Jimmy Henchman Finally Admits 2 Planning 1994 2PAC Shooting

[loch121]

LOL at my typo where I said Orlando Jones instead of Orlando Anderson.

Somebody should have caught that and said "Nigga you think the comic from Mad Tv killed Pac?"

I corrected it now

 

[mc317]

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

LOL at my typo where I said Orlando Jones instead of Orlando Anderson.

Somebody should have caught that and said "Nigga you think the comic from Mad Tv killed Pac?"

I corrected it now

I did but I didn't want to be a dick lol I knew what you meant

 

[D. Morgan]

Exactly that nigga is a rat been a rat and deserves no respect. Once you snitch it doesn't matter how much work you put in or how much money you made. All that shit doesn't matter anymore cause when your name is spoken the first and last thing that will be said is that he is a rat.

 

[lethal5]

Anybody got a link to the AJ Benza article where pac dissed Jack in the newspaper? I tried googling it, cant find it no where

 

[Me1971]

Also.,.........................dumbasses will still think Who Shot Ya was about Tupac

Yea niggas act like albums dont have deadlines for songs to be in....RTD dropped in September, so the deadline was prolly sometime in August or late July....

Big did record the second and third verses after Pac was shot though. It mentioned being robbed for a Rolex, which we all know Pac was robbed for his Rolex lol. And the line "turned front page nigga".

I really wouldn't put it past Big though. This is the same dude who went to the radio station in LA after Pac died and spit his verses for Long Kiss Goodnight, which was a Pac diss.

False........the original song was Keith Murray and Big. Big re-recorded to make it his the song was done a month before PAC was shot. Song was finished in February PAC was shot in September. The song a b-sife track release on Big's debut. Again who shot ya had nothing to do with PAC. Long Kiss Goodnight is most definitely a song about PAC though.

Still none of that is shit PAC knew who shot him and why he was shot. He went at Big and Badboy off of Suge beef with Puff over Wolf getting shot up by them BMF niggas.

Nah, Pac was shot in November 94 and Whot Shot Ya was released in February of 95 right after Pac went to jail.

I also personally believe that whoever was extorting Bad Boy (Jack and them) had Who Shot Ya released to taunt Pac. I wouldn't be suprised if there's some behind the sense stuff that we don't know where Pac had word that the song was released to taunt him.

No, Pac was already going at them before he signed to Death Row. In fact, he was dissing them in interviews from jail before Suge was publicly throwing jabs at the source awards.

Big was stuck in the middle regardless. Pac said at the end of Makaveli "remember what y'all told me, don't go to war until my money is right? Well it's on now". So it's obvious that him going at Bad Boy was a calculated scheme to get money so he could actually go at the people who got him.

 

[D. Morgan]

Exactly that nigga is a rat been a rat and deserves no respect. Once you snitch it doesn't matter how much work you put in or how much money you made. All that shit doesn't matter anymore cause when your name is spoken the first and last thing that will be said is that he is a rat.

Would Tupac be considered a rat for talking to the crackas about Jack? Is "The Realest Shit I Ever Wrote" a snitch song like Ghetto Qur'an was called?

Had a debate about those questions figured I'd ask

Tough question to be honest with you. If 2Pac told the police shit about Jack then yes. To put things into a song they have to be still be fact checked and proven so that is shaky.

This is the same reason some people who locked up wish rappers wouldn't glorify them in songs. Those dudes are appealing their cases saying they didn't do what they were convicted of. Then you got some fake ass rapper who was never around said person saying how they sold crazy amounts of drugs, killed untold amouts of people and had millions upon millions of dollars.

That is not necessarily snitching but it sure ain't helping those people appeals.

 

[Me1971]

I don't see why Pac was so relaxed running through the city after talking all that shit in the papers about Hatian Jack after the rape charge. I guess he didn't know Hatian and Jimmy was people. Biggie didn't introduce them nor was he in that hotel room the day Tupac sealed his own fate.

@FuriousOne‌ Pac got shot before he started riding on NY niggas.He started riding because he got shot

Before then Pac had been running around NY and of course you know he's from there

I'm talking specifically about the event that landed him in jail. Jimmy Henchmen is cool with the same guy that was accused of sexually assaulting the girl that Tupac bought into his hotel room, Hatian Jack. After Tupac's lawyer, and even Tyson told him that it was something fishy about Jack, Tupac aired him out in the news. How does that not make you a target of these dudes. He also said that he felt some kind of way after seeing Biggie with Jack after Biggie warned him. So Tupac already had it in his head to be against the nigga's he was rolling with. He may have been right to be angry, but he was the one that chose to hang with those grimy dudes. One thing you gotta know about NYC is just because you from there, doesn't mean everybody your homie especially if you a getting money Harlem nigga hanging around thirsty Brooklyn stick up kids.

