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Pac interview with Sway talking about his influence on Biggie's style and Westside Connect 'Bow Down'.
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PanchoYoSancho;7478232 said:antarticp;7473061 said:PanchoYoSancho;7459067 said:SheerExcellence;7451491 said:Biggie and puff shoulda looked out for him that night or at least held him down in jail
And releasing who shot ya was throwing fuel on the fire
Biggie essentially turned his back on who he was saying was his boy
http://www.vibe.com/article/tupac-talks-hit-em-vs-who-shot-ya-pg-2
only thing i dont agree with what pac is saying ... is the whole biggie is trying to be like me stuff
im pretty sure that radio female friendly music was more influenced by puff than 2pac
2:17 Biggie acknowledged Pac's influence on 'Ready to Die'. Pac gave him advice, Biggie went with it and Pac tried to take credit for it. I love Pac, but he acted like every rapper was trying to steal his style. From Nas on 'It Was Written' to Cube with the Westside Connection, Pac thought the rap game revolved around him.
Cliff Da Mont;7478754 said:PanchoYoSancho;7478232 said:antarticp;7473061 said:PanchoYoSancho;7459067 said:SheerExcellence;7451491 said:Biggie and puff shoulda looked out for him that night or at least held him down in jail
And releasing who shot ya was throwing fuel on the fire
Biggie essentially turned his back on who he was saying was his boy
http://www.vibe.com/article/tupac-talks-hit-em-vs-who-shot-ya-pg-2
only thing i dont agree with what pac is saying ... is the whole biggie is trying to be like me stuff
im pretty sure that radio female friendly music was more influenced by puff than 2pac
2:17 Biggie acknowledged Pac's influence on 'Ready to Die'. Pac gave him advice, Biggie went with it and Pac tried to take credit for it. I love Pac, but he acted like every rapper was trying to steal his style. From Nas on 'It Was Written' to Cube with the Westside Connection, Pac thought the rap game revolved around him.
It did...and to large degree still does.
DarcSkies;7447820 said:SheerExcellence;7447818 said:Jfk and mlk will be solved next week
BRUH...both of those were solved already. THis wasnt unless you been paying attention...which I wasnt.
Me1971;7455854 said:Cain;7451514 said:Me1971;7451402 said:a_list;7449828 said:Cain;7449152 said:Also.,.........................dumbasses will still think Who Shot Ya was about Tupac
Yea niggas act like albums dont have deadlines for songs to be in....RTD dropped in September, so the deadline was prolly sometime in August or late July....
Big did record the second and third verses after Pac was shot though. It mentioned being robbed for a Rolex, which we all know Pac was robbed for his Rolex lol. And the line "turned front page nigga".
I really wouldn't put it past Big though. This is the same dude who went to the radio station in LA after Pac died and spit his verses for Long Kiss Goodnight, which was a Pac diss.
False........the original song was Keith Murray and Big. Big re-recorded to make it his the song was done a month before PAC was shot. Song was finished in February PAC was shot in September. The song a b-sife track release on Big's debut. Again who shot ya had nothing to do with PAC. Long Kiss Goodnight is most definitely a song about PAC though.
Still none of that is shit PAC knew who shot him and why he was shot. He went at Big and Badboy off of Suge beef with Puff over Wolf getting shot up by them BMF niggas.
Nah, Pac was shot in November 94 and Whot Shot Ya was released in February of 95 right after Pac went to jail.
I also personally believe that whoever was extorting Bad Boy (Jack and them) had Who Shot Ya released to taunt Pac. I wouldn't be suprised if there's some behind the sense stuff that we don't know where Pac had word that the song was released to taunt him.
No, Pac was already going at them before he signed to Death Row. In fact, he was dissing them in interviews from jail before Suge was publicly throwing jabs at the source awards.
Big was stuck in the middle regardless. Pac said at the end of Makaveli "remember what y'all told me, don't go to war until my money is right? Well it's on now". So it's obvious that him going at Bad Boy was a calculated scheme to get money so he could actually go at the people who got him.
