that is iconic. Rappers were coming out of the wood works to respond and as fleeting as it may have been it made a huge impact that can't be down played.

A popular rapper not from NY takes advantage of the weak current state of NY mainstream rap, makes a high profile verse saying he is the KONY. NY rappers respond. What impact?
 
IamMonster;6386192 said:
CC_Poncho;6385911 said:
IamMonster;6385861 said:
CC_Poncho;6385508 said:
Kendrick feelin himself, verse was just above average. Jay Rock killed that shit though. Drake was right though, that Control shit was fleeting, now he's gonna start gettin graded hard as fuck. And that ain't even fair cause Control wasn't even THAT good lyrically

In this day and age what's not fleeting? It's always on to the next. One week Drakes the man, next Pusha T drop and it's his moment, and here we are commenting on another Kendrick verse.

There's still such thing as an iconic moment in Hip-Hop, people thought the Control verse was one of em but it was far from that...

Yea but when you drop a song no wait a verse and have everybody in and out of hip hop talking about it that is iconic. Rappers were coming out of the wood works to respond and as fleeting as it may have been it made a huge impact that can't be down played.

Just cause everyone's talkin about it don't mean shit. Gucci's twitter rant had everyone in hip-hop talkin too
 
Listencloser;6386223 said:
IamMonster;6386192 said:
CC_Poncho;6385911 said:
IamMonster;6385861 said:
CC_Poncho;6385508 said:
Kendrick feelin himself, verse was just above average. Jay Rock killed that shit though. Drake was right though, that Control shit was fleeting, now he's gonna start gettin graded hard as fuck. And that ain't even fair cause Control wasn't even THAT good lyrically

In this day and age what's not fleeting? It's always on to the next. One week Drakes the man, next Pusha T drop and it's his moment, and here we are commenting on another Kendrick verse.

There's still such thing as an iconic moment in Hip-Hop, people thought the Control verse was one of em but it was far from that...

Yea but when you drop a song no wait a verse and have everybody in and out of hip hop talking about it that is iconic. Rappers were coming out of the wood works to respond and as fleeting as it may have been it made a huge impact that can't be down played.

A popular rapper not from NY takes advantage of the weak current state of NY mainstream rap, makes a high profile verse saying he is the KONY. NY rappers respond. What impact?

Down playing. Exposing a weakness is something you should be doing. And let's not pretend like only NY rappers responded and let's not pretend that everybody didn't have something to say about it. Show me a interview of any rapper after that verse that wasn't asked there thoughts on it.

Weather you like the verse or Kendrick is beside the point. Fact of the matter is it's still being discussed presently so it's not that fleeting.
 

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