Him and Jack weren't cool after Pac found out that something fishy was going on. In fact, they would see each other at events and Pac would just act real indifferent towards him. It escalated to the point where Pac almost pulled a gun on Jack but Big calmed the situation before Jack turned the corner and realized what was going on. The last song that Pac recorded before he was shot in NY kind of tells you where his mind frame was at "holla and tell me if you feel me. I think niggas is tryna kill me, picturing pistols, spitting hollow point til they drill me.......sitting in court/they turn snitch but used to be real"

 

[Me1971]

Exactly that nigga is a rat been a rat and deserves no respect. Once you snitch it doesn't matter how much work you put in or how much money you made. All that shit doesn't matter anymore cause when your name is spoken the first and last thing that will be said is that he is a rat.

Would Tupac be considered a rat for talking to the crackas about Jack? Is "The Realest Shit I Ever Wrote" a snitch song like Ghetto Qur'an was called?

Had a debate about those questions figured I'd ask

Nah, he was basically warning people about snitches and trying to dirty up their rep.

 

[Me1971]

Anybody got a link to the AJ Benza article where pac dissed Jack in the newspaper? I tried googling it, cant find it no where

It's online somewhere, I've seen it before. Try googling Tupac NY Times 1994 or something.

 

[Me1971]

What about those White cops Pac shot in Atlanta. How come nobody mentions them? They had an axe to grind with Pac and they probably had the connections too.

The most likely and most overlooked,but simple answer to who killed Pac is that Orlando Jones and them crips killed Pac after Death Row jumped him at the MGM.

It wasn't the government or aliens,or Puff

Pac's mom even said she's sure Pac's killer is already dead,because Orlando got killed and his OG uncle

Plus Edi from the Lawz said Pac and BIG died over some street shit

I believe that cop who came out like 2 yrs ago

He said inside the LAPD both cases are considered closed and they know who did both,but one is dead and the other can't be proven and would probably get LAPD in more trouble

Pretty obvious. Crip nigga gets jumped in Vegas which was at the time a grimy place in 90s. Pac gets killed. My issue is if LAPD knows and Las Vegas PD knows then why keep it a secret. I know for Biggies murder they say it a LAPD cop who was close to Suge and the Piru Bloods. In Pacs case there is no lead. Orlando Andersen got his ass beatdown and hours later Pac is dead. Then the Crips and the Bloods had a bloody gang war after Pac died. Which tells me the streets know and the cops know. Anyway I feel that in 20 years from now the truth will be revealed. A lot of those niggas will be like 60,70 years old.

It was due to politics. And also, solving Biggie and Pac's murder would've brought attention to even more corruption that they didn't want coming to light.

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

Even with who shot ya coming out after pac getting shot, I dont recall any lines thats even can be taken as a diss. Only the title and Im sure its only titled that way cause of the first lines of the song

 

[B_A]

Also.,.........................dumbasses will still think Who Shot Ya was about Tupac

Yea niggas act like albums dont have deadlines for songs to be in....RTD dropped in September, so the deadline was prolly sometime in August or late July....

Big did record the second and third verses after Pac was shot though. It mentioned being robbed for a Rolex, which we all know Pac was robbed for his Rolex lol. And the line "turned front page nigga".

I really wouldn't put it past Big though. This is the same dude who went to the radio station in LA after Pac died and spit his verses for Long Kiss Goodnight, which was a Pac diss.

False........the original song was Keith Murray and Big. Big re-recorded to make it his the song was done a month before PAC was shot. Song was finished in February PAC was shot in September. The song a b-sife track release on Big's debut. Again who shot ya had nothing to do with PAC. Long Kiss Goodnight is most definitely a song about PAC though.

Still none of that is shit PAC knew who shot him and why he was shot. He went at Big and Badboy off of Suge beef with Puff over Wolf getting shot up by them BMF niggas.

Didnt wolf get shot in 2000?

 

[dalyricalbandit]

nothing to see here

 

[lethal5]

If jimmy was extorting bad boy, at what point did he stop? Puff only got richer as time went on.