Me1971;7455903 said:PapaDoc223;7452918 said:loch121;7452546 said:5 Grand;7452307 said:What about those White cops Pac shot in Atlanta. How come nobody mentions them? They had an axe to grind with Pac and they probably had the connections too.
The most likely and most overlooked,but simple answer to who killed Pac is that Orlando Jones and them crips killed Pac after Death Row jumped him at the MGM.
It wasn't the government or aliens,or Puff
Pac's mom even said she's sure Pac's killer is already dead,because Orlando got killed and his OG uncle
Plus Edi from the Lawz said Pac and BIG died over some street shit
I believe that cop who came out like 2 yrs ago
He said inside the LAPD both cases are considered closed and they know who did both,but one is dead and the other can't be proven and would probably get LAPD in more trouble
Pretty obvious. Crip nigga gets jumped in Vegas which was at the time a grimy place in 90s. Pac gets killed. My issue is if LAPD knows and Las Vegas PD knows then why keep it a secret. I know for Biggies murder they say it a LAPD cop who was close to Suge and the Piru Bloods. In Pacs case there is no lead. Orlando Andersen got his ass beatdown and hours later Pac is dead. Then the Crips and the Bloods had a bloody gang war after Pac died. Which tells me the streets know and the cops know. Anyway I feel that in 20 years from now the truth will be revealed. A lot of those niggas will be like 60,70 years old.
It was due to politics. And also, solving Biggie and Pac's murder would've brought attention to even more corruption that they didn't want coming to light.
SheerExcellence;7460966 said:lethal5;7458718 said:SheerExcellence;7458502 said:Built 4 cuban linx;7456003 said:Even with who shot ya coming out after pac getting shot, I dont recall any lines thats even can be taken as a diss. Only the title and Im sure its only titled that way cause of the first lines of the song
Dude
Yo my boy right
You hold me down when I'm in your town
Some dude you know, is trying to robb me for doing some slick shit
You didn't tell me
I see your boy cease on my way up, be say "yo whatuo sheer excellence ill be right down"
I walk only lobby, I get pistol whipped rob and shot
Then you stop talking to me
You don't visit me in jail
You dint hold me down when I'm in your side of the streets
Then to top it off you relese a song callee who shot ya
That's all kinds foul to me
Why do people always assume jimmy told the whole crew what was bout to happen?
jimmy was heavy in the streets, by comparison - biggie was just a rapper.
You actually think he briefs biggie on all his criminal plans?, especially when he knew Big & pac were friends and could potentially tip pac off?
I'm not no gangsta, but its common sense to tell as less people as possible bout something like that (the less people that can open there mouth in the future & get me knocked, the better).
Believe it or not, plenty niggas have the sense to keep that shit on the low, even from there homeboys.
Let's assume biggie and them didn't know the hit was coming
They
Still turned their backs on him
They still didn't go visit him in jail
And they still released
Who Shot ya
Im just saying,, if you were my friend and you did what biggie did to tupac, at the very least
We wouldn't be friends anymore
Built 4 cuban linx;7473577 said:goldenja;7473149 said:yall actually believe this shit lol
So who shot him then?
SheerExcellence;7483881 said:Im just amazed we still talking about this shit
No feelings
We can l continue on
But it really is amazing
Niggas die everyday
A plane disappeared a few months ago
Muslims in Nigeria kidnapping girls
But damn near twenty years later
We analyzing tupac shooting
Im doing it too so don't think im shaming
But shit kinda crazy
ojos_negros;7483899 said:SheerExcellence;7483881 said:Im just amazed we still talking about this shit
No feelings
We can l continue on
But it really is amazing
Niggas die everyday
A plane disappeared a few months ago
Muslims in Nigeria kidnapping girls
But damn near twenty years later
We analyzing tupac shooting
Im doing it too so don't think im shaming
But shit kinda crazy
Nice poem bruh
goldenja;7483089 said:Built 4 cuban linx;7473577 said:goldenja;7473149 said:yall actually believe this shit lol
So who shot him then?
in all seriousness tho. the same people that killed MLK JR.. the government. He was speaking "too much knowledge" to the black community and he could have started something like MLK JR was striving for... plus he was a black panther as well.