 

[SheerExcellence]

Even with who shot ya coming out after pac getting shot, I dont recall any lines thats even can be taken as a diss. Only the title and Im sure its only titled that way cause of the first lines of the song

Dude

Yo my boy right

You hold me down when I'm in your town

Some dude you know, is trying to robb me for doing some slick shit

You didn't tell me

I see your boy cease on my way up, be say "yo whatuo sheer excellence ill be right down"

I walk only lobby, I get pistol whipped rob and shot

Then you stop talking to me

You don't visit me in jail

You dint hold me down when I'm in your side of the streets

Then to top it off you relese a song callee who shot ya

That's all kinds foul to me

 

[5 Grand]

1. Who Shot Ya was on mixtapes months before it appeared on the b-side to the Big Poppa single. There's a version with Keith Murray and Big rapping (I think Big goes first) then there's another version with just Big and lastly there's the version that appeared on Mary J Blige's 2nd album with just Keith Murray rapping.

2. What About LL Cool J's I Shot Ya? There was an original version with just LL and then there was the remix with Prodigy, Fat Joe, Keith Murray, Foxy Brown and LL. Perhaps 2Pac was salty about that song too which encouraged him to diss New York.

 

[lethal5]

Even with who shot ya coming out after pac getting shot, I dont recall any lines thats even can be taken as a diss. Only the title and Im sure its only titled that way cause of the first lines of the song

Dude

Yo my boy right

You hold me down when I'm in your town

Some dude you know, is trying to robb me for doing some slick shit

You didn't tell me

I see your boy cease on my way up, be say "yo whatuo sheer excellence ill be right down"

I walk only lobby, I get pistol whipped rob and shot

Then you stop talking to me

You don't visit me in jail

You dint hold me down when I'm in your side of the streets

Then to top it off you relese a song callee who shot ya

That's all kinds foul to me

Why do people always assume jimmy told the whole crew what was bout to happen?

jimmy was heavy in the streets, by comparison - biggie was just a rapper.

You actually think he briefs biggie on all his criminal plans?, especially when he knew Big & pac were friends and could potentially tip pac off?

I'm not no gangsta, but its common sense to tell as less people as possible bout something like that (the less people that can open there mouth in the future & get me knocked, the better).

Believe it or not, plenty niggas have the sense to keep that shit on the low, even from there homeboys.

 

[CracceR]

Also.,.........................dumbasses will still think Who Shot Ya was about Tupac

Yea niggas act like albums dont have deadlines for songs to be in....RTD dropped in September, so the deadline was prolly sometime in August or late July....

Big did record the second and third verses after Pac was shot though. It mentioned being robbed for a Rolex, which we all know Pac was robbed for his Rolex lol. And the line "turned front page nigga".

I really wouldn't put it past Big though. This is the same dude who went to the radio station in LA after Pac died and spit his verses for Long Kiss Goodnight, which was a Pac diss.

False........the original song was Keith Murray and Big. Big re-recorded to make it his the song was done a month before PAC was shot. Song was finished in February PAC was shot in September. The song a b-sife track release on Big's debut. Again who shot ya had nothing to do with PAC. Long Kiss Goodnight is most definitely a song about PAC though.

Still none of that is shit PAC knew who shot him and why he was shot. He went at Big and Badboy off of Suge beef with Puff over Wolf getting shot up by them BMF niggas.

Didnt wolf get shot in 2000?

yea wolf was killed in '03, but i guess he shot one of suges dudes in '95

1. Who Shot Ya was on mixtapes months before it appeared on the b-side to the Big Poppa single. There's a version with Keith Murray and Big rapping (I think Big goes first) then there's another version with just Big and lastly there's the version that appeared on Mary J Blige's 2nd album with just Keith Murray rapping.

2. What About LL Cool J's I Shot Ya? There was an original version with just LL and then there was the remix with Prodigy, Fat Joe, Keith Murray, Foxy Brown and LL. Perhaps 2Pac was salty about that song too which encouraged him to diss New York.

sure pac was mad and he dissed ll and them

 

[PanchoYoSancho]

Biggie and puff shoulda looked out for him that night or at least held him down in jail

And releasing who shot ya was throwing fuel on the fire

Biggie essentially turned his back on who he was saying was his boy

http://www.vibe.com/article/tupac-talks-hit-em-vs-who-shot-ya-pg-2